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OBJ is unstable

BlueGuy : 9/26/2016 2:35 am
If he played for another team, we would be ripping him to pieces. He's our guy, though, so his behavior is 'refreshing' and 'needed'. He wants to win so bad he....he.....fought the kicker's net and got beat up. Way to feed the meme machine.

Dez does that and we crucify him. OBJ does it and we laud his 'fire'. The dude is a great player, but there is some serious roid rage there.

I want to win and was pissed as I sat in traffic for two hours lamenting the loss. But show some class, not your ass.

And his drop on 2nd and 10 when he could have just caught the ball that was in both hands late in the game on a crucial drive is one of the reasons the Giants lost (among many). He makes that catch and we are at worst at 3rd and 5. Shepard catches the next pass for 8 and now we are a 4th and 2 and we kick the FG. Crucial drop in a key situation on a well thrown ball by Eli. Sometimes just catching the ball is the big play.

Top tier talent. But you can't deny the cat is off.

This thread should go off the rails quickly.
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Great player, but IMO the O'Neill analogy is a bit off.  
VenteSette : 9/26/2016 9:27 am : link
Beckham's tantrum came after a pick that was thrown to Will Tye. He was stepping up on that drive and whatever reason he flipped out, it wasn't quite like O'Neill being angry at himself for striking out.

He was either mad at Eli for throwing away from him (and throwing a pick), mad at Tye for lazily getting undercut, or just mad at the lost opportunity. That was not a case of a player being harder on himself than his teammates.

It's not a huge problem, but the idea that plenty of people on this site wouldn't be celebrating and acting like the guy was a problem if that were Jamison Crowder and the Giants had won is ridiculous.
what upsets me the most  
GentleGiant : 9/26/2016 9:27 am : link
about yesterday's game was the way the Giants played it so similarly to last year's game against Norman when they had no other options to pass to besides OBJ. They add Cruz and Sheppard this year and basically ignore both of them in the 4th Qtr. OBJ was drawing double teams the entire time and they opt for passes to the TE? I cannot understand how you upgrade your offense yet don't change the game plan.
RE: RE: do you really believe that?  
UConn4523 : 9/26/2016 9:28 am : link
In comment 13143033 GentleGiant said:
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or is what actually happened what you should believe? Because I saw an "unstable" player lead us in marching down the field with his teammates blowing it. If him playing at the peak of his game doesn't raise the bar for his teammates, than that's on them. Stop making excuses for the team, they didn't execute and it has nothing to do with what Beckham did or didn't do on the sidelines.



When has Beckham ever marched the Giants down the field to victory? Give me a single big win that he has ever been a part of in a Giant uniform? Cruz has given the Giants victory in the face of defeat 2x this year. When has OBJ done that once for the Giants? Do a Google search for OBJ game winning catch and the only thing that comes up is his one handed catch against the Cowboys, anyone remember who actually won that game? Then do a search for Victor Cruz game winning catch, you'll game a page full of different catches.


You seem pretty unstable...
been holding this in  
GentleGiant : 9/26/2016 9:32 am : link
for 2 years, knew I should have just put a block on BBI this week. I'll stop now.
beckham jr  
Les in TO : 9/26/2016 9:32 am : link
had the game winning touchdown catches against the dolphins last year and in st Louis and home to Atlanta in his rookie seasons.

if you think the giants would be better off without beckham, see how they did the one game he missed last season against Minnesota.

Odell caught 8 balls against the saints  
LatHarv83 : 9/26/2016 9:32 am : link
And drew 2 long pass interference penalties on top of that, in a victory I might add, and the bulk of the recap I can recall around here in some circles last week centered around a ball he dropped that didn't even hurt us because Cruz made the catch on the very next play. Some people are just waiting to kill him any chance they get

And I love Eli, but he hasn't been blameless in letting a couple OBJ TDs slip away this year because of errant throws or non throws. Like the play in Dallas right before the Cruz td, missing him wide open. Or yesterday not seeing him when he was open for a long one when Norman got fooled.
I have 0 issue with Odell  
Vin R : 9/26/2016 9:33 am : link
This isn't Dez or Owens we are talking about
Over the top crying aside  
Overseer : 9/26/2016 9:36 am : link
I get being enormously frustrated after that Tye throw pick.

