I have been saying for awhile that I thought Bill was top 3-4 in the history of the NFL but this season has solidified his place as the greatest of all time for me.
Yes we are only 3 weeks in but you have to say by looking at this roster no other coach has them at 3-0. Look at his coaching tree (or lack thereof). Only true successes are front office people who seem to be using a base line philosophy that Bill taught them when they where just starting out.
Every coach that has left him has not don jack crap, so to me not only can he win with any player but on top of that he can win with any coaching staff. This in my eyes makes him the greatest NFL head coach of all times.
Thoughts? Arguments?
Now to fantasies about what would of happened if BB had succeeded Parcells (no one knows but sure is fun to speculate)
Some will say 'Well he's had Brady', but it's pretty apparent he's the top dog there & the man has now gone 14-5 in 19 games with Matt Cassel, Jimmy G, & Brissett.
That aside, it's hard to argue with his success. People of course will bring up the cheating aspect, but even in that kind of adversity he always wins.
Unless it's Eli....in the Super Bowl :)
In 'is it belicheck or Brady ' I always said it's belicheck.
What do you think Jets fans wonder about what could have been if BB succeeded Parcells and not gone to their division rival? He was in the position and left. Ouch,
Well, I would say this...
Lombardi was the motivator but Bill gets my vote as a game strategist.
It is really hard to compare a man who is alive and on TV to a guy who died before you were born.
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Nevermind Cleveland, they were on the rise until that move was announced.
GOAT, no doubt in my mind. Had he beat the Giants in those two Super Bowls, his status might rank as the Greatest coach in the history of sport let alone football.
All of the great coaches of the past operated in an era before free agency when dynastic building blocks could be kept together for 5-10 years.
Not today.
I'll put BB's record against anyone else's... any day of the week.
The guy the Giants failed to keep is the greatest coach in the history of the NFL.
But that's an old story for the Giants: Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry.
BB is just Giants' history repeating itself.
They focus on what they need to focus on and they tune out the noise from the media and anyone else.
His use of players and the draft is a thing to behold and his emphasis on "do your job" is a mantra that each of his players follows. I think he also has a culture of no excuses...no matter what has transpired. They are always in contention for the Super Bowl...every year and in the free agency era that is remarkable.
Saying he is a great coach is an understatement. He is a man dealing with boys in that sense in the NFL.
Nevermind Cleveland, they were on the rise until that move was announced.
GOAT, no doubt in my mind. Had he beat the Giants in those two Super Bowls, his status might rank as the Greatest coach in the history of sport let alone football.
Exactly
I don't think he's diminished unless they win the SB without him, and using the same offense.
Ya, lets hope for less ugly ( less turnovers and mistakes on offense ) this week.
I don't think he's diminished unless they win the SB without him, and using the same offense.
And hope he doesn't have to face us..😜
somehow he coaches these guys to play quality NFL football when our starting OL can't budge anyone and has no rhythm
on D, he is the master of finding guys to do specific jobs and understanding who is going to play well together. its not easy to quantify who is going to give you chemistry and sometimes it's not the player everyone else likes, or knows
Those two Superbowl wins continue to become greater as they age!!!!
Those two Superbowl wins continue to become greater as they age!!!!
Was just going to write the same thing! That Eli beat this coach and QB not once but twice in the SB is freaking amazing. That alone should put Eli in the hall of fame if nothing else. It is a remarkable feat that he did twice.
Then he leveraged Bill Walsh's knowledge and experience as well as anyone in the Walsh tree did, maybe more.
Networks with college heavyweights....Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Chip Kelly.
Would love to talk football with the guy.
My question is how much involvement does he have personally with offense and defensive game planning these days?
I'm guessing he comes up with ideas to tweak each week to McDaniels and Patricia, and they work it out and present it to him for approval (and then handle all the in game stuff).
You should have. Easy money. Forget brisset. That defense alone is good enough to stop most offenses
QB.. He won without the greatest TE ever and who by the way it's the only legitly talented player on the offense.. and he beat 2 playoff caliber teams one of which is SB caliber team...
Now I believe In my years of watching football he is the best coach ever... Lombardi may the only one in his level...
QB.. He won without the greatest TE ever and who by the way it's the only legitly talented player on the offense.. and he beat 2 playoff caliber teams one of which is SB caliber team...
Now I believe In my years of watching football he is the best coach ever... Lombardi may the only one in his level...
Never understood the Lombardi hype.
Naturally a great coach, but the GOAT thing eludes me with him.
It just seems like those Packers' teams had the best players and he made sure they executed well. Leader of men as well, of course.
But innovative like Walsh or Belichick, I don't see it.
Of course that was before my time, so I could probably use a good education....
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In my early does of positing here are BBI I argued that while Bill was best right now, he wasn't much better than TC or other great coaches at the time... after the first 3 games this year, I've completely changed my mind.. not only did he win with backup quality player
QB.. He won without the greatest TE ever and who by the way it's the only legitly talented player on the offense.. and he beat 2 playoff caliber teams one of which is SB caliber team...
Now I believe In my years of watching football he is the best coach ever... Lombardi may the only one in his level...
Never understood the Lombardi hype.
Naturally a great coach, but the GOAT thing eludes me with him.
It just seems like those Packers' teams had the best players and he made sure they executed well. Leader of men as well, of course.
But innovative like Walsh or Belichick, I don't see it.
Of course that was before my time, so I could probably use a good education....
I started watching football way after Lombardi but he won 5 championship in 7 years... and his team never won after he left...
I don't wanna judge coaches before my time but looking at BB it seems he would be better than anyone else ever.. it also seems like BB isn't a one time innovator... which I think is what Walsh was..
Haven't some of you realized that Belichick's assistants are about as useful as refried pigshit without him? Not a single one of them has been anything near successful as a head coach, and meanwhile as they cycle in and out of Boston the Patriots machine just keeps rolling along.
It's all about Belichick. Always has been, always will be.
Haven't some of you realized that Belichick's assistants are about as useful as refried pigshit without him? Not a single one of them has been anything near successful as a head coach, and meanwhile as they cycle in and out of Boston the Patriots machine just keeps rolling along.
It's all about Belichick. Always has been, always will be.
Yep
Running on third and eight early in the 1st quarter from almost midfield? Is that the way you win?
And the Pats cashed in on two turnovers on KO returns, turning them into TD's.
The Texans HC leaves a lot to be desired IMO. I hate when teams go at the Pats tentatively.
You have to attack them...much like the Giants usually do.
Never understood the Lombardi hype.
Naturally a great coach, but the GOAT thing eludes me with him.
It just seems like those Packers' teams had the best players and he made sure they executed well. Leader of men as well, of course.
But innovative like Walsh or Belichick, I don't see it.
Of course that was before my time, so I could probably use a good education....
I agree completely. Football is a thinking men's sport -- Gibbs, Walsh, Paul Brown, etc, but I can't associate thinking with Lombardi too much -- what notable and new inventions/strategies/methodologies did he leave behind?
We're blessed to be Giants fans because BB helped us win two SBs when he was here and of course we are the only team to beat him twice in the SB.
Imagine how hard it must be to be a Jets fan? Greatest coach in the history of football is your HC/NYJ for a flash and then goes to coach your division rival. Man, sucks to be fireman Eds crew of green losers.