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NFT: Mets Game 3 Colon Day!

spike : 9/21/2016 4:39 pm
Starting lineup vs Rookie Ryan Weber

Reyes
Cabrera
Cespedes
Granderson
TJ Rivera
De Aza
Loney
Rene Rivera
BIG SEXY

- When will Duda play on a semi regular basis?

- Is Collins coming to his senses regarding Bruce?

- Wilmer Flores still has a problem with his right wrist, even after two cortisone injections, and remains unable to swing.

- Matz is slated to start on Friday, but will be on a 50 pitch limit.

- Rockies are up 6-1 on the Cardinals, Top 5th.. Giants face LA's Kenta Maeda later.


Don't worry Mets fans  
Jay on the Island : 9/21/2016 4:41 pm : link
Weber is awful this should be a blowout today.
I am just still mad that Wilmer slid head first into home.  
debo_GIANTS : 9/21/2016 4:43 pm : link
He is a complete disaster on the base path. We could have really used his bat off the bench last night.
Just an FYI...  
pjcas18 : 9/21/2016 4:44 pm : link
Rosario and Smith named co-minor league players of the year for the Mets.

Both had huge years and I wouldn't be surprised if both are top 30 prospects to open 2017.

11-1 Rockies over the Cards bot 7th  
spike : 9/21/2016 5:28 pm : link
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Great news  
Metnut : 9/21/2016 5:36 pm : link
about the Cards. Chance to make up some ground.

Sad news about Flores. He was really coming into his own and time is starting to run out. At least TJ is playing well.
RE: Great news  
madgiantscow009 : 9/21/2016 6:09 pm : link
In comment 13134910 Metnut said:
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about the Cards. Chance to make up some ground.

Sad news about Flores. He was really coming into his own and time is starting to run out. At least TJ is playing well.


+1.
Dialing back to Flores' disastrous slide.........................  
Phil in Joisey : 9/21/2016 6:16 pm : link
Terry admitted he lost the game for the team because he should have had a pinch-runner for Flores. A pinch runner most likely would have scored easily. Terry said he was pre-occupied planning his pitching moves and didn't think about a pinch-runner. Well what about the other coaches? Nobody thought of it and mentioned it to T.C.? Are they all afraid to make suggestions to him.....or are they all just plain stupid? Or both?
The flipside is  
spike : 9/21/2016 6:19 pm : link
we "discovered" TJ Rivera because of Flores' injury.

The Mets would have liked to have Flores play against the left hander tomorrow but he's not ready
DeGrom  
spike : 9/21/2016 6:55 pm : link
@JdeGrom19 underwent successful surgery today at the Hospital for Special Surgery to reposition the ulnar nerve.

@JdeGrom19 is expected to be ready for #SpringTraining in 2017. #Mets
I had no idea Rosario was that good when he went  
Rflairr : 9/21/2016 7:47 pm : link
to Binghamton until I heard the guy on MLB Radio today say he might be the second best INF prospect in baseball. Second only to the Red Sox Cuban kid.
Lets get more scoring  
spike : 9/21/2016 7:49 pm : link
on this Weber kid!
aside from the Cabrera homer  
spike : 9/21/2016 8:31 pm : link
this kid's been shutting the Mets down.. surprise surprise
Great job Colon  
spike : 9/21/2016 8:38 pm : link
on getting Freeman out with man in scoring position
If we make it to the play-in game..  
arcarsenal : 9/21/2016 8:42 pm : link
I think Bartolo should pitch. Not Thor.
Cespedes probably needs a game off tomorrow  
spike : 9/21/2016 8:43 pm : link
going another 0 for 3 tonight.

TJ is amazing  
spike : 9/21/2016 8:46 pm : link
I dont think Wilmer is ever getting the 2b job back.

Why didn't we bring him up earlier? All he does is hit. Doesn't it sound like a certain ex-Met in Washington?
Anthony freakin Recker  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:00 pm : link
is having a better season than any of our current catchers.
great job Reed  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:08 pm : link
Its Reed and Fam time!
Reed is such a  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:16 pm : link
gangster. Manuel would have loved him.
still need more runs  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:19 pm : link
We cant live or die based on homers. Gotta string some hits together
damn it Loney  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:20 pm : link
setting it up perfectly for the Braves mashers
ummm... one run lead  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:26 pm : link
in the 8th and we are taking out Reed???? WTF?

