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spike : 9/23/2016 4:13 pm
starting lineup

reyes
Cabrera
Cespedes
Granderson
johnson
Conforto
Duda
TDA
Ynoa

- According to Adam Rubin, Noah Syndergaard has been scratched from Saturday's start. Has strep throat. Sean Gilmartin will start. (You can't make this shit up. )

- Terry Collins said the hope is that Noah Syndergaard can be slotted back into the rotation Monday or Tuesday -- not miss a full turn. Of course, that disrupts Syndergaard being lined up for the Oct. 5 wild-card game. Collins noted that the Mets need to qualify for the postseason first. "Right now, in our situation, we can't worry about Oct. 5," Collins said. Collins added that if the Mets are fortunate to clinch before the final series in Philadelphia, Syndergaard or Bartolo Colon can be held back for the wild-card game.

Can a strep throat  
SJGiant : 9/23/2016 4:16 pm : link
Lead to a shoulder injury or an elbow injury. Based upon mets season, that is what I am expecting. I can only count on our MVP, Bartolo "Iron Man" Colon.
Sage Rosenfels  
pjcas18 : 9/23/2016 4:17 pm : link
was IR'd with strep throat a few years ago with the Giants and sometimes I feel like the Giants and Mets share doctors, so who knows where this leads.
It will probably lead to  
NewFakeDannyHeep : 9/23/2016 4:19 pm : link
Brain eating amoebas. RIP Thor.
Please give the entire  
Metnut : 9/23/2016 4:32 pm : link
team antibiotics so this doesn't spread and start taking the whole squad out.
Bullpen is spent from the last two days  
speedywheels : 9/23/2016 4:36 pm : link
And don't figure to get much rest today or tomorrow, between Ynoa and Gilmartin.

And G-d forbid they have a 12-1 blowout and let guys like Verrett pitch stress-free

I like that lineup  
Vanzetti : 9/23/2016 4:40 pm : link
makes a big difference with Big Lucas looming in the 7th spot
RE: Bullpen is spent from the last two days  
Vanzetti : 9/23/2016 4:43 pm : link
In comment 13137995 speedywheels said:
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And don't figure to get much rest today or tomorrow, between Ynoa and Gilmartin.

And G-d forbid they have a 12-1 blowout and let guys like Verrett pitch stress-free



Terry has to stop using guys for one out in the 6th and 7th. You burn out everyone that way.
RE: RE: Bullpen is spent from the last two days  
Jim in Fairfax : 9/23/2016 4:49 pm : link
In comment 13138006 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 13137995 speedywheels said:


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And don't figure to get much rest today or tomorrow, between Ynoa and Gilmartin.

And G-d forbid they have a 12-1 blowout and let guys like Verrett pitch stress-free





Terry has to stop using guys for one out in the 6th and 7th. You burn out everyone that way.


+1

He's like a 4 year old on Christmas Day. All these new toys to play with! Play with one for 2 minutes, toss it aside. Then another, toss it aside....
Well cards got shut out today  
bhill410 : 9/23/2016 5:42 pm : link
So a full game up with 9 to play. They win today and go up a game and a half, which would go a long ways towards mitigating the disaster that was the braves series.
Last nights comeback win  
steve in ky : 9/23/2016 7:24 pm : link
No team has ever been down multiple runs in the 9th, and multiple runs in extra innings and hit multiple run home runs to comeback and win.

Per Gary Cohen on tonight's pregame
TSA with the rare RBI  
steve in ky : 9/23/2016 7:58 pm : link
Now they need to get him in to tie it
Probably need 6+ runs  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/23/2016 8:09 pm : link
to win this game now
luck has turned for Grandy's historically bad risp stretch  
Eric on Li : 9/23/2016 9:23 pm : link
and he's looked perfectly fine in CF. Pretty sure he's played his way into being the platoon guy with Lagares in CF next year barring anything unexpected.
And now an oppo field 3 run HR for Conforto 10+ rows deep  
Eric on Li : 9/23/2016 9:26 pm : link
just need to find a first baseman and 4 starters as well conditioned as Bartolo.
Confortowned!  
jpkmets : 9/23/2016 9:27 pm : link
Welcome back Mike!
What an inning!  
Metnut : 9/23/2016 9:29 pm : link
Conforto needs to start! Welcome back!
RE: Probably need 6+ runs  
spike : 9/23/2016 9:31 pm : link
In comment 13138168 Rob in Rockaway said:
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to win this game now




