Death is too good for this piece of trash. I hope he lives a long life in prison where he is raped on a daily basis for the rest of his miserable life.
than just delete the thread. If I can't start a thread about the 2 people up to run our country in a matter of months, then I don't see how people can talk about gun control, which has just as much vitrol.
If you can't come on this thread, provide news updates, and talk about what happened at the school, then move on to something else.
What should this thread turn into? It's inherently political. Maybe it shouldn't be posted in the first place, but once it is, hell's bells.
There's plenty to talk about. Remember the Boston bombing? That thread was amazing. Constant updates, good feedback, very little bickering, almost no politics that I can remember.
What should this thread turn into? It's inherently political. Maybe it shouldn't be posted in the first place, but once it is, hell's bells.
I don't know maybe information, sadness, outrage, shock, the usual responses to something awful. But why immediately try and make points about pro or con on gun control? Do you really think this will be the thread that changes minds?
I dont know how to fix it but this shit doesnt happen anywhere else.
Why does it happen here more than anywhere else in the world. The study below compares us to 36 other countries combined.
The results are staggering. School Shootings Around the World - ( New Window )
Those aren't staggering results. Most of those countries 1) aren't even on the economic scale that we are, and 2) do not have a population close to ours, 3) and many of them do not have a modern society like we do.
There are changes we can make, but these kinds of comparisons are useless and only serve as a red herring argument.
Eric made it very clear that political threads and posts aren't tolerated. His rule, not mine. I'm all for political threads, but if I can't discuss the debate on Monday why should you be able to tell me banning guns will make America better?
When it's a Muslim, the usual cast of characters parades their xenophobic ignorant bullshit how this country is under attack. When it's a white Christian male, it's always "can't we just keep the politics out of a tragedy?"
When it's a Muslim, the usual cast of characters parades their xenophobic ignorant bullshit how this country is under attack. When it's a white Christian male, it's always "can't we just keep the politics out of a tragedy?"
Is it a white christian male? Maybe you're projecting your own prejudices since I haven't read one thing about the race or ethnicity of the shooter.
nothing like jumping to conclusions, so typical, people just can't help themselves.
When it's a Muslim, the usual cast of characters parades their xenophobic ignorant bullshit how this country is under attack. When it's a white Christian male, it's always "can't we just keep the politics out of a tragedy?"
Not sure if this is directed to me or not, but I didn't know until your very post who the culprit was. I scrolled up and saw an earlier post that suggested it was a teenager, and figured it was......a teenager. I actually didn't think ethnicity or religion until you brought it up.
When it's a Muslim, the usual cast of characters parades their xenophobic ignorant bullshit how this country is under attack. When it's a white Christian male, it's always "can't we just keep the politics out of a tragedy?"
Show me where I posted anywhere in a thread that out country is under attack, or even posted anything in those types of threads?
I'm just saying, some think prayers help, others think taking a concrete stand on various issues helps.
And this thread is not the place to do that, per the site owner. Do you believe you will influence a bunch of BBI posters to enact meaningful change? You can't be that clueless. If you want to do that, call your representatives, run for office, or start going door to door.
On here - respect the rules of the site and shut up about your political views.
When it's a Muslim, the usual cast of characters parades their xenophobic ignorant bullshit how this country is under attack. When it's a white Christian male, it's always "can't we just keep the politics out of a tragedy?"
Who are these same people? The "same people" argument... usually exists in your head. Also, I'm unaware of shooters in this country creating tragedies touting a Christian faith. Serious question... who are these white, Christian male shooters? And if you can find them, was their religion a driver of their shooting or just an ancillary fact about them that was not related to their action? I think there has been 1 abortion clinic shooting in the last couple of years that would qualify... and that's all I can think of (maybe I'm wrong).
It's why I don't contribute. 'The company line', we're a sports site...blah blah blah. Bullshit.
There used to be some good and interesting discussions here. I wish they were still allowed. Sadly though too many people would complain to Eric. Can you really blame him for running out of patience and not wanting to deal with baby sitting a bunch of adults.
Did you pay attention to the discussions on BBI? A significant percentage, even a majority at times are non sports related. It's always been that way. BBI is a hybrid message board. Yes we are brought together by our Giants fandom. But it's a widely varied community discussion.
Did you pay attention to the discussions on BBI? A significant percentage, even a majority at times are non sports related. It's always been that way. BBI is a hybrid message board. Yes we are brought together by our Giants fandom. But it's a widely varied community discussion.
I do - and oddly enough, I was taught what censorship was in grade school, unlike some others.
sad. once again, innocent people gunned down, likely in a cold random fashion. doubly sad when the victims are kids. triply sad when you know it is going to happen again and again and again and people aren't willing to make any changes to prevent these incidents from occurring, that it's considered an accepted by product of living in a "free country".
but I truly believe we have come to this as a result of a the glorification of violence - yeah we all love our action movies and TV shows and video games, but I believe we've desensitized ourselves (and our children) to the violence and have basically shown it as ok and "not real" to a degree.