I love Smoker and believe he is a future closer but dayum.
why would you take out Reed?  
Vanzetti : 9/21/2016 9:26 pm : link
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RE: why would you take out Reed?  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:27 pm : link
In comment 13135099 Vanzetti said:
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Interesting move. Collins either is a genius or a dumbass
RE: RE: why would you take out Reed?  
Vanzetti : 9/21/2016 9:28 pm : link
In comment 13135102 spike said:
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Interesting move. Collins either is a genius or a dumbass


Well, we already know he is a dumbass. So, the question is whether he will get lucky or have his move backfire in his face like they usually do
lol.  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:29 pm : link
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Freeman singles  
Vanzetti : 9/21/2016 9:30 pm : link
you can't make this shit up--i would be laughing my ass off if it were another team
Collins  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:31 pm : link
has lost his mind
Now you are asking your closer for a four out save  
Vanzetti : 9/21/2016 9:32 pm : link
Just let Reed pitch the 8th and Familia the 9th

what an utter boob we have for a manager
RE: Collins  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:33 pm : link
In comment 13135116 spike said:
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has lost his mind


I dont think he had one to lose. lol. Indefensible. The best setup reliever in baseball who leads all of baseball in holds wasn't good enough to get three outs tonight I guess. Wacky.
5 out save  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:33 pm : link
unless Blevins or Salas comes in the 9th lol
RE: Now you are asking your closer for a four out save  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:33 pm : link
In comment 13135122 Vanzetti said:
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Just let Reed pitch the 8th and Familia the 9th

what an utter boob we have for a manager


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I trust Reed  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:35 pm : link
more than Familia. S orry TC
Well another blown  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:37 pm : link
game.
Kemp is a notorious low ball hitter  
Vanzetti : 9/21/2016 9:38 pm : link
and 2 for 3 lifetime against Familia
they got us  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:38 pm : link
on the double steal.
RE: I trust Reed  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:38 pm : link
In comment 13135138 spike said:
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more than Familia. S orry TC


I trust both and Familia did his job but why in the world would you take out Reed to have Smoker face one of the best hitters in baseball? Maddening.
RE: RE: Now you are asking your closer for a four out save  
Vanzetti : 9/21/2016 9:39 pm : link
In comment 13135128 ZGiants98 said:
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Just let Reed pitch the 8th and Familia the 9th

what an utter boob we have for a manager



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right. Five. What a jackass Collins is
What the fuck man..  
arcarsenal : 9/21/2016 9:39 pm : link
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Loney's error actually killed us.  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:39 pm : link
I despise that POS.
RE: Loney's error actually killed us.  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:40 pm : link
In comment 13135160 ZGiants98 said:
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I despise that POS.


Why can't Duda play 1B?
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ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:41 pm : link
I'm so done with Loney  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/21/2016 9:43 pm : link
what is Familia's K/9 rate? Seems he just doesn't miss bats like he used to. That's just to my eye though.
Its the same old story  
Rflairr : 9/21/2016 9:44 pm : link
No HR. they can't score.
RE: I'm so done with Loney  
Vanzetti : 9/21/2016 9:45 pm : link
In comment 13135170 Rob in Rockaway said:
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what is Familia's K/9 rate? Seems he just doesn't miss bats like he used to. That's just to my eye though.


Kemp is a great low ball hitter. Tough matchup for Familia. Kemp fouled off some nasty pitches.

Familia's K/9 is just under 10  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:46 pm : link
Just like last year. Also same as Syndergaard as a comparison. He also throws a heavy sink that induces grounders so that's pretty damn good factoring all that together. Familia came in and did his job. Got wo outs, one being a sac fly. Cant do much better than that.
lets go  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:47 pm : link
Grandy and TJ.. drive Ces in!
Can someone get a hit with RISP  
Rflairr : 9/21/2016 9:47 pm : link
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Ces is a styling fucking dog  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/21/2016 9:48 pm : link
should be on 3B.
RE: Familia's K/9 is just under 10  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/21/2016 9:50 pm : link
In comment 13135178 ZGiants98 said:
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Just like last year. Also same as Syndergaard as a comparison. He also throws a heavy sink that induces grounders so that's pretty damn good factoring all that together. Familia came in and did his job. Got wo outs, one being a sac fly. Cant do much better than that.


