I'm watching CNN this morning and I just saw a protester knock a CNN reporter to the ground. A few minutes after that, I heard another CNN reporter asking a protester, "Are you going to hit me?"
from yesterday of the victim's brother calling white people devil's. There also is footage of the daughter saying this is modern day lynching. They haven't made any statements today, presumably after they found out the officer who shot the man is black White devils - ( New Window )
officers were injured last night, but not shot. They were hit with rocks the size of baseballs and the most serious injury was a fractured skull from a brick.
The thing that bothers me the most about all of this...
is that in most of the cases that these types of protests are occurring after, MOST CASES, NOT ALL BUT MOST, the person has been either armed, not following commands, resisting arrest, or some combination of all three.
officers were injured last night, but not shot. They were hit with rocks the size of baseballs and the most serious injury was a fractured skull from a brick.
Yeah I fucked that up. I meant 17 injured. Totally wrong on my part.
gave a great response today that people need to wait for the facts. He said he himself has heard a lot of different stories that conflict with one another.
Ron Rivera was pissed that his team was onlt being asked questions about the shooting.
it's not coming across well to the majority of Americans who turn on the television and see nothing but looting, unrest, and the attacking of innocent people.
from yesterday of the victim's brother calling white people devil's. There also is footage of the daughter saying this is modern day lynching. They haven't made any statements today, presumably after they found out the officer who shot the man is black White devils - ( New Window )
And other witnesses said they saw him with a gun and there was no book found.
Protester is now pronounced dead. No one knows who responsible is yet.
Race or police brutality? The police officer in question is African American? Why are some of these rioters yelling about white people? The police chief in Charlotte says without a doubt the deceased man had a gun and refused to comply with orders. That is a bad recipe.
Race or police brutality? The police officer in question is African American? Why are some of these rioters yelling about white people? The police chief in Charlotte says without a doubt the deceased man had a gun and refused to comply with orders. That is a bad recipe.
I think most of them are there for the looting and an excuse to go wild.
I mean they showed people going off last night about white people being devils, one daughter said "a Cracker murdered my daddy", murderers and lynchers.
I can't imagine any circumstance where the news would have a reason to show a white person going off on blacks using epithets where it wouldn't be immediately denounced.
You know what the reporter said "Raw emotions are running high, but these are the voices of people tired of the brutality". I can't imagine any scenario where a reporter would say the same if a white guy went across the screen talking about Niggers or waving a confederate flag talking about blacks in a bad way. None.
There is a problem with police brutality. There is also a problem when hate speech is shown on the news and not denounced.
that amount of lies that are spreading like wildfire are sparking further outrage.
For instance, this protester that was killed tonight was shot by another civilian. They are trying to stir it up on social media and tell people that the police "ambushed" the protester and shot him in the head point blank execution style. People are actually believing it, retweeting it, and getting outraged.
Race or police brutality? The police officer in question is African American? Why are some of these rioters yelling about white people? The police chief in Charlotte says without a doubt the deceased man had a gun and refused to comply with orders. That is a bad recipe.
I think most of them are there for the looting and an excuse to go wild.
There will always be that faction or group who take this as an opportunity to commit crime. But is it really most of the protesters? That's a pretty assumptive statement to make.
So whether that's the fault of the media, or perception vs. reality...
Goes back to my statement before. Regardless of the message, it's not painting a very good picture for the majority of Americans that are watching, or making them sympathetic.
I'm across the border in SC. About 10 miles from uptown Charlotte. From what I can see, they look like they are near the bus station which is close to the Hornets arena.
screaming at them, waving their hands in their faces, sticking their fingers in their faces, demanding answers like these dudes have any idea about what happened yesterday other than what they heard just like everybody else.
Plus, there's a line of camera phones out right in the faces of the cops almost like they're baiting them to do something on camera.
They are trying to create something that's not there.
really. Have been tied up at work all day and just got in. Had no idea any of this was happening and figured he had some take on this. I am honestly asking what his position was because I missed it.