You got it! Mike is back! I like that he and Nimmo are always together learning. Just don't get the strep from Syndergaard
Stadium looks full  
spike : 9/23/2016 9:33 pm : link
Tomight
Does Collins get any credit for keeping Bruce on bench and  
steve in ky : 9/23/2016 9:35 pm : link
playing Conforto?

RE: Does Collins get any credit for keeping Bruce on bench and  
PhiPsi125 : 9/23/2016 9:35 pm : link
In comment 13138230 steve in ky said:
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playing Conforto?


Seriously?
Gotta play Nimmo or Conforto  
spike : 9/23/2016 9:36 pm : link
Every day. They actually contribute.



Damn it Smoker
Well don't you think he would be  
steve in ky : 9/23/2016 9:36 pm : link
criticized if he did the opposite?
Nothing easy folks!  
timintey : 9/23/2016 9:37 pm : link
Fuckin A
Wh en they clinch the WC  
spike : 9/23/2016 9:38 pm : link
Then he can try to get Bruce going
RE: Well don't you think he would be  
PhiPsi125 : 9/23/2016 9:40 pm : link
In comment 13138233 steve in ky said:
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criticized if he did the opposite?


So Collins continued to play a horrid Bruce way too long while keeping raging hot Conforto glued to the bench until he FINALLY benches the bum and now he deserves credit because Conforto is hitting? Come on, man. We were starved for offense but he just couldn't help but keep trotting out Bruce. No, he doesn't get credit.
Stop it  
spike : 9/23/2016 9:59 pm : link
With the walks
RE: Stop it  
EJV79 : 9/23/2016 10:02 pm : link
In comment 13138246 spike said:
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With the walks


It's maddening.
Terry overmanaging again  
Vanzetti : 9/23/2016 10:04 pm : link
Just leave Goeddel in.

Now, he is going to wind up using three pitchers in the inning and most likely give up the lead anyway

Fuckin unbelievable  
spike : 9/23/2016 10:05 pm : link
These unreachable infield hits


Watch Robles walk in a run
Does a Collins not realize  
spike : 9/23/2016 10:06 pm : link
Gilmartin is going tomorrow?
Collins wearing a path in the grass out to the mound  
EJV79 : 9/23/2016 10:06 pm : link
.
RE: Does Collins get any credit for keeping Bruce on bench and  
Shecky : 9/23/2016 10:06 pm : link
In comment 13138230 steve in ky said:
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playing Conforto?


So that's been his master plan all along, huh? Definitely outsmarted everyone else then.
Please get a DP  
spike : 9/23/2016 10:07 pm : link
DP DP
big time  
jpkmets : 9/23/2016 10:08 pm : link
DP
RE: big time  
spike : 9/23/2016 10:09 pm : link
In comment 13138256 jpkmets said:
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DP


Phew. Joseph hit it hard too and was out by ten steps at first base
Yuge!!  
timintey : 9/23/2016 10:09 pm : link
!
So who is the closer tonight  
SJGiant : 9/23/2016 10:09 pm : link
First we have to be leading. I am guessing Reed.
Does Robles get the 8th  
spike : 9/23/2016 10:10 pm : link
Or Salas

I assume Blevins is going ninth
RE: Terry overmanaging again  
speedywheels : 9/23/2016 10:11 pm : link
In comment 13138249 Vanzetti said:
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Just leave Goeddel in.

Now, he is going to wind up using three pitchers in the inning and most likely give up the lead anyway


Even worse - no double switch so Robles is due up 4th

Lol...
RE: Does Robles get the 8th  
Vanzetti : 9/23/2016 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13138261 spike said:
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Or Salas

I assume Blevins is going ninth


In a surprise move, Terry is going to bring out Jay Bruce to pitch the 8th.
Braves beating the Fish again  
spike : 9/23/2016 10:12 pm : link
3-2 bot ninth
RE: RE: Terry overmanaging again  
speedywheels : 9/23/2016 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13138262 speedywheels said:
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In comment 13138249 Vanzetti said:


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Just leave Goeddel in.

