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pjcas18 : 9/27/2016 8:35 am
Had this trade proposed to me, from a guy I'd been trying to trade with for a while.

I give:

P. Rivers
A. Cooper
S. Watkins
D. Pitta

I get:

Eli
S. Shepard
L. McCoy
T. Eifert

I think I upgrade everywhere except Cooper.


My team would be Giants heavy, but I can live with that.

Here is what I'd have in 12-team PPR:

QB: Eli/Prescott
RB: Gurley, McCoy, Yeldon, Howard, Dixon, Drake
WR: Beckham, Shepard, Landry, Eifert (no TE), M. Thomas, T. Williams, V. Cruz

Can't stand dealing with Watkins game to game status and Eli is an upgrade over Rivers I think. Plus McCoy helps me at RB and Eifert isn't far away.
I'd rather have Pitta than Eifert in a PPR  
YAJ2112 : 9/27/2016 8:39 am : link
that said, I do think you come out ahead in this trade.

But you really need to do another deal with one of OBJ/Shepard, you're limiting your upside by having 2 WRs from the same team in your lineup.... and creating a crater of a floor whenever the Giants O has a bad week.
RE: I'd rather have Pitta than Eifert in a PPR  
pjcas18 : 9/27/2016 8:41 am : link
In comment 13145068 YAJ2112 said:
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that said, I do think you come out ahead in this trade.

But you really need to do another deal with one of OBJ/Shepard, you're limiting your upside by having 2 WRs from the same team in your lineup.... and creating a crater of a floor whenever the Giants O has a bad week.


Yeah, I'm going to trade Beckham, I've got a few offers for him and I think he had good value. Hate to do it, but it will make my team better.

Looking to get Allen Robinson + for him.
It all depends on what you think of Landy  
superspynyg : 9/27/2016 8:42 am : link
Is he a solid #2 going forward? I would not start OBJ and Sheppard on the same fantasy team.

McCoy is a def upgrade.
Landry  
pjcas18 : 9/27/2016 8:46 am : link
is definitely a #2 WR in ppr.

if you have another trade lined up  
UConn4523 : 9/27/2016 8:48 am : link
go for it. I also don't think its necessarily a bad thing to have 2 WR's from the same team as long as its the right team, which in this case it should be. It was the same with Jones/White, Thomas/Sanders, and a handful of others over the years.

I thankfully squeaked out a win this week, sitting at 3-0 with most points scored which was my goal to start the season. BYE weeks are erratic and I wanted as many wins as possible before they start because anything can happen.

I'm thinking about dropping Langford for a waiver pickup this week since he does nothing for me sitting on the bench for 4-6 weeks only to come back in a timeshare anyway. The question is, who to take? I'm thinking Pryor as the next best guy available is Darkwa but our schedule sucks and Jennings should be back.
if Beckham/Shepard  
UConn4523 : 9/27/2016 8:52 am : link
are getting you 12/200/1 every week (I know it isn't a guarantee, but its currently happening, give or take, without Beckham blowing up), that isn't a bad thing. That's 32 points in a .5 PPR which I'd take every single week from my top 2 WR's. In my league you need 13.3 points per player to hit 120 points, which should win you most weeks, especially during BYEs. There's only 4 teams averaging over 120 points per week in my league and they are the top 4 teams in the standings.
I dropped Langford  
pjcas18 : 9/27/2016 8:55 am : link
last week during waiver claims and he became a FA before the games, the team I played picked him up and put him in his lineup and taunted me before the games.

Langford did very little, as expected. Those 4.6 points were not a difference maker since for once I won in a blowout, but still felt good.
I know it's very early  
pjcas18 : 9/27/2016 8:58 am : link
but Shepard is ranked #15 and Beckham #25 in my league.

I'd start both, but I think I can turn Beckham into a borderline 1/2 WR and a border line 1/2 RB.
Remember reading lots of posts  
giantsfan44ab : 9/27/2016 10:26 am : link
Yesterday talking about how they or their opponents had Brees/Julio/cooks/Freeman. Wonder how that worked out. Cooks and Julio shat the bed whereas Freeman/Coleman/Ingram carried the load. Idk who expected a duel of RBs but that's what happened.
RE: Landry  
GuzzaBlue : 9/27/2016 10:27 am : link
In comment 13145077 pjcas18 said:
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is definitely a #2 WR in ppr.


Definitely without a doubt in a 12 team PPR. He's a WR2 in a 10 team non-PPR league.
Waiver wire question....  
GuzzaBlue : 9/27/2016 10:32 am : link
I have the #1 spot this week and Jordan Howard is out there. My RB's are L. Miller, J. Charles, Ware, and Dwayne Washington. Should I use the #1 and move to the back? Wouldn't even really need Howard this week, but more of a backup/uspide play. I have stacked receivers which I play 4 (one is the slot).

