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Ezekiel Elliot

chris r : 9/26/2016 1:48 am
Are you impressed with him so far? I'm not and think the Cowboys did us a huge favor taking him at #4 (of course that may be balanced out by getting Dak in the 4th).

I don't see anything elite about him. Not speed, not burst, not COD, not power or balance. He'll produce behind that OL, but I think at 4 he was an overdraft. He reminds me a little of Ryan Mathews.
I'm a big fan of his  
giantsfan44ab : 9/26/2016 1:59 am : link
But I see what you are saying. Here's how I look at it: he's Demarco Murray 2.0. He can run, block and catch. He's not killer at any one of those (except blocking, he's an outstanding blocker) but he's gonna get All Pro/Pro Bowl selections because of it.

I don't think he's a more talented runner as guys in the class before him (Gurley, maybe even Coleman and Gordon) or the guys that will be coming out of this class (Fournette, cook, possibly Mccafrey, although I think Mccaffrey is very similar to Zeke). But I get the Cowboys picking him at 4. They essentially get Demarco Murray at $12M a year less or whatever it is he's making. It'll make little sense if they let him walk after 4 years but if there are no injury concerns early in his career I don't see why they'd try to replace him.
As with Gurley unless his name is J. Brown or Peterson  
Mason : 9/26/2016 2:07 am : link
I can't imagine taking a RB that high. I just can't.
I thnk  
Glover : 9/26/2016 6:11 am : link
the Chargers snaked the Boys by taking Bosa, but maybe they are thanking the Chargers for that dodged bullet.
Doesnt look  
Jon in NYC : 9/26/2016 7:48 am : link
all that impressive at all.

Taking a RB that high is not a smart play.
He looks awfully impressive to me, and  
barens : 9/26/2016 7:55 am : link
clearly, he's already improving from the first game. All of this talk about not needing him, if anyone watched the game last night, and saw his ability to pick up blitzes, and give his QB extra time in the pocket, was extremely impressive for any running back, let alone a rookie.
He's a great back  
RetroJint : 9/26/2016 7:59 am : link
who will get better . Collingsworth said it last night-Zeke was underestimating his speed to reach the corner against NFL defenses. He's now onto the fact that he can beat them at this level, as well. He also fumbled twice against the Redakins. He fumbled something like 5 times in 660 total touches at OSU so he gets a mulligan for that at least for now.
He is already showing improvement.  
GiantFilthy : 9/26/2016 8:09 am : link
Patience, blocking and following his blockers has already improved each game.
People  
AcidTest : 9/26/2016 8:31 am : link
expect to much, even from rookies. He's getting better, and will only improve IMO, especially with that OL. Remember that his QB is also a rookie, so teams will be more likely to stack the LOS to stop the run, and make Prescott beat them.
RE: He looks awfully impressive to me, and  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/26/2016 8:37 am : link
In comment 13142797 barens said:
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clearly, he's already improving from the first game. All of this talk about not needing him, if anyone watched the game last night, and saw his ability to pick up blitzes, and give his QB extra time in the pocket, was extremely impressive for any running back, let alone a rookie.


It was the Bears
Taking a running back high or not  
pjcas18 : 9/26/2016 8:45 am : link
is irrelevant. Many of you might be too young to remember the Emmitt Smith Cowboys.

They had a great line then too and Emmitt lined up in the backfield many times behind Daryl Johnston and you knew with alost 100% certainty they were going to run the ball, yet there was very little chance you had to stop them.

it was demoralizing. It seemed like when you stopped Emmitt Smith as the line he'd fall forward for 5 yards. I'd scratch my head, Giants run into the line it's no gain, they make what seems like a great play on Emmitt for a change and it's 2nd and 5.

Nothing takes over a game like being able to run the ball at will.

I believe with Elliott eventually this is what the Cowboys could have. I like the fact the Giants got them early, because rather than underestimating his speed like noted above, Collinsworth explained in the first quarter that Elliott was being impatient and sprinting every time he touched the ball as soon as he touched the ball and the OL couldn't get to their blocks and the Giants DL was too stout for Elliott on his own to beat anyone.

The debate about where to take a RB is separate, but if Elliott keeps improving at this rate and the Cowboys OL stays healthy they'll be tough to stop against the run.

Not saying I'm scared of them, or the team can't be beat, because their D is suspect and the passing game can be controlled, but against the run, they will be very tough to stop and I've seen that before against Dallas and it's not fun.
In the times..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/26/2016 8:47 am : link
he's been in, Alfred Morris looks like a much better back.
The take away I have of him is  
montanagiant : 9/26/2016 9:29 am : link
If you pop him good early and often, he gets real tentative
I think he's good not great  
GiantsLaw : 9/26/2016 10:16 am : link
But what I think will ultimately be his demise, is that he's a knuckhead
RE: RE: He looks awfully impressive to me, and  
barens : 9/26/2016 10:20 am : link
In comment 13142885 I Love Clams Casino said:
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In comment 13142797 barens said:


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clearly, he's already improving from the first game. All of this talk about not needing him, if anyone watched the game last night, and saw his ability to pick up blitzes, and give his QB extra time in the pocket, was extremely impressive for any running back, let alone a rookie.



It was the Bears


Yes it was, and he did what he was supposed to do.
agreed 100%.  
area junc : 9/26/2016 10:25 am : link
They could've found other RBs to produce similar results. Hell, Alfred Morris would be a terror as the full-time starter behind that OL.

I get what they were thinking - pair an elite RB behind an elite OL. Just think that draft pick was better spent somewhere else particularly when you lack talent on D.

I'm also relieved the Redskins took Scherff over Leonard Williams last year. An excellent RG is not worth a dominant DL.
RE: I thnk  
Mr. Bungle : 9/26/2016 10:26 am : link
In comment 13142724 Glover said:
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the Chargers snaked the Boys by taking Bosa, but maybe they are thanking the Chargers for that dodged bullet.

The Chargers were the bullet.
I thought Myles Jack at 4  
Earl the goat : 9/26/2016 10:37 am : link
Would've been a great pick
Can u imagine Dallas defense next year with a healthy. Jaylon Smith and Myles Jack
I know it's a big if.
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