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dep026 : 9/21/2016 9:24 pm
All I can say is what a mess and it will not get better folks.
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RE: RE: RE: If this is in fact a riot built on a lie...  
Giants2012 : 9/21/2016 10:35 pm : link
In comment 13135305 Britt in VA said:
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The officer that shot him was black.


So what is this all about? Just cops vs blacks even if the cop is black?
RE: I was being serious...  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 10:37 pm : link
In comment 13135283 EricJ said:
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really. Have been tied up at work all day and just got in. Had no idea any of this was happening and figured he had some take on this. I am honestly asking what his position was because I missed it.


Sure
I do think some flames..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/21/2016 10:37 pm : link
were fanned because there were news accounts speculating that it was another shooting of an unarmed black man by a white cop and then you had the nonsense with the victims family calling people white devils and crackers. If people only saw those accounts, they have a slanted picture of what happened.
The incident in Tulsa seems much worse  
B in ALB : 9/21/2016 10:37 pm : link
from a police action standpoint. Unarmed, non violent - female cop shoots the guy.


Damn, this is getting bad. Another cameraman injured, fires, fights, and now more tear gas.
The default will be to find wider issues to blame...  
Dunedin81 : 9/21/2016 10:38 pm : link
And undoubtedly some of them have merit. But there is no acknowledgement that the shitty, false conclusion to which the person jumped fed into wider hysteria that led to looting, rioting and injuries and even deaths. If you actually give a shit about helping people, have the humility or the restraint to wait for the facts to come out before you assume that someone sworn to protect and serve callously took another life without the barest justification.
Take a look at the rebel rousers involved  
Kivorkian : 9/21/2016 10:38 pm : link
Appear to be extreme intelligent adults who have a lot to offer society. After working a full day being useful they came home had dinner with the family ,read their kids a bedtime story, and now on to The streets to loot and riot. Way to further your cause people!
It is like being stuck between a  
section125 : 9/21/2016 10:38 pm : link
rock and a hard place.
On one hand you feel empathy that African Americans are treated differently than others by the police (I do) but then protesters act violently at demonstrations causing more tension and further violence which requires further police presence.
Saw a Black Muslim Imam dispute that the cop who shot the fellow in Charlotte was a black cop and said it didn't matter because he is blue. He said the police are lying and the guy didn't have a gun. Hell the police weren't there for the an that got killed, they were responding to another address/incident. Whatever he did made him get noticed by the police.
RE: RE: RE: RE: If this is in fact a riot built on a lie...  
Britt in VA : 9/21/2016 10:39 pm : link
In comment 13135316 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 13135305 Britt in VA said:


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The officer that shot him was black.



So what is this all about? Just cops vs blacks even if the cop is black?


Well, many of the protesters were saying the guy was shot by "white devil cops", so I thought it was relevant to point out that it was, in fact, not a white devil cop that shot him.
The race of the officer is irrelevant  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 10:39 pm : link
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RE: I was being serious...  
B in ALB : 9/21/2016 10:40 pm : link
In comment 13135283 EricJ said:
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really. Have been tied up at work all day and just got in. Had no idea any of this was happening and figured he had some take on this. I am honestly asking what his position was because I missed it.


Don't bullshit us bud. Just own it. You hate Obama and every chance you have to passive aggressively attack him, you'll take. And that's fine. It's your right.

Just don't come on here and lie about it after you get called out.
RE: The race of the officer is irrelevant  
Moondawg : 9/21/2016 10:41 pm : link
In comment 13135328 AP in Halfmoon said:
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Facts matter.
RE: Take a look at the rebel rousers involved  
B in ALB : 9/21/2016 10:41 pm : link
In comment 13135324 Kivorkian said:
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Appear to be extreme intelligent adults who have a lot to offer society. After working a full day being useful they came home had dinner with the family ,read their kids a bedtime story, and now on to The streets to loot and riot. Way to further your cause people!


