The 2-0 Giants didn't lose last week because they underestimated the 0-2 Redskins and the 3-0 Vikings will not play any softer against a Jints team they handled easily last year.
It's a term mostly used by bookies to entice the money to even out on the underdog side and frequently used as banter for talking heads and fans on sports chat sites.
In the actual game, it doesn't exist.
Just sayin'.
You may now return to bashing Eli for your air conditioner breaking down and just now being informed that Freon is no longer legal so you have to redo all the inside components as well to meet required specifications.
Hahaha, could not have responded better myself.
Exactly right in every way.
Steve Marriuchi was talking about this last week, quoting Bill Walsh in his explanation. Let's say me, Bill Walsh and Mooch are wrong, do you any specific examples you'd like to share or you just disagree with the premise that preparation for one team by another isn't mentally be affected by another team's record?
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Last weekend's game wasn't a "trap game" but they do exist.
Steve Marriuchi was talking about this last week, quoting Bill Walsh in his explanation. Let's say me, Bill Walsh and Mooch are wrong, do you have any specific examples you'd like to share or you just disagree with the premise that preparation for one team another isn't mentally be affected by another team's record?
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Fans tend to think teams see the Browns on their schedule followed by the Patriots, and that all preparation shifts to the Patriots in 2 weeks, instead of the Browns this week. That doesn't happen.
Eric, I ask because you say last week wasn't a trap game for the Giants. If you think that mental preparation is affected by who's up next, why in the world would you not subscribe to OBJ's preparation for Josh Norman not to be a factor?
Fans tend to think teams see the Browns on their schedule followed by the Patriots, and that all preparation shifts to the Patriots in 2 weeks, instead of the Browns this week. That doesn't happen.
Fekker says: "Uh oh, UConn's a smart guy, I may have kissed Eric's ass too fast this time"
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"trap game" is an overused concept that used to mean a really good team playing a really bad team that may be able to exploit a weakness and surprise. Basically a new cute way of saying "extreme underdog".
Fans tend to think teams see the Browns on their schedule followed by the Patriots, and that all preparation shifts to the Patriots in 2 weeks, instead of the Browns this week. That doesn't happen.
Fekker says: "Uh oh, UConn's a smart guy, I may have kissed Eric's ass too fast this time"
Haha, I think Eric would agree I hardly kiss his ass. But you just made a dumb post and he summed up why very efficiently.
So there is certainly "such a thing," and Eric pointed this out, while also noting that the Washington game was not one.
I thought you were here for our amusement?
People as whole under value the amount of psychology that goes into playing sports. Baseball probably is the biggest mind fuck for athletes, but football is certainly no exception. Playing with confidence can overcome physical deficiencies. If you trust what you're doing and believe in it, then your brain fires the signals to your muscles just a microsecond earlier, but that can be plenty in sports. You more with more conviction and are better at your craft for it.
I knew it had something to do with the color of the leaves that leads to snowfall amounts in January but...
Silver Senior, you coming back to see us soon?
Even the NBC network was salivating on a Bronco/Miami game, the following week....
But if a team is in the hunt for a division title and has a game against a losing much weaker non-divisional or conference team sandwiched between two important games against divisional rivals with good records all vying for a divisional title it certainly can be considered a trap game regardless if you like the term or not.
People as whole under value the amount of psychology that goes into playing sports. Baseball probably is the biggest mind fuck for athletes, but football is certainly no exception. Playing with confidence can overcome physical deficiencies. If you trust what you're doing and believe in it, then your brain fires the signals to your muscles just a microsecond earlier, but that can be plenty in sports. You more with more conviction and are better at your craft for it.
OK Mike, if you say so.
A wise manh once told me, know when to shut up, it's easier to get out of a shallower hole...
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I agree it's thrown around carelessly. But as blacklight put it, saying it "doesn't exist" is the same as saying a strong team can't lose to a bad team because they underestimated their opponent.
People as whole under value the amount of psychology that goes into playing sports. Baseball probably is the biggest mind fuck for athletes, but football is certainly no exception. Playing with confidence can overcome physical deficiencies. If you trust what you're doing and believe in it, then your brain fires the signals to your muscles just a microsecond earlier, but that can be plenty in sports. You more with more conviction and are better at your craft for it.
OK Mike, if you say so.
A wise manh once told me, know when to shut up, it's easier to get out of a shallower hole...
Cruzin.. being real here. Do you actually not believe/understand anything I posted that in that post? I don't know anyone who would even think to debate the impact of psychology on sports performance. Are you denying such an element exists? Forget trap games and just answer that if you could.