I'd also drop Dorsett and pickup Dixon. Carrying 7 receivers right now (Robinson, Cooper, M. Jones, K. White, J. Gordon, Moncreif and Dorsett.
Didn't Gordon  
pjcas18 : 9/27/2016 10:36 am : link
have a warrant for his arrest? I think it was for a child support thing, but will it impact his NFL reinstatement?
Guzza  
beatrixkiddo : 9/27/2016 10:37 am : link
If you don't use your waiver priority and can stay at the top, I would stay there for now. If your going to lose it, that's the only reason I say I would nab Howard. Otherwise, it's really not worth it.

In my league the waiver priority is dependent on how many claims you make, so if your #1 and get that claim, you move to the end of the list after that. With 14 teams, you need to be careful with the claims you make. I am currently at 5 and not making a move until I absolutely need to.

You seem to have a deep bench, and I agree Howard isn't going to start over any of your other players right now so its not worth it to me.
Gordon complied with the DNA test Warrant  
beatrixkiddo : 9/27/2016 10:37 am : link
It wont affect his suspension, he is scheduled to come back next week.
I cant believe I won this week  
dep026 : 9/27/2016 10:40 am : link
started Gronk and we know how that went. Miller got me a little, same with Forte. Bailey missed a FG and sat the Chiefs defense. And he had Tannenhill, David Johnson, and Allen Robinson. However the rest of his team like cooks, sims, tyrell williams, cobb, and carolina defenses laid absolute eggs.

Landry, Beckham, Ravens defense, and Brees carried me to a 2 point win. Sititng at 3-0 but hurting roster wise.

I have to start this week

Brees
Miller, Forte
Landry, Beckham (against Minny), and either Gronk or Pryor
My flex as of now is Howard

Some bad matchups there as well.
If Gordon comes back next week  
pjcas18 : 9/27/2016 10:41 am : link
how much impact does anyone think it will have on Tyrelle Pryor?

I have a waiver claim in for Pryor, in my FAAB waiver league, just not sure if I should lower the amount with Gordon coming back.
RE: Remember reading lots of posts  
UConn4523 : 9/27/2016 10:43 am : link
In comment 13145219 giantsfan44ab said:
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Yesterday talking about how they or their opponents had Brees/Julio/cooks/Freeman. Wonder how that worked out. Cooks and Julio shat the bed whereas Freeman/Coleman/Ingram carried the load. Idk who expected a duel of RBs but that's what happened.
.

I sat Snead and went into Monday night up 30 against Julio. Him blowing up for 10/150/2 was a big fear, especially without Vaccaro. Glad he put up a dud.
Made this trade yesterday. What do you guys think?  
Giants Fan in Steelers Land : 9/27/2016 10:43 am : link
1/2 ppr 10 team league:

Melvin Gordon
John brown

For

Alshon
Latavius Murray

Wasnt feeling great about both players especially Murray losing a lot of carries. Love Gordon's outlook moving forward. I have green Marvin jones Shepard and Crabtree so I feel good about the position and brown has some upside as the season goes on.
RE: Made this trade yesterday. What do you guys think?  
EricJ : 9/27/2016 10:58 am : link
In comment 13145262 Giants Fan in Steelers Land said:
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1/2 ppr 10 team league:

Melvin Gordon
John brown

For

Alshon
Latavius Murray

Wasnt feeling great about both players especially Murray losing a lot of carries. Love Gordon's outlook moving forward. I have green Marvin jones Shepard and Crabtree so I feel good about the position and brown has some upside as the season goes on.


If you were receiving Alshon and Latavius then I am not liking that too much
RE: Guzza  
GuzzaBlue : 9/27/2016 11:10 am : link
In comment 13145242 beatrixkiddo said:
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If you don't use your waiver priority and can stay at the top, I would stay there for now. If your going to lose it, that's the only reason I say I would nab Howard. Otherwise, it's really not worth it.

In my league the waiver priority is dependent on how many claims you make, so if your #1 and get that claim, you move to the end of the list after that. With 14 teams, you need to be careful with the claims you make. I am currently at 5 and not making a move until I absolutely need to.

You seem to have a deep bench, and I agree Howard isn't going to start over any of your other players right now so its not worth it to me.


Thanks beatrix. As your league, its a continuous line, so I'd move to the end. I was thinking the same thing. I do need another backup RB. I'm thinking Dixon is a nice stash for now. I'd like to save my #1 waiver for a playoff run or absolute must-add later in the year.
RE: Remember reading lots of posts  
VenteSette : 9/27/2016 11:27 am : link
In comment 13145219 giantsfan44ab said:
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Yesterday talking about how they or their opponents had Brees/Julio/cooks/Freeman. Wonder how that worked out. Cooks and Julio shat the bed whereas Freeman/Coleman/Ingram carried the load. Idk who expected a duel of RBs but that's what happened.


I was down 18 (thanks Gronk, Kelvin & Hopkins) going into the game with Cooks and Ingram going against nobody. They put up 20.6 and I won with a pathetic score. Thank God I traded for Ingram. 3-0 baby.