Also, the media gives so much attention to these losers who commit these heinous acts that they achieve their mission of letting the word know how miserable they are and whatever their motive is.
and don't want to go back to that outdated way of thinking. Being glorified in the media and possibly being remembered definitely plays a role with some of these people.
Whoever first came up with the line we don't have a gun problem in America, we have a mental health problem fucking nailed it.
but I truly believe we have come to this as a result of a the glorification of violence - yeah we all love our action movies and TV shows and video games, but I believe we've desensitized ourselves (and our children) to the violence and have basically shown it as ok and "not real" to a degree.
Also, the media gives so much attention to these losers who commit these heinous acts that they achieve their mission of letting the word know how miserable they are and whatever their motive is.
Just a thought
so if you feel that these are the factors, what is your fix? do you ban/regulate all violent entertainment content? do you ban/force the media to not mention the names of the killers?
When it's a Muslim, the usual cast of characters parades their xenophobic ignorant bullshit how this country is under attack. When it's a white Christian male, it's always "can't we just keep the politics out of a tragedy?"
Some great country we live in.
Really need to check the b.s. political talk as soon as there is a tragedy.
Still a pretty damn good country.
Why does it happen here more than anywhere else in the world. The study below compares us to 36 other countries combined.
The results are staggering.
School Shootings Around the World - ( New Window )
Good to see the first response to this thread is political. What is wrong with people
We do share one common sentiment though...indeed, what is wrong with people?
I'll cut to the chase, nobody has their minds changed.
Thanks for letting me know!
If you can't come on this thread, provide news updates, and talk about what happened at the school, then move on to something else.
There's plenty to talk about. Remember the Boston bombing? That thread was amazing. Constant updates, good feedback, very little bickering, almost no politics that I can remember.
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I don't know maybe information, sadness, outrage, shock, the usual responses to something awful. But why immediately try and make points about pro or con on gun control? Do you really think this will be the thread that changes minds?
Why does it happen here more than anywhere else in the world. The study below compares us to 36 other countries combined.
The results are staggering. School Shootings Around the World - ( New Window )
Those aren't staggering results. Most of those countries 1) aren't even on the economic scale that we are, and 2) do not have a population close to ours, 3) and many of them do not have a modern society like we do.
There are changes we can make, but these kinds of comparisons are useless and only serve as a red herring argument.
it's not new and it hampers progress and discussion.
I'm all for gun control. If someone isnt I'm not going to get bent out of shape.
Same way as I wouldnt get angry if someone disagreed on a draft pick/free agent signing/etc.
Sounds like early coverage is two children and a teacher wounded. Hopefully nobody dies. Prayers for all those who were injured.
What the hell does this even mean? You do understand prayers aren't delivered to the injured in boxes for them to eat, don't you?
It's a human reaction to tragedy. I am starting to get why it is unfamiliar to you.
Is it a white christian male? Maybe you're projecting your own prejudices since I haven't read one thing about the race or ethnicity of the shooter.
nothing like jumping to conclusions, so typical, people just can't help themselves.
Not sure if this is directed to me or not, but I didn't know until your very post who the culprit was. I scrolled up and saw an earlier post that suggested it was a teenager, and figured it was......a teenager. I actually didn't think ethnicity or religion until you brought it up.
Show me where I posted anywhere in a thread that out country is under attack, or even posted anything in those types of threads?
What makes you conclude this nut was a Christian?
And this thread is not the place to do that, per the site owner. Do you believe you will influence a bunch of BBI posters to enact meaningful change? You can't be that clueless. If you want to do that, call your representatives, run for office, or start going door to door.
On here - respect the rules of the site and shut up about your political views.
Who are these same people? The "same people" argument... usually exists in your head. Also, I'm unaware of shooters in this country creating tragedies touting a Christian faith. Serious question... who are these white, Christian male shooters? And if you can find them, was their religion a driver of their shooting or just an ancillary fact about them that was not related to their action? I think there has been 1 abortion clinic shooting in the last couple of years that would qualify... and that's all I can think of (maybe I'm wrong).
In the meantime, I hope your prayers---or whatever else anybody has---results in a cessation of the daily occurrence of these types of events.
Good luck and thank you for your support.
There used to be some good and interesting discussions here. I wish they were still allowed. Sadly though too many people would complain to Eric. Can you really blame him for running out of patience and not wanting to deal with baby sitting a bunch of adults.
So you'll continue to freeload. Got it...
Smile on your brother
Everybody get together
Try to love one another
Right now
B. Fuck you.
Political censorship on a sports forum? WTF are you talking about?
I do - and oddly enough, I was taught what censorship was in grade school, unlike some others.
Some great country we live in.
Please feel free to get the fuck out if you don't like this country.
Please feel free to get the fuck out if you don't like this country.
If you don't like reading about mass shootings every other week you can just move!" -superspynyg
Also, the media gives so much attention to these losers who commit these heinous acts that they achieve their mission of letting the word know how miserable they are and whatever their motive is.
Just a thought
Whoever first came up with the line we don't have a gun problem in America, we have a mental health problem fucking nailed it.
Also, the media gives so much attention to these losers who commit these heinous acts that they achieve their mission of letting the word know how miserable they are and whatever their motive is.
Just a thought
+1