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Anyone else impressed with Wentz?

yatqb : 9/20/2016 11:56 am
Kid looks like a really composed, talented QB. Sad to see the Eagles get this right.
mite quick for that, no?  
Greg from LI : 9/20/2016 11:59 am : link
He's faced two atrocious defenses and has barely attempted a pass longer than 10 yards.
Yep  
Johnny5 : 9/20/2016 11:59 am : link
I'm really impressed with him and Prescott both. After opposing DCs can watch a few games of tape they should start to stumble though.
He looks pretty  
TommyWiseau : 9/20/2016 11:59 am : link
good, they may have gotten a good one here. Lets see how he develops as the season progresses.
And if Eli started  
TommyWiseau : 9/20/2016 12:00 pm : link
his career like Wentz has, everyone here would be singing his praises. Kid has played well so far
Yeah  
shelovesnycsports : 9/20/2016 12:01 pm : link
Wet myself watching him last night. And he is better than Eli ;)
Dak Prescott too.
It's clear they are trying to build his confidence  
GiantGolfer : 9/20/2016 12:02 pm : link
with all the short passes. It's pretty easy to stay turnover free when you are only throwing it 5 yards.
Just as it's not too early  
santacruzom : 9/20/2016 12:02 pm : link
To be impressed by Shepard, it's not too early to be impressed by Wentz. You can be impressed by their current play without declaring they will prove to be great players.
He looks pretty good, bad defenses are not  
MetsAreBack : 9/20/2016 12:03 pm : link
If Jordan Matthews would stop being stone hands out there, he'd have more deep ball completions too.

Of course progress is never linear and he'll have lots of bad games the next few years. But through the first couple of games at least, and watching Hard Knocks - seems the Rams should have gone Wentz #1 over the laid back dude.
They have tape on him now  
Canton : 9/20/2016 12:03 pm : link
defenses will adjust. But he's certainly looking like the better pick. Jeff Fisher wanted him but management wanted Goff.

Let's revisit in 3 years.
I'll hold off until he has a little more than 8 quarters...  
okiegiant : 9/20/2016 12:03 pm : link
under his belt. He's had his moments but he's also thrown some bad passes and taken some shots, as well.

Shepard is making big plays and tough catches.  
Randy in CT : 9/20/2016 12:03 pm : link
Wentz is throwing easy stuff against shitty D's. It ain't apples.
Big arm and accurate for a rookie  
giant24 : 9/20/2016 12:04 pm : link
Pretty good mobility too for a big guy and he took some big hits and popped back up. I think our defense will match up well though with their receivers and put pressure on the O-line.
and as far as the 2016 Eagles go  
MetsAreBack : 9/20/2016 12:05 pm : link
I'm actually more impressed with their defense than anything else. It's a good unit.
Yes, very impressive for a kid who went to a Small School  
ZogZerg : 9/20/2016 12:05 pm : link
and missed much of preseason.

He needs to learn to slide though, or he is going to get himself killed.
This week will be a big tell......  
Tom [Giants fan] : 9/20/2016 12:05 pm : link
if he can put up similar numbers against the Steelers and they go to 3-0, than color me impressed.
What impressed me the most  
aimrocky : 9/20/2016 12:06 pm : link
was how he was calling out the defense at the LOS and he delivered a few strikes while taking a big hit to the chin. Sure, the offense is playing in a phone booth right now, but he's excelled at what they've given him to this point. Very impressive.
RE: This week will be a big tell......  
okiegiant : 9/20/2016 12:06 pm : link
In comment 13132400 Tom [Giants fan] said:
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if he can put up similar numbers against the Steelers and they go to 3-0, than color me impressed.


Correct...ask me next week about Wentz and the Eagles defense.
I saw this movie before when it starred Nick Foles  
Greg from LI : 9/20/2016 12:10 pm : link
Time will tell.

And MAB's right - what's surprising about the Eagles is how good their defense looks.
RE: Just as it's not too early  
ColHowPepper : 9/20/2016 12:11 pm : link
In comment 13132387 santacruzom said:
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To be impressed by Shepard, it's not too early to be impressed by Wentz. You can be impressed by their current play without declaring they will prove to be great players.

agree, and notwithstanding the (what I find defensive) comments about Dak, he has impressed me more than Wentz. Yes, DP has an excellent OL in front of him, and he's taken full advantage.

