He may be the most exciting young player to watch in a Giants uniform. O'Dell is the obvious answer and Shepard is the new thing in town.. but Collins has the skills to be the best safety New York has had since I can remember. (I'm 26)
Landon is built like a brick shit house, has enough hip movement and speed to cover necessary ground, most of all he seems to understand what it takes to excel at the highest level. His training with Ryan Clark in the off season will have a large impact on his performance this year. If not physically, mentally.
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He just never played enough to be able to say this. We got like two years out of him. Part of me wants to say Hill was better than Phillips. Or at least it can be argued.
His skills in coverage remain a question mark, but his strengths certainly seem valuable enough to more than make up for his shortcomings in coverage. And obviously he can get better in pass coverage.
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a great in the box safety. Won't kill you in coverage but won't be remembered for his coverage skills. Overall we should be very happy with Collins over the long haul. He's a great tackler.
His pass coverage against Dez was memorable, to me. His play against tight ends in his young career have certain highlights, one this year that I can recall. I found myself dogging his cover skills as well. The guy was thrown into a terrible defense last year as a rookie.
I didn't mean that in a bad way I just don't think his greatest strength will be in coverage or attacking the ball, so to speak. HE will be fine back there but his greatest strength will be flowing downhill on D and cleaning up. He's gonna own the middle and make a lot of big plays while preventing big plays from occurring.
Jerry Reese is trying to keep that job
Will Hill in those 10 or so games played at a level easily higher than KP ever played at imo. Easy to shit on him for being a complete moron but he was a beast for us that year.
He had an ill-defined role in 2015 because the Ss he was paired with were short on talent as well as experience, and he was asked to play a role he is, still, relatively ill-suited for as a coverage or free S. Now that the position is sewed up by DT (we hope he stays healthy), it frees him to concentrate on his more limited coverage duties and playing the run, which he does very, very well. That and being his 2nd year, it's coming together nicely.
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This year there is none that. He knows that Darian knows his assignments and responsibilities and he isn't worried about whether or not his backfield mats are going to be in the right position while simultaneously reading the play is it develops and locking down his own responsibilities. A year in the system, being surrounded by guys he trusts, and being able to just focus on his own responsibilities without those added concerns is making all the difference in the world.
He had range, recognition skills and decisiveness to make a play on on the ball anywhere on the field. He rarely took a false step and you'd be hard pressed to find many plays where we were beat deep and the CBs were shrugging their shoulders or throwing their hands up in the air because they thought they had help over the top - which happened with regularity after KP went down. And while not big, he had enough size and athleticism (prior to getting hurt) to play the better TEs.
This is why he was trusted to be the deep man. He could erase mistakes. He could also lay some wood and dislodge the ball at times and was always a sure tackler. This allowed us to play more men in the box without fear of the opposing WR or TE beating us down the seam.
Losing KP was a huge loss. He was truly unheralded by fans who didn't quite understand his role.
In what way? It's not like the Giants have a plethora of great safeties to compare him to. Linebacker and DE is another story.
Landon is already a terrific player with potential upside to be a perennial pro bowler. His statics through the first 2 weeks predict that and he will only get better in this much improved defense.
He made a lot of stops and put a lot of hits on RBs. Those plays are easier for a casual fan to appreciate than KP's non-plays. If you follow.
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Not a coma.
My fingers are crossed that you continue to miss the comas.
He made a lot of stops and put a lot of hits on RBs. Those plays are easier for a casual fan to appreciate than KP's non-plays. If you follow.
Non-plays for dbs is a great point. Hard to tell unless a coach gives praise
He made a lot of stops and put a lot of hits on RBs. Those plays are easier for a casual fan to appreciate than KP's non-plays. If you follow.
Non-plays for dbs is a great point. Hard to tell unless a coach gives praise
He doesn't have any ball skills? None at all?
He may not be your classic ballhawk, and pass coverage may not be his strongest suit, but to say he has no ball skills is patently ridiculous.
Linked below is an article written by Chase Goodbread at NFL.com prior to the 2015 draft, accompanied by a video featuring Bucky Brooks giving his assessment of Collins.
2015 NFL Draft: Top five ball-hawking DB prospects. - ( New Window )
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He doesn't. As it is he's a great tackler that brings the pain and covers ground at a fair pace.
He doesn't have any ball skills? None at all?
He may not be your classic ballhawk, and pass coverage may not be his strongest suit, but to say he has no ball skills is patently ridiculous.
Linked below is an article written by Chase Goodbread at NFL.com prior to the 2015 draft, accompanied by a video featuring Bucky Brooks giving his assessment of Collins. 2015 NFL Draft: Top five ball-hawking DB prospects. - ( New Window )
He made that interception crucial drop last year, I forget against who, but it was a game that the giants let a lot of chances slip through their fingers.
I don't think one play is proof of anything, but I think that is fresh in the minds of people who don't think he has good ball skills.
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He doesn't. As it is he's a great tackler that brings the pain and covers ground at a fair pace.
He doesn't have any ball skills? None at all?
He may not be your classic ballhawk, and pass coverage may not be his strongest suit, but to say he has no ball skills is patently ridiculous.
Linked below is an article written by Chase Goodbread at NFL.com prior to the 2015 draft, accompanied by a video featuring Bucky Brooks giving his assessment of Collins. 2015 NFL Draft: Top five ball-hawking DB prospects. - ( New Window )
He made that interception crucial drop last year, I forget against who, but it was a game that the giants let a lot of chances slip through their fingers.
I don't think one play is proof of anything, but I think that is fresh in the minds of people who don't think he has good ball skills.
Against the Patriots. It could have changed the entire season if they get that win against them.
He being in position to make an interception nullifies his coverage skills complaint. Ball skills is a small sacrifice given his tangibles. He will improve overtime
His skills in coverage remain a question mark, but his strengths certainly seem valuable enough to more than make up for his shortcomings in coverage. And obviously he can get better in pass coverage.
Nail-on-the-head