games Odell has managed to accumulate significantly more on-field drama than Tiki did over 10 years.
Let me know when Odell starts doing interviews about teammates contract disputes and how they should be happy with what they got. And of course always letting his teammates know how much smarter he is than them.
My wife and I ran into Tiki on the 200 level on Sunday
trying to be leader. And said Coughlin got out coached again. But yeah he was no distraction like Odell hitting stuff on the sideline. Oh course Armstead and Strahan were just "dumb" football players. LMAO. No distractions at all.
RE: Tiki is also the same teammate that claimed he laughed at Eli
trying to be leader. And said Coughlin got out coached again. But yeah he was no distraction like Odell hitting stuff on the sideline. Oh course Armstead and Strahan were just "dumb" football players. LMAO. No distractions at all.
did you start watching this team last week? Do you really think "Odell hitting stuff" is the extent of poor behavior here so far? Do you really think Strahan was an angel during his time here as a player?
this Odell stuff cannot be more overblown. Dude showed some emotion, which would be fair to call a tantrum, on the sideline. BFD. Get over it, I'll enjoy the big plays and TDs (looking for him to breakthrough with a couple this week).
once in a while. The finest people in the world do inappropriate things every once in a while. If you are watched 24 hours a day and only the bad things are reported because the good things or not newsworthy, people will get the wrong impression of who or what you are.
contentious news item relate to the Giants and literally at no other time. No one reaches out to to Tiki for his opinion on Eli throwing for 350, the running game having an average game, or the secondary having a rough day at the office. But an ESPN click bait story? Odell up may have an attitude problem? Should Coughlin have been forced into retirement? Any chance for a controversial sound byte? Call up Tiki, hell, it's about all he's good for. Well, that and leaving the woman who stuck by you through your learn years when she's 8 months pregnant with your child for a female equivalent of a mid-life crisis Ferrari.
All I know is that it's gotta drive the guy absolutely mad when he turns on his TV every morning. For years he cultivated the media persona: trained, interned, practiced, and ultimately retired early for a career in the media that culminated in him wearing a dragon costume and calling a woman the "C" word at the Olympics. Meanwhile his not-so-good buddy Strahan sticks around, gets the ring, rides off into the sunset a SB hero and Giants all time favorite, decides to throw his hat in the TV broadcasting ring without seemingly much throught, and before you know it he's one of the most loved on-air personalities in America. I'm not saying Strahan didn't work very hard to get to where he is, I read an article not to long ago about just how grueling his schedule is, especially during football season, but it sure seems like "fell into" the career Tiki groomed himself for years.
While I don't wish Tiki any ill will (it's not worth the time, effort, or consideration), I do get a kick out of that. Of course he'd say it doesn't bother him. But Strahan is making more than he did playing ball to appear on TV while Tiki is available to appear at your bachelor party. That's, ummm...what's the word..."comical"?
Don't tell that to Enzo. He doesn't stand for those antics talent be damned. If he were the coach Harris would be starting and OBj would be riding the bench
this Odell stuff cannot be more overblown. Dude showed some emotion, which would be fair to call a tantrum, on the sideline. BFD. Get over it, I'll enjoy the big plays and TDs (looking for him to breakthrough with a couple this week).
The beckham criticism is really mind blowing to me
contentious news item relate to the Giants and literally at no other time. No one reaches out to to Tiki for his opinion on Eli throwing for 350, the running game having an average game, or the secondary having a rough day at the office. But an ESPN click bait story? Odell up may have an attitude problem? Should Coughlin have been forced into retirement? Any chance for a controversial sound byte? Call up Tiki, hell, it's about all he's good for. Well, that and leaving the woman who stuck by you through your learn years when she's 8 months pregnant with your child for a female equivalent of a mid-life crisis Ferrari.