Just my perception then that he seems to be in constant danger this year. Stats other than BB/9 and BABIP seem consistent. I'm out of my league with stats anyway.
Only thing out of ordinary for Familia  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:52 pm : link
is his walks are a hair higher this year but his FIP is actually lower than last year. He has a better fWAR. Of course he leading baseball in saves. He's also been much better in the second half than the first. All relievers are going to have a bad game from time to time but Familia did his job tonight.
Well Ces  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:53 pm : link
makes up for it.
Sonofa  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:54 pm : link
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Fuuuuuuuck.  
arcarsenal : 9/21/2016 9:54 pm : link
We have to get a run in here.
dang it  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:55 pm : link
TJ
Guys who throw thow those frisbee sliders are murder  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/21/2016 9:56 pm : link
on right hand hitters.
Snicker is outmanaging us  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:56 pm : link
We went from Kelly Johnson to Campbell having to save us again.
LOL  
Rflairr : 9/21/2016 9:57 pm : link
Really Collins? You didn't think he would do that? This guy just burnt like 4 players.
LOL..  
arcarsenal : 9/21/2016 9:57 pm : link
Plawecki.. this should go well
Soup getting intentional walked  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:57 pm : link
please get Jay Bruce up there. This is too much
RE: Snicker is outmanaging us  
Rflairr : 9/21/2016 9:58 pm : link
In comment 13135204 spike said:
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We went from Kelly Johnson to Campbell having to save us again.


He better hope Plawecki comes through. Because if not that was totally being out managed
RE: LOL  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:58 pm : link
In comment 13135207 Rflairr said:
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Really Collins? You didn't think he would do that? This guy just burnt like 4 players.


Maybe Kroll will walk in the go ahead run?
Of course the right-hander  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 9:58 pm : link
who finished third in batting in the PCL is on the bench... :(
F the Barves  
spike : 9/21/2016 9:58 pm : link
We still got a Duda
Swings at ball 3  
Rflairr : 9/21/2016 10:00 pm : link
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Fuckin Plawecki swings at ball 3  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/21/2016 10:00 pm : link
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What a fucking joke.  
arcarsenal : 9/21/2016 10:01 pm : link
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RE: Fuckin Plawecki swings at ball 3  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:01 pm : link
In comment 13135218 Rob in Rockaway said:
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strikes out on another ball.
LOL  
Rflairr : 9/21/2016 10:01 pm : link
Way to go Collins.
Back to AAA clown  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/21/2016 10:01 pm : link
that wasn't a major league AB
Fuck me  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 10:01 pm : link
running.
These Barves will be tough next season  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:02 pm : link
It will be a dogfight in the NL East
Ty Kelly has a short swing  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 10:03 pm : link
and a great eye. Checchini was third in the entire PCL in hitting. Nope. Go to Plawecki who couldn't find his asshole with a roadmap when he was last here. Ugh.
enough of this shit  
Vanzetti : 9/21/2016 10:03 pm : link
I can't watch a team managed by this clown
Hopefully TC falls asleep soon and we pull this out  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/21/2016 10:05 pm : link
while he naps
TC is awful  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:07 pm : link
He would make a decent bench coach but not a master chess player
Collins really screwed himself  
Rflairr : 9/21/2016 10:07 pm : link
Just terrible managing. Pinch running for Conforto with two outs after you just double switched for him. Now Lagares who is is hurt and can't hit is batting second. And then letting the Braves manager make him burn like four players and only one actually got an at bat. Just terrible.
Wake me up when Familia gets a fucking strikeout  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/21/2016 10:10 pm : link
I can't remember the last one
You would think the Braves  
Rflairr : 9/21/2016 10:10 pm : link
were the team in contention
This game is brutal.  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 10:10 pm : link
All downhill the moment we removed Reed for Smoker.
Up my Ass  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/21/2016 10:11 pm : link
TU!
blown save  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:12 pm : link
Thanks TC.
RE: Wake me up when Familia gets a fucking strikeout  
Rflairr : 9/21/2016 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13135243 Rob in Rockaway said:
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I can't remember the last one