My buddy had Freeman and Fleener going against Brees and he ended up losing by 7. Poor bastard sat Tyrod Taylor for Mariota. Probably my fault. I didn't think the Cards D would crap out like that.
EricJ, my post was pretty unclear.  
Giants Fan in Steelers Land : 9/27/2016 12:03 pm : link
I received Melvin Gordon
RE: EricJ, my post was pretty unclear.  
EricJ : 9/27/2016 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13145373 Giants Fan in Steelers Land said:
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I received Melvin Gordon


much better !
PPR league  
pjcas18 : 9/27/2016 12:46 pm : link
would you do this:

I send:
Sammy Watkins
Jordan Howard

I get:
Kelvin Benjamin
Rashad Jennings

RE: PPR league  
UConn4523 : 9/27/2016 1:05 pm : link
In comment 13145453 pjcas18 said:
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would you do this:

I send:
Sammy Watkins
Jordan Howard

I get:
Kelvin Benjamin
Rashad Jennings


I would because you get the best player (Benjamin) and who knows if Howard will even be worth a weekly start in that offense (outside of a bye week filler). Jennings can have more value without Vereen, and if healthy he's a better weekly play than Howard (outside of bad matchups).
Question:  
Mr. Bungle : 9/27/2016 1:07 pm : link
Who would you rather have the rest of the year in a non-PPR league -- Carlos Hyde or Tevin Coleman?
RE: Question:  
pjcas18 : 9/27/2016 1:09 pm : link
In comment 13145501 Mr. Bungle said:
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Who would you rather have the rest of the year in a non-PPR league -- Carlos Hyde or Tevin Coleman?


Hyde. No threat to carries other than injury and Kaepernick is not long for the bench there if you read between the lines of Chip Kelly's comments yesterday and while I don't think Kaepernick is great, he's better for the offense than Gabbert IMO.
I got a split answer yesterday  
giantsfan44ab : 9/27/2016 1:33 pm : link
But would anyone do Blount for Doug Martin? I think the consensus was no for sending Marshall for Martin. I have Sims as well. As of now I'm starting Howard over Marshall. I also have Evans Cooks and Ty Williams at receiver.
RE: I got a split answer yesterday  
VenteSette : 9/27/2016 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13145532 giantsfan44ab said:
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But would anyone do Blount for Doug Martin? I think the consensus was no for sending Marshall for Martin. I have Sims as well. As of now I'm starting Howard over Marshall. I also have Evans Cooks and Ty Williams at receiver.


Are you talking about Brandon Marshall? How are you starting a back for BMarsh?

Martin is going to be a bad play for a bit. He is actually on waivers in my 10 team idiot league. Tampa's next 3 weeks are Denver, Carolina and the bye, so the earliest expected play will be SF in four weeks. I read him as missing 3 weeks, so I wouldn't even expect him back until after the bye. Hamstring injuries tend to linger.

Blount will probably get you some more scoring. Maybe his opportunities will drop some, but Pats scoring will only go up.
i'm not sold on Martin  
UConn4523 : 9/27/2016 2:31 pm : link
A. being good when he gets back and B. having a full load of touches. Sims is playing really well and just seems to have that gear and want that Martin hasn't shown. I wouldn't trade any starter for Doug Martin and potentially some of my backups as well.
RE: i'm not sold on Martin  
giantsfan44ab : 9/27/2016 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13145591 UConn4523 said:
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A. being good when he gets back and B. having a full load of touches. Sims is playing really well and just seems to have that gear and want that Martin hasn't shown. I wouldn't trade any starter for Doug Martin and potentially some of my backups as well.


Do you consider Blount a starter though with Brady back? I have Sims on my roster so I would lock in the Bucs backfield going forward.

RE: RE: I got a split answer yesterday  
giantsfan44ab : 9/27/2016 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13145588 VenteSette said:
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In comment 13145532 giantsfan44ab said:


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But would anyone do Blount for Doug Martin? I think the consensus was no for sending Marshall for Martin. I have Sims as well. As of now I'm starting Howard over Marshall. I also have Evans Cooks and Ty Williams at receiver.



Are you talking about Brandon Marshall? How are you starting a back for BMarsh?

Martin is going to be a bad play for a bit. He is actually on waivers in my 10 team idiot league. Tampa's next 3 weeks are Denver, Carolina and the bye, so the earliest expected play will be SF in four weeks. I read him as missing 3 weeks, so I wouldn't even expect him back until after the bye. Hamstring injuries tend to linger.

Blount will probably get you some more scoring. Maybe his opportunities will drop some, but Pats scoring will only go up.


I started Blount for Marshall this past week and I don't have regrets about that. Marshall is playing against the Hawks on the road and Howard is going against detroit at home with the other 2 Chicago backs likely out. I feel like its the safer play for the next few weeks. Marshall faces the Cards the next week. I think Howard will outscore Marshall over the next two weeks or so.
I actually just went in the other direction  
giantsfan44ab : 9/27/2016 2:49 pm : link
and offered him Sims Marshall and Tyrelle Williams for Deandre Hopkins. Idk if he would do that but I think that may be too much on my end, no?