Rebel rousers? Hahahaha. Wow.
RE: The race of the officer is irrelevant  
Britt in VA : 9/21/2016 10:41 pm : link
In comment 13135328 AP in Halfmoon said:
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It should be, but it's not.
Open carry complicates things  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 10:43 pm : link
I think the federal government should fund body cameras for every armed cop in America.
I work next to where this is all taking place  
timintey : 9/21/2016 10:43 pm : link
Needless to say, I'm not going into the office tomorrow. This is disgraceful.
Rebel rousers?  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 10:45 pm : link
I'm seeing mostly tourists or rubber neckers with I Phones
RE: The race of the officer is irrelevant  
Bill L : 9/21/2016 10:45 pm : link
In comment 13135328 AP in Halfmoon said:
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i don't agree with this at all. The narrative That has driven all of this is racism. How can race be irrelevant?
RE: Open carry complicates things  
Bill L : 9/21/2016 10:48 pm : link
In comment 13135338 AP in Halfmoon said:
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I think the federal government should fund body cameras for every armed cop in America.
Also disagree with this. I like the camera and want every second of footage YouTubed. But it's not up to the federal govt to fund it. Local taxes should do it
I believe it has more to do with police  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 10:48 pm : link
showing bias against blacks.
RE: The race of the officer is irrelevant  
section125 : 9/21/2016 10:48 pm : link
In comment 13135328 AP in Halfmoon said:
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It shouldn't be, but it is because the feeling is that white cops are to blame for the aggressive policing tactics.
Bill  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 10:49 pm : link
It's one thing, perhaps the only thing they Feds can do.
Stop spending money on  
B in ALB : 9/21/2016 10:51 pm : link
armored troop carriers and vehicles and allocate to body cams. All done at the local level.
After Looting, rioting and destroying  
Kivorkian : 9/21/2016 10:51 pm : link
Public property do these people go home, shower and set their clocks for work the next morning? Just wondering.
RE: Stop spending money on  
section125 : 9/21/2016 10:54 pm : link
In comment 13135349 B in ALB said:
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armored troop carriers and vehicles and allocate to body cams. All done at the local level.


Agree
I saw the aftermath of this on CNN with the officers carrying this  
Britt in VA : 9/21/2016 10:54 pm : link
poor guy away:

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WCCB, Charlotte's CWVerified account
‏@WCCBCharlotte

#WCCB witnessed protesters try to throw still photographer into fire in Uptown #Charlotte. http://www.wccbcharlotte.com/live-streaming/ #CharlotteProtest #news


They knocked a camera man out, then tried to drag him on top of a fire they started.
It is a sad state....  
George from PA : 9/21/2016 10:57 pm : link
I know several wonderful black people that truly believe that police target them and feel they want to harm them.....

I personally think that is just crazy....

Sure police face danger everyday....and make mistakes....and unfortunately a police mistake....could kill someone....that is innocent.

The majority of the 700 or so police shooting....are legit.

Stray bullets from an active legit shootout are by far the majority.

These cases of targeted purposeful shooting of someone that is innocent and without cause.....is less then 10....if not less then 5.

The Charlotte incident .might be innocent but carrying a gun....at least he has a ankle holster....is a shooting with cause.

The Oklahoma seem bad.....that look like a real bad shooting. What the hell was that policewomen thinking.....

Each shooting should be thoroughly explained, talk and explained......

Cops make mistakes....but I have a very hard time believing it is done on purpose.


Hey there's a guy with a Giants hat there!  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/21/2016 10:57 pm : link
Which BBIer is protesting?!
This is a total disgrace  
Chris684 : 9/21/2016 10:58 pm : link
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RE: RE: Stop spending money on  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 10:59 pm : link
In comment 13135351 section125 said:
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In comment 13135349 B in ALB said:


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armored troop carriers and vehicles and allocate to body cams. All done at the local level.



Agree


I agree but I think the Feds buy those vehicles. It's "growth" for defense contractors with lobbyists
This is a total disgrace  
Chris684 : 9/21/2016 10:59 pm : link
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RE: RE: I was being serious...  
EricJ : 9/21/2016 11:04 pm : link
In comment 13135330 B in ALB said:
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In comment 13135283 EricJ said:


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really. Have been tied up at work all day and just got in. Had no idea any of this was happening and figured he had some take on this. I am honestly asking what his position was because I missed it.



Don't bullshit us bud. Just own it. You hate Obama and every chance you have to passive aggressively attack him, you'll take. And that's fine. It's your right.

Just don't come on here and lie about it after you get called out.


It really does not matter to me what any of you think my motive was for asking that original question. I really don't have to justify anything to anyone here. However, if you really care that much, or are taking yourselves so seriously on a freaking message board then you can go look at my post history and see that I have not been here in 24 hours. Then, if you really want to waste more time you can go back to earlier posts (months even) and see where I am literally on the road and in the air every week with stretches where I am totally disconnected from current events... just like all day today.
RE: RE: RE: Stop spending money on  
B in ALB : 9/21/2016 11:04 pm : link
In comment 13135360 AP in Halfmoon said:
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In comment 13135351 section125 said:


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In comment 13135349 B in ALB said:


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armored troop carriers and vehicles and allocate to body cams. All done at the local level.