Couldn't get one there. Even up 1-2
NVM had the damn count wrong  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/21/2016 10:12 pm : link
back to my original point. Whatever that was
I'm feel sick  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:13 pm : link
2008 all over again
Why the hell  
ryanmkeane : 9/21/2016 10:14 pm : link
wasn't the infield in against Inciarte????
Need Nimmo  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:17 pm : link
to steal 2nd base before Jay Bruce
Jay Bruce  
pjcas18 : 9/21/2016 10:18 pm : link
is going to walk it off
RE: Need Nimmo  
Stufftherun : 9/21/2016 10:18 pm : link
In comment 13135262 spike said:
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to steal 2nd base before Jay Bruce


Before Jay Bruce does what?
RE: I'm feel sick  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 10:18 pm : link
In comment 13135256 spike said:
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2008 all over again


Im good with it. Dont have that feeling at all. Those 2007 and 2008 teams had a bunch of older guys near the end of the line and you felt like that was their last chance and they really choked and played below their talent level. This team should have been WAY better than this but they got blown to smithereens with injuries. What can we do?
Bruce is a Joke  
Rflairr : 9/21/2016 10:21 pm : link
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RE: RE: Need Nimmo  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13135265 Stufftherun said:
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to steal 2nd base before Jay Bruce



Before Jay Bruce does what?
RE: Jay Bruce  
pjcas18 : 9/21/2016 10:23 pm : link
In comment 13135264 pjcas18 said:
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is going to walk it off

what I meant was he is going to walk off the field to the dugout after he strikes out.
RE: RE: RE: Need Nimmo  
Stufftherun : 9/21/2016 10:23 pm : link
In comment 13135273 spike said:
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to steal 2nd base before Jay Bruce



Before Jay Bruce does what?



Nuff said.
lets go Cespedes  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:26 pm : link
Redeem yourself
F the Barves  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:27 pm : link
Go to hell
Too bad Ces is lost  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 10:28 pm : link
Game over.
I quit.  
arcarsenal : 9/21/2016 10:28 pm : link
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Fire Collins  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:28 pm : link
if the Mets fail to get the WC.

Inexcusable.
I have no words  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/21/2016 10:29 pm : link
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Well fuck me!  
Stufftherun : 9/21/2016 10:29 pm : link
Being swept by these guys is beyond disgraceful with all that they've worked for. If they don't end up in the post season they can look no further than their failure to take care of business.
Was that really going over?  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 10:29 pm : link
Damn I guess so. Shit.
RE: Was that really going over?  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:31 pm : link
In comment 13135299 ZGiants98 said:
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Damn I guess so. Shit.


Yep Cespedes and the Mets were robbed.

Well fair is fair....  
ZGiants98 : 9/21/2016 10:31 pm : link
If Collins gets this group into the postseason he should be commended. I'll also be ready to move on if he doesn't.
Swept again at home by the  
Rflairr : 9/21/2016 10:32 pm : link
worst team in the division
RE: RE: Was that really going over?  
Stufftherun : 9/21/2016 10:33 pm : link
In comment 13135301 spike said:
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Damn I guess so. Shit.



Yep Cespedes and the Mets were robbed.


I'd say robbed only if they didn't put themselves in a position to lose.
RE: Well fuck me!  
Rflairr : 9/21/2016 10:33 pm : link
In comment 13135298 Stufftherun said:
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Being swept by these guys is beyond disgraceful with all that they've worked for. If they don't end up in the post season they can look no further than their failure to take care of business.


Haven't took care of business against the Braves all season
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spike : 9/21/2016 10:34 pm : link
In comment 13135307 Stufftherun said:
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Damn I guess so. Shit.



Yep Cespedes and the Mets were robbed.




I'd say robbed only if they didn't put themselves in a position to lose.


