NFT: Mets: Sounds Like Ominous News on Matz

Considering how slowly the Mets move on things, the Matz "imminent" surgery almost constitutes as positive news #Mets

I doubt he will be effective at this point anyways without rehab

In comment 13145769 spike said:

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I doubt he will be effective at this point anyways without rehab

He's been shut down. Surgery imminent.

In comment 13145770 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13145769 spike said: Quote: I doubt he will be effective at this point anyways without rehab He's been shut down. Surgery imminent.

Good. Get him ready for spring training

Lineup
Reyes
Cab
Ces
Grandy
Bruce
TJ
Hulk
Rivera R
Thor

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In comment 13145784 Chris684 said:

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Bone Spurs

Supposedly has a contract extension with Miami

In comment 13145790 spike said:

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Supposedly has a contract extension with Miami

3 years 40. Took a team friendly deal.

In comment 13145744 Vanzetti said:

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refused to get on the boat with him and texted Fernandez telling him not to take the boat out. Supposedly, Fernandez had a huge fight with his GF. Maybe this old news? Also heard it on radio and might have missed something. But if true, it kinda puts the accident in a different light.

Has anyone else heard anything on this?

word from Ozuna was he declined to be with his family.

died on that boat too I believe. Would be a really different story if he was heavily intoxicated.

damn that's a lot of money for what

Hits for average, clutch, team leader, good defensive player. Would love him on the Mets. Good deal for Miami.

In comment 13145821 Meats and Cheeses said:

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Hits for average, clutch, team leader, good defensive player. Would love him on the Mets. Good deal for Miami.

I hope TJ Rivera will be like him one day

#lgm

In comment 13145803 Metnut said:

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died on that boat too I believe. Would be a really different story if he was heavily intoxicated.

I guess but all 3 were at the bar American Social in downtown (I was actually at that bar Monday night for Eagles/Bears - its a good scene). They were probably all drunk -- the bar has some explaining to do. I've also heard from people down here that those jetty's are really hard to see at night.

A 24 yr old and two other 24-25 yr olds dieing is a tragedy no matter who was drunk. And driving a boat at 3am doesn't exactly pose a danger to the rest of society like getting behind a wheel on 95, but I do see your point to an extent.

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is killing us. let Kelly and Reyes go

is for Reyes to be hurt now...

Grandy!

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Don't look now but the Mets are going to finish in the top 5 in team wRC+.

Ill spot you David Wright and Neil Walker.

This lineup with this bullpen and a healthy Harvey, deGrom, Syndergaard, and Matz sharpening their blades for the playoffs would have been close to unstoppable.

GOD DAMN IT lol.

For Lugo!

There's no way we might have needed Familia tomorrow afternoon? We HAD to pitch him tonight. Ugh. Whatever. Ill enjoy the win.

Tomorrow's a night game

In all seriousness. Day off Wednesday. Reed and familia are fine pitching tomorrow then rest. As opposed to letting them get rusty.

Doses of Bruce and Duda this week

In comment 13146118 ZGiants98 said:

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There's no way we might have needed Familia tomorrow afternoon? We HAD to pitch him tonight. Ugh. Whatever. Ill enjoy the win.

He hasn't pitched in 5 days

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5 more games remaining

25 man playoff roster
1Syndergaard
2Colon
3Lugo
4Gsellman
5Familia
6Reed
7Salas
8Blevins
9Robles
10Smoker

11Rivera
12TDA
13Duda
14Loney
15TJ Rivera
16Johnson
17Cabrera
18Reyes
19Cespedes
20Granderson
21Bruce
22Conforto
23De Aza
24 Lagares

25 Flores? or Verrett?

SP-Syndergaard
SP-Colon
SP-Lugo
SP-Gsellman
RP-Familia
RP-Reed
RP-Robles
RP-Smoker
RP-Blevins
RP-Salas
RP-1 of Ynoa/Gilmartin/Goeddel/Verrett
C-d'Arnaud
C-Rivera
IF-Duda
IF-Rivera
IF-Flores (hopefully)
IF-Cabrera
IF-Reyes
IF-Johnson
IF-1 of Campbell/Reynolds/Loney if Flores is unavailable, otherwise none of these three
OF-Cespedes
OF-Granderson
OF-Bruce
OF-Conforto
OF-De Aza
OF-Lagares

Thought it was a day game

But there is just no space

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Offers a switch hitter who can play a number of positions

but I'm not confident Flores makes it back. He's not even swinging a bat yet and there are 5 games left in the season.

In comment 13146265 spike said:

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But there is just no space

Agreed - Nimmo has had some really good at bats coming offf the bench as a PH.

Really is a shame that Flores is out, such a stupid play to get hurt on.

