If he played for another team, we would be ripping him to pieces. He's our guy, though, so his behavior is 'refreshing' and 'needed'. He wants to win so bad he....he.....fought the kicker's net and got beat up. Way to feed the meme machine.
Dez does that and we crucify him. OBJ does it and we laud his 'fire'. The dude is a great player, but there is some serious roid rage there.
I want to win and was pissed as I sat in traffic for two hours lamenting the loss. But show some class, not your ass.
And his drop on 2nd and 10 when he could have just caught the ball that was in both hands late in the game on a crucial drive is one of the reasons the Giants lost (among many). He makes that catch and we are at worst at 3rd and 5. Shepard catches the next pass for 8 and now we are a 4th and 2 and we kick the FG. Crucial drop in a key situation on a well thrown ball by Eli. Sometimes just catching the ball is the big play.
Top tier talent. But you can't deny the cat is off.
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This game did not come down to his drop. Plenty of blame and bad football to go around.
This game did not come down to his drop. Plenty of blame and bad football to go around.
Never said the game came down to his drop. But you can't deny it killed a drive.
And, the two drives killed by interceptions.
The guy wants to win. Badly. This is a bad thing?
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And who cares about "feeding the meme machine"?
This game did not come down to his drop. Plenty of blame and bad football to go around.
Never said the game came down to his drop. But you can't deny it killed a drive.
Do you know of a top tier WR who never drops balls? I dont.
The guy wants to win. Badly. This is a bad thing?
We blast Norman for crying after the Super Bowl. OBJ cries after a regular season game and that's ok.
Double standard.
No player in the NFL needs to be a functioning headcase to be good at their job. Sooner or later, this is all probably going to come back to bite us.
For the guy who is supposed to best ever, he drops a lot of balls in key situations. Balls that are in his hands. Carolina last year. Last week. This game late on a crucial drive.
Dude is talented. But he doesn't have to win the game by himself. He makes that catch and this game turns out differently, IMO. That's all I'm saying.
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and so I'm not falling for because we criticize Dez for doing it, it's bad that OBJ does logic you're trying to use.
The guy wants to win. Badly. This is a bad thing?
We blast Norman for crying after the Super Bowl. OBJ cries after a regular season game and that's ok.
Double standard.
Again. People saying stupid stuff about opposing players they hate doesn't mean it's bad when Beckham does that stuff. Norman cares. Dez cares. OBJ cares. As long as that behavior doesn't cost the team - and OBJ's sideline antics didn't - who cares?
I can't tell if your point is more that BBI has double standards or that OBJ is doing something bad for the team.
No player in the NFL needs to be a functioning headcase to be good at their job. Sooner or later, this is all probably going to come back to bite us.
Who cares if he "melts down" on the sideline? PAul Oneal punched shit after big strikeouts. Again, who cares.
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and so I'm not falling for because we criticize Dez for doing it, it's bad that OBJ does logic you're trying to use.
The guy wants to win. Badly. This is a bad thing?
We blast Norman for crying after the Super Bowl. OBJ cries after a regular season game and that's ok.
Double standard.
Again. People saying stupid stuff about opposing players they hate doesn't mean it's bad when Beckham does that stuff. Norman cares. Dez cares. OBJ cares. As long as that behavior doesn't cost the team - and OBJ's sideline antics didn't - who cares?
I can't tell if your point is more that BBI has double standards or that OBJ is doing something bad for the team.
Both. Equally.
Show some class.
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'Did he commit any penalties or drop any passes?' This "he just wants to win so bad' stuff is just an absurd rationalization. Anyone who watches football can write a list of talented WRs that don't melt down on the sideline when the team is losing. Come talk to me when we see Larry Fitzgerald or Antonio Brown throw these kinds of tantrums.
No player in the NFL needs to be a functioning headcase to be good at their job. Sooner or later, this is all probably going to come back to bite us.
Who cares if he "melts down" on the sideline? PAul Oneal punched shit after big strikeouts. Again, who cares.
You'll see. Eventually.
So the way he acts on TV in front of kids that idolize him is 'utterly unimportant'? I beg to differ.
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That's the gist of it. It was bad optics and you didn't like it because some Cowboy fans would make fun of him like we do Dez. Who gives a shit? He's the best thing to happen to this franchise in a long time. Who gives a shit if threw a tantrum? What did it effect? Your ability to save face in a loss? Fuck that.
Show some class.
I'll show some class after you stop with your sanctimonious bullshit.
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on the sidelines with his behavior and that he's obviously letting the attention of the Norman feud get into his head. He's freaking out on the sidelines because he wants to win this matchup so badly. But... he's hardly the reason that the Giants lost today. You can name 20 things that hurt the team today more than his drops or antics did. He does need to harness his emotions though. If he could turn all of that emotion into a controlled rage like Jordan said he did, he would be even more amazing.
For the guy who is supposed to best ever, he drops a lot of balls in key situations. Balls that are in his hands. Carolina last year. Last week. This game late on a crucial drive.
Dude is talented. But he doesn't have to win the game by himself. He makes that catch and this game turns out differently, IMO. That's all I'm saying.
Giants final drive ended on an interception where the intercepting player said after the game both he and Vereen were shocked that the ball was thrown there. They were only 20 yards from FG range with about 58 seconds with two timeouts. Don't overthink it.
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Jesus. We're trying to win games here not be internally consistent. You care about utterly unimportant shit.
So the way he acts on TV in front of kids that idolize him is 'utterly unimportant'? I beg to differ.
