NFT: 9/30/16 FF Thread

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You have a good team imo. Start Carr, Sanders, Forte and Brate to go along with AJ and you will have a ton of points this week.

and Blount

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with Hill doing nothing in one league, and Bernard (started over Winston at OP with Winston facing Denver) doing nothing in my other league.

Good thing those Dolphins sold out to stop the run all night while allowing AJG to get single coverage on the outside and consistent 15 yard cushion! I've never seen so much easy pitch & catch - great strategy!

was offered Edelman and Charles (who will play this week) for Antonio Brown.

Will definitely decline but may counter offer. Would you do:
1- Evans and Charles for Brown

OR
2- Hopkins and Charles for Brown?

My Current Team:
QB: Stafford, Brady
RB: Lacy, Deangelo Williams, RYan Mathews, Sproles, Darkwa
WR: Brown, Cooks, Marvin Jones, Moncrief
TE: Rudolph
K: Tucker
DEF: By Committee

I like his upside, but that's because he cost me nothing (last round pick). I wouldn't trade a valuable piece for him....yet. Unless of course you think he's 100% back (he didn't practice yesterday).

In comment 13149169 Koldegaard said:

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You have a good team imo. Start Carr, Sanders, Forte and Brate to go along with AJ and you will have a ton of points this week.

Thanks man. I have a RB/WR flex spot too. Jeffery or Diggs? or roll with one of the ATL backs?

I would have thought you can probably do better than Brate against Tampa to stream. OTOH, Brate was huge last week and Winston is probably going to have to do plenty of check downs to him. With that team I wouldn't move a back for a TE

In other news, Josh Gordon made my decision pretty easy, so I pulled the trigger up Doug Martin.

Now I just need a QB!

In comment 13149185 kash94 said:

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was offered Edelman and Charles (who will play this week) for Antonio Brown. Will definitely decline but may counter offer. Would you do: 1- Evans and Charles for Brown OR 2- Hopkins and Charles for Brown? My Current Team: QB: Stafford, Brady RB: Lacy, Deangelo Williams, RYan Mathews, Sproles, Darkwa WR: Brown, Cooks, Marvin Jones, Moncrief TE: Rudolph K: Tucker DEF: By Committee

If you really want to do the trade, I'd do Evans and Charles for Brown (If its PPR I like Edelman, too esp since you have Brady). However, Charles has burned me so much in the past I just can't ever have him on my team. If he stays healthy you'll be in great shape though.

but if you add another piece you might.

say Brown and Matthews for Charles and Hopkins.

Ryan has a history of injury and might miss more time as the season goes on.

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In comment 13149185 kash94 said: Quote: was offered Edelman and Charles (who will play this week) for Antonio Brown. Will definitely decline but may counter offer. Would you do: 1- Evans and Charles for Brown OR 2- Hopkins and Charles for Brown? My Current Team: QB: Stafford, Brady RB: Lacy, Deangelo Williams, RYan Mathews, Sproles, Darkwa WR: Brown, Cooks, Marvin Jones, Moncrief TE: Rudolph K: Tucker DEF: By Committee If you really want to do the trade, I'd do Evans and Charles for Brown (If its PPR I like Edelman, too esp since you have Brady). However, Charles has burned me so much in the past I just can't ever have him on my team. If he stays healthy you'll be in great shape though.

Thanks - yea completely fair re: Charles. Even when he comes back, he will split carries.

with Brees on bye and I may pick up a QB streamer now to get ahead...Wentz @ Det, Flacco v Wash, or Siemian v ATL?

In comment 13149229 Mr Brightside said:

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with Brees on bye and I may pick up a QB streamer now to get ahead...Wentz @ Det, Flacco v Wash, or Siemian v ATL?

Wentz or Siemian I think. Maybe Wentz

In comment 13149229 Mr Brightside said:

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with Brees on bye and I may pick up a QB streamer now to get ahead...Wentz @ Det, Flacco v Wash, or Siemian v ATL?

Wentz

Coleman could be the starter by the end of the season and Graham is doing nothing in Seattle.