I hate this part of the season for trading. Everyone is in full overreaction. I know as sure hell I'm not going to get full value for Marshall but at the same time I'm probably going to get maximum value for Blount, but everyone has the stigma about him when Brady returns which is fair. But everyone in my league acts like he's completely useless with Brady.

Was talking to my friend about getting Dtom and he told me he thinks hes going to replicate last year's numbers, which hes already on way too slow of a pace to get 105 catches.
Blount is still a starter with Brady back  
UConn4523 : 9/27/2016 2:51 pm : link
if anything they should be in the RZ a lot more. The question is really if/when Lewis gets back. That said, he plays for the Patriots and good luck with that on a week to week basis. I still wouldn't want to deal with Martin either, if that counts for anything.
RE: Blount is still a starter with Brady back  
giantsfan44ab : 9/27/2016 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13145623 UConn4523 said:
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if anything they should be in the RZ a lot more. The question is really if/when Lewis gets back. That said, he plays for the Patriots and good luck with that on a week to week basis. I still wouldn't want to deal with Martin either, if that counts for anything.


True, but then should I be in the market to deal Sims? I don't think I'd play him against Denver or Carolina. And if Martin comes back I dont know if I would feel comfortable using him even in bye weeks. I feel like he's worth alot more to the Martin owner than to me.
I really can't say  
UConn4523 : 9/27/2016 2:58 pm : link
hard to fully assess without knowing every detail (your team, standings, scoring, etc). For example, I wouldn't accept that Hopkins deal if I had Hopkins, but that also depends on how else is on my roster.
RE: I really can't say  
giantsfan44ab : 9/27/2016 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13145633 UConn4523 said:
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hard to fully assess without knowing every detail (your team, standings, scoring, etc). For example, I wouldn't accept that Hopkins deal if I had Hopkins, but that also depends on how else is on my roster.


10 team, standard. I'm 3-0, 2nd in scoring. Had a bum week, was 2nd to last in scoring but lucked out and played the worst team in the league.

My team:
Wilson/Carr
RB: CJ, Blount, Howard, Deangelo, Sims. Vereen/Asiata both who im dropping.
WR: Evans, Cooks, Marshall, Ty williams
TE: Reed

His team:
Cam
WR: Jordy, Hopkins, Edelman, Jordan Matthews
RB: Gore, Michael, Martin, Gio, Ajayi, Riddick
TE: Walker/Bennett

I think he has one of the top 3 teams in the league. IF anything I would think he would be worrying about his RBs, not sure if he wants Gore as a starter. So I guess Sims would handcuff Martin. But looking at his team in detail he would probably want to package up players rather than add depth, which leads me back to thinking he'd probably want to offload Martin more than taking Sims. Idk if I would want to part with anyone besides Sims and Ty williams from my bench.
He also has Deandre Washington  
giantsfan44ab : 9/27/2016 3:18 pm : link
Would u trade SIms for washington or jordan matthews straight up?
Sorry for the constant reposting.  
giantsfan44ab : 9/27/2016 3:20 pm : link
Just have ideas flowing to me.

so Sims for Washington or J Matthews

or Sims and Blount for Christine Michael?
I would for Jordan Matthews  
UConn4523 : 9/27/2016 4:24 pm : link
he had a light game this past week, but they were also up big and just kept running. Still nabbed a TD though.

I wouldn't trade Sims for Washington though. Sims + Blount is a good deal, especially if you think Rawls' injury is worse than they say (which it has been to date).
owning Freeman  
santacruzom : 9/27/2016 5:37 pm : link
is going to be one hell of a roller coaster ride! His final garbage time gain led me to a two point victory.
Would any of you guys drop Ivory for Pryor?  
arcarsenal : 9/27/2016 7:04 pm : link
I'm off to a great start in my 10 team league and don't even have Brady yet.. 2nd place and 2nd most points.. just dropped 200 points this week.

Ryan, Brady
Forte, McCoy, Mathews, Sims, Ivory, Dwayne Washington
Julio, Evans, Marvin Jones Jr, Snead, Smith Sr
Reed, Eifert
Bailey
NE D/ST

I feel like with Washington's role expected to grow and the emergence of Sims, I can kind of afford to let go of Ivory. Or should I just stand pat?
RE: Would any of you guys drop Ivory for Pryor?  
giantsfan44ab : 9/27/2016 8:20 pm : link
In comment 13145875 arcarsenal said:
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I'm off to a great start in my 10 team league and don't even have Brady yet.. 2nd place and 2nd most points.. just dropped 200 points this week.

Ryan, Brady
Forte, McCoy, Mathews, Sims, Ivory, Dwayne Washington
Julio, Evans, Marvin Jones Jr, Snead, Smith Sr
Reed, Eifert
Bailey
NE D/ST

I feel like with Washington's role expected to grow and the emergence of Sims, I can kind of afford to let go of Ivory. Or should I just stand pat?