Also, re. Eagles' defense: what MAB said
RG III  
oldog : 9/20/2016 12:11 pm : link
(2).
RE: Just as it's not too early  
ColHowPepper : 9/20/2016 12:12 pm : link
In comment 13132387 santacruzom said:
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To be impressed by Shepard, it's not too early to be impressed by Wentz. You can be impressed by their current play without declaring they will prove to be great players.

agree, and notwithstanding the (what I find defensive) comments about Dak, he has impressed me more than Wentz. Yes, DP has an excellent OL in front of him, and he's taken full advantage.

Also, re. Eagles' defense: what MAB said
RE: Just as it's not too early  
ColHowPepper : 9/20/2016 12:12 pm : link
In comment 13132387 santacruzom said:
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To be impressed by Shepard, it's not too early to be impressed by Wentz. You can be impressed by their current play without declaring they will prove to be great players.

agree, and notwithstanding the (what I find defensive) comments about Dak, he has impressed me more than Wentz. Yes, DP has an excellent OL in front of him, and he's taken full advantage.

Also, re. Eagles' defense: what MAB said
RE: I saw this movie before when it starred Nick Foles  
Randy in CT : 9/20/2016 12:13 pm : link
In comment 13132410 Greg from LI said:
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Time will tell.

And MAB's right - what's surprising about the Eagles is how good their defense looks.
That Bears team is just awful. And the other team was the Browns.
I am  
UConn4523 : 9/20/2016 12:13 pm : link
mentioned it on the Prescott thread, but his poise and ability to take a big hit while throwing accurately is something we need to prepare for. I didn't expect this kind of start from him, even though I liked him more than Goff.
sorry, yatqb, for the multiple posts  
ColHowPepper : 9/20/2016 12:14 pm : link
I kept getting a BBI Error Message saying Errors in the post, Re-submit in 20 seconds, kept coming up, so I kept hitting submit......

Gary, a glitch?
Wentz  
AcidTest : 9/20/2016 12:17 pm : link
has done well, but as others have noted, he's releasing the ball quickly, and most of his throws are at the first level. Many are WR screens, hitches, quick outs, and slants. On a number of plays, it looked like he was just looking at half the field, and making one or two reads. But he has composure, reads defenses well, and has made a few nice deep throws, albeit against the Browns. He's certainly more advanced than most rookie QBs. Prescott as well.
I think he...  
Chris in Philly : 9/20/2016 12:19 pm : link
has a good head on his shoulders and he can make all the throws. But he plays very recklessly which will result in him getting hurt. And they really aren't asking him to do too much yet. .
RE: mite quick for that, no?  
ShocknAwe80 : 9/20/2016 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13132378 Greg from LI said:
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He's faced two atrocious defenses and has barely attempted a pass longer than 10 yards.


Come on, give credit where credit is due. The kid took a licking last night and bounced right up. Those two passes he completed with a defender bearing down on and subsequently crushing him were very very nice. He also has shown good touch on his passes. Nobody is putting him in canton yet, just saying he has been impressive early on. I mean hell, compare his first two starts to Eli's... I must say the hit he took on the sideline last night reminded me very much of the hit Eli took in his first game against philly.
Do I have to retype Dave Brown's first three starts again?  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/20/2016 12:20 pm : link
IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WENTZ.

The kid is the #2 pick in the draft. Did you expect him to suck? Sure, we can hope for Ryan Leaf. But the QBs taken at #2 since Leaf have been Donovan McNabb, Robert Griffin III and Marcus Mariota. These are seriously talented football players. I will say, though, that if Wentz doesn't protect himself better than he did on Monday, he's more likely to end up like Griffin than McNabb.
I agree with Chris  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/20/2016 12:23 pm : link
I really like what I've seen from him. He's making reads at the LOS, he's making accurate throws, and he runs pretty well. He also threw a few strikes downfield wihile on the run that could have resulted in huge plays if Algholor could win the one-on-ones and hold onto the ball.

It doesn't mean that he will definitely be great or that he won't regress when better defenses attack him, but I think he's playing as well as anyone could want from a rookie quarterback thus far.

His biggest flaw thus far has been the way he exposed himself to big hits, though.
Ha, B3 beat me to it.  
jcn56 : 9/20/2016 12:23 pm : link
If Wentz keeps doing that to himself, there's not going to be a whole lot left of him to impress.