In comment 13149340 EricJ said:

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Coleman could be the starter by the end of the season and Graham is doing nothing in Seattle.

Graham had 100 yards and a TD last week.

I would not do that trade though.

Got offered

1- David Johnson
2- Travis Benjamin
3- Victor Cruz

For
1- Antonio Brown
2- Ryan Mathews
3- Orleans Darkwa

Ugh owner just cancelled it though lol. Was about to do it

In comment 13149380 kash94 said:

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Got offered 1- David Johnson 2- Travis Benjamin 3- Victor Cruz For 1- Antonio Brown 2- Ryan Mathews 3- Orleans Darkwa Ugh owner just cancelled it though lol. Was about to do it

You should be glad he did. I like David Johnson a lot, but if he goes down, you lose that trade enormously. RB is too volatile a position to give up the premier fantasy asset for in Antonio Brown.

In comment 13149340 EricJ said:

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Coleman could be the starter by the end of the season and Graham is doing nothing in Seattle.

Maybe you don't like his season long outlook, but he's hardly doing nothing. He's 2nd on the team in receiving yards and that's after missing half of game 1, and some of game 2 as they were managing his reps.

I also wouldn't do the trade right now, but if he has another couple weeks like week 3, he's an every week TE1.

out this week, not yet sure about surgery.

In comment 13149185 kash94 said:

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was offered Edelman and Charles (who will play this week) for Antonio Brown. Will definitely decline but may counter offer. Would you do: 1- Evans and Charles for Brown OR 2- Hopkins and Charles for Brown? My Current Team: QB: Stafford, Brady RB: Lacy, Deangelo Williams, RYan Mathews, Sproles, Darkwa WR: Brown, Cooks, Marvin Jones, Moncrief TE: Rudolph K: Tucker DEF: By Committee

Just keep Brown. Don't get too cute with these trades. You have something the entire league wants. Be patient, protect your waivers, and strike on a RB if you want to improve that position. If you have room, go ahead and add Kenneth Dixon now if he's still available. Not only are RB points likely available on your waiver wire right now, they will assuredly be as the weeks go on. If you are set at RB, there is no reason to trade Brown. Smile as he racks up huge fantasy points for you, and not your competition.

In comment 13149367 SimpleMan said:

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In comment 13149340 EricJ said: Quote: Coleman could be the starter by the end of the season and Graham is doing nothing in Seattle. Graham had 100 yards and a TD last week. I would not do that trade though.

is that the first time since he went to Seattle over a year ago? Forget it... he is toast in that offense

i think that's pretty easy to see. Wilson is on pace for 539 attempts, over 50 more than last year, and almost 100 more than in 2014, and that was with a healthy, beasting Rawls. Now he's getting injured, that absolutely have to make him a pocket passer. Whether or not he's good at it for a full season is debatable, but he will definitely be looking at Graham who's his best weapon right now.

I don't feel like going back to do the numbers again but Graham before his injury last year was on pace for 50/800/3 or something to that effect. TE production has been abysmal this year so Graham could have a lot of value.

If you don't like him, that's perfectly fine. But he isn't "toast" until he gets injured.

Should I make a trade or stand put for now?
It's 1RB 2RB/WR 3WR 1TE 0.5 PPR

Phillip Rivers

Devonta Freeman
Theo Riddick
Tevin Coleman
Thomas Rawls
TJ Yeldon
Matt Jones
Duke Johnson

Amari Cooper
Julio Jones
Jarvis Landry
Travis Benjamin
Josh Gordon (fuck?)
Michael Thomas
Tavon Austin

Julius Thomas
Hunter Henry (this weeks insurance Thomas Questionable)

Gano

Chiefs

I had to check and he was on pace for 70/880/3 last season. Most fantasy managers would sign up for that right now out of their TE. There's 1 TE with over 200 yards, 5 with 2 TD's, and 5 with 15 receptions or more, its been brutal.

In comment 13149422 UConn4523 said:

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out this week, not yet sure about surgery.