All I know is that it's gotta drive the guy absolutely mad when he turns on his TV every morning. For years he cultivated the media persona: trained, interned, practiced, and ultimately retired early for a career in the media that culminated in him wearing a dragon costume and calling a woman the "C" word at the Olympics. Meanwhile his not-so-good buddy Strahan sticks around, gets the ring, rides off into the sunset a SB hero and Giants all time favorite, decides to throw his hat in the TV broadcasting ring without seemingly much throught, and before you know it he's one of the most loved on-air personalities in America. I'm not saying Strahan didn't work very hard to get to where he is, I read an article not to long ago about just how grueling his schedule is, especially during football season, but it sure seems like "fell into" the career Tiki groomed himself for years.
While I don't wish Tiki any ill will (it's not worth the time, effort, or consideration), I do get a kick out of that. Of course he'd say it doesn't bother him. But Strahan is making more than he did playing ball to appear on TV while Tiki is available to appear at your bachelor party. That's, ummm...what's the word..."comical"?
Considering Tiki's opinion of Strahan and comments about him during their playing days, it's some Haman/Mordecai level stuff for Tiki to see Strahan get the post-football career he tried so hard to carve out for himself.
RE: RE: There's a reason we only hear from Tiki when there is a potentially
I read an article not to long ago about just how grueling his schedule is, especially during football season, but it sure seems like "fell into" the career Tiki groomed himself for years.
Considering Tiki's opinion of Strahan and comments about him during their playing days, it's some Haman/Mordecai level stuff for Tiki to see Strahan get the post-football career he tried so hard to carve out for himself.
See, I don't believe Tiki groomed himself at all. Like Strahan, Tiki was offered a position on a pre game show. Strahan accepted and appeared humble and sometimes awkward. He stuck to his values of endorsing the NY Giants and adamantly educated a FOX panel that the NYGiants would not turn their back on Plax after he shot himself.
Strahan's voice and delivery, even today IMO, is a bit so/so. He comes across as a guy reaching a bit beyond the viewers perceived limits yet it 's that honest effort which makes him likable. He also came out of nowhere as the media career appeared more like a guest who was trying to learn and just good enough to stick around until he became a regular.
On the flip side is Tiki. Forget the grooming, values, etc. He announces and speaks often about his future career while sporting a pretty blank resume. Sprints straight past a pre game and right to NBC sporting a sense of entitlement, arrogance and insulting the only good thing on his resume which was the NY Giants. Unlike Strahan, Tiki tried to appear more like a regular among real pros rather then a humble guest trying to learn. Add in his "opinion" of Coughlin in which was more insulting than complimentary and referring to Eli's leadership as a joke was a major turnoff for the listening audience. Tiki still doesn't understand why. His interview with Francesa was a disaster while, right or wrong, his attempted scolding of Gary Myers missed the mark and did more to expose Tiki as an undisciplined, unprofessional media wannabe with no credentials in the taxonomy as likiable, honest, trustworthy or ever humble.
RE: RE: RE: There's a reason we only hear from Tiki when there is a potentially
I read an article not to long ago about just how grueling his schedule is, especially during football season, but it sure seems like "fell into" the career Tiki groomed himself for years.
Considering Tiki's opinion of Strahan and comments about him during their playing days, it's some Haman/Mordecai level stuff for Tiki to see Strahan get the post-football career he tried so hard to carve out for himself.
See, I don't believe Tiki groomed himself at all. Like Strahan, Tiki was offered a position on a pre game show. Strahan accepted and appeared humble and sometimes awkward. He stuck to his values of endorsing the NY Giants and adamantly educated a FOX panel that the NYGiants would not turn their back on Plax after he shot himself.
Strahan's voice and delivery, even today IMO, is a bit so/so. He comes across as a guy reaching a bit beyond the viewers perceived limits yet it 's that honest effort which makes him likable. He also came out of nowhere as the media career appeared more like a guest who was trying to learn and just good enough to stick around until he became a regular.
On the flip side is Tiki. Forget the grooming, values, etc. He announces and speaks often about his future career while sporting a pretty blank resume. Sprints straight past a pre game and right to NBC sporting a sense of entitlement, arrogance and insulting the only good thing on his resume which was the NY Giants. Unlike Strahan, Tiki tried to appear more like a regular among real pros rather then a humble guest trying to learn. Add in his "opinion" of Coughlin in which was more insulting than complimentary and referring to Eli's leadership as a joke was a major turnoff for the listening audience. Tiki still doesn't understand why. His interview with Francesa was a disaster while, right or wrong, his attempted scolding of Gary Myers missed the mark and did more to expose Tiki as an undisciplined, unprofessional media wannabe with no credentials in the taxonomy as likiable, honest, trustworthy or ever humble.
won two Super Bowls after he left.....enough said.
