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Q: On that drive against Washington where you had the 19-yarder and 24-yarder, were you starting to get the feel of taking over a game again? A: Yes. It’s just unfortunate that it was as late as it was. You wait all game and then it finally comes around at the end. It makes it a lot more difficult. It’s like you’re playing catchup instead of being on top of it from the start. I felt like we could’ve done that all game. From the very beginning of the game, even with the coverages that they were playing. I felt like we could’ve took advantage of that but we didn’t. We just keep it moving from here. Like I said, we’re going against one of the top defenses in the league and we have to come out and play our best. |
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Q: Ben McAdoo said you have to do a better job controlling your emotions. Is that something that you have to do? A: No. I’m in a great place right now mentally, physically and spiritually. There’s not really much that bothers me at all, to be honest. I’m going to go out and play football the only way I know how to play. Try my best to be the best teammate that I possibly can be. At the end of the day you play for the guys who are wearing the jersey. They’re the ones that take the field for you. They’re the ones who you shed blood, sweat and tears with. I’m just going to go out and be who I am. Q: Is there any concern that you could be a distraction? That’s what he said. A: He said, she said. I’m not really concerned about anything except the Minnesota Vikings. |
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"There are qualities that Odell Beckham, this young man, brings to this football team to the likes of which I've never seen," Coughlin said. "He has great energy, great enthusiasm, great effort. He does it literally every day that he walks out on the field. He's an emotional young man. He wears his emotions on his sleeve. "I will never ... I will not defend his actions yesterday because they were wrong and this particular franchise and organization does not tolerate that. So I will not do that. I will defend the young man and the quality of the person I will defend him as long as I'm able." |
Let's just win first though. I'd like to see one of those wins where the other team is left reeling. That would make my week a lot better.
I thought this was screamingly obvious during the game.
I agree with you. Making it even worse for him IMO, was it happened on a 1st down play and he never got an opportunity during that series.
Somehow I think if they went his way on 1st and or 2nd down and then the play to Tye happened on 3rd down, I don't think he reacts the same way. I really think never getting a chance that series pissed him off big time, and I don't really blame him for being pissed.
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that he was not happy with the game plan in the first half. Now I am thinking that his freak out session on the sideline was all about the ball going to Tye in that big spot.
I agree with you. Making it even worse for him IMO, was it happened on a 1st down play and he never got an opportunity during that series.
Somehow I think if they went his way on 1st and or 2nd down and then the play to Tye happened on 3rd down, I don't think he reacts the same way. I really think never getting a chance that series pissed him off big time, and I don't really blame him for being pissed.
He was beating Norman like a drum. Cruz & Shep were winning their battles too. Skins lose 2 starters from their secondary and Mac doesn't even test their replacements. Giants got to 14 points and Mac started playing against the time on the game clock instead of the opponent. It was a chickenshit approach, that started early and let the Skins stay in the game.
I don't see an issue with Beckham having an outburst on the sideline. They have to stop trying to neuter him. I am not talking about him against Carolina. That is obviously over the line. I am talking about not getting any penalties and giving it his all out there. The reason people hate him is also the reason people love him. It is that competitive drive, that passion, that desire to be the best, the hatred of losing.
Using my best radar impresonation...
Has it in the past?
It depends on the eye of the beholder how you see these guys. I see super talents and great competitors. Others see immaturity, selfishness or distraction.
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Should help the Giants win more games.. no?
Using my best radar impresonation...
Has it in the past?
Idk truthfully but my eyes tell me he's more useful with the ball than he is as a fucking decoy. When you played the 49ers you knew the ball was going to Rice that didn't make it any easier to stop, those teams won alot of games.
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Should help the Giants win more games.. no?
Using my best radar impresonation...
Has it in the past?
Idk truthfully but my eyes tell me he's more useful with the ball than he is as a fucking decoy. When you played the 49ers you knew the ball was going to Rice that didn't make it any easier to stop, those teams won alot of games.
