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okiegiant : 9/26/2016 8:32 pm
If you're up to football and not wanting to stomach the debates.

I just want to hear who Gruden loves tonight!
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That win (and a close one at that, at home)  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/26/2016 9:59 pm : link
against the Saints looking alittle less impressive.

Ugh.
It's week 4  
Sonic Youth : 9/26/2016 10:01 pm : link
We are Giants fans. Did we look good in week 4 in '11? in '07? how often does the team that looks best in week 4 win the 'ship?

Relax guys
NO is down even more defenders  
UConn4523 : 9/26/2016 10:02 pm : link
and doesn't have Snead. Our win was a good one, against a team that usually owned us. Sure, it wasn't in a dome, but it wasn't in the winter either.
Atlanta  
bignygfan : 9/26/2016 10:02 pm : link
may get 600 yards of offense tonight
OK I am gonna switch  
bignygfan : 9/26/2016 10:05 pm : link
now and watch some of that which shall not be named on this site.
RE: NO is down even more defenders  
Cruzin : 9/26/2016 10:08 pm : link
In comment 13144821 UConn4523 said:
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and doesn't have Snead. Our win was a good one, against a team that usually owned us. Sure, it wasn't in a dome, but it wasn't in the winter either.


Hey, a win is a win but it certainly showed our limitations on offense. Keep moving forward, Minny s next, any idea how we are going to score more than 3 points?
Yeah, by throwing the football  
UConn4523 : 9/26/2016 10:14 pm : link
this isn't the 2000 Ravens. No idea if we win or lose, but I'd almost swear we are the SCLSU mud dogs playing Alabama.
RE: RE: NO is down even more defenders  
Sonic Youth : 9/26/2016 10:15 pm : link
In comment 13144825 Cruzin said:
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In comment 13144821 UConn4523 said:


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and doesn't have Snead. Our win was a good one, against a team that usually owned us. Sure, it wasn't in a dome, but it wasn't in the winter either.



Hey, a win is a win but it certainly showed our limitations on offense. Keep moving forward, Minny s next, any idea how we are going to score more than 3 points?
We moved the ball pretty well. We turned the ball over. Comparing 2013 to 2016, do you really think this offense is that inept?
RE: Yeah, by throwing the football  
Sonic Youth : 9/26/2016 10:15 pm : link
In comment 13144834 UConn4523 said:
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this isn't the 2000 Ravens. No idea if we win or lose, but I'd almost swear we are the SCLSU mud dogs playing Alabama.
Fantastic reference lol
I think you guys are a little mixed up  
Cruzin : 9/26/2016 10:19 pm : link

Minny s the 2000 Ravens with a better game manager than Trent Dilfer.

I don't care if we win or lose this week as long as Eli comes out of it still alive.
RE: Make Monday Night Football Great Again  
timintey : 9/26/2016 10:24 pm : link
In comment 13144789 Cruzin said:
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Bring in Eric Kasilias ( I know I spelled that wrong), trickle down could be a good thing, let's get the right guy in the right place!

Eric deserves a shot.

Only if it means we get Holly Sonders as the sideline reporter...
And the Giants couldn't score one offensive TD  
Rflairr : 9/26/2016 10:25 pm : link
against this team. Jeesh
Can they score 60?  
bignygfan : 9/26/2016 10:26 pm : link
It's possible
RE: I think you guys are a little mixed up  
okiegiant : 9/26/2016 10:29 pm : link
In comment 13144839 Cruzin said:
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Minny s the 2000 Ravens with a better game manager than Trent Dilfer.

I don't care if we win or lose this week as long as Eli comes out of it still alive.


Suddenly Minnesota is better than night baseball. Next week people will be wetting their pants about the Pack. Geez, let the games play out before you give up.
The Saints are..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/26/2016 10:30 pm : link
getting crushed and all Gruden can do is marvel at how great their offense is
BTW  
Cruzin : 9/26/2016 10:31 pm : link

I coined the "2000 Ravens with a better game manager than Trent DIlfer" reference last week, I'm sure it's around somewhere in my recent activity.

Sam Bradford could realistically be the second worst QB to win a Super Bowl, that's how good Minnesota is this year. They have all the pieces necessary.

