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Stadium Sound System and Drunks

Essex : 9/26/2016 10:04 am
My tickets are in 148 and I couldn't hear a word of what the refs were saying and this was not the first time. Spoke to a buddy of mine who was two sections over and they couldn't hear anything either. It was really annoying.

I have gone to the games for 30+ years and am 41, but the amount of people who attend these games simply as an excuse to drink is just astronomical. I am not a down in front guy and I would like to think I am not a get off my lawn type of guy either, but the stadium experience is going downhill. I like to drink moderately just as most do, but if you are going to go to a game simply to get bombed, I would think the local bar would be a better option, cheaper and closer to your home. I don't care if people stand up on third downs or on any play that grabs their attention, but the amount of idiots who stand up in a middle of a play for no reason because they are bombed out of their mind is annoying.

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Plus there are so many ways you can do it as well  
Essex : 9/26/2016 11:49 am : link
First, fix your sound system. If you can't do that, the US Open with a sponser (AMEX) passes out free radios to the people there so they can listen to the broadcast and get the commentary. I am sure a sponser would be willing to do it. The Giants and NFL need to get this right. You want to review every other play, that's your choice, but don't leave the consumer at the game in the blind. Fix it
its not even just the drunks  
UConn4523 : 9/26/2016 11:49 am : link
I can actually deal with that if I was really in love with the rest of it, but sadly i'm not. One of them is the cost; $250+ for crappy seats blows. The other is travel, takes forever to get in/out of a game and means its a full 8 hour day. But the #1 reason is you just have no idea what's going on. Its all meant for TV, and going from that experience to a live setting just can't compare.
RE: I would love to the %  
Greg from LI : 9/26/2016 11:52 am : link
In comment 13143465 dep026 said:
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of people there to tailgate to people who are there for the game. I have a feeling more people like to party than fr football.


Yep, that's Goodell's NFL. They're "growing the game", you see!
I think there are a higher % of a-holes in NY/NJ  
BigBlue in Keys : 9/26/2016 11:53 am : link
Even Giants fans are jerks to other Giants fans at home. Road games seem to all have better fans (outside of Philly). Personally I love the gameday experience. I can get tuned up but also not be an asshole to people around me.


The gameday experience is 100% personal  
aimrocky : 9/26/2016 11:55 am : link
We're in 149 and have sat next to the same group since the stadium opened, and we love it. Going to every game would be tough, since we're coming from CT, but it's really nice getting to 3-4 a year. Watching with a group of die-hards live forces you to pay attention to every play like it's the last. At home, you could easily trail off mentally for a few plays while checking your phone, getting a beer or hearing the wife nag...
You guys really need to find a way to take in an SEC game sometime  
FranknWeezer : 9/26/2016 12:00 pm : link
Not going to get into arguing about conferences and what-not, but I think we get spoiled in the south with fantastic gameday experiences.

As for NFL games, that sucks to hear about the stadium experience at MetLife being so poor. It's one thing to have issues at an 'away' venue, but in your own backyard, so to speak, is a raw deal.

If I had the opportunity to go to Giants games 'locally' like many of you, I think I might cherry-pick non-conference or at least out-of-division games. At least in theory, it seems like there'd be less interest and fewer of the idiots to deal with when, say, the Bucs, Texans, Dolphins come to town.
Wow, I'm surprised at the amount of definitive statements  
aimrocky : 9/26/2016 12:06 pm : link
on this thread. I've sat in other sections besides my own, so I understand what some of you are talking about, but it's absolutely reliant on the group you're sitting with. We got lucky that the group around us is awesome, so being at the stadium is a joy.

The guys to the left of us host a huge tailgate and we have an open invitation all season, so it makes it easy if we do want to party. Otherwise, we'll typically get sandwiches from a deli, bring a cooler and hang out in the lot before we go in. We park far enough away that we avoid much of the traffic going in and out. The nice thing is, it gets me out of the house for a day doing adult things.
If you don't want to  
Metnut : 9/26/2016 12:08 pm : link
get up as people get drinks and go to the bathroom, I'd recommend against getting the aisle seats. People have a right to get up and go to the concourses as often as they want (although they should always wait until commercials to do so).
Also, when Richburg got ejected I couldn't exactly  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/26/2016 12:09 pm : link
hear what was going on, but in general the sound is OK. I think its a referee by referee thing where the mic wasn't on or in the right place or whatever. So what? We knew Richburg was ejected and even if it was for a good reason we booed loudly anyway. It's not a tennis match, and I am biased all the way. Inside the stadium, my team is always right.