Now, he is going to wind up using three pitchers in the inning and most likely give up the lead anyway




Even worse - no double switch so Robles is due up 4th

Lol...


Oops - 6th. Never mind...
Please let Bruce  
spike : 9/23/2016 10:15 pm : link
Pinch hit
Metsies need more runs  
Vanzetti : 9/23/2016 10:16 pm : link
like 5 of them
Interesting move  
spike : 9/23/2016 10:20 pm : link
To bring in Lagares just to bunt
haha  
steve in ky : 9/23/2016 10:21 pm : link
.
Haha - how far has Bruce fallen  
speedywheels : 9/23/2016 10:21 pm : link
Lag areas can't swing the bat and he's PH ahead of him...
Eric Campbell  
spike : 9/23/2016 10:22 pm : link
Is making TC look like a genius
nice knock  
jpkmets : 9/23/2016 10:22 pm : link
Soup!

Big insurance runs.
Eric Campbell  
Mike in NY : 9/23/2016 10:22 pm : link
Rips it past drawn in IF
10-5  
speedywheels : 9/23/2016 10:29 pm : link
That should be enough. Right?

Fingers crossed...
Should be enough.  
SJGiant : 9/23/2016 10:30 pm : link
Final score 10-9
RE: Should be enough.  
stillpoe : 9/23/2016 10:33 pm : link
In comment 13138278 SJGiant said:
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Final score 10-9


LOL

The Las Vegas  
spike : 9/23/2016 10:34 pm : link
Starting infield


They should sit Reyes and Cespedes too,
Every time it looks like Conforto is regaining his confidence  
Rflairr : 9/23/2016 10:35 pm : link
This clown of a manager does something to knock him right back down. I don't give a shit if Campbell got a hit there. Let Conforto hit, you dumbass.
Put  
spike : 9/23/2016 10:35 pm : link
Cecchini and Bruce out there instead
Let Robles  
spike : 9/23/2016 10:38 pm : link
Finish the game.


Save Salas and Blevins arms
Books!  
speedywheels : 9/23/2016 10:59 pm : link
Robles with the save...
Pads up 3-0 on the Giants  
spike : 9/23/2016 11:44 pm : link
bot 3
Giants up 7-2 in 5th  
speedywheels : 9/24/2016 12:41 am : link
...
Giants about to lose 7-2  
Vanzetti : 9/24/2016 1:33 am : link
Watched the last half of the game. They look dead
RE: Giants up 7-2 in 5th  
speedywheels : 9/24/2016 2:06 am : link
In comment 13138316 speedywheels said:
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...


Oops - Pads up (and won) 7-2.

Nice to have a one game lead on spot #1...
So where is everyone with regard to the Cards?  
bhill410 : 9/24/2016 9:41 am : link
This will probably bite us in the ass, like most things the Cards do, but I personally give us a 10% chance of beating Bumgartner and at least a 60% chance of beating Martinez. It is obviously no secret the Mets struggle against lefties, and even more so when they have the history and talent of Bumgartner.

The rub here, is that I also want the Mets to get in, so rooting against the Cards (especially since they are always the early game) is beneficial towards the first goal of the Mets getting in.

The real wild card here, which would be awesome, is if the Giants and Cards tie, requiring them to pitch their first options in that game and leaving us with the 2nd tier pitcher.

So what say you BBI? You rolling the dice on the mets actually being able to advance to the NLDS with your rooting interests or just making sure they get in?

San Francisco  
Mike in NY : 9/24/2016 9:53 am : link
Can go with Bumgarner and Cueto. Neither of whom the Mets have done well with in recent years. I would rather face St. Louis versus Martinez than San Francisco against their #2
Get in  
Shecky : 9/24/2016 10:09 am : link
And win
How long is Cueto out for?  
bhill410 : 9/24/2016 10:19 am : link
He pulled up lame his last start, so am not sure if he would even be available.
Cueto  
Mike in NY : 9/24/2016 10:28 am : link
Has a Grade 1 groin strain.
Wainwright  
spike : 9/24/2016 10:49 am : link
is the Cards' second option and won't be an easy match up for the Mets.