Well to be fair, and if we're gonna rip him we owe him that much, without Tiki's week 17 performance I guess the Redskins game in which she went for 260 all-purpose yards in which she went for 260 all-purpose yards, including 235 on the ground and three touchdowns and win over Washington Coughlin in all likelihood is canned after 2006 season and the Giants don't win Super Bowl 42 the following year. I don't think Eli comes into his own and helps lead that team to a Super Bowl title if he is still on the team but it likely doesn't happen if not for his career finale the previous season. It's a bit of a strange situation actually. Don't get me wrong, I still think he's a self-important dick who's on the post football media relevance is dumping on his former team. But it's definitely one of those "hmmmm...I wonder...?" conversations. It's not like the guy do they have any gas left in the tank. He probably could've played another 3-4 seasons.
It's just really easy to forget stuff like that when he puts himself out there at such an asshole. Tiki Barber calling someone self-centered? That's like Greg Hardy calling someone unstable or Rueben Randle questioning someone's effort.
won two Super Bowls after he left.....enough said.
Well to be fair, and if we're gonna rip him we owe him that much, without Tiki's week 17 performance I guess the Redskins game in which she went for 260 all-purpose yards in which she went for 260 all-purpose yards, including 235 on the ground and three touchdowns and win over Washington Coughlin in all likelihood is canned after 2006 season and the Giants don't win Super Bowl 42 the following year. I don't think Eli comes into his own and helps lead that team to a Super Bowl title if he is still on the team but it likely doesn't happen if not for his career finale the previous season. It's a bit of a strange situation actually. Don't get me wrong, I still think he's a self-important dick who's on the post football media relevance is dumping on his former team. But it's definitely one of those "hmmmm...I wonder...?" conversations. It's not like the guy do they have any gas left in the tank. He probably could've played another 3-4 seasons.
It's just really easy to forget stuff like that when he puts himself out there at such an asshole. Tiki Barber calling someone self-centered? That's like Greg Hardy calling someone unstable or Rueben Randle questioning someone's effort.
Morning buddy. Imho, there was no way TC with his strong ties to the organization AND how long he was pursued (since his BC days) would have been fired after just 3 years here..Yes, Mara did ask him to clean things up with the press (which he did), but I don't believe he was ever in danger at that point regardless of what was opined on here and in the media..
RE: RE: RE: There's a reason we only hear from Tiki when there is a potentially
I read an article not to long ago about just how grueling his schedule is, especially during football season, but it sure seems like "fell into" the career Tiki groomed himself for years.
Considering Tiki's opinion of Strahan and comments about him during their playing days, it's some Haman/Mordecai level stuff for Tiki to see Strahan get the post-football career he tried so hard to carve out for himself.
See, I don't believe Tiki groomed himself at all.
That's simply not true. And it was a decade ago and longer but at the time there were all kinds of articles about how Tiki was spending each off-season preparing for a post football career in broadcasting. Internships, classes, all that stuff. He prepared for so long that he even made it clear that he retired early to begin his broadcasting career. I'll try to dig around and find some of the articles some of the articles. He wasn't just offered a broadcasting gig out of the blue. No former player who goes into broadcasting is, but Tiki prepared far more than most.
everything i wrote after that line was and is true. That's why I added to the message after that line. Selecting one line out of the entire message? Give me a break
won two Super Bowls after he left.....enough said.