Thanks. This is frustrating news for me as in one league I have him, Rawls, and Doug Martin. If I hadn't drafted as well as I did I might be in trouble. And this is the part where I show off my team. Note - I did a trade of Le'Veon Bell, Mariota, and Amari Cooper for Russell Wilson, Martin (pre-injury), and OBJ:

Lineup:

Eli
Blount
DeMarco Murray
Julio Jones
OBJ
Kelce

Bench

Tevin Coleman
Russell Wilson
Doug Martin
Rawls
Decker
Jordan Matthews
Zach Miller

K - Justin Tucker
DEF - NY Giants (I believe)

In comment 13149432 UConn4523 said:

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but he will definitely be looking at Graham who's his best weapon right now.

His best weapon is Baldwin. But Graham is a solid #2 option and red zone target. The guy who loses this year with Graham healthy is Lockett - so much for a breakout candidate... not even targeted last week.

In comment 13149437 DennyInDenville said:

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Should I make a trade or stand put for now? It's 1RB 2RB/WR 3WR 1TE 0.5 PPR Phillip Rivers Devonta Freeman Theo Riddick Tevin Coleman Thomas Rawls TJ Yeldon Matt Jones Duke Johnson Amari Cooper Julio Jones Jarvis Landry Travis Benjamin Josh Gordon (fuck?) Michael Thomas Tavon Austin Julius Thomas Hunter Henry (this weeks insurance Thomas Questionable) Gano Chiefs

It really depends on the trade. You obviously want RB help. Trying to understand your league settings... your RB is a flex? So you can start all WRs instead of RBs if you wanted? If so, stand pat. What's available at RB on waivers right now? I would definitely jettison Duke Johnson for Kenneth Dixon right now. I would rather have a high upside back up than Duke Johnson, like Devontae Booker or Mike Gillislee or even James Starks.

you have to start at minimum 1 RB. You are set up pretty good. You have Freeman, insurance with Coleman (who actually is a pretty good flex in standard leagues, even better in PPR), and Riddick, who has PPR appeal. You have a great set of receivers to go receiver heavy with. I would even look to drop some of your depth and scour for other receivers, too. Did someone drop Moncrief? I think Phillip Dorsett might be a good play for the next couple of weeks until Moncrief returns, also. Is Cole Beasley available? Great add for PPR. No need to trade.

and three different answers. LOL. Which maybe helps understand why I'm struggling with the decision.

Somehow wound up with 3 mediocre TE's in a non-PPR league.

Who do I start and who do I drop:

Fleener @SD
Pitta vs OAK
Ebron @CHI

I'm leaning toward starting Fleener (Brees is my QB) and cutting Ebron.

In comment 13149451 MetsAreBack said:

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In comment 13149432 UConn4523 said: Quote: but he will definitely be looking at Graham who's his best weapon right now. His best weapon is Baldwin. But Graham is a solid #2 option and red zone target. The guy who loses this year with Graham healthy is Lockett - so much for a breakout candidate... not even targeted last week.

It isn't Baldwin if Graham is 100%, just no chance. Baldwin is rarely a mismatch, although he is a good WR. Graham when 100% is always a mismatch, the quest is whether he's 100% and if he is, how long does that last.

In comment 13149465 pjcas18 said:

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and three different answers. LOL. Which maybe helps understand why I'm struggling with the decision. Somehow wound up with 3 mediocre TE's in a non-PPR league. Who do I start and who do I drop: Fleener @SD Pitta vs OAK Ebron @CHI I'm leaning toward starting Fleener (Brees is my QB) and cutting Ebron.

I don't like Ebron, but his targets are up I believe. I hate Fleener because he sucks, but he's in the perfect scenario which even mediocre players can thrive in. Pitta is very good when healthy, possibly the best of the 3.

I'd drop Ebron I guess and give Fleener 1 more chance to prove he's not a pussy.

has the most targets of the three, then Fleener.

With 24 and 23 respectively.

Olsen leads all TE's with 27 (for perspective).

Ebron has 20 targets.

Fleener only has 10 receptions on those 23 targets though the lowest of the three.

They're all just mediocre, TE's suck. Outside of a healthy Gronk which is about as rare as a leprechaun, and maybe Kelce and a healthy Eifert there aren't a lot of reliable TE's.

