why doesn’t a fumble by a team’s special teams unit count against that def/st? i’m playing against the texans defense/special teams this week, so that would have been a help there.
conservative on offense if they tried. 3rd and 8 run was terrible. You have a top WR and a great rookie WR and supposedly like your QB, yet you force the run to the tune of barely over 2 yards per carry. Jesus, open it up a little.
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why doesn’t a fumble by a team’s special teams unit count against that def/st? i’m playing against the texans defense/special teams this week, so that would have been a help there.
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Can't be fucking serious. The plays have been there. He didnt throw it directly to Jamie Collins. He didnt fumble it on the kickoff. The offense is not yet in rhythm. Neither is the Giants'. There is nothing BO has done to "deserve" being down 10-0.
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Can't be fucking serious. The plays have been there. He didnt throw it directly to Jamie Collins. He didnt fumble it on the kickoff. The offense is not yet in rhythm. Neither is the Giants'. There is nothing BO has done to "deserve" being down 10-0.
Pffft. You either have your team prepared, buttoned up and ready or you're a sloppy fucking mess on the road.
They're a sloppy fucking mess.
If Brady or even Garoppalo were here it would be a lot worse. Gimme a fuckin break.
Doesn't want to throw it 50 times, but they need to open up the playbook a little bit on first down. Stay ahead of the sticks and loosen things up for the running game a little bit.
Can't be fucking serious. The plays have been there. He didnt throw it directly to Jamie Collins. He didnt fumble it on the kickoff. The offense is not yet in rhythm. Neither is the Giants'. There is nothing BO has done to "deserve" being down 10-0.
Pffft. You either have your team prepared, buttoned up and ready or you're a sloppy fucking mess on the road.
They're a sloppy fucking mess.
If Brady or even Garoppalo were here it would be a lot worse. Gimme a fuckin break.
Blow through your teeth all you want B. Texans are an offense in developing stage, with a young promising qb and playing against a pretty damn good D.
How bout we just call it what it is? The Pats are stillthe Pats. They have lost 2 fucking games at home in like 4 years.
terrible coaching decisions, questionable play calls, PI in the end zone and getting worked by a third string rookie QB is all of a sudden not a sloppy fucking mess. Huh.
terrible coaching decisions, questionable play calls, PI in the end zone and getting worked by a third string rookie QB is all of a sudden not a sloppy fucking mess. Huh.
I would have thought that's EXACTLY what it is.
No, most of that is on the players.
What was the terrible coaching decision? What was the terrible play calling you are referring to that is costing them this game? James fumbled the KO return giving the pats a short field that led to a TD. Obrien replaced James as returner and then HE fumbled.
I can only think of a running play on 3rd and 2 that they didnt get and that would be REALLY pushing it.
You're really going to blame the coach for two PIs in the end zone and two fumbles? I would call that silly, but find it hilarious instead.
terrible coaching decisions, questionable play calls, PI in the end zone and getting worked by a third string rookie QB is all of a sudden not a sloppy fucking mess. Huh.
I would have thought that's EXACTLY what it is.
No, most of that is on the players.
What was the terrible coaching decision? What was the terrible play calling you are referring to that is costing them this game? James fumbled the KO return giving the pats a short field that led to a TD. Obrien replaced James as returner and then HE fumbled.
I can only think of a running play on 3rd and 2 that they didnt get and that would be REALLY pushing it.
You're really going to blame the coach for two PIs in the end zone and two fumbles? I would call that silly, but find it hilarious instead.
The players suck.
And so does the coach. They were not prepared to play tonight. They had four days - just like the Pats - and so far have failed miserably.
terrible coaching decisions, questionable play calls, PI in the end zone and getting worked by a third string rookie QB is all of a sudden not a sloppy fucking mess. Huh.
I would have thought that's EXACTLY what it is.
No, most of that is on the players.
What was the terrible coaching decision? What was the terrible play calling you are referring to that is costing them this game? James fumbled the KO return giving the pats a short field that led to a TD. Obrien replaced James as returner and then HE fumbled.
I can only think of a running play on 3rd and 2 that they didnt get and that would be REALLY pushing it.
You're really going to blame the coach for two PIs in the end zone and two fumbles? I would call that silly, but find it hilarious instead.
The players suck.
And so does the coach. They were not prepared to play tonight. They had four days - just like the Pats - and so far have failed miserably.