As for the Eagles D - I think we all kind of expected it when they signed Schwartz to be their DC, no?
RE: I think he...  
Brown Recluse : 9/20/2016 12:24 pm : link
In comment 13132439 Chris in Philly said:
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has a good head on his shoulders and he can make all the throws. But he plays very recklessly which will result in him getting hurt. And they really aren't asking him to do too much yet. .


Thats a good take.
So far I think he has done as well as the Eagles could have hoped  
PatersonPlank : 9/20/2016 12:24 pm : link
However they have played college teams. He has a long way to go.
Very impressive  
KWALL2 : 9/20/2016 12:25 pm : link
Physical tools are obvious. The small school QB looks like a veteran right now even without a lot of preseason work. That's really impressive.

They started the game with no huddle and spread it out and he looked like a vet. Most of the throws are short but he made some nice long throws that were dropped and he did it last week vs CLE. Throwing down the field is not an issue for him. He's got a live arm.

Very early but looks like DAL and PHi have their QBs for a while.

He outplayed Cutler..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/20/2016 12:30 pm : link
but then again Cutler is a terrible QB.

But I still remember the days when there were posters here talking about how great he was too.
Speaking of QBs exposing themselves to injury...  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/20/2016 12:33 pm : link
...it's nice to see Eli Manning finally getting credit for playing every Sunday. Maybe it comes across as faint praise, but it really shouldn't. Where NFL QBs are concerned, Woody Allen's maxim applies: 80% of life/success is showing up.

I personally like that version better than "A quarterback's most important ability is AVAILability." But then, Woody Allen is among the most brilliant humorists of his generation (albeit a twisted one). Daryl Johnston used his head as a battering ram for ten years. Comparing their phrase-turning talents seems a bit unfair.
What scares me, is that both their OL and DL,  
Doomster : 9/20/2016 12:38 pm : link
look pretty good.....

As for Wentz, he looks good out there....the short passes are to minimize mistakes...has a good arm.....just a matter of time before he gets his timing down with the receivers, and plays a little long ball....

The NFC East, is looking stronger each week....

Of course the competition the Eagles have faced, helps....

Two games is too small a sample, even for the Giants.....by mid season we will know who the pretenders to the crown are...
He's managing the game well for the Eagles.  
Someguy1978 : 9/20/2016 12:39 pm : link
One thing I noticed in last night's game in the first half (didn't watch the 2nd half) was he took two big hits. I'm not sure if he got hit again in the 2nd half. If he continues to take shots like that, he won't make it through a 16 game season.
Two games  
feelflows : 9/20/2016 12:46 pm : link
And I cannot understand how he has so many wide open targets.
Early Cutler  
KWALL2 : 9/20/2016 12:46 pm : link
His first few years he looked outstanding. Some guys grow. Some don't.

Wentz, after 2 games, is impressive. People saying it was against this defense or he avg 6 YPA? That doesn't mean the way he handled himself, moved around, and threw a football on an NFL field wasn't impressive. It Mathews catches the ball his YPA is good. Last week he threw some nice deep balls.

He looks like a real player. No need to take it as any kind of knock on Eli but thats what many do here.
I would hold off on the Eagles defense  
dep026 : 9/20/2016 12:48 pm : link
facing Cutler and RGIII doesnt really count. Philly's secondary is bad, I mean very bad. However, their front 4 is excellent.
PHI  
KWALL2 : 9/20/2016 12:52 pm : link
safety tandem is as good as anybody. The DBs on that team aren't that bad because of Jenkins and McCleod.
so being impressed with Wentz and Prescott so far equal  
LG in NYC : 9/20/2016 12:55 pm : link
putting them in the HOF.

People are funny. Apparently we are only allowed to be impressed with Giants players.

Who the hell knows what kind of career either of these rookie QB's will have but through 2 games each they both have looked good. Not sure how how anyone argue with that.
They may not have been asked to do too much, but both have looked in control of the offense, accurate, agile and calm.

As a Giants fan, I would have preferred they both looked like doe-eyed, pants pissing rookies.

So far  
ChicagoMarty : 9/20/2016 1:00 pm : link
so good
Exactly LG  
KWALL2 : 9/20/2016 1:02 pm : link
The game thread does nothing but rip Wentz and Gruden for being impressed with him.

The guy had an undeniable command of what to do out there. And he has the tools to deliver the ball.