Wow that team is loaded. I would stand pat though. I feel like Ivory might actually have the most upside. Yeldon hasn't been all that great. As the season rolls on you may have more suitors for RB depth (although unless whoever has Brown wants to trade him in desperation to you I dont see why you would make a trade).
You're probably right..  
arcarsenal : 9/27/2016 10:39 pm : link
RB's are tougher to get a hold of, in a 10 team league I can always find a decent WR on the wire somewhere if I need. Ivory should come around. I'm always just trying to make moves but I really don't need to in this particular league right now,
One more question  
dep026 : 9/27/2016 10:50 pm : link
PPR league, no TE.

I am starting
Brees
Forte, Miller
OBJ, Landry
Howard

I need 1 more WR. Do I risk it with Gronk or pick up Beasley off the waiver wire?
RE: One more question  
giantsfan44ab : 9/28/2016 1:03 am : link
In comment 13146163 dep026 said:
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PPR league, no TE.

I am starting
Brees
Forte, Miller
OBJ, Landry
Howard

I need 1 more WR. Do I risk it with Gronk or pick up Beasley off the waiver wire?


Sorry if this is too late dep. I would play it safe with Beasley. Not sure who you are going to have to drop in order to do so. Don't think it's the worst thing to start Gronk tho.
RE: You're probably right..  
YAJ2112 : 9/28/2016 8:14 am : link
In comment 13146146 arcarsenal said:
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RB's are tougher to get a hold of, in a 10 team league I can always find a decent WR on the wire somewhere if I need. Ivory should come around. I'm always just trying to make moves but I really don't need to in this particular league right now,


I'd hate to drop Ivory, but I think I might for Pryor. Pryor's current role is making him a must start in any league, and until it changes I'd want him in my lineup regardless.
I way underbid on Pryor  
pjcas18 : 9/28/2016 8:27 am : link
Our FAAB was $200 to start the season, and someone bid $26 for Pryor. I bid $11.

Still not sure how to value players and we're just getting into the bye weeks. I have $180 left, but with never doing a FAAB league I didn't want to get caught later in the season being easily outbid.

Probably should have big higher. Hindsight.
LOL.. forget Pryor...  
arcarsenal : 9/28/2016 9:16 am : link
Someone bid $30 for him and we only have $100 budgets. No thanks!
It's the right move  
pjcas18 : 9/28/2016 9:19 am : link
this week to start TY Hilton @JAX over Dez Bryant @SF right?

I'm thinking with the potential knee injury and the fact his QB doesn't throw that much downfield, makes Hilton a better play. Plus with Moncrief out it seems Luck remembered who his best receiver is.

My other WR's are Allen Robinson and Marvin Jones (flex).

RE: LOL.. forget Pryor...  
YAJ2112 : 9/28/2016 9:19 am : link
In comment 13146340 arcarsenal said:
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Someone bid $30 for him and we only have $100 budgets. No thanks!


If he's going to start for you for the next 13 weeks, $30 isn't that bad a price
RE: It's the right move  
YAJ2112 : 9/28/2016 9:20 am : link
In comment 13146347 pjcas18 said:
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this week to start TY Hilton @JAX over Dez Bryant @SF right?

I'm thinking with the potential knee injury and the fact his QB doesn't throw that much downfield, makes Hilton a better play. Plus with Moncrief out it seems Luck remembered who his best receiver is.

My other WR's are Allen Robinson and Marvin Jones (flex).


Yeah, I'd start Hilton over Dez this week. Any word on Dez' MRI?
RE: It's the right move  
UConn4523 : 9/28/2016 9:23 am : link
In comment 13146347 pjcas18 said:
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this week to start TY Hilton @JAX over Dez Bryant @SF right?

I'm thinking with the potential knee injury and the fact his QB doesn't throw that much downfield, makes Hilton a better play. Plus with Moncrief out it seems Luck remembered who his best receiver is.

My other WR's are Allen Robinson and Marvin Jones (flex).


I probably would. Hilton is a legit WR so its not that much of a stretch. Dez can't be trusted on a week to week basis even before the injury. There's no reason for any team not to double him and live with the underneath stuff to Beasley an Co. Also, you will have the benefit of starting Robinson and Hilton and hope for a defenseless game.
RE: RE: LOL.. forget Pryor...  
arcarsenal : 9/28/2016 9:23 am : link
In comment 13146350 YAJ2112 said:
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In comment 13146340 arcarsenal said:


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Someone bid $30 for him and we only have $100 budgets. No thanks!



If he's going to start for you for the next 13 weeks, $30 isn't that bad a price


Well the team that picked him up has Maclin, Sanders, Baldwin and Hilton already in addition to DeSean Jackson, Crowder and VJax.. so I don't how often he'll even have a spot for him. It's not like he was desperate for WR's.. his RB's are pretty bad.. he has Elliott and not a whole lot else.
RE: RE: RE: LOL.. forget Pryor...  
YAJ2112 : 9/28/2016 9:25 am : link
In comment 13146358 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13146350 YAJ2112 said:


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In comment 13146340 arcarsenal said:


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Someone bid $30 for him and we only have $100 budgets. No thanks!