The Shark would be the Giants', if Cueto cannot go.
It'll be interesting to see how Duda's back  
spike : 9/24/2016 10:53 am : link
reacts after last night's game.

lineup prediction
Reyes SS
Conforto RF
Cespedes LF
Granderson CF
Johnson 2B
TJ Rivera 2B
Loney 1B
Rivera R C
Gilmartin

The Cubs  
spike : 9/24/2016 10:56 am : link
are 2-5 against the Mets this season. Hmm
RE: It'll be interesting to see how Duda's back  
Mike in NY : 9/24/2016 11:18 am : link
In comment 13138475 spike said:
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reacts after last night's game.

lineup prediction
Reyes SS
Conforto RF
Cespedes LF
Granderson CF
Johnson 2B
TJ Rivera 2B
Loney 1B
Rivera R C
Gilmartin


Reynolds has not gotten a start in a while so if Asdrubal Cabrera is out, I could see Reynolds getting the start at SS. I also could see Plawecki getting a start at some point.
RE: It'll be interesting to see how Duda's back  
spike : 9/24/2016 11:20 am : link
In comment 13138475 spike said:
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reacts after last night's game.

lineup prediction
Reyes SS
Conforto RF
Cespedes LF
Granderson CF
Johnson 2B
TJ Rivera 2B
Loney 1B
Rivera R C
Gilmartin


typo.. Kelly J would play 3B.

Anyway, Cubs-Cardinals game 2 will be on Fox at 1 pm Today if anyone is interested
I know, playoff race etc. but I'd like to see Cecchini get a start  
Eric on Li : 9/24/2016 12:17 pm : link
Duda being able to play back to back would be a good sign too.
RE: The Cubs  
steve in ky : 9/24/2016 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13138478 spike said:
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are 2-5 against the Mets this season. Hmm


Gary Cohen brought up the question would the Cubs take it easy on the Cards for that very reason.

But apparently not last not.
Disappointment from losing both Harvey + JdG is only now sinking in  
Eric on Li : 9/24/2016 12:31 pm : link
just 1 of them with Syndergaard would be enough to have a really good chance in the postseason. Matz/Wheeler to a lesser degree. Too bad we couldn't have held onto Fulmer last year. Imagine that.
RE: RE: The Cubs  
Mike in NY : 9/24/2016 12:34 pm : link
In comment 13138551 steve in ky said:
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In comment 13138478 spike said:


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are 2-5 against the Mets this season. Hmm



Gary Cohen brought up the question would the Cubs take it easy on the Cards for that very reason.

But apparently not last not.


Cubs were perfect in the regular season against Mets last year. Cubs may limit pitch counts, but you want your starters in rhythm for the playoffs.
RE: Disappointment from losing both Harvey + JdG is only now sinking in  
spike : 9/24/2016 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13138555 Eric on Li said:
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just 1 of them with Syndergaard would be enough to have a really good chance in the postseason. Matz/Wheeler to a lesser degree. Too bad we couldn't have held onto Fulmer last year. Imagine that.


No Cespedes means no playoffs, even with Fulmer.

He wouldve been DLed now by as a Met
If they make it  
bhill410 : 9/24/2016 5:53 pm : link
Team is almost like the 06 team where you really didn't have any healthy starters outside of glavine and I guess Maine.
Let's make it first  
Shecky : 9/24/2016 6:22 pm : link
Finishing a game short and the only focus all off season will be on all the what ifs and missed opportunities.

Make it and cross your fingers and hope for the best. Then the offseason is focused on the failure, but the 'what could have been' if the team would have just stayed healthier.
I think I just saw a headline that  
bhill410 : 9/24/2016 6:53 pm : link
Marlins will move Fernandez to Monday to pitch against the mets. Soooo I'll chalk that one up to a loss.
RE: I think I just saw a headline that  
steve in ky : 9/24/2016 7:07 pm : link
In comment 13138850 bhill410 said:
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Marlins will move Fernandez to Monday to pitch against the mets. Soooo I'll chalk that one up to a loss.