He sure as hell did not play like a small school rookie. Last season he's playing in North Dakota but he played like a 10 year vet on Monday night...on the road...in game 2 of his career. Damn that sucks for Giants fans.
RE: Do I have to retype Dave Brown's first three starts again?  
UConn4523 : 9/20/2016 1:03 pm : link
In comment 13132445 Big Blue Blogger said:
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IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WENTZ.

The kid is the #2 pick in the draft. Did you expect him to suck? Sure, we can hope for Ryan Leaf. But the QBs taken at #2 since Leaf have been Donovan McNabb, Robert Griffin III and Marcus Mariota. These are seriously talented football players. I will say, though, that if Wentz doesn't protect himself better than he did on Monday, he's more likely to end up like Griffin than McNabb.


A message board isn't for you, chill out. We are talking about how he looks after 2 games, not putting him in the hall of fame. Is anyone allowed to talk about the QB of a rival team, or do we have to wait until season 3?
He looked good and composed out there  
nicky43 : 9/20/2016 1:06 pm : link
but I wouldn't go as far as Gruden did who was gushing over him so much I thought he was going to run on the field and give him a blow job.
He's better than Jay Cutler  
cjac : 9/20/2016 1:08 pm : link
but thats not saying much
He looked very solid  
jv : 9/20/2016 1:10 pm : link
and throws a beautiful and accurate ball.

Only negatives I saw were:

1. Takes ridiculous hits for no reason.

2. Didn't really seem like he looked past his first target. Now that may be because the Bears didn't cover anyone but it's something to look out for this week against the Steelers.
simply put  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/20/2016 1:15 pm : link
if I were an Eagles fan, I'd be ecstatic about the pick so far and very optimistic for the future with him
Did not look good  
tomjgiant : 9/20/2016 1:17 pm : link
in long yardage situations,which were not to many.Bears are really bad and they could have thrown all night on that Eagle secondary but their OL sucks and Cutler just isn't good enough.
Wentz,much like Dak is making the most out of a limited passing game plan.They both will face much bigger tests this year.
So far so good for him...  
Dan in the Springs : 9/20/2016 1:20 pm : link
of course, the real credit for both his and DP's success in Dallas goes to the coaching staff, who created a game plan that each of them were capable of executing. Reminds me a bit of how coach Harbaugh was able to win with Alex Smith in SF for a while, until defenses adjusted to what they were trying to do and force Alex into more difficult throws.

My guess is that over time, defenses will force them to adjust these plans, and we will see how long these guys can continue to adjust.

Prescott didn't do so well after the Giants made their adjustments in the second half of the game. I think if we can stay healthy he might struggle even more by the time we play them again.
I was impressed with his poise  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 9/20/2016 1:21 pm : link
In the pocket and he got hit hard a few times and bounced back. It's against 2 shitty teams, but he looks like he belongs which is big at this stage of his career.
Am I impressed? Let me mention  
That’s Gold, Jerry : 9/20/2016 1:23 pm : link
one name...Robert Griffin III. He looked great in his first year also, didn't he. Then he got pounded because he ran around and didn't protect himself, very similar to what Wentz is doing, then he got hurt and was never the same.

Being a good QB is a body of work over a period of time against both tough and easy opponents.

He has done well so far but let's not put him in Canton yet.
I'll be more impressed  
NYerInMA : 9/20/2016 1:25 pm : link
when he plays well against a competent defense. Cleveland and Chicago don't count in that regard.
yes, Jon Gruden is.  
Victor in CT : 9/20/2016 1:28 pm : link
Lets see what he does against an NFL team.
As a HUGE Eagles hater  
gmen9892 : 9/20/2016 1:28 pm : link
It takes a lot for me to say, but hes looked good. I am taking into account who he has played, but he knows where to go with the ball and seems to have a firm grasp of the offense. He can diagnose a blitz and he can make a play with his legs if he needs to (although he took a bunch of big hits last night and needs to learn how to protect himself or he wont last). I know its early, but it looks like the Eagles made a good choice.
RE: Yep  
SGMen : 9/20/2016 1:48 pm : link
In comment 13132379 Johnny5 said:
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I'm really impressed with him and Prescott both. After opposing DCs can watch a few games of tape they should start to stumble though.
They are both rookies and they have both done well in a "controlled passing environment" against defenses that are on their best days average.

Let's wait until games 7, 8 or more to get a real gauge on them.

If you are an Eagle or Dallas fan you have HOPE and that is HUGE.
I regrettably think  
mavric : 9/20/2016 1:51 pm : link
the Eagles have finally got themselves a keeper. Tall, poised, cerebral, strong and accurate arm. Already looks like he's played in the NFL for the past 5 years.