It is perplexing to me why, unless they're wide open, Manning chose (chooses) to throw to Rainey or the two Tight Ends who would not make an another NFL roster (Randle style) when you have 3 pro-bowl caliber WRs. Rainey is fucking 5'8"...not typically the type who catches back of the endzone balls like he's Plaxico Burress.

I would explore trading for a tight end this season, giving up as much as a 2 for the right player (better a 3 obviously). The position is a catastrophe and has the potential to really hurt the Giants' playoff chances.
RE: Odell caught 8 balls against the saints  
UConn4523 : 9/26/2016 9:37 am : link
In comment 13143057 LatHarv83 said:
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And drew 2 long pass interference penalties on top of that, in a victory I might add, and the bulk of the recap I can recall around here in some circles last week centered around a ball he dropped that didn't even hurt us because Cruz made the catch on the very next play. Some people are just waiting to kill him any chance they get

And I love Eli, but he hasn't been blameless in letting a couple OBJ TDs slip away this year because of errant throws or non throws. Like the play in Dallas right before the Cruz td, missing him wide open. Or yesterday not seeing him when he was open for a long one when Norman got fooled.


Eli also missed Beckham who was wide open yesterday by about 20 yards for a sure 80 yard TD (or whatever the distance was). I can't remember which quarter it was.

IMO, we didn't feed him enough. He was getting open at will and I wish we went to him more. Pittsburgh fans don't complain about, Atlanta fans don't complain about it, and Detroit fans didn't complain about it when their star WR's were/are getting fed.
Huh??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/26/2016 9:39 am : link
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They add Cruz and Sheppard this year and basically ignore both of them in the 4th Qtr


The play right before the game-ending pick was to Cruz for a long first down.

I know there's a narrative starting that no player but the 3 WR's should get balls thrown their way, but not only is that a ridiculous thing to espouse, it is pretty much incorrect to begin with.
This isn't true..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/26/2016 9:42 am : link
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Pittsburgh fans don't complain about, Atlanta fans don't complain about it, and Detroit fans didn't complain about it when their star WR's were/are getting fed.


Both Falcons fans and Lions fans have said they've lost games because they were trying to force the ball to Jones or Megatron too much.

It happens with every team. If you win (like Pittsburgh usually does) there aren't a lot of complaints. When you lose, like the Falcons and Lions have, people complain.

Lions fans have wanted the ball spread out, to Riddick and Tate last year. Falcons fans lamented Roddy White's decline because they felt it made them too reliant on Jones.
Haha, what a crock  
BigBlueShock : 9/26/2016 9:47 am : link
So, let me get this straight. The OP is actually wondering why people treat their own players differently than opposing teams players? Bwahaaaaa! Holy smokes. Hello! Of course we do! It's called being a fan! And you coming on here shitting on OBJ and ripping fans for criticizing other players but backing their own doesn't make you a better fan or a better person, like you seem to think it does. It just makes it seem like you're out of touch with reality. We are SUPPOSED to look at our own players differently.
He'll act more mature  
bignygfan : 9/26/2016 9:49 am : link
When he gets older.

Trust me, I used to be the same way. One-handed catches, new hairstyles, Instagramning with Drake but then I turned 40! lol
RE: This isn't true..  
UConn4523 : 9/26/2016 9:50 am : link
In comment 13143086 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Pittsburgh fans don't complain about, Atlanta fans don't complain about it, and Detroit fans didn't complain about it when their star WR's were/are getting fed.



Both Falcons fans and Lions fans have said they've lost games because they were trying to force the ball to Jones or Megatron too much.

It happens with every team. If you win (like Pittsburgh usually does) there aren't a lot of complaints. When you lose, like the Falcons and Lions have, people complain.

Lions fans have wanted the ball spread out, to Riddick and Tate last year. Falcons fans lamented Roddy White's decline because they felt it made them too reliant on Jones.


I don't really put much stock in that. Grass is always greener even if it comes from the coaches mouth. What are you paying $20 million for?