I like to agree and have been.

Just feel tempted to get Stafford (guy has Cam and thin at WR)

I would like to trade a bit of my RBs or last 2 WRs for either a nice TE or QB or additional WR or better RB

In comment 13149465 pjcas18 said:

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and three different answers. LOL. Which maybe helps understand why I'm struggling with the decision. Somehow wound up with 3 mediocre TE's in a non-PPR league. Who do I start and who do I drop: Fleener @SD Pitta vs OAK Ebron @CHI I'm leaning toward starting Fleener (Brees is my QB) and cutting Ebron.

I think you play Fleener this week. And I'd hold on to the other two for now. On any outside road game (except this one), you bench Fleener. Play him at home and in road domes. I think Ebron's value is real, and he's the safest. If someone will bite on Pitta for Rudolph, do it. I think Rudolph is a big part of the offense going forward, and has double digit TD upside this season. I don't trust Pitta to stay healthy, his injuries have been of the very significant variety, and he doesn't exactly play in a juggernaut offense. When it's close, choose the guys in the more productive offense.

In comment 13149500 pjcas18 said:

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has the most targets of the three, then Fleener. With 24 and 23 respectively. Olsen leads all TE's with 27 (for perspective). Ebron has 20 targets. Fleener only has 10 receptions on those 23 targets though the lowest of the three. They're all just mediocre, TE's suck. Outside of a healthy Gronk which is about as rare as a leprechaun, and maybe Kelce and a healthy Eifert there aren't a lot of reliable TE's.

Yeah I think Pitta is the best overall of the 3, but they want to turn into a running team (and hopefully they will as a Dixon owner, no offense). Ebron is a physical freak but that hasn't clicked yet. And Fleener just isn't very good but has the best situation by a mile. So yeah, you'll be rolling the dice, haha.

I've got Olsen and Graham and hoping I can start using both each week.

I like Stafford also, but with your league settings, WR is at a big premium and I would not deal away your strength, especially with bye weeks here and your lack of RB depth.

Is Wentz available? I like him going forward. But don't do anything drastic. You have Rivers and he's good enough to give you a chance at winning most weeks. I would stream QB on really tough matchup weeks (like against the Broncos).

In comment 13149183 MetsAreBack said:

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Good thing those Dolphins sold out to stop the run all night while allowing AJG to get single coverage on the outside and consistent 15 yard cushion! I've never seen so much easy pitch & catch - great strategy!

Hopefully the Vikings admired that strategy enough to deploy it against us on Monday night.

In comment 13149513 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 13149500 pjcas18 said: Quote: has the most targets of the three, then Fleener. With 24 and 23 respectively. Olsen leads all TE's with 27 (for perspective). Ebron has 20 targets. Fleener only has 10 receptions on those 23 targets though the lowest of the three. They're all just mediocre, TE's suck. Outside of a healthy Gronk which is about as rare as a leprechaun, and maybe Kelce and a healthy Eifert there aren't a lot of reliable TE's. Yeah I think Pitta is the best overall of the 3, but they want to turn into a running team (and hopefully they will as a Dixon owner, no offense). Ebron is a physical freak but that hasn't clicked yet. And Fleener just isn't very good but has the best situation by a mile. So yeah, you'll be rolling the dice, haha. I've got Olsen and Graham and hoping I can start using both each week.

I have Dixon too, and I think BAL wants to be a running team, but so far with Forsett and West I wouldn't confuse them with the Earl Campbell Oilers.

So for now they have a good run/pass mix, and in fact they have more pass attempts than the Giants do and not nearly the depth or quality of receiver, so Pitta should be a safe bet going forward if he can stay healthy, I'm just not sure I like this weeks matchup for him vs OAK as much as Fleener @ SD.

I wish I had room to add him in my 10 team leagues. I just simply can't afford the drop for a speculative play, even one with the upside of Dixon.

to get some work next week and earn the bellcow role by mid season. Would really beef up my RB's and I think Harbaugh will commit to him if he shows even a pulse; West and Forsett just stink.