Ummm, Montana threw the ball to a lot of guys. We have won SBs by throwing to Tyree for TDs in the super bowl. Bear Pascoe in the NFC Championship game. Hell Henry Hynoski had some big catches in the playoffs.
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that he was not happy with the game plan in the first half. Now I am thinking that his freak out session on the sideline was all about the ball going to Tye in that big spot.
I agree with you. Making it even worse for him IMO, was it happened on a 1st down play and he never got an opportunity during that series.
Somehow I think if they went his way on 1st and or 2nd down and then the play to Tye happened on 3rd down, I don't think he reacts the same way. I really think never getting a chance that series pissed him off big time, and I don't really blame him for being pissed.
He was beating Norman like a drum. Cruz & Shep were winning their battles too. Skins lose 2 starters from their secondary and Mac doesn't even test their replacements. Giants got to 14 points and Mac started playing against the time on the game clock instead of the opponent. It was a chickenshit approach, that started early and let the Skins stay in the game.
I really didn't get it at all either. I really don't enjoy Mac as a play caller. I think sometimes he's more focused on being balanced rather than just continuously attack the other teams weakness.
If something is working, just stick with it! They really needed to do a better job taking advantage of that decimated secondary, Oh well.
I wish we would get him going with reverses, screens, bubbles more early.
He really only has to do a few more things beyond what he is doing, shut up, be humble, and go about his business. He chooses not to do those things, there are consequences and we see them in the form his on field antics, suspensions, and warnings about suspensions. He co enables our linemen to keep him in line and then they get ejected.
He keeps dropping footballs and Eli will give his throws to Sheppard and Cruz. They seem focused and fly in formation.
And there offense looked like struggled the previous two weeks because the lack of other threats.
People are acting like we arent moving the ball. We are. We just havent finished.
Stop making intelligent comments we need to spread the ball and get our tight ends and back up running backs their touches
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Miami knows the ball is going his way almost every time. They can't stop it. The way the rules are in the NFL now, elite WR's are basically impossible to cover.
Stop making intelligent comments we need to spread the ball and get our tight ends and back up running backs their touches
Bengals back up running backs and tight ends have combined for 5 catches already.
yet you probably have no problem idolizing lawrence taylor
It doesn't mean shit if you go 6-10 each of those years. The Giants' coaches and quarterback I'm sure are trying to find the best combination of offense/defense/special teams that results in winning football games. The Giants had a 21-9 lead in this game with minimal contributions from Beckham; the game was lost from that point forward due to turnovers and penalties despite Beckham being more heavily involved at that point.
Win games. Beckham should shut up and do what he's told, because though he might have a ton of stats to his name since he's come into the NFL he hasn't shown shit when it comes to actually winning games.
There is one mantra that will lead to success and it's been demonstrated in New England for over a decade:
Shut up and do your fucking job.
It doesn't mean shit if you go 6-10 each of those years. The Giants' coaches and quarterback I'm sure are trying to find the best combination of offense/defense/special teams that results in winning football games. The Giants had a 21-9 lead in this game with minimal contributions from Beckham; the game was lost from that point forward due to turnovers and penalties despite Beckham being more heavily involved at that point.
Win games. Beckham should shut up and do what he's told, because though he might have a ton of stats to his name since he's come into the NFL he hasn't shown shit when it comes to actually winning games.
There is one mantra that will lead to success and it's been demonstrated in New England for over a decade:
Shut up and do your fucking job.
Minimal contributions, maybe. But let's not act like he's not drawing the attention of the defense away from the other targets.
he was getting doubled and triple teamed and still being covered by their best corner...
anyone who can honestly say that the losing seasons are on beckham last year or his stats mean nothing because the giants havnt won just have an agenda...without beckham they probably have back to back 2 win seasons...
does he need to control his emotions? absolutely but he doesnt get into the face of his teammates or coaches, he has no off the field issues...
yet people want to trade him, absolutely ridiculous..
and people need to stop acting like the giants are so above this stuff that it is embarrasing the organization, their greatest player ever is a rapist and druggie..