Well to be fair, and if we're gonna rip him we owe him that much, without Tiki's week 17 performance I guess the Redskins game in which she went for 260 all-purpose yards in which she went for 260 all-purpose yards, including 235 on the ground and three touchdowns and win over Washington Coughlin in all likelihood is canned after 2006 season and the Giants don't win Super Bowl 42 the following year. I don't think Eli comes into his own and helps lead that team to a Super Bowl title if he is still on the team but it likely doesn't happen if not for his career finale the previous season. It's a bit of a strange situation actually. Don't get me wrong, I still think he's a self-important dick who's on the post football media relevance is dumping on his former team. But it's definitely one of those "hmmmm...I wonder...?" conversations. It's not like the guy do they have any gas left in the tank. He probably could've played another 3-4 seasons.
It's just really easy to forget stuff like that when he puts himself out there at such an asshole. Tiki Barber calling someone self-centered? That's like Greg Hardy calling someone unstable or Rueben Randle questioning someone's effort.
Morning buddy. Imho, there was no way TC with his strong ties to the organization AND how long he was pursued (since his BC days) would have been fired after just 3 years here..Yes, Mara did ask him to clean things up with the press (which he did), but I don't believe he was ever in danger at that point regardless of what was opined on here and in the media..
Damn there's a lot of typos in that post. Too early to type, using the voice command. Never quite works right, does it haha?
Anyway, it's a debatable point. I could easily be wrong but as I remember it, going into that week 17 game the prevailing sentiment was if the Giants lost Coughlin was likely finished. Hopes were high after winning the division in 05, and the season was punctuated by some awful losses like the Jacksonville game, the huge blown 4th qtr lead to the Titans, and the Seattle debacle.
did NOT announce his retirement early.
Others outed him. I never understood what the big deal was. he retired. you wanted him to continue, and hold it against him for retiring with his body intact.
He (correctly) called out Strahan went Strahan was being a fucktard, but otherwise was not in the news for being a problem, when he was a player.
his tv (off the field) persona was lackluster, but Tiki the player was a helluva guy.
and let's face it, Eli is not exactly a great leader personality. he's a good QB, leader, not so much. It was asshole for Tiki to point it out, but he was desperate to make himself relevant in the TV world.
did NOT announce his retirement early.
Others outed him. I never understood what the big deal was. he retired. you wanted him to continue, and hold it against him for retiring with his body intact.
He (correctly) called out Strahan went Strahan was being a fucktard, but otherwise was not in the news for being a problem, when he was a player.
his tv (off the field) persona was lackluster, but Tiki the player was a helluva guy.
and let's face it, Eli is not exactly a great leader personality. he's a good QB, leader, not so much. It was asshole for Tiki to point it out, but he was desperate to make himself relevant in the TV world.
Actually, a few games into the season there were absolute grumblings that Tiki had had enough..He made it rather plain this was it..
I've been one of Tikis biggest critics for his post playing career
and let's face it, Eli is not exactly a great leader personality. he's a good QB, leader, not so much. It was asshole for Tiki to point it out, but he was desperate to make himself relevant in the TV world.
Where are you pulling that from? Definitely not what these guys think, you know, his teammates.
Hes first-class in everything he does. When he talks, everybody listens, Wynn said.
He has the resume to back it, he has the blueprint. When he talks everyone listens, hes a great leader.
Everybody respects Eli, the things Elis done, everything hes been through, defensive tackle Cullen Jenkins said. Youve got to be motivated by those things he says.
On the topic of the thread, I loved Tiki as a player, but as a member of the media, I really don't care one way or the other what he says, which is how I feel about most media members.
RE: Don't EVER remind me of that '06 Titans' game..
Yeah, meltdown is an apt word. At the time I had recently gotten my first good promotion at my first good post-college job and moved into a nice duplex. I was there maybe a week? I was so enraged that I charged out of the building swearing like an idiot and making an ass out of myself in front of my new neighbors.I got in my car, peeled out of the lot, and drove I don't know how many blocks before I realized I had been drinking all afternoon. I parked and walked home, probably about a half mile. Only time in my adult life I've drove drunk.
did NOT announce his retirement early.
Others outed him. I never understood what the big deal was. he retired. you wanted him to continue, and hold it against him for retiring with his body intact.
"It's just one of those deals. I'm not going to lose any sleep
about what Tiki has to say," Manning said. "I guess I could have
questioned his leadership skills last year with calling out the
coach and having articles about him retiring in the middle of the
season, and he's lost the heart [to play].