The reason why Atlanta and Detroit lose games is because their QB's and defenses suck. They also have inconsistent at best running games.

Pittsburgh has a legit defense and legit running game and they still feed Brown all he can handle.
The bottom line here?  
montanagiant : 9/26/2016 9:53 am : link
OBJ is the very least of the problems this team has
Are people really worrying about memes that will pop up this week  
Mike from Ohio : 9/26/2016 9:59 am : link
or how OBJ acts in front of kids who idolize him?

Just to set the record straight, if your kid is more influenced by OBJ - or any athlete or public figure - than he is by what he experiences at home, you have already failed miserably as a parent. That isn't on OBJ.

Would I like to see the guy not melt down on the sideline? Sure. Would have liked to have seen Tom Coughlin not melt down on the sidelines too. But I don't shield my children from the screen when the Giants play because someone may show frustration in a poor way.

So in summary...get over it.
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Overseer : 9/26/2016 10:00 am : link
In comment 13143073 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I know there's a narrative starting that no player but the 3 WR's should get balls thrown their way, but not only is that a ridiculous thing to espouse, it is pretty much incorrect to begin with.

You're right, it's not possible or adviseable to only throw to the wide receivers but they, with Vereen, should be prioritized. 2 of them were open on the Tye pick. He & LD are bad players. It'd be nice if they could be even a poor man's Dan Campbell to help that part of the game, but neither of them can even block.

The TE position is a problem.
I also need to add  
UConn4523 : 9/26/2016 10:04 am : link
that I'm not saying we throw into triple coverage like Stafford and the rest of the Detroit QB's have done with Calvin Johnson over his career. I'm suggesting designing more plays for him and moving him around more.
People don't recognize the talent that is OBJ..  
chuckydee9 : 9/26/2016 10:06 am : link
Yesterday OBJ was destroying one of the top 3 CB in the league when he had safety help on every play.. OBJ is insane.. His talent level is way beyond our other WRs and certainly better than any of our TE and RB.. We did not lose the game because of him..
RE: RE: RE: Sorry....  
Giants2012 : 9/26/2016 10:26 am : link
In comment 13143028 Les in TO said:
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I didn't get to read the full thread. I was distracted by a video of LT throwing his helmet on the ground and throwing a tantrum.



It's quite obvious the OP is correct. If this was Dez, the hypocrites would be all over him. Fortunately, OBJ is a Giant so it's praise regardless. The OP is correct

Dez gets into fights with his teammates and coaches. OBJ gets into it with opponents and expresses his frustration away from others. There is a massive difference.


Ok, so he's no Larry Fitzgerald or Jerry Rice who blows past his coach on the sidelines after acting like an ass on the field.
Giants played scared on Offense  
est1986 : 9/26/2016 10:27 am : link
after a good start. You cant wait till the 4th to really involve the best player on the team. OBJ has aright to be pissed.
RE: Giants played scared on Offense  
UConn4523 : 9/26/2016 10:30 am : link
In comment 13143236 est1986 said:
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after a good start. You cant wait till the 4th to really involve the best player on the team. OBJ has aright to be pissed.


While I can sit here and pretend I know their strategy or gameplan, I will say it was pretty damn annoying we didn't stomp on their throats in the first half. It has generally been the Giants MO so it isn't surprising, but we could have put this damn thing away early. Going into the locker room at halftime up only 5 was brutal.
Talent is off the charts  
JordanCryFace : 9/26/2016 10:46 am : link
His behavior is embarassing.

(long time lurker first time poster, spare me the "you created an account to post this" bs)
RE: Talent is off the charts  
Brown Recluse : 9/26/2016 10:54 am : link
In comment 13143306 JordanCryFace said:
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His behavior is embarassing.

(long time lurker first time poster, spare me the "you created an account to post this" bs)


You shall not be spared.

You created an account to post this.