It's ok chop.
I appreciate your concern, but Bill O'Brien did not coach himself out of a win tonight.
Miss those Thursday night games. Let us map out our Friday night and Saturday afternoon schedules at opposing fields with our jerseys on. Crazy that my son is doing that stuff now. Goes by too fast.
Lol. Youre still trying to make that point of yours huh? Totally on the coach because a player loses his head when his qb cant get him the ball and theyre down by 20 points getting shut out.
Whatever. I have never had a problem with you, and don't now. I just think your criticism of OBrien tonight is awfully simplistic.
Lol. Youre still trying to make that point of yours huh? Totally on the coach because a player loses his head when his qb cant get him the ball and theyre down by 20 points getting shut out.
Whatever. I have never had a problem with you, and don't now. I just think your criticism of OBrien tonight is awfully simplistic.
simplistic? His team was completely embarrassed, exposed and humiliated. You bet your sweet ass a good amount is on the coach.
Chop - have you ever played football or coached the game?
I ask, because there is no doubt a guy like BO is going to have nightmares about this game. He will regret virtually everything he did this week. And he will probably talk about "rock bottom" and try to use the Pats as where they need to be.
Tonight was an embarrassment. This wasn't even passable as a legit first team against a third string QB and defense with definite questions.
The Texans have more than enough talent on offense to be productive and they look like the Cleveland Browns.
Hoyer did more with less talent last year at a fraction of the cost. I think the Texans made a big mistake investing in this guy.
Elway knew this guy well. Offered him a great deal and he walked. And now w Lynch as a back up and Simeon they look solid at least and saved themselves a shit load of cash.
do this to Osweiler and the Texans offense when the Browns and Bears looked completely befuddled over stopping Carson "One Read" Wentz.
The Steelers better skullfuck them on Sunday.
Pats are coached but one of the best in the history of the NFL. Browns are a disaster and to be honest I think Fox is done as much as I like him. Then again he's stuck w Cutler.
And keep his head screwed on straight. Not a time for "rock bottom" talk or over-dramatizing it.
2-1, lost a non-division game on the road. Turned it over several times but were still well in the game in the third quarter. Not trying to sugar coat a turd, it was awful. But they'd have signed off on 2-1 after week 3 going into the season.
are the ones who blasted coughlin all year last year despite having late leads in nearly all of their games and being a dropped ball away from beating the pats with Unga and a bunch of other players that didn't belong anywhere on an nfl field.
are the ones who blasted coughlin all year last year despite having late leads in nearly all of their games and being a dropped ball away from beating the pats with Unga and a bunch of other players that didn't belong anywhere on an nfl field.
Im not defending OBrien past the Pats TD after the second fumble off of a kickoff. I thought the Texans showed a lot of quit from the coaching staff following that. I was defending O'Brien when they were sti in the game and the players were fucking up. Thats not me equivocating, thats the truth. I honestly saw nothing wrong with OBrien's coaching nor his staff till midway thru the 3rd.
However, whenever a team quits...whenever you are running the ball on 3rd and 20 down 20 on your own 5 or so...,whenever you fair catch inside the 5...whenever THAT shit happens, thats coaching. If those same players are playing specials at the same positions next week, I would question that.
But for years Tom Quinn has been in charge of the Giants specials when they were abysmal. Nobody questioned TC's in game coaching. They questioned whether Quinn should have a job at the end of the year. For years, TC wasnt questioned for Gilbride's play calls in game...he was only questiined about keeping him as OC.
Im just saying, the game was lost before I put anything on that staff. I think the players let the staff down.
Can't say I'm surprised. I only recall the Giants and Cardinals winning in Foxboro in recent memory, and both of those were close games. The Pats just don't lose at home, especially to AFC teams. It's uncanny.
Can't say I'm surprised. I only recall the Giants and Cardinals winning in Foxboro in recent memory, and both of those were close games. The Pats just don't lose at home, especially to AFC teams. It's uncanny.
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Can't say I'm surprised. I only recall the Giants and Cardinals winning in Foxboro in recent memory, and both of those were close games. The Pats just don't lose at home, especially to AFC teams. It's uncanny.
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Haha, I had forgotten about that game. That was a fun one.
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why doesn’t a fumble by a team’s special teams unit count against that def/st? i’m playing against the texans defense/special teams this week, so that would have been a help there.
