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Marty866b : 9/25/2016 7:02 pm
I don't see how we will be a really good defensive team when we can't get after the passer. Our pass rush is anemic. Watching the game again it's depressing to see how clean a pocket Cousins had on most of his throws. Our best pass rusher today was JPP and he wasn't exactly in the quarterback's face all day. We get nothing on our interior pass rush. They can't play every down but I think we would get a better pass rush with Snacks and Hankins in there instead what we bring in on our pass rush package. If Eli had the time that Cousins had today he might have thrown for 500 yards. It has been the same problem we have had now for years despite all the money spent. I don't know how much Vernon is hurt but he's been extremely disappointing the last two weeks. I guess we will all hope for improvement.
I said after last week's game that was as well as they can play  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/25/2016 7:05 pm : link
with no pass rush. JPP, Vernon, and Hankins have got to start putting more pressure on the QB.

The inability to stop the run in the 4th quarter was distressing after doing it well for about 11 quarters. The screen pass for a TD was embarrassing.
I think JPP  
CMicks3110 : 9/25/2016 7:05 pm : link
has rushed the passer well. Vernon they say might have a minor injury. The two inside guys are really run stuffers. We do seem to get there when we blitz a 5th guy.

I also think we have played some really good offensive lines. Vernon has gone up against Tyron Smith, Terron Armstead, and Trent Williams, three excellent left tackles. I think we will do well against Minnesota from a d-line perspective.
Right, the pass rush was dissapointing  
BillT : 9/25/2016 7:07 pm : link
Against a OL playing two backups. Have to think Vernon is hurting. There just doesn't look to be that explosiveness we've seen from him. Might have been as big a factor as any buy with the penalties, turnovers and no pass rush you can take your pick.
As much as Eli is getting blamed here (BBI) for the loss  
steve in ky : 9/25/2016 7:07 pm : link
The offense scored 27 points which many would have guessed against the Skins to enough to win if not for the defense allowing 29 points

The defense needs to to play better moving forward.
Playing prevent with a 3 man rush  
montanagiant : 9/25/2016 7:13 pm : link
in the 3rd qtr in a tight game is also something we need to eliminate. Especially given that we were not getting pressure with a 4-man rush
RE: As much as Eli is getting blamed here (BBI) for the loss  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/25/2016 7:14 pm : link
In comment 13141901 steve in ky said:
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The offense scored 27 points which many would have guessed against the Skins to enough to win if not for the defense allowing 29 points

The defense needs to to play better moving forward.


To be fair, special teams and offensive fuck-ups gave the Skins 3 short fields, 2 of which they scored on.
I'm convinced Vernon is badly hurt  
area junc : 9/25/2016 7:14 pm : link
MG reported last week he was hurt more than they're letting on. He is a power player who controls OTs with his leverage. That aspect is totally gone and Spags is using him in a 2 pt. stance to keep him on the field. We was wincing in pain today. He was Strahan-esque in the preseason and week 1. Take that away and this D looks entirely different.
One more important note  
Marty866b : 9/25/2016 7:15 pm : link
Three games in and the defense has not forced one turnover. Not one. Not good.
quite a bulky wrap  
area junc : 9/25/2016 7:15 pm : link
he had on his wrist too, almost looked like a cast
RE: Playing prevent with a 3 man rush  
RetroJint : 9/25/2016 7:26 pm : link
In comment 13141918 montanagiant said:
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in the 3rd qtr in a tight game is also something we need to eliminate. Especially given that we were not getting pressure with a 4-man rush

Spagnuolo pulled his horns in when he lost the two corners. That means Wade plays. Wade stinks. Plus they were short the safety who has the most range. I don't like Spagnuolo. But there were reasons for some of the things that are irritating you.
It was disappointing.  
Rick5 : 9/25/2016 7:28 pm : link
Cousins looked way too comfortable back there for much of the game. I actually hope that Vernon's injury did play a role because they are going to need to do a better job moving forward than they did today.
RE: One more important note  
Reb8thVA : 9/25/2016 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13141924 Marty866b said:
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Three games in and the defense has not forced one turnover. Not one. Not good.


The defense last year made a lot of turnovers and still sucked.

Nonetheless, I am tiring of this bend but don't break tendency. On their last drive the Redskins ate up roughly seven minutes. That is seven minutes our offense did not have time to score.
RE: One more important note  
oldutican : 9/25/2016 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13141924 Marty866b said:
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Three games in and the defense has not forced one turnover. Not one. Not good.


Huge stat. Some of it is other team not making mistakes. The rest is a lack of play makers in the front 7.
Bad D....  
trueblueinpw : 9/25/2016 8:23 pm : link
Tough day all around but I'm especially worried about the lack of pressure in pass defense. I agree that OV seems hurt, but, he's on the field and so are Snack, Hank and JPP. There's the usual jags at linebacker but there's talent in the defensive backfield. So, the horses are there... maybe it's Spags? Idk...
It's sickening  
Doomster : 9/25/2016 9:39 pm : link
to see the db's and lb's play zone back there and the receiver runs into a hole, is surrounded by Giants, and makes the catch...
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