If he stays healthy, he will give the Giants fits for years to come.

Of course it's early, but he seems incredibly mature and acts nothing like the typical jittery rookie with that deer in the headlights look when stepping onto the field in the NFL for the first time
Best thing you can say about him is that  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/20/2016 1:55 pm : link
he doesn't turn the ball over. His yards per play aren't all that impressive, and he's played two of the NFL's worst teams.

Gruden liked him last night, but what did he mention? Poise, intelligence, ball handling. That's a good start, but let's see him down 14 points against a real team and see what happens.
.  
arcarsenal : 9/20/2016 1:56 pm : link
Yes.

It's early and it'll be nice to see the Eagles actually have to play a real NFL team soon but I think he's looked very comfortable and in control thus far. He seems to have a really good feel for the game and he's made some pretty impressive throws.

Again.. it's early. But it's tough not to give the kid credit so far. If it were us and it was some rookie that was taking Eli's place a few years from now I think it's pretty safe to say that we'd all be very happy right now.
RE: Early Cutler  
David in LA : 9/20/2016 1:57 pm : link
In comment 13132514 KWALL2 said:
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His first few years he looked outstanding. Some guys grow. Some don't.

Wentz, after 2 games, is impressive. People saying it was against this defense or he avg 6 YPA? That doesn't mean the way he handled himself, moved around, and threw a football on an NFL field wasn't impressive. It Mathews catches the ball his YPA is good. Last week he threw some nice deep balls.

He looks like a real player. No need to take it as any kind of knock on Eli but thats what many do here.


Cutler has also had a new OC every single year in Chicago.
What? He beat two terrible defense on teams that are a combined 0-4?  
Bramton1 : 9/20/2016 2:01 pm : link
Well, what are you waiting for? Give him a yellow jacket and a bust in Canton!
RE: What? He beat two terrible defense on teams that are a combined 0-4?  
arcarsenal : 9/20/2016 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13132712 Bramton1 said:
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Well, what are you waiting for? Give him a yellow jacket and a bust in Canton!


I don't get responses like this. Is anyone really saying that? Of course not.
Yup  
trueblueinpw : 9/20/2016 2:09 pm : link
I saw him for the first time last night, and while I know it was the Bears, I watched a few series and thought, "uh oh". Kid seems cool, seems to read the defense, looked like a quick release and accurate passer. Didn't see the hits he took, hey I could only watch so much of that lousy game. But yeah, looks like the Dirty Birds might have a QB.
Agreed, it's too early to tell the future based on one or two games  
Marty in Albany : 9/20/2016 2:09 pm : link
but he played well IMO.

Cutler played as well as you can when you are running for your life much of the time.
So far he's undefeated  
giantgiantfan : 9/20/2016 2:23 pm : link
Not making mistakes and making some plays. What else could you want out of a rookie going into week 3. Lets see what he could do against a playoff team this week. He's played against two teams drafting in the top 5 (arguable battling for the top pick) so far.
What Marty said.  
Blue21 : 9/20/2016 2:51 pm : link
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Funny how  
ryanmkeane : 9/20/2016 2:54 pm : link
Cutler has been running for his life in Chicago his whole career there and the OL is still bad. And we think our OL situation sucks - take a look at Indy or Chicago - those QBs have about a second to throw it most downs.

As for Wentz, he's gonna be good, so that sucks.
RE: RE: What? He beat two terrible defense on teams that are a combined 0-4?  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/20/2016 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13132718 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13132712 Bramton1 said:


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Well, what are you waiting for? Give him a yellow jacket and a bust in Canton!



I don't get responses like this. Is anyone really saying that? Of course not.


Yes eagle fans are
so far  
RasputinPrime : 9/20/2016 2:59 pm : link
he doesn't look like a bust. That's all. Talk to me in two years.
RE: And if Eli started  
AnishPatel : 9/20/2016 3:04 pm : link
In comment 13132383 TommyWiseau said:
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his career like Wentz has, everyone here would be singing his praises. Kid has played well so far


That's the annoying part. Sometimes I wish we had this system when Eli was drafted so he could have a QB friendly system as he was starting out rather than the previous system. I am sure other fans and media heads would have a different opinion on him as well.