Here is one example where Bruce Arians uses it:
"-- Arians played up “Niners Week” because that Cardinals hadn’t won in San Francisco since 2008 prior to last season. “Guys who have been here for a while know what this means,” Arians said. “I don’t know how the 49ers could be a trap game for us. We haven’t won there in eight years. It’s a division road game. Nothing else really needs to be said.”
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If the a ravens weren't 3-0 I'd say they are a trap game. Otherwise, Detroit who is sandwiched between Dallas and Philly followed by the Skins is a trap or maybe Cleveland.
Sure but a trap game is one explanation of why in certain situation teams don't always do that (show up and play well)
Trap games don't mean a team can't or wont win those games if they play well.
Here is one example where Bruce Arians uses it:
"-- Arians played up “Niners Week” because that Cardinals hadn’t won in San Francisco since 2008 prior to last season. “Guys who have been here for a while know what this means,” Arians said. “I don’t know how the 49ers could be a trap game for us. We haven’t won there in eight years. It’s a division road game. Nothing else really needs to be said.”
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steve, assuming Arians was answering a media question ( which it pretty much looks like) he totally dismissed the idea that trap games exist. I don't think that really helps your side of the question.
That is how/why the term came to be, coaches called it that in order to try and motivate his players to not fall into the trap of looking past an easy opponent and fail.
Calling it a trap game doesn't excuse the loss, if anything it magnifies how bad it was, in that they the better team lost to the lessor team they should have beaten.
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and some do use the term which goes to my first point that it's probably just semantics in that some coaches embrace the term and others as pointed out by the OP don't. But the situation can exist regardless of how one chooses to describe it.
Here is one example where Bruce Arians uses it:
"-- Arians played up “Niners Week” because that Cardinals hadn’t won in San Francisco since 2008 prior to last season. “Guys who have been here for a while know what this means,” Arians said. “I don’t know how the 49ers could be a trap game for us. We haven’t won there in eight years. It’s a division road game. Nothing else really needs to be said.”
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steve, assuming Arians was answering a media question ( which it pretty much looks like) he totally dismissed the idea that trap games exist. I don't think that really helps your side of the question.
He didn't say or imply they didn't exist. He was saying because of who they were facing he didn't think it could become one.
Why do you think he used mousetraps?
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I agree it's thrown around carelessly. But as blacklight put it, saying it "doesn't exist" is the same as saying a strong team can't lose to a bad team because they underestimated their opponent.
People as whole under value the amount of psychology that goes into playing sports. Baseball probably is the biggest mind fuck for athletes, but football is certainly no exception. Playing with confidence can overcome physical deficiencies. If you trust what you're doing and believe in it, then your brain fires the signals to your muscles just a microsecond earlier, but that can be plenty in sports. You more with more conviction and are better at your craft for it.
OK Mike, if you say so.
A wise manh once told me, know when to shut up, it's easier to get out of a shallower hole...
Cruzin.. being real here. Do you actually not believe/understand anything I posted that in that post? I don't know anyone who would even think to debate the impact of psychology on sports performance. Are you denying such an element exists? Forget trap games and just answer that if you could.
Mike, I like you, you're passionate and don't take any shit from people and I'd rather not have a back n forth with you anymore than I have already. Hopefully you'll see that is not based on the merits of your argument.
Here, let me put it in terms so you might better understand the demeanor in which I'm addressing you.
after 10 long years they let me out of the home ( excitable they all said, excitable boy) and I dug up her grave and built a cage with her bones ( excitable boy they all said, excitable boy... )
They don't strike me as a team equipped to deal with injuries. I especially don't trust Spags when he is working with less than his first team.
I knew it had something to do with the color of the leaves that leads to snowfall amounts in January but...
Silver Senior, you coming back to see us soon?
Cruisin Invite me and I'll be there. Unless you're in Northern Washington. My E-mail is in my profile. That said ...
Who are you!?
Of course they exist.
That damn UFO defense.
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I knew it had something to do with the color of the leaves that leads to snowfall amounts in January but...
Silver Senior, you coming back to see us soon?
Cruisin Invite me and I'll be there. Unless you're in Northern Washington. My E-mail is in my profile. That said ...
Who are you!?
The proud father of a son who's the proud owner of a model '71 Red Mustang whose wheels turns by themselves and doors fully function that some old guy gave him years ago that he stills plays with and waxes occasionally. He loves that car!
I'll email you tomorrow.