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You determined that after 15 minutes?
Every year it becomes more apparent that Belichick truly is the alpha and omega of the Patriots success.
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Despite his NE ties doesn't seem to have his team prepared here at all. Pathetic showing by the Oilers so far.
Every year it becomes more apparent that Belichick truly is the alpha and omega of the Patriots success.
And sadly, he is not age-limited like his players are. Can't wait for him to retire and the Pats to go back to the basement.
Lol, WHUT?!
He ran for one in London
Lol. Sure they do. They stink and O'Brien stinks.
I agree with this x 1000. Pretty much every Thursday game mimics the first week of pre-season.
Pffft. You either have your team prepared, buttoned up and ready or you're a sloppy fucking mess on the road.
They're a sloppy fucking mess.
If Brady or even Garoppalo were here it would be a lot worse. Gimme a fuckin break.
Borderline high school?
Next you're going to tell us Victor Cruz sucks ass.
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Can't be fucking serious. The plays have been there. He didnt throw it directly to Jamie Collins. He didnt fumble it on the kickoff. The offense is not yet in rhythm. Neither is the Giants'. There is nothing BO has done to "deserve" being down 10-0.
Pffft. You either have your team prepared, buttoned up and ready or you're a sloppy fucking mess on the road.
They're a sloppy fucking mess.
If Brady or even Garoppalo were here it would be a lot worse. Gimme a fuckin break.
Blow through your teeth all you want B. Texans are an offense in developing stage, with a young promising qb and playing against a pretty damn good D.
How bout we just call it what it is? The Pats are stillthe Pats. They have lost 2 fucking games at home in like 4 years.
But yea, "Obrien SUX! Unprepared! Stinky, slop, fuck mess tit BALLZZZZZZZ!"
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You're right. I was yoo lazy to include stunning and well organized insight such as:
"You're either prepared, or a sloppy fucking mess on the road."
I would have thought that's EXACTLY what it is.
Not a sloppy fucking mess at all!
I would have thought that's EXACTLY what it is.
No, most of that is on the players.
What was the terrible coaching decision? What was the terrible play calling you are referring to that is costing them this game? James fumbled the KO return giving the pats a short field that led to a TD. Obrien replaced James as returner and then HE fumbled.
I can only think of a running play on 3rd and 2 that they didnt get and that would be REALLY pushing it.
You're really going to blame the coach for two PIs in the end zone and two fumbles? I would call that silly, but find it hilarious instead.
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terrible coaching decisions, questionable play calls, PI in the end zone and getting worked by a third string rookie QB is all of a sudden not a sloppy fucking mess. Huh.
I would have thought that's EXACTLY what it is.
No, most of that is on the players.
What was the terrible coaching decision? What was the terrible play calling you are referring to that is costing them this game? James fumbled the KO return giving the pats a short field that led to a TD. Obrien replaced James as returner and then HE fumbled.
I can only think of a running play on 3rd and 2 that they didnt get and that would be REALLY pushing it.
You're really going to blame the coach for two PIs in the end zone and two fumbles? I would call that silly, but find it hilarious instead.
The players suck.
And so does the coach. They were not prepared to play tonight. They had four days - just like the Pats - and so far have failed miserably.
It's ok chop.
I think the Patriots would win comfortably with Audra Lindley at quarterback!
Agree. Chop - you're still my boy. I enjoy your posts bud.
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terrible coaching decisions, questionable play calls, PI in the end zone and getting worked by a third string rookie QB is all of a sudden not a sloppy fucking mess. Huh.
I would have thought that's EXACTLY what it is.
No, most of that is on the players.
What was the terrible coaching decision? What was the terrible play calling you are referring to that is costing them this game? James fumbled the KO return giving the pats a short field that led to a TD. Obrien replaced James as returner and then HE fumbled.
I can only think of a running play on 3rd and 2 that they didnt get and that would be REALLY pushing it.
You're really going to blame the coach for two PIs in the end zone and two fumbles? I would call that silly, but find it hilarious instead.
The players suck.
And so does the coach. They were not prepared to play tonight. They had four days - just like the Pats - and so far have failed miserably.
It's ok chop.
I appreciate your concern, but Bill O'Brien did not coach himself out of a win tonight.
But keep being you.