Or at least with a lie for a catalyst, what happens? Does the digital pile-on feel chastened enough to acknowledge that they were fucking wrong and that the atmosphere to which they contributed (albeit in small, small measure) got people hurt and killed, or do they latch onto the next conclusion to jump to, no wiser for the wear?
When anger finally boils over, it's usually irrational.
I just hope the rational among us keep having honest conversations about this shit. Too many black men being killed by police. Too much violence against police. We are supposed to be better than this.
If you think you have this figured out and everyone else is wrong, you're full of shit. there's layers and layers of history and context and personal experiences at work here.
Less violence is our goal. Let's work backwards from there.
Or at least with a lie for a catalyst, what happens? Does the digital pile-on feel chastened enough to acknowledge that they were fucking wrong and that the atmosphere to which they contributed (albeit in small, small measure) got people hurt and killed, or do they latch onto the next conclusion to jump to, no wiser for the wear?
There has been a pattern developing over two years or so, starting with "hands up don't shoot", so I think you know the answer to that question.
Or at least with a lie for a catalyst, what happens? Does the digital pile-on feel chastened enough to acknowledge that they were fucking wrong and that the atmosphere to which they contributed (albeit in small, small measure) got people hurt and killed, or do they latch onto the next conclusion to jump to, no wiser for the wear?
How or why did it start? These damn news channels are not recapping what the cause was.
like Britt said there have already been a lot of cases built on specious initial eyewitness accounts that stoke the flames of anger. whether it be George Zimmerman named as a white man, then modified to White hispanic, to Ferguson where the "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" bacame a mantra that never happened.
Hopefully now it isn't "It's just a book"
RE: RE: If this is in fact a riot built on a lie...
Or at least with a lie for a catalyst, what happens? Does the digital pile-on feel chastened enough to acknowledge that they were fucking wrong and that the atmosphere to which they contributed (albeit in small, small measure) got people hurt and killed, or do they latch onto the next conclusion to jump to, no wiser for the wear?
How or why did it start? These damn news channels are not recapping what the cause was.
Guy got shot by the cops yesterday. They were serving a warrant and a guy that was just in the area got out of his car.
Cop story is he had a gun, refused to comply with an order to drop it, and they shot him.
Community witness story is that guy had a book, not a gun.
Police say there was no book and they have recovered the handgun.
Or at least with a lie for a catalyst, what happens? Does the digital pile-on feel chastened enough to acknowledge that they were fucking wrong and that the atmosphere to which they contributed (albeit in small, small measure) got people hurt and killed, or do they latch onto the next conclusion to jump to, no wiser for the wear?
How or why did it start? These damn news channels are not recapping what the cause was.
Guy got shot by the cops yesterday. They were serving a warrant and a guy that was just in the area got out of his car.
Cop story is he had a gun, refused to comply with an order to drop it, and they shot him.
Community witness story is that guy had a book, not a gun.
Police say there was no book and they have recovered the handgun.
The officer that shot him was black.
ok thanks Britt... I knew about the guy getting shot outside of his car by the white female cop but had no idea WTF happened in Charlotte. Thank you.
They shot and killed the guy and then the group of cops stood around panicked and let the guy bleed out and die. I admittedly haven't been following much of this stuff in Charlotte, but in general, if I were a black person in this country I'd be pissed too
Scary stuff.
White devils - ( New Window )
What do they want? Lawlessness?
Yeah I fucked that up. I meant 17 injured. Totally wrong on my part.
Ron Rivera was pissed that his team was onlt being asked questions about the shooting.
And other witnesses said they saw him with a gun and there was no book found.
Protester is now pronounced dead. No one knows who responsible is yet.
Also, is it proper protester etiquette to have to take one's shirt off before looting and hurling objects?
Also, is it proper protester etiquette to have to take one's shirt off before looting and hurling objects?
That and filming yourself and livestreaming it.
I think most of them are there for the looting and an excuse to go wild.
I can't imagine any circumstance where the news would have a reason to show a white person going off on blacks using epithets where it wouldn't be immediately denounced.