I do see people who get up in the middle of a play. Again, that's a function of all the new people going to games. You don't have to get all offended, just explain it to them. Most people are pretty cool if you make your case. If not, then its on them.

And don't get me wrong: I do not like the new stadium. My seats are farther away, getting into and out of the stadium is harder, and the food and traffic issues are not noticeably improved. It's still worth it to go to, but that's me.
I'm also 41, live in North Jersey, and the last game I went to,  
Mr. Bungle : 9/26/2016 12:10 pm : link
the Giants Stadium crowd was chanting "One-more-year! One-more-year!" to Tiki Barber.

And that was a free ticket.

I have zero interest in NFL games and stadium concerts. I can tell too many stories about how the "section drunk" was in the seat directly behind me.
The music is way too loud...  
trueblueinpw : 9/26/2016 12:12 pm : link
Was at the game last week and the music seemed louder than ever. I use my Etymotic headphones to listen to radio broadcast which blocks out most of the ridiculous music and protects my ears. The headphones are effective for comfort, protection and the radio guys tell me what's going on with replays or injuries or whatever. But the headphone make it a bit difficult to talk with my friends and the other people around me. Someone needs to tell the Giants to turn down the music, its ridiculously loud. What's the point of the loud music anyway?

Regarding the drunks, in the 30 plus years I've been going to Giants games, they've always been there. I've thrown back way more than my fair share, but now I'm older and don't drink much at all. As long as people aren't bothering me or the people around me then they can get their lode on. I hope these people aren't driving drunk, though I'm sure they probably are.
I went with my wife last year,  
GiAnT4LYFE : 9/26/2016 12:20 pm : link
Who is an Eagles fan, and a friend who is a Giants fan. It wasn't bad for her. A couple assholes made comments, until they saw us, then acted like pussies when confronted. It happens.
I had gone to the old stadium for over 24 years  
Sec 103 : 9/26/2016 12:28 pm : link
Had a great section of fans in Sec 103, it was almost like a family gathering during most games. Every new season brought new hope and seeing old friends was never a let down. I miss that camaraderie as well as the tailgate parties we had. Out tailgate was always 30 to 35 people and grew now and then to 50+ for pig roasts. Hate to say it but I went to opening day with my son when the new toaster opened and both of us had the same opinions on the stadium and the crowd. Have been back just one other time and doubt that I'll ever go back again. I rather travel at least to one game per year just to experience other cities and stadiums, so far, so good... Otherwise, it's my den and my big screen.
Shitty loss yesterday afternoon.... For chrissakes...
I went to the game yesterday with my 13 year old daughter  
fireitup77 : 9/26/2016 12:37 pm : link
and we had a blast. Sound worked fine in Sec. 331. No obnoxious drunks. No fights.

At halftime we were both able to hit the head and get something to eat. I was amazed that the lines were so short.

I like to watch stuff that happens away from the ball. You can't do that watching on TV.
I've been going to games since 1987  
Matt in SGS : 9/26/2016 12:39 pm : link
and I'm 42, so I'm kind of in your same wheelhouse. What I've noticed over the years is the "knowledgeable" Giants fans that Madden and Summerall used to laud when they did game, has declined. Here is a small example, and it does have to do with the drinking. In the past, fans understood when to get up to get a drink/go to the bathroom/ etc. You used to wait for a play to be over. If you were coming down the aisle, you would actually kneel down and wait for a play to be over, and then make your way in. Now, in the middle of a play, people will just get up and stroll in, no clue that there is action on the field. Drives me insane.
Factor in the time of year  
GIANTS128 : 9/26/2016 12:57 pm : link
Lots of non fans at the game yesterday also. Lots of little kids..etc. Once the cold weather starts you start seeing the more hardcore fans. Also why is everyone buying those soggy nathans fries and overpriced chicken strips. I saw one guy he had about a 60 dollar tray....the Giants love people like that.
RE: I've been going to games since 1987  
Mad Mike : 9/26/2016 1:04 pm : link
In comment 13143644 Matt in SGS said:
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and I'm 42, so I'm kind of in your same wheelhouse. What I've noticed over the years is the "knowledgeable" Giants fans that Madden and Summerall used to laud when they did game, has declined. Here is a small example, and it does have to do with the drinking. In the past, fans understood when to get up to get a drink/go to the bathroom/ etc. You used to wait for a play to be over. If you were coming down the aisle, you would actually kneel down and wait for a play to be over, and then make your way in. Now, in the middle of a play, people will just get up and stroll in, no clue that there is action on the field. Drives me insane.