Exactly. If winning the game means he is a decoy all game, great. If it means throwing it to him 20 times, great.
Either way, do your job. No one gives a shit about history's lamest rivalry between Odell Beckham and Josh Norman.
I understand coverages dictate where you throw the ball sometimes, I realize there are hot reads and teams blitz and you go to your hot receiver.. I just think there are points in games where you need to make sure Beckham is your first read. If he's not open, you can look elsewhere but the way he was going on Sunday, you bet your ass he was going to be open.
The other receiving options were also pathetic. He was the only threat we had and he still produced week in and week out.
The other receiving options were also pathetic. He was the only threat we had and he still produced week in and week out.
but Arc, GT says it's because he's a loser you will never win with. Plus he dances, that says a lot!
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that he was not happy with the game plan in the first half. Now I am thinking that his freak out session on the sideline was all about the ball going to Tye in that big spot.
I agree with you. Making it even worse for him IMO, was it happened on a 1st down play and he never got an opportunity during that series.
Somehow I think if they went his way on 1st and or 2nd down and then the play to Tye happened on 3rd down, I don't think he reacts the same way. I really think never getting a chance that series pissed him off big time, and I don't really blame him for being pissed.
He was beating Norman like a drum. Cruz & Shep were winning their battles too. Skins lose 2 starters from their secondary and Mac doesn't even test their replacements. Giants got to 14 points and Mac started playing against the time on the game clock instead of the opponent. It was a chickenshit approach, that started early and let the Skins stay in the game.
I really didn't get it at all either. I really don't enjoy Mac as a play caller. I think sometimes he's more focused on being balanced rather than just continuously attack the other teams weakness.
If something is working, just stick with it! They really needed to do a better job taking advantage of that decimated secondary, Oh well.
This was a common theme in the Coughlin era...but Coughlin ain't here no more.
Oh I am nit saying that, even though I am tough on him. I think a lot of other people are missing the point.
We moved the ball at will the last two weeks, but whether it was turnovers, penalties, drops, or whatever we faield in the red zone. Now if we are talking about getting him the ball in the red zone, giddy up. But we have had open guys in position to make plays, and they havent.
Clean it up, and ther eare no issues.
That's pretty much where he was last year too.
I'm the guy that spent all offseason bitching about giving Vernon money because we were a Beckham sprained ankle from being 1-4. I don't need to be reminded of how good he is.
My point isn't about how good a receiver he is, it's about the coaches trying to put together the best possible game plan to win games. If that involves throwing it to Beckham a lot, great. But if it involves him getting the ball less than he's used to, then he needs to be OK with that.
Either way, do your job and turn off the waterworks. No one gives a shit about your feelings.
i have been saying that since it happened. it was clear as day he was pissed at Tye...we had ALOT of momentum and that INT really threw it all away and it was 100% Tye's fault...the ball was in a perfect spot. youre a big TE use your body, keep your leverage and catch the ball 85% of TEs in the NFL catch that for 6
LOL
It's called situational awareness. He had you chance to just catch the ball and he dropped it. Dropped the opening drive bomb from Eli against Carolina which could have been a tone setter. Dropped a sure TD against NO.
And he's bitchin' about his opportunities? Fuck outta here, crybaby ass N#$%@. Foh real.
No. Get the ball to perhaps the best offensive player in the sport as many times as possible. I know you love defending Eli blindly, but the Giants are much better offense when Odell has the ball in his hands.
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Should help the Giants win more games.. no?
Using my best radar impresonation...
Has it in the past?
The Giants had a better offense in the past, yes. Do you expect Odell to help the defense too?
Ninja. Got you, stupid.
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Should help the Giants win more games.. no?
Using my best radar impresonation...
Has it in the past?
Idk truthfully but my eyes tell me he's more useful with the ball than he is as a fucking decoy. When you played the 49ers you knew the ball was going to Rice that didn't make it any easier to stop, those teams won alot of games.