Agree



I agree but I think the Feds buy those vehicles. It's "growth" for defense contractors with lobbyists


Nope. It's the local and state governments that buy them from the fed.
George  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 11:06 pm : link
Isn't this open carry?

The Charlotte incident .might be innocent but carrying a gun....at least he has a ankle holster....is a shooting with cause.

My guess is November 9th  
bradshaw44 : 9/21/2016 11:07 pm : link
Will be the day that defines modern America. Our division is clear and present. And most definitely a danger.
RE: Open carry complicates things  
EricJ : 9/21/2016 11:07 pm : link
In comment 13135338 AP in Halfmoon said:
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I think the federal government should fund body cameras for every armed cop in America.


+1 and it would most likely help exonerate cops in some instances and justifiably get those cops suspended or prosecuted in other instances. If I was a cop, I would want the body camera for my own protection today.
dash cam supposedly  
dep026 : 9/21/2016 11:08 pm : link
shows man who was killed had a gun showing.

Ooopsie.
B  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 11:08 pm : link
Thanks, either way it's a crazy use of funds.
RE: dash cam supposedly  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 11:09 pm : link
In comment 13135371 dep026 said:
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shows man who was killed had a gun showing.

Ooopsie.


I thought carrying a gun was legal there
RE: dash cam supposedly  
Britt in VA : 9/21/2016 11:10 pm : link
In comment 13135371 dep026 said:
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shows man who was killed had a gun showing.

Ooopsie.


Shocking.
RE: RE: dash cam supposedly  
Britt in VA : 9/21/2016 11:10 pm : link
In comment 13135373 AP in Halfmoon said:
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In comment 13135371 dep026 said:


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shows man who was killed had a gun showing.

Ooopsie.



I thought carrying a gun was legal there


Yeah, but when the police are telling you to drop it, a license to carry doesn't exempt you from that command.
RE: RE: dash cam supposedly  
pjcas18 : 9/21/2016 11:11 pm : link
In comment 13135373 AP in Halfmoon said:
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In comment 13135371 dep026 said:


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shows man who was killed had a gun showing.

Ooopsie.



I thought carrying a gun was legal there


With a permit, not constitutional carry
They looted a Hornets store  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 11:12 pm : link
It's probably the most jerseys they move all year.
RE: They looted a Hornets store  
dep026 : 9/21/2016 11:13 pm : link
In comment 13135380 AP in Halfmoon said:
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It's probably the most jerseys they move all year.


golfclap.
RE: RE: RE: dash cam supposedly  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 11:15 pm : link
In comment 13135378 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13135373 AP in Halfmoon said:


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In comment 13135371 dep026 said:


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shows man who was killed had a gun showing.

Ooopsie.



I thought carrying a gun was legal there



With a permit, not constitutional carry


The cops claim they saw a gun. I'm fairly certain that's legal there.
And as I scrolled through and read  
Mike Graves : 9/21/2016 11:17 pm : link
Every single comment on this thread their was probably hundreds of black on black murders that we will never hear about that just happened, poor young black children lose their lives every day by stray gunfire and we never hear about it. I am so sick of this race baiting media, that's the problem, the media
RE: RE: RE: RE: dash cam supposedly  
pjcas18 : 9/21/2016 11:19 pm : link
In comment 13135382 AP in Halfmoon said:
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In comment 13135378 pjcas18 said:


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In comment 13135373 AP in Halfmoon said:


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In comment 13135371 dep026 said:


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shows man who was killed had a gun showing.

Ooopsie.



I thought carrying a gun was legal there



With a permit, not constitutional carry



The cops claim they saw a gun. I'm fairly certain that's legal there.

Not open carry, I don't believe.
It's concealed carry, with a permit.

and by law you need to inform law enforcement you have a weapon.

gun laws from state to state are tricky. I don't know them all, but I don't think it's illegal to own or carry a weapon in and of itself, but I believe it must be concealed and disclosed to law enforcement.
And false reports on social media  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 11:21 pm : link
I wouldn't last as a cop. I would slap that asshole wearing a gas mask trying to stare the cop down
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AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 11:24 pm : link
This explains it
Link - ( New Window )
I screwed up the link  
AP in Halfmoon : 9/21/2016 11:25 pm : link
Click on this

CMPD said Keith Lamont Scott had a gun. Was that reason enough to order him to drop it?
Re: My Guess  
Photoguy : 9/21/2016 11:27 pm : link
"My guess is November 9th
bradshaw44 : 11:07 pm : link : reply
Will be the day that defines modern America. Our division is clear and present. And most definitely a danger."



That concerns me greatly.
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