Maybe not if Noah goes then
damn gilmartin  
bhill410 : 9/24/2016 7:18 pm : link
Who even gets strep throat in September.
What a start  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/24/2016 7:18 pm : link
.
Got to get him out of there. He doesn't have it tonight  
steve in ky : 9/24/2016 7:20 pm : link
.
Phils stocked up on Righties in this lineup  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/24/2016 7:29 pm : link
maybe Montero can settle in and give us a chance.
Should have taken him out sooner  
steve in ky : 9/24/2016 7:31 pm : link
three down sucks but much easier to come back from. Can't give away wins at this point in the season
Montero time  
spike : 9/24/2016 7:32 pm : link
Seriously they shouldve just moved up Colon
Maybe its the nerves  
spike : 9/24/2016 7:33 pm : link
But unacceptable to give up a hit to the opposing pitcher
I'll get this out if the way earky  
Shecky : 9/24/2016 7:35 pm : link
"At least he gets his guy's to play hard for him"
Easy shecky sethfromastoria may come to your place  
bhill410 : 9/24/2016 7:42 pm : link
And crap on your door step with lines like that
Lol good point bhill  
Shecky : 9/24/2016 7:53 pm : link
I'm just glad I got that line out of the way before this inning. Might have been a harder sell now...
Good day to sit  
spike : 9/24/2016 7:56 pm : link
Cespedes Cab and Reyes after 5 innings
Not sure why Tc just go to Montero  
spike : 9/24/2016 8:26 pm : link
As the emergency starter in the first place
7-0  
spike : 9/24/2016 8:30 pm : link
Time to pull everyone and get them ready for the 1pm start tomorrow
Montero needs to take one for the team  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/24/2016 8:31 pm : link
and stay in this game. Fuck blowing out the bullpen. Make him go 6 no matter the score. Gilmartin got off easy too. F him.
Oh well it's just one of those nights  
steve in ky : 9/24/2016 8:32 pm : link
it happens
RE: Montero needs to take one for the team  
spike : 9/24/2016 8:34 pm : link
In comment 13138945 Rob in Rockaway said:
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and stay in this game. Fuck blowing out the bullpen. Make him go 6 no matter the score. Gilmartin got off easy too. F him.


Let Montero go 100 pitches.. Hes stretched out enough.

Take everyone out. Put the kids and Jay Bruce in there
Montero has 7ks in 3 innings  
spike : 9/24/2016 8:35 pm : link
But gave up 5 ERa
Marlins are pushing  
spike : 9/24/2016 8:36 pm : link
Jose Fernandez back to Monday just to fuck with us.


Tomorrow is a must win. Get some sleep Gsellman
So if he kept the lineup in  
bhill410 : 9/24/2016 9:42 pm : link
Would we actually have a shot here?
RE: So if he kept the lineup in  
spike : 9/24/2016 9:43 pm : link
In comment 13139008 bhill410 said:
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Would we actually have a shot here?


Nope. We have to get them fresh for tomorrow and next week.
Jay Bruce  
spike : 9/24/2016 9:59 pm : link
sure is buried deep on that bench
RE: Jay Bruce  
Shecky : 9/24/2016 10:02 pm : link
In comment 13139021 spike said:
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sure is buried deep on that bench


Saving him for the epic walk off!!
d'arnaud just had one of his best ABs of the season  
Eric on Li : 9/24/2016 10:21 pm : link
Cecchini up with 2 on.
If they pull this out they would have to feel like a team of destiny  
steve in ky : 9/24/2016 10:22 pm : link
.
Cecchini just misses 3 run HR  
Eric on Li : 9/24/2016 10:24 pm : link
double off the wall and looking really good at the plate. Might need to give him a look over the next week (2B maybe?).
This is fun!  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/24/2016 10:24 pm : link
.
Regardless of how this ends  
Stufftherun : 9/24/2016 10:26 pm : link
it's been a lot of fun watching the kids.
Needed a hit there really bad  
Rob in Rockaway : 9/24/2016 10:31 pm : link
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For tomorrow's game  
Shecky : 9/24/2016 10:38 pm : link
Do you reward all the kids with a start? Reward the effort and production? Or is Bruce starting instead?
Cecchinis bat is legit  
spike : 9/24/2016 10:44 pm : link
I hope Terry uses him more often in the future
RE: RE: Jay Bruce  
spike : 9/24/2016 10:44 pm : link
In comment 13139023 Shecky said:
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In comment 13139021 spike said:


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sure is buried deep on that bench



Saving him for the epic walk off!!
u know he will get a chance as the tying run at the plate in the ninth
RE: For tomorrow's game  
spike : 9/24/2016 10:45 pm : link
In comment 13139044 Shecky said:
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Do you reward all the kids with a start? Reward the effort and production? Or is Bruce starting instead?


Gotta play your best lineup
Shouldve had Bruce  
spike : 9/24/2016 10:46 pm : link
PH for Nimmo
LOVE  
CMicks3110 : 9/24/2016 10:52 pm : link
seeeing Matz and deGrom at the top of the dugout watching this. Where is Harvey? In his TJ off year he was always around, now he is out of sight and out of mind?
RE: RE: For tomorrow's game  
Shecky : 9/24/2016 10:54 pm : link
In comment 13139052 spike said:
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In comment 13139044 Shecky said:


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Do you reward all the kids with a start? Reward the effort and production? Or is Bruce starting instead?



Gotta play your best lineup


So thekids it is
Positive game  
spike : 9/24/2016 11:00 pm : link
For the Mets. Team building experience

We witnessed a rare phenomenon  
spike : 9/24/2016 11:01 pm : link
A positive Jay Bruce contribution
I wonder if they've considered playing Bruce at 1st if Duda  
Eric on Li : 9/24/2016 11:02 pm : link
struggles. Need to get best bats in the lineup and if he heats up that's a big piece.
We ll prob see Loney tomorrow  
spike : 9/24/2016 11:04 pm : link
Bruce at 1b would start in spring training. But we need Duda is get going next week. We know what Loney can do
We need Gsellman to go 6  
spike : 9/24/2016 11:05 pm : link
And the rested offense to mash against the rookie Phillies starter Thompson
RE: We ll prob see Loney tomorrow  
Mike in NY : 9/24/2016 11:07 pm : link
In comment 13139062 spike said:
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Bruce at 1b would start in spring training. But we need Duda is get going next week. We know what Loney can do


Or start Rivera or KJ at 1B and Cecchini at 2B
Bruce has played some 1B before (3 gms with Reds)  
Eric on Li : 9/24/2016 11:11 pm : link
so it's not like he's never done it. He did have 2 errors in those 3 games so maybe it was just that bad.
Was fun but really needed a nimmo  
bhill410 : 9/24/2016 11:27 pm : link
Hit there in either at bat. You have to wonder what could have been if terry kept some of the starters in. Tough one to mail away considering everything that is at stake.
TDa only hits groundball outs  
spike : 9/24/2016 11:28 pm : link
They can put 6 infielders to defend. Fix your swing, travis


Pads tied 6-6 with the Giants, 8th inning
Thor is scheduled to start on Tuesday  
spike : 9/24/2016 11:32 pm : link
And in line to start the last game of the season.

Hope that strep improves.

Cecchini looks like a teen
SD made it close  
spike : 9/25/2016 12:24 am : link
But lose in extra inning to SF, 9-6
8 games remaining  
spike : 9/25/2016 7:24 am : link
They need to go 5-3.
I can't blame him  
CMicks3110 : 9/25/2016 7:29 am : link
since he really wanted to stay a Met but....

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Said ex-Met Daniel Murphy to Washington reporters after watching the conclusion of the Mets game: "I don't know if I've ever rooted for the Phillies so hard."

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/124426/morning-briefing-last-call-at-citi-field - ( New Window )
sorry 7 games left  
spike : 9/25/2016 7:29 am : link
Sunday - Gsellman vs Thompson
Monday - Colon vs Fernandez
Tuesday - Syndergaard vs Koehler
Wed - Lugo vs Urena
Thursday off
Friday - Gsellman vs Asher
Saturday - Colon vs Thompson
Sunday - Syndergaard vs Eickhoff
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