If he's going to start for you for the next 13 weeks, $30 isn't that bad a price



Well the team that picked him up has Maclin, Sanders, Baldwin and Hilton already in addition to DeSean Jackson, Crowder and VJax.. so I don't how often he'll even have a spot for him. It's not like he was desperate for WR's.. his RB's are pretty bad.. he has Elliott and not a whole lot else.


I would start Pryor over Maclin/Sanders this week. Probably Baldwin too if Wilson is out. I'd also be trying to make a trade if I was that guy, but in a 10 teamer the only guy likely to command much in return would be Hilton I would imagine.
i think that's a bit aggressive  
UConn4523 : 9/28/2016 9:31 am : link
there's no way I'm starting Pryor over Sanders. Pryor may be a nice add, but I wouldn't start him over better players just yet. I don't watch much of the Browns, but i'm guessing he hasn't been drawing the best of coverage on a game to game basis. Defenses will start accounting for him soon enough.

Pryor over Maclin is worth rolling the dice, that KC offense just isn't WR friendly.
RE: i think that's a bit aggressive  
YAJ2112 : 9/28/2016 9:33 am : link
In comment 13146370 UConn4523 said:
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there's no way I'm starting Pryor over Sanders. Pryor may be a nice add, but I wouldn't start him over better players just yet. I don't watch much of the Browns, but i'm guessing he hasn't been drawing the best of coverage on a game to game basis. Defenses will start accounting for him soon enough.

Pryor over Maclin is worth rolling the dice, that KC offense just isn't WR friendly.


Until Gordon comes back next week and we see how things change, Pryor is the only outside weapon the Browns have - and they have shown in this offense they are willing and able to push the ball downfield. Throw in his "wildcat" plays, and it's a no brainer to start Pryor.
No brainer is strong, and your opinion  
UConn4523 : 9/28/2016 9:40 am : link
and an argument can be made for Sanders playing the Bucs vs. Pryor playing the Redskins (who i think have a better defense than their games have indicated). To each their own, but I don't think there's anything clear about it (and you can make the argument that being the only weapon means he will get all the defensive treatment). I'd would be surprised if Pryor has 4 points or 24 points this weekend, and maybe that's a risk worth taking, or not.
I was able to land Pryor off waivers  
Mr Brightside : 9/28/2016 9:43 am : link
and speculated on Howard last week...would you Flex Pryor or Howard this week in 0.5 PPR?
RE: No brainer is strong, and your opinion  
YAJ2112 : 9/28/2016 9:43 am : link
In comment 13146384 UConn4523 said:
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and an argument can be made for Sanders playing the Bucs vs. Pryor playing the Redskins (who i think have a better defense than their games have indicated). To each their own, but I don't think there's anything clear about it (and you can make the argument that being the only weapon means he will get all the defensive treatment). I'd would be surprised if Pryor has 4 points or 24 points this weekend, and maybe that's a risk worth taking, or not.


I'll concede no-brainer is strong and my opinion, especially with regards to Sanders. I think he is a no-brainer over Maclin though.
RE: I was able to land Pryor off waivers  
UConn4523 : 9/28/2016 9:45 am : link
In comment 13146394 Mr Brightside said:
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and speculated on Howard last week...would you Flex Pryor or Howard this week in 0.5 PPR?


Pryor. I'm just not sold on the Chicago offense. If Carey is also back this week that hurts Howard's value.
I agree  
UConn4523 : 9/28/2016 9:45 am : link
I hate Maclin in that offense. Pryor has a ton of upside weekly, but as always its the Browns. It will be interesting to see what happens when Gordon is back, that can actually be a really fun offense to watch.
Non-ppr would you do this trade  
pjcas18 : 9/28/2016 9:49 am : link
I get:
DeAndre Hopkins
LaGarrette Blount

I give:
TY Hilton
LeSean McCoy

I do expect Blount to cool off next week when Brady returns, but at a minimum he'll still get the goal line carries I'd expect plus his usual 15 carries.
yup  
UConn4523 : 9/28/2016 9:52 am : link
I'd do that trade.
any under the radar adds this week?  
UConn4523 : 9/28/2016 10:29 am : link
I need to drop Langford; does a guy like Smallwood have any value?
RE: any under the radar adds this week?  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 9/28/2016 10:40 am : link
In comment 13146490 UConn4523 said:
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I need to drop Langford; does a guy like Smallwood have any value?


I would assume Jordan Howard is gone by now in most leagues. I've started stashing away Kenneth Dixon in some leagues, as he should be ready to see the field within 3 weeks (don't think it'll be this week). Most early reports have been they can see Dixon taking the starting job my mid-season since West/Forsett aren't doing much.
Seems like Smallwood  
pjcas18 : 9/28/2016 10:41 am : link
leapfrogged Barner, I'd stash him if you have space.