Yeah, the constant up and down is a drag, and seems quite a bit worse than in the past. Drunkenness and fighting doesn't seem materially different to me than in the past, and, at least in my section, I can hear the refs just fine. It is frustrating that there are more people not really paying attention to the game in front of them, but that just seems to be the way of the world now - it's pretty much that way at every sporting event I go to, not just MetLife.
RE: RE: I've been going to games since 1987  
27 : 9/26/2016 1:21 pm : link
In comment 13143730 Mad Mike said:
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In comment 13143644 Matt in SGS said:


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and I'm 42, so I'm kind of in your same wheelhouse. What I've noticed over the years is the "knowledgeable" Giants fans that Madden and Summerall used to laud when they did game, has declined. Here is a small example, and it does have to do with the drinking. In the past, fans understood when to get up to get a drink/go to the bathroom/ etc. You used to wait for a play to be over. If you were coming down the aisle, you would actually kneel down and wait for a play to be over, and then make your way in. Now, in the middle of a play, people will just get up and stroll in, no clue that there is action on the field. Drives me insane.


Yeah, the constant up and down is a drag, and seems quite a bit worse than in the past. Drunkenness and fighting doesn't seem materially different to me than in the past, and, at least in my section, I can hear the refs just fine. It is frustrating that there are more people not really paying attention to the game in front of them, but that just seems to be the way of the world now - it's pretty much that way at every sporting event I go to, not just MetLife.


I agree with this. The drunkenness and fights in my opinion does not seem any different than it did 15 years ago. The way of the world is different in terms of people not paying as much attention to the game, on their phones, etc. But that doesn't change anywhere. The experience of the game is certainly a lot about who you attend with. I have had very few bad experiences and attend almost every game. And everyone has been a drunk before- there are very few Giants fans in my experience who would respond negatively if asked nicely to change a behavior.

I do miss Giants Stadium and so many of the things that go with it- the rustic feel, the continuity of the people around you if you are a season ticket holder or regular, and a lot of that has been ruined by PSL's/Stubhub over the last several years.

I am not a MetLife apologist- but I will say this. The experience at MetLife is 10x better than the experience of a game at new Yankee Stadium. I have been quite impressed how easily you can make a bathroom trip or get beers/food at MetLife. You can make very trip concession or bathroom trips, even at halftime. This has gotten better over the years, while at Yankee Stadium it's a 2-3 inning commitment if you want to eat or get a new beer. It's absolutely absurd.

Like was said above, early September games are a bit different. As the season goes on, less social-event crowd fans are at the games and the more hardcore fans fill the seats. Hopefully this team will still be competitive this year by then...
if the NFL  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/26/2016 1:25 pm : link
ever evolved to where I could watch a TV feed that also showed an "all-22" view, I'm not sure I'd ever go to a Giants game unless I had amazing tickets for free or a suite for free.
RE: Plus there are so many ways you can do it as well  
giantsfan227B : 9/26/2016 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13143505 Essex said:
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First, fix your sound system. If you can't do that, the US Open with a sponser (AMEX) passes out free radios to the people there so they can listen to the broadcast and get the commentary. I am sure a sponser would be willing to do it. The Giants and NFL need to get this right. You want to review every other play, that's your choice, but don't leave the consumer at the game in the blind. Fix it


Actually, I never thought of this. That is a great idea. My wife and friends went to the US Open. I just figured the broadcast would be delayed from the live action but they said it was synced up. At the very least send it to the season ticket holders. I would have love to have heard either Bob Papa or even the Fox telecast when calls were challenged and they go to Mike Perriera for his perspective.

I had received an email from the team last week to fill out a survey. I filled it out this week and put my thoughts down as to the Skins game and the sound system, drinking etc.. I also think with 4 screens they can do a much better job with Red Zone. Don't need sound but why not play it continuously and the other screen has game highlights and stats. Make the game as similar to being at home as possible.
pjcas18  
Tuckrule : 9/26/2016 3:59 pm : link
okay dude....ill offer you 50 yard line seats club level and your going to turn that down im sure of it. The fact that people complain about fan behavior is comical. Its 80k people of course you will get people who are interested and some not. Some there for the game and others there for the social aspect. Your very cool saying you would never go to a game. True fan. You sound die hard my man
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