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Kratch: Giants promote Adams waive Hunter

Defenderdawg : 9/24/2016 12:31 pm
#Giants have promoted Andrew Adams, waived Michael Hunter.
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Defenderdawg : 9/24/2016 12:33 pm : link
James Kratch (@JamesKratch)
9/24/16, 12:26 PM
#Giants have promoted Andrew Adams, waived Michael Hunter

James Kratch (@JamesKratch)
9/24/16, 12:28 PM
The newly-promoted Adams will be 3rd safety. Hunter had been promoted himself on Tuesday. #Giants twitter.com/JamesKratch/st…
Not surprising.  
Klaatu : 9/24/2016 12:34 pm : link
I figured they'd promote Adams, what with both Thompsons on the shelf.
Not sure why we didn't use do this originally  
Anakim : 9/24/2016 12:34 pm : link
But ok, let's roll!
Poor Hunter  
mfsd : 9/24/2016 12:37 pm : link
right after that really nice article about him getting his chance
Maybe had to do with the offensive linemen  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/24/2016 12:39 pm : link
They signed to the practice squad to make room? Still makes no sense just promote Adams
RE: Not sure why we didn't use do this originally  
Klaatu : 9/24/2016 12:41 pm : link
In comment 13138560 Anakim said:
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But ok, let's roll!


Yeah, it seems kind of a roundabout way of doing what should have been done from the get-go.

My guess is that they flirted with the idea of having Leon Hall play some Safety, which is why they brought up Hunter, then thought better of it and decided to waive Hunter and promote Adams instead.
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Defenderdawg : 9/24/2016 12:42 pm : link
James Kratch (@JamesKratch)
9/24/16, 12:32 PM
Odd decision. They can likely get Hunter through waivers and back to PS. But seems a bit clunky, and costs #Giants a game check.

Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY)
9/24/16, 12:30 PM
CB Michael Hunter could be resigned to the Giants practice squad on Monday, as soon as he clears waivers, according to a source.
The $26k could be a wink wink nod  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/24/2016 12:49 pm : link
To stay with the Giants
RE: The $26k could be a wink wink nod  
giants#1 : 9/24/2016 12:51 pm : link
In comment 13138576 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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To stay with the Giants


^this
Why are the beat writers  
Joey in VA : 9/24/2016 1:01 pm : link
All of the sudden concerned with a billion dollar franchise spending $26k? You're not accountants, and I would wager that the Mara family probably knows a bit more about finance and making money than people who hold microphones feet away from sweaty athletes.
Adams should have made the initial 53  
Big Rick in FL : 9/24/2016 1:11 pm : link
No clue why they kept Thompson over him.
RE: Adams should have made the initial 53  
Klaatu : 9/24/2016 1:18 pm : link
In comment 13138590 Big Rick in FL said:
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No clue why they kept Thompson over him.


They both should have made the final 53. The Giants should have kept five Safeties from the outset, in my opinion.
The theory is  
DavidinBMNY : 9/24/2016 1:28 pm : link
They wanted Hunter for specials. Then with Thompson unable to go they needed Adams.
i thought adams  
area junc : 9/24/2016 1:37 pm : link
should've made the team. he's a football player
RE: i thought adams  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/24/2016 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13138606 area junc said:
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should've made the team. he's a football player


Funny...I thought he was a podiatrist
RE: RE: The $26k could be a wink wink nod  
AcidTest : 9/24/2016 3:35 pm : link
In comment 13138579 giants#1 said:
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In comment 13138576 Larry in Pencilvania said:


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To stay with the Giants



^this


Maybe. Interesting take.
RE: Why are the beat writers  
Milton : 9/24/2016 4:20 pm : link
In comment 13138586 Joey in VA said:
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All of the sudden concerned with a billion dollar franchise spending $26k?
I think the point was simply that it cost the Giants $26K against the salary cap unnecessarily. It's pocket change under a $155M cap, but still.

Maybe someone (Washington?) was sniffing around Hunter and his temporary promotion prevented a move. And maybe Hunter will be the next man up when one of the DT's (Hughes, Johnson) is released (could be as early as next week). And for how long will they keep 3 QB's on the roster?
Unless a vast difference in talent level,  
Bob in Newburgh : 9/24/2016 5:16 pm : link
and we are comparing apples to oranges here,

the crazy roster decision is keeping 5 very part-time DTs where we already have 5 DEs, some of who will sub into DT-like positions in pass rushing situations.
I wondered why they did  
section125 : 9/24/2016 5:43 pm : link
that earlier in the week when it was posted..
The other thing...  
Milton : 9/24/2016 6:01 pm : link
With so many teams around the league hurting at the CB position, the Giants just gave everyone a heads up that Hunter was the next man up in their deep pool of CB talent. And now his name is staring at them from the waiver wire.