I also agree with you.
Hey montanagiant  
Kivorka : 9/26/2016 12:21 pm : link
It is true. Weston Richburg's aunt lives in my town and we get together every Sunday at BW3s to watch the game. She's always been a Cowboys fan but when he got drafted by the Giants she became a fan. Beezer gets most improved poster!
RE: Seems like an awful lot of people here never saw LT play  
Beezer : 9/26/2016 12:28 pm : link
In comment 13142947 Greg from LI said:
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He used to go berserk on the sidelines, throwing his helmet and screaming at people.


I saw LT's entire career.

It's a very poor comparison by you, Greg.
RE: The bottom line here?  
Beezer : 9/26/2016 12:30 pm : link
In comment 13143119 montanagiant said:
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OBJ is the very least of the problems this team has


I don't think he's a "problem." I just think he could help solidify things without acting like a 4-year-old having a tantrum in the grocery store after being told "no."
in a game where he knew he was under a microscope  
Dave : 9/26/2016 12:30 pm : link
he melted down anyway

and that, along with the turnovers and penalties, led to the loss
RE: in a game where he knew he was under a microscope  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2016 12:33 pm : link
In comment 13143616 Dave said:
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he melted down anyway

and that, along with the turnovers and penalties, led to the loss


He got emotional, but it clearly helped his performance and he didn't get a flag. That 4th quarter he took the game over.

Not sure how you define it as melting down. He put the team in position to ice the win, and, unfortunately, the QB didn't take advantage.
Would love it if someone like  
Beezer : 9/26/2016 12:34 pm : link
Herzlich, DeOssie, even JPP put Odell against a wall and read him the riot act. Might stick, coming from a vet.
TTH and others ...  
Beezer : 9/26/2016 12:35 pm : link

I fail to see how you KNOW his emotional outburst CLEARLY enhanced his performance. That strikes me as a really empty statement.
RE: TTH and others ...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2016 12:37 pm : link
In comment 13143631 Beezer said:
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I fail to see how you KNOW his emotional outburst CLEARLY enhanced his performance. That strikes me as a really empty statement.


Well, I'm basing it on how quiet he was for the first 3 quarters.
RE: RE: in a game where he knew he was under a microscope  
Brown Recluse : 9/26/2016 12:41 pm : link
In comment 13143621 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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he melted down anyway

and that, along with the turnovers and penalties, led to the loss



He got emotional, but it clearly helped his performance and he didn't get a flag. That 4th quarter he took the game over.

Not sure how you define it as melting down. He put the team in position to ice the win, and, unfortunately, the QB didn't take advantage.


Wasn't he flagged on the very last drive? Does that penalty not count?
RE: RE: RE: in a game where he knew he was under a microscope  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2016 12:45 pm : link
In comment 13143651 Brown Recluse said:
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he melted down anyway

and that, along with the turnovers and penalties, led to the loss



He got emotional, but it clearly helped his performance and he didn't get a flag. That 4th quarter he took the game over.

Not sure how you define it as melting down. He put the team in position to ice the win, and, unfortunately, the QB didn't take advantage.



Wasn't he flagged on the very last drive? Does that penalty not count?


He was flagged for a pick play, but that's not something I consider to be "melting down". Pick plays are often judgement calls by the refs, or they are technique-based failures to execute. Last year's Panther game was melting down. What richburg did yesterday was melting down.
I dunno,  
Brown Recluse : 9/26/2016 12:49 pm : link
seemed a bit overly aggressive to me. Not a stretch to assume that, given his prior antics - that aggression was an example of how he has a difficult time not letting his emotions dictate his actions.
Also,  
Brown Recluse : 9/26/2016 12:50 pm : link
a lot of people seem to think that last Richburg call was BS.

Very interesting how people see things differently depending on the player.
Unstable or  
Keith : 9/26/2016 12:51 pm : link
young and immature. He's a really good kid that needs to grow up a little. Fans suck.
My concern  
jpennyva : 9/26/2016 12:52 pm : link
isn't so much the tirade itself but when you pick fights with inanimate objects, sometimes the inanimate object wins or gets in a good shot. In all seriousness, he didn't get hurt against the net but what if he had? He could have cut his hand or his eye or sustained some other injury that could have compromised his ability to play. No, it didn't happen, but given what I saw, I don't think such a stupid action would have been out of the realm of possibilities. He can get angry and frustrated, he can yell and scream all he wants. Hell, I don't even care if he cries, but if his frustration and actions from it at some point results in an injury, I would be among those thinking he should get some help with channeling his emotions more productively.
RE: Also,  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2016 12:56 pm : link
In comment 13143678 Brown Recluse said:
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a lot of people seem to think that last Richburg call was BS.