You know what the reporter said "Raw emotions are running high, but these are the voices of people tired of the brutality". I can't imagine any scenario where a reporter would say the same if a white guy went across the screen talking about Niggers or waving a confederate flag talking about blacks in a bad way. None.
There is a problem with police brutality. There is also a problem when hate speech is shown on the news and not denounced.
Could eliminate most of the problem.
Just saying...
For instance, this protester that was killed tonight was shot by another civilian. They are trying to stir it up on social media and tell people that the police "ambushed" the protester and shot him in the head point blank execution style. People are actually believing it, retweeting it, and getting outraged.
It's all completely out of control.
Lies on top of lies on top of lies....
Also, is it proper protester etiquette to have to take one's shirt off before looting and hurling objects?
Where are people getting the bandanas? At this point in my life wouldnt even know what store sells them.
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Race or police brutality? The police officer in question is African American? Why are some of these rioters yelling about white people? The police chief in Charlotte says without a doubt the deceased man had a gun and refused to comply with orders. That is a bad recipe.
I think most of them are there for the looting and an excuse to go wild.
There will always be that faction or group who take this as an opportunity to commit crime. But is it really most of the protesters? That's a pretty assumptive statement to make.
Really?
People honestly do think they live in a bubble.
Goes back to my statement before. Regardless of the message, it's not painting a very good picture for the majority of Americans that are watching, or making them sympathetic.
My personal opinion of course.
Really?
People honestly do think they live in a bubble.
Plus, there's a line of camera phones out right in the faces of the cops almost like they're baiting them to do something on camera.
They are trying to create something that's not there.
Everything has been civil on this thread. Then you have to come in here and spew your horseshit. Come on.
I just hope the rational among us keep having honest conversations about this shit. Too many black men being killed by police. Too much violence against police. We are supposed to be better than this.
If you think you have this figured out and everyone else is wrong, you're full of shit. there's layers and layers of history and context and personal experiences at work here.
Less violence is our goal. Let's work backwards from there.
There has been a pattern developing over two years or so, starting with "hands up don't shoot", so I think you know the answer to that question.
How or why did it start? These damn news channels are not recapping what the cause was.
Hopefully now it isn't "It's just a book"
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Or at least with a lie for a catalyst, what happens? Does the digital pile-on feel chastened enough to acknowledge that they were fucking wrong and that the atmosphere to which they contributed (albeit in small, small measure) got people hurt and killed, or do they latch onto the next conclusion to jump to, no wiser for the wear?
How or why did it start? These damn news channels are not recapping what the cause was.
Guy got shot by the cops yesterday. They were serving a warrant and a guy that was just in the area got out of his car.
Cop story is he had a gun, refused to comply with an order to drop it, and they shot him.
Community witness story is that guy had a book, not a gun.
Police say there was no book and they have recovered the handgun.
The officer that shot him was black.
Early reports said he was innocently sitting in his car reading a book and that he was shot by a white cop.
In reality, the guy was being issued a warrant, had a weapon as he exited the vehicle, and was shot dead by a black police officer.
Not sure how it has boiled over to what it has today.
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Or at least with a lie for a catalyst, what happens? Does the digital pile-on feel chastened enough to acknowledge that they were fucking wrong and that the atmosphere to which they contributed (albeit in small, small measure) got people hurt and killed, or do they latch onto the next conclusion to jump to, no wiser for the wear?
How or why did it start? These damn news channels are not recapping what the cause was.
Guy got shot by the cops yesterday. They were serving a warrant and a guy that was just in the area got out of his car.
Cop story is he had a gun, refused to comply with an order to drop it, and they shot him.
Community witness story is that guy had a book, not a gun.
Police say there was no book and they have recovered the handgun.
The officer that shot him was black.
ok thanks Britt... I knew about the guy getting shot outside of his car by the white female cop but had no idea WTF happened in Charlotte. Thank you.
Early reports said he was innocently sitting in his car reading a book and that he was shot by a white cop.
In reality, the guy was being issued a warrant, had a weapon as he exited the vehicle, and was shot dead by a black police officer.
Not sure how it has boiled over to what it has today.
alright thank you