RE: I've been one of Tikis biggest critics for his post playing career
stupid comments...but some of you are really overreacting here. If some other schlub said this about OBJ, it would barely register.
Of all the stupid, obnoxious, narcissistic things tiki has said or done since he retired, this isn't even on the list
Of course, but he brings it on himself..He has a NEED to comment. He feeds the dislike and refuses to stop. That's fine, but as long as fans such as myself are still irritated by him, he's going to get a reaction(s)..
Tiki lost credibility after he bashed Coughlin and Manning on NBC, and then they go right out and win a Superbowl. I think that was the spark the derailed his post Giants career.
everything i wrote after that line was and is true. That's why I added to the message after that line. Selecting one line out of the entire message? Give me a break
I often do that when replying to a long post just to save space, not to conveniently "edit" out parts that don't jive with my argument. I'm about to head out for dinner and some drinks but if I remember to when I get home I'll gladly point out why you were wrong.
everything i wrote after that line was and is true. That's why I added to the message after that line. Selecting one line out of the entire message? Give me a break
I often do that when replying to a long post just to save space, not to conveniently "edit" out parts that don't jive with my argument. I'm about to head out for dinner and some drinks but if I remember to when I get home I'll gladly point out why you were wrong.
Like Tiki, you won't get it on second or third try either.
everything i wrote after that line was and is true. That's why I added to the message after that line. Selecting one line out of the entire message? Give me a break
I often do that when replying to a long post just to save space, not to conveniently "edit" out parts that don't jive with my argument. I'm about to head out for dinner and some drinks but if I remember to when I get home I'll gladly point out why you were wrong.
Like Tiki, you won't get it on second or third try either.
Felt compelled to check in while waiting on our table, hahaha, well played Sir.
everything i wrote after that line was and is true. That's why I added to the message after that line. Selecting one line out of the entire message? Give me a break
I often do that when replying to a long post just to save space, not to conveniently "edit" out parts that don't jive with my argument. I'm about to head out for dinner and some drinks but if I remember to when I get home I'll gladly point out why you were wrong.
Like Tiki, you won't get it on second or third try either.
Felt compelled to check in while waiting on our table, hahaha, well played Sir.
Remember all those anonymous locker room source stories? They went away when Tiki left and haven't been back since.
Tiki is such a tool.
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Fair enough, but I don't think Tiki should be the one pointing it out.
Let me know when Odell starts doing interviews about teammates contract disputes and how they should be happy with what they got. And of course always letting his teammates know how much smarter he is than them.
did you start watching this team last week? Do you really think "Odell hitting stuff" is the extent of poor behavior here so far? Do you really think Strahan was an angel during his time here as a player?
"Eli Manning = Comical"
All I know is that it's gotta drive the guy absolutely mad when he turns on his TV every morning. For years he cultivated the media persona: trained, interned, practiced, and ultimately retired early for a career in the media that culminated in him wearing a dragon costume and calling a woman the "C" word at the Olympics. Meanwhile his not-so-good buddy Strahan sticks around, gets the ring, rides off into the sunset a SB hero and Giants all time favorite, decides to throw his hat in the TV broadcasting ring without seemingly much throught, and before you know it he's one of the most loved on-air personalities in America. I'm not saying Strahan didn't work very hard to get to where he is, I read an article not to long ago about just how grueling his schedule is, especially during football season, but it sure seems like "fell into" the career Tiki groomed himself for years.
While I don't wish Tiki any ill will (it's not worth the time, effort, or consideration), I do get a kick out of that. Of course he'd say it doesn't bother him. But Strahan is making more than he did playing ball to appear on TV while Tiki is available to appear at your bachelor party. That's, ummm...what's the word..."comical"?