I hope Eli rises to the occasion, i hope OBJ shows the world he's the best weapon in football, I hope all the money we spent on defense proves better than Minnys.

But

I haven't seen anything that would lead to a logical optimistic outlook yet, call me fickle...
The Vikings have an absurdly long way to go  
UConn4523 : 9/26/2016 10:33 pm : link
to be the 2000 Ravens. They are a really good defense, but I'm going to hold off on the rest. I guess Eli should sit this one out, apparently we have no chance and his own life is on the line.
This is like an Arena League game  
HomerJones45 : 9/26/2016 10:34 pm : link
50-45 is entirely possibles
Comparing any recent defense to the 2000 Ravens...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2016 10:36 pm : link
Is a little silly. I will say Bradford has more athletic talent than Dilfer ever dreamed of.
Is Sean Payton stll yelling at Rob Ryan?  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/26/2016 10:40 pm : link
Or is he going to blame Spags?
RE: The Vikings have an absurdly long way to go  
Cruzin : 9/26/2016 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13144862 UConn4523 said:
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to be the 2000 Ravens. They are a really good defense, but I'm going to hold off on the rest. I guess Eli should sit this one out, apparently we have no chance and his own life is on the line.


True, but we have no backup, Chuck and duck and hope OBJ runs underneath it occasionally. It's only Monday, maybe Eli will get the flu by Friday...
RE: Comparing any recent defense to the 2000 Ravens...  
Cruzin : 9/26/2016 10:48 pm : link
In comment 13144867 okiegiant said:
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Is a little silly. I will say Bradford has more athletic talent than Dilfer ever dreamed of.


They just beat the best 2 QBs in the NFL not named Tom Brady in back to back weeks, you have a conclusion better than mine?

I'd love to hear it.
....  
yankees78 : 9/26/2016 11:02 pm : link
So I see this game is a lil nutty
Looks like the Giants-Saints game from last year  
jeff57 : 9/26/2016 11:04 pm : link
No defense.
What will it take..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/26/2016 11:11 pm : link
for Gruden not to say he loves a player?
RE: What will it take..  
dep026 : 9/26/2016 11:14 pm : link
In comment 13144892 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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for Gruden not to say he loves a player?


Duct tape his mouth?
No pick  
Cruzin : 9/26/2016 11:16 pm : link
Review it
So winning 2 games means you're the 2000 Ravens...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2016 11:18 pm : link
This really has become a what have you done for me lately league.
no cooks  
dep026 : 9/26/2016 11:18 pm : link
no picks.

Please?
I need 2 more pts to win in one of my FF leagues...  
EricJ : 9/26/2016 11:20 pm : link
and I have Brees, Ingram and Julio.

WTF happened to Julio tonight?
And I'm not saying the Vikes defense isn't very good...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2016 11:22 pm : link
I just don't think they're the 2000 Ravens.
Even brees sneaks it  
Tuckrule : 9/26/2016 11:22 pm : link
..
RE: So winning 2 games means you're the 2000 Ravens...  
Cruzin : 9/26/2016 11:25 pm : link
In comment 13144900 okiegiant said:
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This really has become a what have you done for me lately league.


Any insight? A good reason against Minny's performance thus far? Anything besides a weak attempt at a generalization to try and save face?

I'd really like to hear the case against Minny, do you have anything. I'll wait.


Please run the clock out  
dep026 : 9/26/2016 11:28 pm : link
please run the clock out.

This would be the great regualr season win for me in fantasy history. Cooks laying an egg and Brees going off might give me a 2.5 point win!!!
A weak attempt at generalization to save face...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2016 11:33 pm : link
Okay, the Vikings are not as good as the 2000 Ravens despite your deciding this to be after 3 whole games. Is this specific enough for you?

Can you name 6 starters on the Vikings without looking it up? I can. Have you seen them play this year? I have.

You have a hard on for the Vikings and are about to wet yourself over the Giants playing them. I get this...you're a whiner who is ready to give up at the drop of the hat, but it doesn't make you right when it comes to defense.