Rogers, who I was higher on, is out on MNF and Wheaton is still dealing with a sprained shoulder (and got benched for drops last week). They have to do something with those targets and I know it will be led by Brown/Bell but then who? Jesse James is taken but Coates is sitting there...

In comment 13149553 UConn4523 said:

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Rogers, who I was higher on, is out on MNF and Wheaton is still dealing with a sprained shoulder (and got benched for drops last week). They have to do something with those targets and I know it will be led by Brown/Bell but then who? Jesse James is taken but Coates is sitting there...

I like him, but maybe they involved DHB more. He's still there, right? It seems there is a DHB sighting once every 4 or 5 weeks.

he has a 4:15pm game and while I was going to just put in Graham, i'd rather roll the dice and hope Snead plays. If that backfires I need a backup plan which is someone on SNF or MNF.

In comment 13149553 UConn4523 said:

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Rogers, who I was higher on, is out on MNF and Wheaton is still dealing with a sprained shoulder (and got benched for drops last week). They have to do something with those targets and I know it will be led by Brown/Bell but then who? Jesse James is taken but Coates is sitting there...

If you're in a 12 team or more league and desperate, Coates is a guy you can pick up and he's a lottery ticket.

I believe he has the talent and physical gifts to be a good #2 opposite Brown. But Tomlin hasn't come to that conclusion yet apparently, and until he does, and Wheaton, DHB, and Rogers continue to muddy the waters for the foreseeable future, there are probably better options in free agency. Steve Smith might be on your waiver wire... got 11 targets last game. On my waiver wire in a 10 team league is also Beasley, DeSean Jackson, Tavon Austin, and Phillip Dorsett. I would take any of those guys before Coates right now, but Coates might be the better option if both Wheaton and Rogers are out this week.

its a deep league, most options are gone including all you listed. Someone did panic and drop Cruz. I don't really want to use a waiver claim on him, and I'd be starting Beckham and Cruz Monday night should Snead not pan out. Not a bad backup, but really don't want to use a waiver...

but now I see that he injured his ankle in practice? Ugh. Of course its on a week I have two players on Bye and really need him. Not to mention Jennings likely not playing on Monday. Hopefully its not serious, as I think he will produce against the Jags.

but if not, Doyle is a must add in a bind.

In comment 13149577 UConn4523 said:

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its a deep league, most options are gone including all you listed. Someone did panic and drop Cruz. I don't really want to use a waiver claim on him, and I'd be starting Beckham and Cruz Monday night should Snead not pan out. Not a bad backup, but really don't want to use a waiver...

Yeah, none of those guys or even Coates are available in my league.

my best waiver options right now are:

Devin Funchess
Rishard Matthews
Tedd Ginn, Jr
Clive Walford
Jack Doyle
Vance McDonald

and it's a non-mandatory TE league.

Not that I need anyone on waivers, but it's basically a wasteland of scrap heap guys with a 12-team league, 2 flex spots, and 8 person benches.

that's a lot of bench spots. We also do 2 FLEX but only 5 bench spots. We've tested a bunch of ways and are sticking with this format for good I think. 5 means you have to be very selective on how you drop, but atleast there's someone reasonable to be had in a bind.

I'd have to either roll the dice on Powell, hope Jennings is playing, or drop one of them for Darkwa, Coates, or Boldin or something. Not looking good. On the plus side, I'm up 40 points as I had A.J Green go last night.

then here's an out-of-the-box idea for you... Bobby Rainey. Vikings defense has been very stout against runners this season, but have allowed the 7th most receiving yards to RBs this season, as well as 2 TD's to RB's through the air (none on the ground). Rainey does have some ability to break a long one, and it's very risky, but I think he has at least as much upside in this specific match up as Darkwa.

I think I will wait until Sunday morning to do it. But if Dorsett doesn't suit up, i think your right and I will go Rainey.

but thanks to everyone who responded to my questions!

and Mathews/Matthews on the bye, I literally do not have a single player on my bench that is going to suit up. I will be scrambling if somebody turns an ankle in practice. Stewart, Moncrief and Martin all out.