Don't tell that to Enzo. He doesn't stand for those antics talent be damned. If he were the coach Harris would be starting and OBj would be riding the bench
In comment 13149602 allstarjim said:
2. He has never blamed teammates or coaches for anything
All I know is that it's gotta drive the guy absolutely mad when he turns on his TV every morning. For years he cultivated the media persona: trained, interned, practiced, and ultimately retired early for a career in the media that culminated in him wearing a dragon costume and calling a woman the "C" word at the Olympics. Meanwhile his not-so-good buddy Strahan sticks around, gets the ring, rides off into the sunset a SB hero and Giants all time favorite, decides to throw his hat in the TV broadcasting ring without seemingly much throught, and before you know it he's one of the most loved on-air personalities in America. I'm not saying Strahan didn't work very hard to get to where he is, I read an article not to long ago about just how grueling his schedule is, especially during football season, but it sure seems like "fell into" the career Tiki groomed himself for years.
While I don't wish Tiki any ill will (it's not worth the time, effort, or consideration), I do get a kick out of that. Of course he'd say it doesn't bother him. But Strahan is making more than he did playing ball to appear on TV while Tiki is available to appear at your bachelor party. That's, ummm...what's the word..."comical"?
Considering Tiki's opinion of Strahan and comments about him during their playing days, it's some Haman/Mordecai level stuff for Tiki to see Strahan get the post-football career he tried so hard to carve out for himself.
I read an article not to long ago about just how grueling his schedule is, especially during football season, but it sure seems like "fell into" the career Tiki groomed himself for years.
Considering Tiki's opinion of Strahan and comments about him during their playing days, it's some Haman/Mordecai level stuff for Tiki to see Strahan get the post-football career he tried so hard to carve out for himself.
See, I don't believe Tiki groomed himself at all. Like Strahan, Tiki was offered a position on a pre game show. Strahan accepted and appeared humble and sometimes awkward. He stuck to his values of endorsing the NY Giants and adamantly educated a FOX panel that the NYGiants would not turn their back on Plax after he shot himself.
Strahan's voice and delivery, even today IMO, is a bit so/so. He comes across as a guy reaching a bit beyond the viewers perceived limits yet it 's that honest effort which makes him likable. He also came out of nowhere as the media career appeared more like a guest who was trying to learn and just good enough to stick around until he became a regular.
On the flip side is Tiki. Forget the grooming, values, etc. He announces and speaks often about his future career while sporting a pretty blank resume. Sprints straight past a pre game and right to NBC sporting a sense of entitlement, arrogance and insulting the only good thing on his resume which was the NY Giants. Unlike Strahan, Tiki tried to appear more like a regular among real pros rather then a humble guest trying to learn. Add in his "opinion" of Coughlin in which was more insulting than complimentary and referring to Eli's leadership as a joke was a major turnoff for the listening audience. Tiki still doesn't understand why. His interview with Francesa was a disaster while, right or wrong, his attempted scolding of Gary Myers missed the mark and did more to expose Tiki as an undisciplined, unprofessional media wannabe with no credentials in the taxonomy as likiable, honest, trustworthy or ever humble.
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I read an article not to long ago about just how grueling his schedule is, especially during football season, but it sure seems like "fell into" the career Tiki groomed himself for years.
Considering Tiki's opinion of Strahan and comments about him during their playing days, it's some Haman/Mordecai level stuff for Tiki to see Strahan get the post-football career he tried so hard to carve out for himself.
See, I don't believe Tiki groomed himself at all. Like Strahan, Tiki was offered a position on a pre game show. Strahan accepted and appeared humble and sometimes awkward. He stuck to his values of endorsing the NY Giants and adamantly educated a FOX panel that the NYGiants would not turn their back on Plax after he shot himself.
Strahan's voice and delivery, even today IMO, is a bit so/so. He comes across as a guy reaching a bit beyond the viewers perceived limits yet it 's that honest effort which makes him likable. He also came out of nowhere as the media career appeared more like a guest who was trying to learn and just good enough to stick around until he became a regular.
