Michael Gehlken (@sdutGehlken)
9/24/16, 4:01 PM
Chargers waived RB Andre Williams, team announced. Move created room for practice-squad promotion of TE Asante Cleveland.
Had 2,177 yds rushing and 18 TDs his senior year. He was 1st in rushing yards and won the Doak award and was Unanimous All American. I hope he finds a team that can utilize his talents.
You may be right. He needs a team with an OL that can let him get some mo into a MLB. 'Boys would be good for EE relief and late 3rd and 4thQtr ball possession(if he can wrap 2 arms around the ball).
Had 2,177 yds rushing and 18 TDs his senior year. He was 1st in rushing yards and won the Doak award and was Unanimous All American. I hope he finds a team that can utilize his talents.
had over 700 yards his rookie season and he was responsible for Tiki becoming an elite RB. Andre Williams wishes he could stick around on the Giants bench for 5 years like Dayne did.
2.9 YPC is mind-numbingly bad. Having said that, he always seemed like a very nice and thoughtful person when I heard him interviewed, so I do hope he discovers whatever made him successful at BC and finds another gig in the NFL.
Be serious ....
He can't catch a cold either ...
as far as who we cut that was any better its more like
who have we drafted that was any better ??
He is not a good RB sure he trucked a couple of safeties
when he had a hole as wide as the grand canyon ..
Activate Rainey at least he has proven to be able to
make big plays .. As long as he secures the ball he is
everything that Williams will never be ...
They should have grabbed Forsett when the Ravens
released him ..
Good grief the Giants run blocking sucks. What the hell was Newhouse even doing?? On some of those runs Williams was doing most of the work himself. SMH.
But I wonder, last year, in a season where we seemed to take pride in blowing winnable games by the slimmest of margins, how we would have fared if we didn't have the "it's Andres turn!" 2-3-4 series' per game. He killed drives in 2015 worse than any aspect of your team. We all saw how effective Jennings was towards the end of the year with more carries.
And yes most of that paragraph is a run on sentence.
That our run blocking this year is horrendous. But while Andre Williams definitely passed the physical eye test, you just knew that he was not a good runner (lacked instinct) by watching him last season. He was real bad.
But I wonder, last year, in a season where we seemed to take pride in blowing winnable games by the slimmest of margins, how we would have fared if we didn't have the "it's Andres turn!" 2-3-4 series' per game. He killed drives in 2015 worse than any aspect of your team. We all saw how effective Jennings was towards the end of the year with more carries.
And yes most of that paragraph is a run on sentence.
I don't think it's a stretch to say we may have won 3 or 4 of those close games had the staff not forced Williams in to the rotation.
AW's detractors often point to the 2.9 YPC in 2015.
That's fair enough, but here's a counter-example to keep in mind. In 2012, Rashad Jennings got his big opportunity in Jacksonville, with Maurice Jones-Drew sidelined. His per-carry average that year? 2.8 yards. He was replaced by the immortal Jalen Parmele.
Not saying Williams was good, just that his awful stats in New York should be kept in context. The Giants have been a terrible running team for a long time. They were mostly terrible in 2011-2013, before Andre Williams arrived, and aside from a few flashes against Dallas, they look pretty bad post-Williams too.
As a pure ball-carrier, how big is the gap between Andre Williams and, say, Alfred Morris or LaGarrette Blount? I guess we'll never know, unless AW lands in Dallas or New England. Andre's fatal flaw, IMO, was his hands, not his lack of vision. There's a place in the NFL for a straight-ahead runner, but maybe not for one who also can't catch.
Be serious ....
He can't catch a cold either ...
as far as who we cut that was any better its more like
who have we drafted that was any better ??
He is not a good RB sure he trucked a couple of safeties
when he had a hole as wide as the grand canyon ..
Activate Rainey at least he has proven to be able to
make big plays .. As long as he secures the ball he is
everything that Williams will never be ...
They should have grabbed Forsett when the Ravens
released him ..
I never said he was a fucking pro bowler but this crap about how he never showed flashes of being even decent is fucking bullshit, especially when this guy was running behind some of the worst oline play I have ever seen.
Is there a team that can utilize the talent for running right into the defensive line?
We've seen enough to understand the answer, haven't we?
AND he won the the Heisman Trophy!!
Oh wait, were you not talking about Ron Dayne?
If Jennings is going to struggle with his hand, it would be nice to have a sledge hammer around.
The Common Cold as long as he can run & block.
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I hope he finds a team that can utilize his talents.
Is there a team that can utilize the talent for running right into the defensive line?
That requires not running into the backs of your o-line first, something Williams wasn't very good at
They already have a solid backup yet I agree.
You're right, my bad. ;-)
Grow up. Hopefully he doesn't go on BBI and get his feelings hurt?
Apparently, that didn't add much to his quickness, agility or fluidity.
But in the end, nobody seems to have any interest him...
Personally, the worst running pack I ever saw....didn't make the team.
Maybe 1? And it wasn't even bad. But Randy to the rescue!
you must be a young guy. He is not even the worst that the Giants have had
I dont recall anyone better who was cut for him.
I think he got too many carries last year. He seems to regress from his rookie season.
He can't catch a cold either ...
as far as who we cut that was any better its more like
who have we drafted that was any better ??
He is not a good RB sure he trucked a couple of safeties
when he had a hole as wide as the grand canyon ..
Activate Rainey at least he has proven to be able to
make big plays .. As long as he secures the ball he is
everything that Williams will never be ...
They should have grabbed Forsett when the Ravens
released him ..
Good grief the Giants run blocking sucks. What the hell was Newhouse even doing?? On some of those runs Williams was doing most of the work himself. SMH.
And yes most of that paragraph is a run on sentence.
And yes most of that paragraph is a run on sentence.
Not saying Williams was good, just that his awful stats in New York should be kept in context. The Giants have been a terrible running team for a long time. They were mostly terrible in 2011-2013, before Andre Williams arrived, and aside from a few flashes against Dallas, they look pretty bad post-Williams too.
As a pure ball-carrier, how big is the gap between Andre Williams and, say, Alfred Morris or LaGarrette Blount? I guess we'll never know, unless AW lands in Dallas or New England. Andre's fatal flaw, IMO, was his hands, not his lack of vision. There's a place in the NFL for a straight-ahead runner, but maybe not for one who also can't catch.
He can't catch a cold either ...
as far as who we cut that was any better its more like
who have we drafted that was any better ??
He is not a good RB sure he trucked a couple of safeties
when he had a hole as wide as the grand canyon ..
Activate Rainey at least he has proven to be able to
make big plays .. As long as he secures the ball he is
everything that Williams will never be ...
They should have grabbed Forsett when the Ravens
released him ..
I never said he was a fucking pro bowler but this crap about how he never showed flashes of being even decent is fucking bullshit, especially when this guy was running behind some of the worst oline play I have ever seen.
he'll be fine in a power offense with good OL
I'd take him back if we needed a back, knows the system and he can block the blitz