The Giants may lose...they just lost to Washington, hell, they might get blown out, but no matter how you slice it the Vikes are not the 2000 Ravens.
Now you tell me...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2016 11:36 pm : link
Without vague generalizations and 3 whole games of a season why the Vikings are as good as the Ravens.

I'll wait.
RE: A weak attempt at generalization to save face...  
Cruzin : 9/26/2016 11:36 pm : link
In comment 13144915 okiegiant said:
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Okay, the Vikings are not as good as the 2000 Ravens despite your deciding this to be after 3 whole games. Is this specific enough for you?

Can you name 6 starters on the Vikings without looking it up? I can. Have you seen them play this year? I have.

You have a hard on for the Vikings and are about to wet yourself over the Giants playing them. I get this...you're a whiner who is ready to give up at the drop of the hat, but it doesn't make you right when it comes to defense.

The Giants may lose...they just lost to Washington, hell, they might get blown out, but no matter how you slice it the Vikes are not the 2000 Ravens.


Sendejo, Diggs, McKinnon, Bradford, Hendricks, Rudolph

Still waiting...
For starters...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/26/2016 11:37 pm : link
the Ravens had Jamal Lewis who was a beast in 2000. The Vikings are averaging under 3 yards a carry.
I am too...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2016 11:43 pm : link
Wait, they did finish the top ranked defense last year...oh wait, they didn't

Oh well, they have the topped ranked defense so far this year...oh wait they don't.

So why, without generalizations why are they better. Right, you can't say. You just throw crap out and hope it sticks. If the Giants get crushed you'll be the first to post I told you, but if the Vikings lose you'll be nowhere to be found. I get it.
I can't believe I've actually wasted time...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2016 11:44 pm : link
On a multiple handle poster.

At least the game was entertaining.
That's a real answer FatMan  
Cruzin : 9/26/2016 11:45 pm : link

I would counter with they just lost Adrian Peterson who might be a little better than Jamal Lewis was.

No offense okie, I'm looking for insight, not homerism. Do a little research and get back to me tomorrow.
RE: I can't believe I've actually wasted time...  
Cruzin : 9/26/2016 11:48 pm : link
In comment 13144924 okiegiant said:
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On a multiple handle poster.

At least the game was entertaining.


Actually, you wasted my time because you can't offer anything of value. That's ok okie, you're outmatched and you had no way of knowing. Take it as a challenge and watch a Vikings game, I've seen all 3 multiple times.

We're in trouble.
Research is above...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2016 11:50 pm : link
Why are the Vikes better? Simple question. I'm many things but a homer isn't one of them. I know the Giants faults. I don't make myself feel better about the Giants by tearing other teams down.

You threw the saving face line out there and now you're trying to walk away.

Answer the question...why do you believe the 2016 Vikings are better than the 2000 Ravens. And give me more than they won the last 3 games.
Right, outmatched....  
okiegiant : 9/26/2016 11:52 pm : link
You going to answer or what? Besides your own slanted opinion why are they better. Give me match ups, personal, give me something.
Side note, I've watched the Vikes...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2016 11:54 pm : link
You have no reading comprehension, apparently. They are a very solid team...just a little short of the 2000 Ravens, though.
How  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/26/2016 11:56 pm : link
...in the fuck did Rashad Jennings average only 2 yards a carry against this team?!?
Night night okie  
Cruzin : 9/26/2016 11:56 pm : link

Save you banter for the General BBI population. I'll call on the smarter posters tomorrow and we might both learn something.

Honestly, nothing personal.
RE: Night night okie  
okiegiant : 9/27/2016 12:00 am : link
In comment 13144942 Cruzin said:
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Save you banter for the General BBI population. I'll call on the smarter posters tomorrow and we might both learn something.

Honestly, nothing personal.


Ha! Save face, my friend. When you can't answer just walk away.
you're right okie  
Cruzin : 9/27/2016 12:04 am : link

I was distracted trying to figure out how many face lifts Kellyanne had to create that permanent smile.

Have a good night...
how about Gruden calling Brees "the hardest working Saints player  
Victor in CT : 9/27/2016 3:22 pm : link
EVER"?

Wonder what Archie Manning, Pat Swilling, Bobby Hebert, Sam Mills and countless others think about that?
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