Collins f up tonight with the Reed/Smoker move
The only Met who has regularly come up Big ...  
BobA : 9/21/2016 10:36 pm : link
in big situations, is now playing for the Nats.
This TC needs to go the way of the other TC  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:37 pm : link
Retirement. At least from managing
RE: The only Met who has regularly come up Big ...  
pjcas18 : 9/21/2016 10:38 pm : link
In comment 13135317 BobA said:
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in big situations, is now playing for the Nats.


In true Mets fashion, he's injured and out indefinitely
Brutal brutal  
Metnut : 9/21/2016 10:41 pm : link
Two times i thought Cespedes homered and both times no dice.

Our record is only half the game here. Cards lost. Dodgers up 4-1. Go dodgers and let's forget about this and try again tomorrow. Need to have short memories this time of year. LGM
Need Seth Lugo  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:43 pm : link
to kick some Phillies butt tomorrow. The bleeding has to stop and the hitting has to START!
Thanks  
spike : 9/21/2016 10:44 pm : link
Puig. Send those Bums home
smoker  
Ron Johnson : 9/21/2016 10:45 pm : link
made a good pitch. unlucky
It's coming down to 10 games  
spike : 9/22/2016 7:40 am : link
Mets
4 vs Phillies, 3 @ Marlins, 3 @ Phillies

Cardinals
3 @ Cubs, 4 vs Reds, 3 vs Pirates

Giants
4 @ Padres, 3 vs Rockies, 3 vs Dodgers


I don't see us doing better than the Cardinals, but hopefully Giants will beat themselves next week. Also tiebreaker between the Cards and the Mets goes to St Louis, because of better division record, after an even 3-3 head to head games.
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arcarsenal : 9/22/2016 8:21 am : link
Jay Bruce might be the worst Met I've ever seen.
Best season ever.  
GiantFilthy : 9/22/2016 8:24 am : link
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RE: Best season ever.  
Shecky : 9/22/2016 8:31 am : link
In comment 13135497 GiantFilthy said:
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Be careful filthy. Someone might have poisoned your bucketful if morning coffee. Brutal...
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Stufftherun : 9/22/2016 8:48 am : link
In comment 13135496 arcarsenal said:
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Jay Bruce might be the worst Met I've ever seen.


Could it be any more evident that he never wanted to be here? Blame has to be placed at someone's feet if the stories are true.
RE: The only Met who has regularly come up Big ...  
Victor in CT : 9/22/2016 8:58 am : link
In comment 13135317 BobA said:
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in big situations, is now playing for the Nats.


Cespedes was traded to Washington?!! Holy Shit!
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Victor in CT : 9/22/2016 8:59 am : link
In comment 13135529 Stufftherun said:
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Jay Bruce might be the worst Met I've ever seen.



Could it be any more evident that he never wanted to be here? Blame has to be placed at someone's feet if the stories are true.


Sandy Alderson? He who wanted Carlos Gomez and NOT Cespedes last year?
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spike : 9/22/2016 9:00 am : link
In comment 13135496 arcarsenal said:
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Jay Bruce might be the worst Met I've ever seen.


What can we get from the Reds if we trade him back?

I think he does miss his family and his young child.
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pjcas18 : 9/22/2016 9:14 am : link
In comment 13135496 arcarsenal said:
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Jay Bruce might be the worst Met I've ever seen.


He's quickly attained Jason Bay status. At least with Bay I blame the concussion and probably PED's in Boston, but no excuse with Bruce.
I'm not going to kill  
Metnut : 9/22/2016 9:32 am : link
Sandy for the Bruce trade. I never liked the trade, even when it was rumored because Bruce hasn't been a good player for years, but Sandy thought he'd be a power bat and didn't really give up much. With guys like Flores, Rivera, Cecchini, Herrera isn't really a big piece here.

My main concern with Bruce is that he's going to keep taking ABs for the Mets and he keep making outs and playing shitty defense because he's a bad baseball player. As long as he's not back next year, I'm more than happy to close the book on this and just pretend it never happened.
Bruce  
Metnut : 9/22/2016 9:34 am : link
has something like a 90wRC in his last 1500 plate appearances. All this, and playing some of the worst defense in the league at a corner OF spot. Terrible.
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