Very interesting how people see things differently depending on the player.


I'm actually a huge Richburg fan. He put himself in a poor situation. Even if you don't like that he got tossed, it's still his fault for A) getting the FIRST unsportsmanlike, and B) letting the refs even consider giving him a second.

Everyone knew the game was going to be called tight. The officials let both sides know it. There is nobody to blame but him. I know fans don't like that he got tossed on what might have been a soft call, but that's making excuses for the player. Other than the Panther game, when is the last time a Giant player got TWO unsportsmanlike conducts in a game? It never happens. It's stupid behavior.

RE: RE: Seems like an awful lot of people here never saw LT play  
Rick5 : 9/26/2016 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13143607 Beezer said:
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He used to go berserk on the sidelines, throwing his helmet and screaming at people.



I saw LT's entire career.

It's a very poor comparison by you, Greg.

Beez, I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I agree with Greg. Why is it a poor comparison?
If they had the same number of cameras in 86  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2016 1:00 pm : link
as they do now, I'm sure LT would have been outed as a lunatic too.

RE: RE: Also,  
Brown Recluse : 9/26/2016 1:02 pm : link
In comment 13143699 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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a lot of people seem to think that last Richburg call was BS.

Very interesting how people see things differently depending on the player.



I'm actually a huge Richburg fan. He put himself in a poor situation. Even if you don't like that he got tossed, it's still his fault for A) getting the FIRST unsportsmanlike, and B) letting the refs even consider giving him a second.

Everyone knew the game was going to be called tight. The officials let both sides know it. There is nobody to blame but him. I know fans don't like that he got tossed on what might have been a soft call, but that's making excuses for the player. Other than the Panther game, when is the last time a Giant player got TWO unsportsmanlike conducts in a game? It never happens. It's stupid behavior.


I think the same could be said in principle for Beckhams penalty on the final drive.
RE: RE: RE: Seems like an awful lot of people here never saw LT play  
Brown Recluse : 9/26/2016 1:03 pm : link
In comment 13143710 Rick5 said:
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He used to go berserk on the sidelines, throwing his helmet and screaming at people.



I saw LT's entire career.

It's a very poor comparison by you, Greg.


Beez, I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I agree with Greg. Why is it a poor comparison?


LT was also a crackhead and was probably high half the time he was doing that.
Beckham has a little bit of a rock star following  
ghost718 : 9/26/2016 1:08 pm : link
To the point where these fans care about the individual match ups as much as he does.Can't tell you how many times I've read he toasted Norman in the Carolina game.Which is bullshit,but let's say he did anyway,who won the game?

Now the same thing is going on after yesterday.
RE: what upsets me the most  
nicky43 : 9/26/2016 1:08 pm : link
In comment 13143040 GentleGiant said:
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about yesterday's game was the way the Giants played it so similarly to last year's game against Norman when they had no other options to pass to besides OBJ. They add Cruz and Sheppard this year and basically ignore both of them in the 4th Qtr. OBJ was drawing double teams the entire time and they opt for passes to the TE? I cannot understand how you upgrade your offense yet don't change the game plan.


Excellent observation and something I kept asking myself about all game long. Why the heck did they target OBJ so much when he was double covered, over emotional, and dropping passes. I just don't get it.

And then we run the ball with 3rd and long almost every time.

It's as though Mac's whole offensive strategy is top call the play least likely to be expected. That may be fine sometimes but not when it's also the play least likely to succeed. Very bad play calling lost both games we lost so far.

As far as OBJ, tantrums, the coaches need to bench him when he acts up like that and you'll see how fast OBJ corrects those hissy fits.
RE: RE: RE: Seems like an awful lot of people here never saw LT play  
Beezer : 9/26/2016 1:13 pm : link
In comment 13143710 Rick5 said:
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He used to go berserk on the sidelines, throwing his helmet and screaming at people.