Hurt this team more than wright or walker. Frankly I think Reyes has been an upgrade over wright and Flores was a fine fill in for walker (and now Rivera). With the amount of high k and streaky players in this lineup having a contact guy with less power at 2nd is fine by me.

Not really breaking any ground here but when I look back at this season I will lament the pitching injuries and really not remember how bad this offense was in July.

Duda was one of the few irreplaceable players. We actually had depth at many positions. Not 1B and certainly not of his caliber.

have a 10 man bench so everyone should make it. Would be ludicrous if everyone didn't actually. Once the actual playoff rounds start the bench should be 6-7 so we could go in a bunch of directions.

spikes up, the fielder in in danger. Go head first, hands exposed, the baserunner is in danger. Especially at the plate.

the Mets are calling Flores return "doubtful". Lots of stops and starts and soreness refuses to go away.

In comment 13146356 Victor in CT said:

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spikes up, the fielder in in danger. Go head first, hands exposed, the baserunner is in danger. Especially at the plate.

Recent article on sliding:


Davey Lopes on sliding headfirst: ‘I wouldn’t teach it.’ - ( New Window )

In comment 13146343 ZGiants98 said:

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Duda was one of the few irreplaceable players. We actually had depth at many positions. Not 1B and certainly not of his caliber.

To Z's credit, he absolutely pounded this drum very loudly before the season started.

that Flores was starting to hit righties better and was going well given every day ABs, he's a bigtime weapon to throw out there against lefty starters in the playoffs. It's a frustrating loss considering that poor fundamentals led to the injury.

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In comment 13146356 Victor in CT said: Quote: spikes up, the fielder in in danger. Go head first, hands exposed, the baserunner is in danger. Especially at the plate. Recent article on sliding: Davey Lopes on sliding headfirst: ‘I wouldn’t teach it.’ - ( New Window )

Completely agree. I'm a long time youth baseball coach now up to 18U Babe Ruth. My 2 nevers: Never slide head first, and never slide into first base.

"'With that in mind, it's worth reviewing what happens if the Mets, Giants and Cardinals finish tied. The teams are given A, B and C designations. The Cardinals and Mets both won their season series over the Giants, so the Giants are the C. The Mets and Cardinals split and the tiebreaker there is intradivision record, which right now goes to the Cardinals. So they're A and the Mets are B. From MLB.com:

For example, let's assume that the Cardinals (first pick) and Mets (second pick) both choose the designations that give them two chances to make the Postseason, leaving the Giants with only one chance. The Cardinals and Mets would play in St. Louis on Monday, Oct. 3.

The winner of that game would become the host team in the actual wild-card game; the loser would travel to San Francisco for a game on Oct. 4.

The winner of the game in San Francisco would earn the second wild-card spot, and would be the road team against the winner of Monday's game in the NL wild-card game on Wednesday, Oct. 5.

However, it is possible that Mets would decide that they prefer to play one home game with a rested pitching staff for a spot in the wild-card game. In that case, the Giants would travel to St. Louis for the tiebreaker game on Oct. 3, with the Mets waiting to host the loser on Oct. 4. However, in this scenario the Mets would be forfeiting any chance of hosting the actual NL wild-card game, making it less likely.

Which way do you choose? You clearly have to go for the two chances to get into the wild-card game, even if that potentially leads to three games in three days. That said, I think you still have to go all-out to win that first game, because if you lose, you'll be staring down Madison Bumgarner in a must-win game. Here are potential pitching matchups, assuming Syndergaard and Adam Wainwright start on Sunday as scheduled and Johnny Cueto starts Thursday for the Giants (as they hope he'll do after suffering a strained groin):

Monday: Mets (Seth Lugo) at Cardinals (Mike Leake)

Tuesday: Mets (Gabriel Ynoa?) or Cardinals (Alex Reyes, or Carlos Martinez on three days' rest) at Giants (Madison Bumgarner)

The wild-card starters on Wednesday would then likely be Johnny Cueto for the Giants, Robert Gsellman or Bartolo Colon (on three days' rest) for the Mets and Martinez (or Reyes) for the Cardinals.

So you can see, the Mets are desperate to clinch before Sunday so they don't have to burn Syndergaard. With Colon starting Saturday, the two-game tiebreaker scenario leaves them in a bind, as they don't really have a fifth starter right now. The Giants are in the best position, with Bumgarner and Cueto potentially lined up."



ESPN - ( New Window )

In comment 13146356 Victor in CT said:

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spikes up, the fielder in in danger. Go head first, hands exposed, the baserunner is in danger. Especially at the plate.

Especially into home plate. Sliding head first into a catcher with full gear is just dumb and coaches should instruct players not to do it.