It's a bye week for him, so maybe not much interest.

He was snatched up in FAAB in my league.

What do you feel about this trade in PPR:

I get:
Melvin Gordon
Will Fuller

I send:
Jordan Howard
Sammy Watkins

RE: Seems like Smallwood  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 9/28/2016 10:44 am : link
In comment 13146515 pjcas18 said:
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leapfrogged Barner, I'd stash him if you have space.

It's a bye week for him, so maybe not much interest.

He was snatched up in FAAB in my league.

What do you feel about this trade in PPR:

I get:
Melvin Gordon
Will Fuller

I send:
Jordan Howard
Sammy Watkins


Yes, just with no info behind it, I am really high on Gordon the rest of the year. I'm never a fan of Watkins, as something is always lingering, and his injury now is a foot, which for him, could be troublesome.

Another back, to just piggyback on the Smallwood, would be Deandre Washington in Detroit. He's gonna get the Abdullah work, while Riddick will still do the passing work.
i'm stashing a ton of guys  
UConn4523 : 9/28/2016 10:47 am : link
my RB's are:

Anderson
Sims
Riddick
DeAngelo
Dixon
Drake
Smallwood (just added him and dropped Langford)

I'm hoping Dixon can get atleast a good chunk of weekly carries by week 6 or so. Drake is a longshot and would be my first drop if I needed to. DeAngelo i'll hold until I can't any longer, just in case Bell goes down.
Washington and Howard  
UConn4523 : 9/28/2016 10:48 am : link
and everyone else in that immediate backup role are gone. I'm more thinking longterm, guys that are 3rd at WR or RB on the depth chart and could have an impact down the line.
I just dropped Drake  
pjcas18 : 9/28/2016 10:50 am : link
the rotation they used last week is one I read they'll continue to use and they really want Ajayi to come out in front.
He had the TD last week.

Plus, Foster could come back, though it would likely only be temporary until the next time, I just don't think Drake is a worth a roster spot.

I do have Jordan Howard and Kenneth Dixon still as developmental backs. I really want Paul Perkins to emerge, he's sitting out there, but I can't add him yet. I think by mid-season we could start seeing more of him.

In another league I have Dewayne Washington - I lost Abdullah in two leagues. I like his future prospects too.
RE: Washington and Howard  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 9/28/2016 10:52 am : link
In comment 13146531 UConn4523 said:
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and everyone else in that immediate backup role are gone. I'm more thinking longterm, guys that are 3rd at WR or RB on the depth chart and could have an impact down the line.


Darkwa/Rainey should see a lot of work. Perkins would be a down the line guy.

If PPR at all, Dexter McCluster in San Diego can see some of the Woodhead targets in the passing game.
I agree on Drake  
UConn4523 : 9/28/2016 10:52 am : link
and he's there just in case Ajayi shits the bed this week or next. Drake did have the most carries in week 3, so there's somewhat of a reason for me to hold him for another week as long as I don't sustain any big injuries. My Bye weeks are pretty well spread out, so I won't need to make room (hopefully) for any 1 week adds.
Going even longer term,  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 9/28/2016 10:58 am : link
if you have an IR spot a guy like Dion Lewis can come off the IR in Week 7, and the Pats have a week 9 bye. Week 10 would be a realistic comeback option. James White hasn't been impressive and Dion was putting up near RB1 numbers last year.
Anybody still alive in baseball?  
Cruzin : 9/28/2016 10:59 am : link

I'm looking for an update on whether Pujols is done for the year. I know he's had a reoccurrence of his plantar facilitis but no word on how serious it is. I have to fill that 1b spot with at least a live bat. Preferably someone that plays tomorrow on the short schedule but Pujols has been hot, I'd hate to drop him and gave my opponent pick him up for the weekend.
Is this crazy to consider?  
pjcas18 : 9/28/2016 1:49 pm : link
12-team PPR:

I send:
Rivers
Beckham

I get:
Luck
Hilton

Would there just be no point to that trade? I have been trying to upgrade QB forever (seems like at least since I drafted Romo and lost him before the season), and it cost me Marvin Jones so far. I just don't like Rivers that much to be content with starting him.
RE: Is this crazy to consider?  
Sonic Youth : 9/28/2016 3:03 pm : link
In comment 13146843 pjcas18 said:
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12-team PPR:

I send:
Rivers
Beckham

I get:
Luck
Hilton

Would there just be no point to that trade? I have been trying to upgrade QB forever (seems like at least since I drafted Romo and lost him before the season), and it cost me Marvin Jones so far. I just don't like Rivers that much to be content with starting him.
I don't like that trade. We've reached a point where you can borderline stream QBs now. I'm not giving up OBJ with Hilton to replace him to upgrade from Rivers to Luck
Could use input on this trade  
Sonic Youth : 9/28/2016 3:06 pm : link
I am a notorious non trader in my league, most of the time I go through the year without trades, but I like this one.

Give: AJ Green

Receive: Brandon Cooks, Jeremy Hill

I'm getting SMASHED in this league...