Hopefully in this system, he can be highly productive and change peoples opinions regarding him.
RE: RE: And if Eli started  
Victor in CT : 9/20/2016 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13132804 AnishPatel said:
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In comment 13132383 TommyWiseau said:


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his career like Wentz has, everyone here would be singing his praises. Kid has played well so far



That's the annoying part. Sometimes I wish we had this system when Eli was drafted so he could have a QB friendly system as he was starting out rather than the previous system. I am sure other fans and media heads would have a different opinion on him as well.

Hopefully in this system, he can be highly productive and change peoples opinions regarding him.


welcome back Anish, it's been a while since I've seen you post.

I totally agree about Eli. Roethlisberger did nothing but hand off for 2 years. Eli was asked to do way more way sooner than any of the others.
Eli being asked...  
Chris in Philly : 9/20/2016 3:30 pm : link
to do more led directly to being successful in an offense that got him two rings. I don't think he would change a thing. We all collectively need to stop caring what people in the media and elsewhere say or think about him.
I have no idea if Wentz will be good or not  
Essex : 9/20/2016 3:41 pm : link
he has been impressive so far. He has averaged 5 yards per attempt which is not a high number, he made a nice throw to Matthews on a long ball that Matthews dropped, he also made two nice throws while under pressure. He also made a couple of wild throws on longer outs where he they were not timing patterns and he underthrew Agohlar on the deep ball where Gruden moaned for PI Who knows? He will probably be a starting QB in this league for a long time, but whether he is Ryan Fitzpatrick or Aaron Rodgers is anyone's guess.

What bothers me is that we have a guy who has played 13 years of high quality football and every single throw he makes is analyzed like the Zapruder film; this guy comes in and throws a couple hitches and out timing patterns and he is the second coming of Joe Montana. It is grating and annoying if you constantly root for an oft-criticized and severely underappreciated QB.
He's looked solid so far  
JohnVB : 9/20/2016 3:46 pm : link
But I think he's gonna get hurt a lot with the hits he takes.
The same guys who HOF Shep poo poo Wentz  
Rafflee : 9/20/2016 5:22 pm : link
What a bunch of Homers!!!...Pathetic!!!

They should be doing back flips in Philly!!!!---that kid is throwing ropes and making decisions and protecting the ball.

I like great young players---I hope he stays away from useless contact.
Wentz has 2 wins against shitty opponents but...  
Torrag : 9/20/2016 6:16 pm : link
...you can't argue he's been poised, tough, intelligent and has a strong accurate arm.
Wentz is the real deal  
Vanzetti : 9/20/2016 6:30 pm : link
He will be a top 5 QB for a decade. Sucks for us. Just gotta hope he has growing pains--like Eli--during his cheap years.

He's looked good thus far.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/20/2016 6:32 pm : link
But so did Leaf & a lot of others @ the starting of their careers.

Man, with all these kid QBs looking good  
Bill in UT : 9/20/2016 6:36 pm : link
it's getting harder and harder to trade Nassib for a high pick
You know..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/20/2016 7:15 pm : link
what ends up being one of the funniest things is that in a game where he went 32-41, there were a bunch of derisive comments about eli on this site during the game thread.

But if you don't think Prescott or Wentz has been impressive, you're a homer. There are very few QB's who just shit the bed anymore - so this whole idea about poise seems a bit overdone.

You know who does seem to shit the bed regularly? Cutler. But I guess that the claims he'd be an all time great is just because some guys grow and some don't. Just like Sanchez I guess.

This is why it is rare that I'll comment on a 1st or 2nd year player, because the guys who turn out like Romo show over time they are really good, while the Sanchez's, the Freeman's, the Kaepernick's, the Kolb's and the Foles' tend to show themselves as flashes in the pan, even with analysts fawning over them early on.

I guess they just didn't grow....
Give credit where credit is due  
NYG_Jase : 9/20/2016 7:19 pm : link
This kid looks good so far. You play who you play. I'm looking forward to the competition twice a year with him. It's still early though and teams will game plan for him and he will have some tough patches but looks legit. He has to be feeling good starting before Goff
He looks good  
Mattcameron12 : 9/20/2016 7:22 pm : link
but it was also the bears and browns, i wouldn't call them great teams... or competent teams
RE: You know..  
Dan in the Springs : 9/20/2016 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13133117 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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what ends up being one of the funniest things is that in a game where he went 32-41, there were a bunch of derisive comments about eli on this site during the game thread.

