same here with House of Cards, wildly overrated. Though at #83 (thanks to Vin's better link) I think that's a fine ranking considering season 1 was fantastic. Its just the rest ruins it, especially after season 2.
Hill Street Blues is way too low. Girls is unwatchable. I remember trying to watch it with Mrs. in CT once. She couldn't stand it, and I remember saying that if that's what young girls are like, I'm glad I'm old.
I said it last week...The Wire is the Dostoevsky of television.
Freaks & Geeks is extremely high quality television. Lots of "real" moments and I believe one of the pioneers of no laugh track?
Awesome to see Larry Sanders show. The definition of "ahead of its time".
Letterman over Carson is not far fetched. He jumped the shark very hard later on, but early Letterman is a legend.
Twin Peaks has aged disastrously. It's awful. And I like David Lynch a lot.
Only with him gone do we we realize how ridiculously, unbelievably good Jon Stewart was at his job. Noah never had a chance.
Curb Your Enthusiasm is too high. LD is great and hilarious, but the shittiness of the supporting cast highlights just how contrived the plots are. The Seinfeld actors were good enough to gloss over the crappier, also contrived later episodes
South Park is a top 20 show of all time.
Shoot me, but I thought Veronica Mars was a really well done show.
Re: Homicide. I've been trying to find a way to watch this show forever. I think I'm down to renting DVDs (which presumably still exist?) from my local library (which presumably still exist?)
but having it at #11 with only two seasons (18 episodes total) means to me that (for example) the 1 ridiculously good season of True Detective and one mediocre season should make it a top 10 show.
but it's not.
It should definitely be top 100 IMO, but #11 is kind of high given the limited scope. It didn't have time to get bad. Dexter could have been top 11 with just two seasons.
but having it at #11 with only two seasons (18 episodes total) means to me that (for example) the 1 ridiculously good season of True Detective and one mediocre season should make it a top 10 show.
but it's not.
It should definitely be top 100 IMO, but #11 is kind of high given the limited scope. It didn't have time to get bad. Dexter could have been top 11 with just two seasons.
Fargo, after two seasons might be on the top 100 list.
I just think there has to be a longevity factor. maybe 4 or 5 seasons of quality.
but maybe there would be a top 50 then not top 100.
Sure the special effects are hokey, but back then they were good, but each episode has really interesting story lines. I recorded the first two season and watch them all the time.
Sure the special effects are hokey, but back then they were good, but each episode has really interesting story lines. I recorded the first two season and watch them all the time.
Kind of. It was canceled half way through the season. they later on showed the remaining episodes.
And counting it as one season makes it even less compelling to be top 11. There have been a lot of shows that had one great seasons and then nothing else after that or went quickly downhill.
I would have put Fawlty Towers near the very top. My second favorite comedy series after Seinfeld. Definitely better than Monty Python F C whose sketches were often hit or miss for me.
Did not notice Alfred Hitchcock Presents on list. Long lasting anthology series which sometimes was very good.
One personal choice for a short lived series which was scary as hell for a kid. Kolchak the Night Stalker. I believe that was the inspiration for the X files.
The Wire was far better than The Sopranos.So was Breaking Bad.
from Masterpiece Theater are eligible, there are a number of better entries than Dowtown Abbey. The best was I Claudius. Also better were The Forsyte Saga and Upstairs Downstairs and probably a few others.
but imo it's overrated because of America's fascination with the Italian Mob.
So many great topics that have been covered, yet the go-to "best" in both movies (Godfather 1+2) and TV (Sopranos) is about the Italian Mob? LOL. It's a fun topic but come on.
Whereas The Godfather deserves the hype, I don't think The Sopranos does. It was a 1st ballot HOFer but it wasn't the best ever and doesn't even belong in the discussion imo.
It's not even close to The Wire. The Wire showed that not only could TV match the Big Screen, but it could far surpass it by creating a level of depth beyond anything 2.5 hours of movies could possibly show.
The Sopranos was great for the 1st 2 seasons. I was to me mainly
is definitely top 10 for me, and once you're in the top 10 it's really shifting a few spots one way or the other.
I'd probably have Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, the Wire and Deadwood ahead of the Sopranos but not many more.
Maybe Oz, Vikings (how was that not on the list?), Seinfeld, Simpsons, and Curb, with Six Feet Under and Friday Night Lights in the next tier.
and some fringy ones that I like (and fringy because they're not on the list I don't think) would be It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and the Americans maybe top 20.