On the flip side is Tiki. Forget the grooming, values, etc. He announces and speaks often about his future career while sporting a pretty blank resume. Sprints straight past a pre game and right to NBC sporting a sense of entitlement, arrogance and insulting the only good thing on his resume which was the NY Giants. Unlike Strahan, Tiki tried to appear more like a regular among real pros rather then a humble guest trying to learn. Add in his "opinion" of Coughlin in which was more insulting than complimentary and referring to Eli's leadership as a joke was a major turnoff for the listening audience. Tiki still doesn't understand why. His interview with Francesa was a disaster while, right or wrong, his attempted scolding of Gary Myers missed the mark and did more to expose Tiki as an undisciplined, unprofessional media wannabe with no credentials in the taxonomy as likiable, honest, trustworthy or ever humble.
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Well to be fair, and if we're gonna rip him we owe him that much, without Tiki's week 17 performance I guess the Redskins game in which she went for 260 all-purpose yards in which she went for 260 all-purpose yards, including 235 on the ground and three touchdowns and win over Washington Coughlin in all likelihood is canned after 2006 season and the Giants don't win Super Bowl 42 the following year. I don't think Eli comes into his own and helps lead that team to a Super Bowl title if he is still on the team but it likely doesn't happen if not for his career finale the previous season. It's a bit of a strange situation actually. Don't get me wrong, I still think he's a self-important dick who's on the post football media relevance is dumping on his former team. But it's definitely one of those "hmmmm...I wonder...?" conversations. It's not like the guy do they have any gas left in the tank. He probably could've played another 3-4 seasons.
It's just really easy to forget stuff like that when he puts himself out there at such an asshole. Tiki Barber calling someone self-centered? That's like Greg Hardy calling someone unstable or Rueben Randle questioning someone's effort.
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won two Super Bowls after he left.....enough said.
Well to be fair, and if we're gonna rip him we owe him that much, without Tiki's week 17 performance I guess the Redskins game in which she went for 260 all-purpose yards in which she went for 260 all-purpose yards, including 235 on the ground and three touchdowns and win over Washington Coughlin in all likelihood is canned after 2006 season and the Giants don't win Super Bowl 42 the following year. I don't think Eli comes into his own and helps lead that team to a Super Bowl title if he is still on the team but it likely doesn't happen if not for his career finale the previous season. It's a bit of a strange situation actually. Don't get me wrong, I still think he's a self-important dick who's on the post football media relevance is dumping on his former team. But it's definitely one of those "hmmmm...I wonder...?" conversations. It's not like the guy do they have any gas left in the tank. He probably could've played another 3-4 seasons.
It's just really easy to forget stuff like that when he puts himself out there at such an asshole. Tiki Barber calling someone self-centered? That's like Greg Hardy calling someone unstable or Rueben Randle questioning someone's effort.
Morning buddy. Imho, there was no way TC with his strong ties to the organization AND how long he was pursued (since his BC days) would have been fired after just 3 years here..Yes, Mara did ask him to clean things up with the press (which he did), but I don't believe he was ever in danger at that point regardless of what was opined on here and in the media..
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I read an article not to long ago about just how grueling his schedule is, especially during football season, but it sure seems like "fell into" the career Tiki groomed himself for years.
Considering Tiki's opinion of Strahan and comments about him during their playing days, it's some Haman/Mordecai level stuff for Tiki to see Strahan get the post-football career he tried so hard to carve out for himself.
See, I don't believe Tiki groomed himself at all.
That's simply not true. And it was a decade ago and longer but at the time there were all kinds of articles about how Tiki was spending each off-season preparing for a post football career in broadcasting. Internships, classes, all that stuff. He prepared for so long that he even made it clear that he retired early to begin his broadcasting career. I'll try to dig around and find some of the articles some of the articles. He wasn't just offered a broadcasting gig out of the blue. No former player who goes into broadcasting is, but Tiki prepared far more than most.
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won two Super Bowls after he left.....enough said.
Well to be fair, and if we're gonna rip him we owe him that much, without Tiki's week 17 performance I guess the Redskins game in which she went for 260 all-purpose yards in which she went for 260 all-purpose yards, including 235 on the ground and three touchdowns and win over Washington Coughlin in all likelihood is canned after 2006 season and the Giants don't win Super Bowl 42 the following year. I don't think Eli comes into his own and helps lead that team to a Super Bowl title if he is still on the team but it likely doesn't happen if not for his career finale the previous season. It's a bit of a strange situation actually. Don't get me wrong, I still think he's a self-important dick who's on the post football media relevance is dumping on his former team. But it's definitely one of those "hmmmm...I wonder...?" conversations. It's not like the guy do they have any gas left in the tank. He probably could've played another 3-4 seasons.