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they play these Thursday games, outside the first week of the season. The quality of play is borderline high school.
Borderline high school?
Next you're going to tell us Victor Cruz sucks ass.
I announced a high school game tonight. It looked like the Texans.
The Texans have more than enough talent on offense to be productive and they look like the Cleveland Browns.
Hoyer did more with less talent last year at a fraction of the cost. I think the Texans made a big mistake investing in this guy.
Lol. Youre still trying to make that point of yours huh? Totally on the coach because a player loses his head when his qb cant get him the ball and theyre down by 20 points getting shut out.
Whatever. I have never had a problem with you, and don't now. I just think your criticism of OBrien tonight is awfully simplistic.
Better not blame the coach though, Greg.
Not his fault at all that they're down 27-0. Coaching was there tonight.
They looked organized, aggressive, tight as three units, and disciplined.
Just a couple bad bounces and breaks and this game is easily 27-3.
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Well disciplined team here folks. Lookin good.
Lol. Youre still trying to make that point of yours huh? Totally on the coach because a player loses his head when his qb cant get him the ball and theyre down by 20 points getting shut out.
Whatever. I have never had a problem with you, and don't now. I just think your criticism of OBrien tonight is awfully simplistic.
simplistic? His team was completely embarrassed, exposed and humiliated. You bet your sweet ass a good amount is on the coach.
Chop - have you ever played football or coached the game?
I ask, because there is no doubt a guy like BO is going to have nightmares about this game. He will regret virtually everything he did this week. And he will probably talk about "rock bottom" and try to use the Pats as where they need to be.
Tonight was an embarrassment. This wasn't even passable as a legit first team against a third string QB and defense with definite questions.
The Steelers better skullfuck them on Sunday.
The Texans have more than enough talent on offense to be productive and they look like the Cleveland Browns.
Hoyer did more with less talent last year at a fraction of the cost. I think the Texans made a big mistake investing in this guy.
Elway knew this guy well. Offered him a great deal and he walked. And now w Lynch as a back up and Simeon they look solid at least and saved themselves a shit load of cash.
The Steelers better skullfuck them on Sunday.
Pats are coached but one of the best in the history of the NFL. Browns are a disaster and to be honest I think Fox is done as much as I like him. Then again he's stuck w Cutler.
2-1, lost a non-division game on the road. Turned it over several times but were still well in the game in the third quarter. Not trying to sugar coat a turd, it was awful. But they'd have signed off on 2-1 after week 3 going into the season.
The Steelers better skullfuck them on Sunday.
For personal reasons, i hope philly skullfucks pittsburgh...and that says a lot because i hate philly as well
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do this to Osweiler and the Texans offense when the Browns and Bears looked completely befuddled over stopping Carson "One Read" Wentz.
The Steelers better skullfuck them on Sunday.
For personal reasons, i hope philly skullfucks pittsburgh...and that says a lot because i hate philly as well
SMH... douche
How dare you, 2012! Obrien has nothing to do with this debacle.
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Houston is just stupid. Terribly coached team. Just pathetic
How dare you, 2012! Obrien has nothing to do with this debacle.
You're being a child.
Im not defending OBrien past the Pats TD after the second fumble off of a kickoff. I thought the Texans showed a lot of quit from the coaching staff following that. I was defending O'Brien when they were sti in the game and the players were fucking up. Thats not me equivocating, thats the truth. I honestly saw nothing wrong with OBrien's coaching nor his staff till midway thru the 3rd.
However, whenever a team quits...whenever you are running the ball on 3rd and 20 down 20 on your own 5 or so...,whenever you fair catch inside the 5...whenever THAT shit happens, thats coaching. If those same players are playing specials at the same positions next week, I would question that.
But for years Tom Quinn has been in charge of the Giants specials when they were abysmal. Nobody questioned TC's in game coaching. They questioned whether Quinn should have a job at the end of the year. For years, TC wasnt questioned for Gilbride's play calls in game...he was only questiined about keeping him as OC.
Im just saying, the game was lost before I put anything on that staff. I think the players let the staff down.
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There's a more recent game than those two....and it was great football.
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Can't say I'm surprised. I only recall the Giants and Cardinals winning in Foxboro in recent memory, and both of those were close games. The Pats just don't lose at home, especially to AFC teams. It's uncanny.
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Haha, I had forgotten about that game. That was a fun one.