One more good season of Fargo and I'd add it to the list. Rome should have been on here too, but not enough seasons.
2.) The Sopranos
3.) Breaking Bad
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Everything else
Sopranos isn't better than Deadwood or Justified.
What's the fun in that?
House
Married with Children
Burn Notice
Golden Girls ad honeymooners ranked way too low. Married with Children has to be on the list somewhere. Al Bundy is too much of an icon to disclude.
Freaks & Geeks is extremely high quality television. Lots of "real" moments and I believe one of the pioneers of no laugh track?
Awesome to see Larry Sanders show. The definition of "ahead of its time".
Letterman over Carson is not far fetched. He jumped the shark very hard later on, but early Letterman is a legend.
Twin Peaks has aged disastrously. It's awful. And I like David Lynch a lot.
Only with him gone do we we realize how ridiculously, unbelievably good Jon Stewart was at his job. Noah never had a chance.
Curb Your Enthusiasm is too high. LD is great and hilarious, but the shittiness of the supporting cast highlights just how contrived the plots are. The Seinfeld actors were good enough to gloss over the crappier, also contrived later episodes
South Park is a top 20 show of all time.
Shoot me, but I thought Veronica Mars was a really well done show.
Re: Homicide. I've been trying to find a way to watch this show forever. I think I'm down to renting DVDs (which presumably still exist?) from my local library (which presumably still exist?)
but it's not.
It should definitely be top 100 IMO, but #11 is kind of high given the limited scope. It didn't have time to get bad. Dexter could have been top 11 with just two seasons.
but it's not.
It should definitely be top 100 IMO, but #11 is kind of high given the limited scope. It didn't have time to get bad. Dexter could have been top 11 with just two seasons.
Fargo, after two seasons might be on the top 100 list.
I just think there has to be a longevity factor. maybe 4 or 5 seasons of quality.
but maybe there would be a top 50 then not top 100.
St Elsewhere?
CSI Original?
Dallas but no Dynasty?
Survivor?
Yes, Downton Abbey should be top 10
Mad Men is absurdly overrated.
Right. Oz made it possible for all the others to happen.
Great show, but there have been better since
Wonderful World of Disney
Carol Burnett Show
Really skewed towards modern stuff and shows on TVLand
I'm guessing no one on the selecting panel was over 40
what other show would make everyone else flee the TV room and leave me holding the remote??
There was only 1 season and it's amazing.
^^^^^^
Also:
Laugh In
Smothers Brothers
Sesame Street
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and geeks vault it to top 10?
There was only 1 season and it's amazing.
Kind of. It was canceled half way through the season. they later on showed the remaining episodes.
And counting it as one season makes it even less compelling to be top 11. There have been a lot of shows that had one great seasons and then nothing else after that or went quickly downhill.
Maybe, but no The Big Bang Theory implies that the list *isn't* garbage.
But there are supposedly 23 shows better than Friday Night Lights? I'll have to watch them all.
That show was a great guilty pleasure and all, but that shouldn't earn it a spot in the top 25.
Sports Night
Homefront
Bonanza
I Spy
Ed Sullivan Show
Smothers Brothers
And if it's international
Monty Python
Secret Agent Man
Dick Cavett
Lots of others
Did not notice Alfred Hitchcock Presents on list. Long lasting anthology series which sometimes was very good.
One personal choice for a short lived series which was scary as hell for a kid. Kolchak the Night Stalker. I believe that was the inspiration for the X files.
The Wire was far better than The Sopranos.So was Breaking Bad.
So many great topics that have been covered, yet the go-to "best" in both movies (Godfather 1+2) and TV (Sopranos) is about the Italian Mob? LOL. It's a fun topic but come on.
Whereas The Godfather deserves the hype, I don't think The Sopranos does. It was a 1st ballot HOFer but it wasn't the best ever and doesn't even belong in the discussion imo.
It's not even close to The Wire. The Wire showed that not only could TV match the Big Screen, but it could far surpass it by creating a level of depth beyond anything 2.5 hours of movies could possibly show.
I'd probably have Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, the Wire and Deadwood ahead of the Sopranos but not many more.
Maybe Oz, Vikings (how was that not on the list?), Seinfeld, Simpsons, and Curb, with Six Feet Under and Friday Night Lights in the next tier.
and some fringy ones that I like (and fringy because they're not on the list I don't think) would be It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and the Americans maybe top 20.
One more good season of Fargo and I'd add it to the list. Rome should have been on here too, but not enough seasons.