Yes, those kids have parents that can prevent them from watching if they so please. This is a game with grown men running at each other at full speed and shortening each other's lives and you're upset that a kid will see him show a little emotion on the sideline?
He flat out embarrassed the franchise last year. It was a disgrace the way he headhunted Norman. If you don't think so, then your 'new skool cool'. And you have no idea how old I am. But if showing some decorum is 'old fogie' shit, I'm in.
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Jesus. We're trying to win games here not be internally consistent. You care about utterly unimportant shit.
So the way he acts on TV in front of kids that idolize him is 'utterly unimportant'? I beg to differ.
Oh no, he punched a net. My kids are going to become murders!
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You guys having a giant stick up your ass about everything doesn't make you better people. It's fucking pathetic. If you think OBJ is embarrassing the franchise or something, I think you're embarrassing this fan base. A bunch of old fogies yelling at the sky.
He flat out embarrassed the franchise last year. It was a disgrace the way he headhunted Norman. If you don't think so, then your 'new skool cool'. And you have no idea how old I am. But if showing some decorum is 'old fogie' shit, I'm in.
He was wrong in that game, but Norman doesn't get any blame here? And we're talking about today, I don't give a shit about last year. OBJ wasn't the one practically body slamming Norman in this game.
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That's the gist of it. It was bad optics and you didn't like it because some Cowboy fans would make fun of him like we do Dez. Who gives a shit? He's the best thing to happen to this franchise in a long time. Who gives a shit if threw a tantrum? What did it effect? Your ability to save face in a loss? Fuck that.
Show some class.
I'll show some class after you stop with your sanctimonious bullshit.
I meant OBJ should show some class. You're really on the dilsnick hard there, bruh. if I was the only one saying this, maybe it would be sanctimonious. But I'm not, I assure you.
I'm sure Julian Edelman is very classy.
But if your complaints are strictly about on the field performance, then you don't have anything to worry about. Antonio Bryant and Dez Bryant caught zero passes when being defended by Josh Norman. Odell had a terrific game... not perfect, but still excellent nonetheless.
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Jesus. We're trying to win games here not be internally consistent. You care about utterly unimportant shit.
So the way he acts on TV in front of kids that idolize him is 'utterly unimportant'? I beg to differ.
Oh no, he punched a net. My kids are going to become murders!
Wow.
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Jesus. We're trying to win games here not be internally consistent. You care about utterly unimportant shit.
So the way he acts on TV in front of kids that idolize him is 'utterly unimportant'? I beg to differ.
Yes, those kids have parents that can prevent them from watching if they so please. This is a game with grown men running at each other at full speed and shortening each other's lives and you're upset that a kid will see him show a little emotion on the sideline?
A little emotion? Boy, if he really went off, we're all in trouble.
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No jokes here. The crying is a bit much.
Some of you guys justifying his unhinged behavior, even after team leaders attempted to reason with him (including Eli) ... Just very surprising.
No jokes here. The crying is a bit much.
Some of you guys justifying his unhinged behavior, even after team leaders attempted to reason with him (including Eli) ... Just very surprising.
Exactly, Beez. No one is denying his ability. He's an amazing athlete. But he's also nutty like a squirrel turd, at times. Norman cries after losing the biggest game of his and he's a bitch. OBJ cries after game 3 of the regular season and he's 'passionate'.
Fine line between passionate and unstable.
Ask and you shall receive.
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One way or another, if the organization is not already trying to counsel him, they should. They counsel guys on money, and behavior away from the field. Isn't there a seminar for the new guys? The organization should try to help him. He won't lose talent or passion. lol. Hell just MAYBE learn how to better control his emotions.
Did it alter the outcome? I don't know. Those saying it didn't can't claim that, imo. His behavior was a distraction and compelled others in uniform to address it when they could have had their attention elsewhere. Wasted time and attention there.
I hope the organization addresses this, quietly and internally. Not from a punishment standpoint. But from a position of caring and helping this toynf star get his act together, to be less of a distraction, and to better be able to stay focused during potentially emotional moments on the field.
One way or another, if the organization is not already trying to counsel him, they should. They counsel guys on money, and behavior away from the field. Isn't there a seminar for the new guys? The organization should try to help him. He won't lose talent or passion. lol. Hell just MAYBE learn how to better control his emotions.
Did it alter the outcome? I don't know. Those saying it didn't can't claim that, imo. His behavior was a distraction and compelled others in uniform to address it when they could have had their attention elsewhere. Wasted time and attention there.
I hope the organization addresses this, quietly and internally. Not from a punishment standpoint. But from a position of caring and helping this toynf star get his act together, to be less of a distraction, and to better be able to stay focused during potentially emotional moments on the field.
Bing! Bing! Bing! We have a winner!!
It means nothing he will outgrow that stuff. Giants feed off his energy
As a fan, I do think his tirade was bizarre. He expends a ton on energy on the sidelines. Yet, if his teammates don't mind and the coach doesn't mind and the refs aren't throwing flags, I'm not sure that I really care.
And I think Giants coaching staff are partly to blame. If they got him involved early, this wouldnt have happened, not to mention they could have probably won the game.
It's prevalent throughout the NFL, the "diva" syndrome, it's hey look at me even when I'm on the sideline nonsense.
It's basically because they want to punch their QBs in the face but know they can't. Receivers have talked about this before.
I'm sorry, but if you're expecting athletes to be role models and raise your children, then there are deeper underlying issues here.