The only possible benefit I can see from the move is that the Giants wanted Adams available for game day, but thought there was a risk of Hunter signing with the Redskins this week (and no risk of Adams signing with anyone).
I thought  
PaulN : 9/24/2016 6:25 pm : link
This kid Adams looked fantastic when he played this pre season. I am glad we brought him up here before we would lose him.
RE: The other thing...  
Joey in VA : 9/24/2016 9:57 pm : link
In comment 13138796 Milton said:
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With so many teams around the league hurting at the CB position, the Giants just gave everyone a heads up that Hunter was the next man up in their deep pool of CB talent. And now his name is staring at them from the waiver wire.

The only possible benefit I can see from the move is that the Giants wanted Adams available for game day, but thought there was a risk of Hunter signing with the Redskins this week (and no risk of Adams signing with anyone).


Hunter's nothing special if you look at the CB talent on this roster. Our top 4 are Jenkins, DRC, Apple and Hall and Trevin Wade as a 5th is pretty damn good considering he was starting last year in spots. This is really nothing other than Adams is a better player.
RE: RE: The other thing...  
Milton : 9/24/2016 10:35 pm : link
In comment 13139020 Joey in VA said:
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Hunter's nothing special if you look at the CB talent on this roster. Our top 4 are Jenkins, DRC, Apple and Hall and Trevin Wade as a 5th is pretty damn good considering he was starting last year in spots. This is really nothing other than Adams is a better player.
The mystery is: why was Hunter promoted over Adams in the first place? Like you say, the Giants were already deep enough at CB that there was little chance of Hunter being active on game day unless it was solely for special teams purposes.
p.s.-- If I'm a team that is hurting for a CB, I would be looking at the practice squads of teams that are deep at the position.
I'll say this...  
Milton : 9/24/2016 10:38 pm : link
If the Giants had a player on their practice squad that they were afraid to lose, they wouldn't keep 3 QB's and 5 DT's on the 53 man roster.
Rob Rang draft report on Adams:  
Del Shofner : 9/24/2016 10:42 pm : link
STRENGTHS: Sports a compact, well-developed frame. Balanced, coordinated athlete with light feet and quick change of direction. Keeps an eye on the quarterback and shows a good understanding of route concepts, getting a jump on the ball.
Tracks the ball well, showing good hand-eye coordination and the body control to contort in space to make difficult catches. Takes aggressive (but not hazardous) routes to the ball and shows the ability to deliver physical hits. Squares up ballcarriers and wraps his arms effectively to make the reliable open-field tackle. Voted a team captain in 2015.

WEAKNESSES: Does not possess ideal range to cover sideline to sideline and could struggle handling the deep threats he'll face in the NFL. At times is too content playing the role of final resort for the defense, allowing teammates to make plays in front of him. Must show better agility and strength to fight through blocks of receivers and tight ends while in run support.

IN OUR VIEW: Adams lacks the elite size-speed combination of an early-round choice but he has shown a knack for being in the right place at the right time. His instincts, reliable open-field tackling and ball-skills should earn him Day Three consideration for teams in need of help at safety and on special teams.

--Rob Rang (2/11/16)
RE: RE: RE: The other thing...  
Mike in NY : 9/24/2016 11:49 pm : link
In comment 13139041 Milton said:
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In comment 13139020 Joey in VA said:


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Hunter's nothing special if you look at the CB talent on this roster. Our top 4 are Jenkins, DRC, Apple and Hall and Trevin Wade as a 5th is pretty damn good considering he was starting last year in spots. This is really nothing other than Adams is a better player.

The mystery is: why was Hunter promoted over Adams in the first place? Like you say, the Giants were already deep enough at CB that there was little chance of Hunter being active on game day unless it was solely for special teams purposes.
p.s.-- If I'm a team that is hurting for a CB, I would be looking at the practice squads of teams that are deep at the position.


Maybe they thought Darian Thompson would play this week and so took the better ST player. When Darian went down the bigger issue was having only 2 true S's dressed.
RE: Rob Rang draft report on Adams:  
Milton : 9/24/2016 11:51 pm : link
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Adams lacks the elite size-speed combination of an early-round choice but he has shown a knack for being in the right place at the right time. His instincts, reliable open-field tackling and ball-skills should earn him Day Three consideration for teams in need of help at safety and on special teams.
Sometimes the rep for being in the right place at the right time is just a lucky streak, but the same things that Rang talks about from his college career were evident during the preseason. That's very encouraging because I didn't know it was a carryover from college.
Adams for Hunter  
Carson53 : 9/25/2016 9:13 am : link
I nailed this roster move, Adams for Hunter.
It was painfully obvious what had to be done. You can't go into a game with two healthy safeties.
RE: RE: RE: RE: The other thing...  
Milton : 9/25/2016 11:28 am : link
In comment 13139090 Mike in NY said:
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Maybe they thought Darian Thompson would play this week and so took the better ST player. When Darian went down the bigger issue was having only 2 true S's dressed.
Good point. I had lost track of the timeline on the injuries. That makes the most sense.
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