But if you don't think Prescott or Wentz has been impressive, you're a homer. There are very few QB's who just shit the bed anymore - so this whole idea about poise seems a bit overdone.

You know who does seem to shit the bed regularly? Cutler. But I guess that the claims he'd be an all time great is just because some guys grow and some don't. Just like Sanchez I guess.

This is why it is rare that I'll comment on a 1st or 2nd year player, because the guys who turn out like Romo show over time they are really good, while the Sanchez's, the Freeman's, the Kaepernick's, the Kolb's and the Foles' tend to show themselves as flashes in the pan, even with analysts fawning over them early on.

I guess they just didn't grow....


Not a critique of your overall point - just wanted to add that in lieu of waiting past two years, one should look past 32 games or so. Current case in point: Kirk Cousins. What's the jury got to say about him?
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Micko : 9/20/2016 7:43 pm : link
If you are not impressed with Wentz then you don't know football.
Looked very good  
TMS : 9/20/2016 8:36 pm : link
and not at all like a newbe QB with little expierience. A great find for the HATED Eagles maybe, hope not. Have to see him against a better defense like the Giants for instance.
I  
blue42 : 9/20/2016 9:02 pm : link
thought he looked very good.....franchise qb good.

They look like a different team with him playing qb...we're better but the qb position for them is going to be very solid.
If history serves, they will somehow find a QB  
DonQuixote : 9/20/2016 9:37 pm : link
...and still blow it.
You know..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/20/2016 10:13 pm : link
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ne should look past 32 games or so. Current case in point: Kirk Cousins. What's the jury got to say about him?


I find it odd that the telecasts don't mention the fact cousins has NEVER beaten a team with a winning record as a starter.

That's ridiculous!
Agreed and Philly's Front 7 is gonna be a problem as well  
Bluesbreaker : 9/20/2016 10:22 pm : link
So far
ChicagoMarty : 1:00 pm : link : reply
so good

Wentz looked pretty damn good to me . He does need to learn
to go into a slide and get down quicker or he won't last
the season .
Filthys D will be a problem and they have Depth .
The O-line is a worry for me lets hope no one else goes
down thankfully it was Newhouse but were so thin even
that doesn't help .
At least Johnson got suspended that one did hurt .....
I'm very impressed ....  
Manny in CA : 9/20/2016 10:38 pm : link

But is running around in his blood ? He's already taken some huge shots.
The difference with Wentz  
Vanzetti : 9/20/2016 11:44 pm : link
is he can throw the ball, and he can read defenses. Kaepernick, Wilson, Mariota and a lot of the other flash in the pans could not do one or the other.

I put Dak Prescott in the category with Kaepernick and Foles. He may yet develop into a good QB. But he has had success so far because he has a great running game, they don't ask him to do much and he can make plays with his legs.

But to be a great QB, you need to be able to hit receivers downfield in tight spaces. I have not seen Prescott do that yet on a consistent basis.

I also don't consider Cam a great QB. He is a great Talent. Even a unique talent, who can be a force. But a great QB? Nope.
UConn4523: Agreed.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/21/2016 4:08 am : link
UConn4523 said:
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A message board isn't for you, chill out. We are talking about how he looks after 2 games, not putting him in the hall of fame. Is anyone allowed to talk about the QB of a rival team, or do we have to wait until season 3?

Fair enough - of course Wentz is a legitimate topic for discussion. My point was just that we've sort of exhausted the topic. Wasn't this the third or fourth Carson Wentz thread? We can all agree he looks pretty good so far, aside from taking too many hits.
UConn4523: Agreed.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/21/2016 3:57 am : link
UConn4523 said:
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A message board isn't for you, chill out. We are talking about how he looks after 2 games, not putting him in the hall of fame. Is anyone allowed to talk about the QB of a rival team, or do we have to wait until season 3?

Fair enough - of course Wentz is a legitimate topic for discussion. My point was just that we've sort of exhausted the topic. Wasn't this the third or fourth Carson Wentz thread? We can all agree he looks pretty good so far, aside from taking too many hits.
RE: You know..  
Big Blue '56 : 9/21/2016 7:00 am : link
In comment 13133479 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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ne should look past 32 games or so. Current case in point: Kirk Cousins. What's the jury got to say about him?



I find it odd that the telecasts don't mention the fact cousins has NEVER beaten a team with a winning record as a starter.

That's ridiculous!


Great, you had to mention THAT? Bastid..
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