My team is:

QB- Rodgers
RBs: Foster, Matt Jones, Gore, Ingram, Dion Lewis (still holding him)
WRs: AJ Green, Watkings, Michael Floyd, Jamison Crowder
TEs: Ebron, Eifert

Ingram seems to be coming around and Gore is holding the spot down at the moment. I don't think AJ Green and Brandin Cooks is really much of a dropoff at all, but Hill would be a good piece to have to actually solidify my RBs. This would cause me to drop Lewis however, and I've already held on to him for this long at this point. Maybe I'd drop Jones instead.

Full point PPR, 12 team. Thoughts?
RE: Could use input on this trade  
YAJ2112 : 9/28/2016 3:13 pm : link
In comment 13146977 Sonic Youth said:
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I am a notorious non trader in my league, most of the time I go through the year without trades, but I like this one.

Give: AJ Green

Receive: Brandon Cooks, Jeremy Hill

I'm getting SMASHED in this league...

My team is:

QB- Rodgers
RBs: Foster, Matt Jones, Gore, Ingram, Dion Lewis (still holding him)
WRs: AJ Green, Watkings, Michael Floyd, Jamison Crowder
TEs: Ebron, Eifert

Ingram seems to be coming around and Gore is holding the spot down at the moment. I don't think AJ Green and Brandin Cooks is really much of a dropoff at all, but Hill would be a good piece to have to actually solidify my RBs. This would cause me to drop Lewis however, and I've already held on to him for this long at this point. Maybe I'd drop Jones instead.

Full point PPR, 12 team. Thoughts?


Meh. It's an even enough trade, and I wouldn't let dropping Lewis hold me back from making it. Don't really see it as a big upgrade though. Hill is redundant with Gore/Ingram, just gives you an extra decision to make each week (unless Hill becomes your Flex given your WR situation). Cooks is a slight downgrade over AJ from a consistency standpoint.
RE: RE: Could use input on this trade  
Sonic Youth : 9/28/2016 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13146992 YAJ2112 said:
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In comment 13146977 Sonic Youth said:


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I am a notorious non trader in my league, most of the time I go through the year without trades, but I like this one.

Give: AJ Green

Receive: Brandon Cooks, Jeremy Hill

I'm getting SMASHED in this league...

My team is:

QB- Rodgers
RBs: Foster, Matt Jones, Gore, Ingram, Dion Lewis (still holding him)
WRs: AJ Green, Watkings, Michael Floyd, Jamison Crowder
TEs: Ebron, Eifert

Ingram seems to be coming around and Gore is holding the spot down at the moment. I don't think AJ Green and Brandin Cooks is really much of a dropoff at all, but Hill would be a good piece to have to actually solidify my RBs. This would cause me to drop Lewis however, and I've already held on to him for this long at this point. Maybe I'd drop Jones instead.

Full point PPR, 12 team. Thoughts?



Meh. It's an even enough trade, and I wouldn't let dropping Lewis hold me back from making it. Don't really see it as a big upgrade though. Hill is redundant with Gore/Ingram, just gives you an extra decision to make each week (unless Hill becomes your Flex given your WR situation). Cooks is a slight downgrade over AJ from a consistency standpoint.
Definitely true. We have to start 3 WRs and don't have a flex, so I'd have to make the Gore vs Hill decision weekly.
Was offered Jstew and Whitaker  
giantsfan44ab : 9/28/2016 4:06 pm : link
for Riddick in half ppr. Only have 5 bench spots so i'd prolly only roster Stew, but anyways, I shouldn't do that right?
RE: Was offered Jstew and Whitaker  
UConn4523 : 9/28/2016 4:08 pm : link
In comment 13147111 giantsfan44ab said:
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for Riddick in half ppr. Only have 5 bench spots so i'd prolly only roster Stew, but anyways, I shouldn't do that right?


Absolutely not. A healthy RB who may net the most receptions in the league out of the RB spot vs. an often injured RB on a team who's goal line carries are dominated by their QB, and his back up who splits time with another back up.
RE: Was offered Jstew and Whitaker  
YAJ2112 : 9/28/2016 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13147111 giantsfan44ab said:
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for Riddick in half ppr. Only have 5 bench spots so i'd prolly only roster Stew, but anyways, I shouldn't do that right?


I'd say the roster spot is more valuable than the difference between Stew/Fozzy and Riddick. So I'd pass as well. Lateral move at best, and none of those guys have a ton of upside.
First year doing any type of PPR  
giantsfan44ab : 9/28/2016 4:36 pm : link
and even for half PPR I like how the draft went. I expected drastic difference in where RBs went compared to my standard league. Not at all. In fact guys like Stew and Lacy went around the same spots as my standard league. I nabbed Duke Johnson and Woodhead between the 80s-100s. Riddick with the last pick of the draft. I know 1 league is a small sample size but I was surprised that the Yahoo draft board didnt adjust its rankings for half PPr as much as I thought (if at all).
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