I saw LT's entire career.

It's a very poor comparison by you, Greg.


Beez, I was thinking the same thing yesterday. I agree with Greg. Why is it a poor comparison?


My view ... yes, we're talking about insanely effusive players. But one never seemed to be using it as a display or a damn pity party like Odell's strike me at times. LT always seemed fiery but measured, in a way, in order to lead and to get his guys properly "motivated."

For guys who watched LT's career, I don't believe you'll get a large percentage of them saying that he was ever completely out of control. Odell, with the crying and the blatant BS last year (helmet hit) and the non-stop histrionics, then and still now (yesterday), it's clear he's not anywhere near in control of his emotions.

Then there's the difference between one guy playing a "skill" position where his precision is critical, vs. a guy like LT who played a position of overt violence. His patent aggression was part and parcel to what made him the greatest to ever play the position.
RE: RE: RE: Also,  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2016 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13143722 Brown Recluse said:
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a lot of people seem to think that last Richburg call was BS.

Very interesting how people see things differently depending on the player.



I'm actually a huge Richburg fan. He put himself in a poor situation. Even if you don't like that he got tossed, it's still his fault for A) getting the FIRST unsportsmanlike, and B) letting the refs even consider giving him a second.

Everyone knew the game was going to be called tight. The officials let both sides know it. There is nobody to blame but him. I know fans don't like that he got tossed on what might have been a soft call, but that's making excuses for the player. Other than the Panther game, when is the last time a Giant player got TWO unsportsmanlike conducts in a game? It never happens. It's stupid behavior.




I think the same could be said in principle for Beckhams penalty on the final drive.


Without access to seeing the play again, the easy thing to do is say that because he got an offensive pass interference call, it means he was out of his mind and out of control. I'm not so sure. The nature of that play is such that a ref can see that play 10 times and decide to throw a flag at any point. He might have simply blocked his man too early.
I don't have access to the play either  
Brown Recluse : 9/26/2016 1:20 pm : link
so I won't say 100% he was not in control, but if my memory serves - he really got his helmet into Normans grill.

Just seems to me like he's gotten a huge pass for that penalty because fans want to defend his behavior.
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christian : 9/26/2016 1:30 pm : link
Some of you guys really are the worst.

Of course Giants would criticize if the shoe was on the other foot.

- Cruz - stop your idiotic, has-been dancing
- JPP - holy shit, your hand looks like someone took a bite out of a cookie
- Manning - Are you as stupid as that facial expression?
- Josh Brown - More domestic complaints than field goals made
- Landon Collins - Cromartie Daddy II
- OBJ - Got his ass kicked by Norman AND the kicking net

Yet ... since they are on the team and half of it's true, half is ridiculous, we want the good players on the team because we like winning.
RE: ...  
Giants2012 : 9/26/2016 1:41 pm : link
In comment 13143833 christian said:
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Some of you guys really are the worst.

Of course Giants would criticize if the shoe was on the other foot.

- Cruz - stop your idiotic, has-been dancing
- JPP - holy shit, your hand looks like someone took a bite out of a cookie
- Manning - Are you as stupid as that facial expression?
- Josh Brown - More domestic complaints than field goals made
- Landon Collins - Cromartie Daddy II
- OBJ - Got his ass kicked by Norman AND the kicking net

Yet ... since they are on the team and half of it's true, half is ridiculous, we want the good players on the team because we like winning.


McAdoo on Odell: "He needs to control himself better and be less of a distraction to his teammates

So the coach is ridiculous too right?

Maybe you need to hear how cool it was OBJ punched a FG net and it hit him in the head. Those tears were just passion
Cruz - keep dancing baby!!!!!
JPP - move over Arm Rangers, this guy is a warrior
Manning - GOAT, f Peyton
Josh Brown - glad he didn't kick her b/c he's awesome
Landon Collins- move over Ronnie Lott, you rule Collins

Happy now skippy? You're the best and good job calling out the rest as the worst.
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