It's just really easy to forget stuff like that when he puts himself out there at such an asshole. Tiki Barber calling someone self-centered? That's like Greg Hardy calling someone unstable or Rueben Randle questioning someone's effort.
Morning buddy. Imho, there was no way TC with his strong ties to the organization AND how long he was pursued (since his BC days) would have been fired after just 3 years here..Yes, Mara did ask him to clean things up with the press (which he did), but I don't believe he was ever in danger at that point regardless of what was opined on here and in the media..
Damn there's a lot of typos in that post. Too early to type, using the voice command. Never quite works right, does it haha?
Anyway, it's a debatable point. I could easily be wrong but as I remember it, going into that week 17 game the prevailing sentiment was if the Giants lost Coughlin was likely finished. Hopes were high after winning the division in 05, and the season was punctuated by some awful losses like the Jacksonville game, the huge blown 4th qtr lead to the Titans, and the Seattle debacle.
Others outed him. I never understood what the big deal was. he retired. you wanted him to continue, and hold it against him for retiring with his body intact.
He (correctly) called out Strahan went Strahan was being a fucktard, but otherwise was not in the news for being a problem, when he was a player.
his tv (off the field) persona was lackluster, but Tiki the player was a helluva guy.
and let's face it, Eli is not exactly a great leader personality. he's a good QB, leader, not so much. It was asshole for Tiki to point it out, but he was desperate to make himself relevant in the TV world.
Others outed him. I never understood what the big deal was. he retired. you wanted him to continue, and hold it against him for retiring with his body intact.
He (correctly) called out Strahan went Strahan was being a fucktard, but otherwise was not in the news for being a problem, when he was a player.
his tv (off the field) persona was lackluster, but Tiki the player was a helluva guy.
and let's face it, Eli is not exactly a great leader personality. he's a good QB, leader, not so much. It was asshole for Tiki to point it out, but he was desperate to make himself relevant in the TV world.
Actually, a few games into the season there were absolute grumblings that Tiki had had enough..He made it rather plain this was it..
Of all the stupid, obnoxious, narcissistic things tiki has said or done since he retired, this isn't even on the list
Where are you pulling that from? Definitely not what these guys think, you know, his teammates.
From this link, Kerry Wynn
He has the resume to back it, he has the blueprint. When he talks everyone listens, hes a great leader.
From, here
On the topic of the thread, I loved Tiki as a player, but as a member of the media, I really don't care one way or the other what he says, which is how I feel about most media members.
Yeah, meltdown is an apt word. At the time I had recently gotten my first good promotion at my first good post-college job and moved into a nice duplex. I was there maybe a week? I was so enraged that I charged out of the building swearing like an idiot and making an ass out of myself in front of my new neighbors.I got in my car, peeled out of the lot, and drove I don't know how many blocks before I realized I had been drinking all afternoon. I parked and walked home, probably about a half mile. Only time in my adult life I've drove drunk.
Others outed him. I never understood what the big deal was. he retired. you wanted him to continue, and hold it against him for retiring with his body intact.
"It's just one of those deals. I'm not going to lose any sleep
about what Tiki has to say," Manning said. "I guess I could have
questioned his leadership skills last year with calling out the
coach and having articles about him retiring in the middle of the
season, and he's lost the heart [to play].
Of all the stupid, obnoxious, narcissistic things tiki has said or done since he retired, this isn't even on the list
Of course, but he brings it on himself..He has a NEED to comment. He feeds the dislike and refuses to stop. That's fine, but as long as fans such as myself are still irritated by him, he's going to get a reaction(s)..
Well, he did drive an Escalade
I often do that when replying to a long post just to save space, not to conveniently "edit" out parts that don't jive with my argument. I'm about to head out for dinner and some drinks but if I remember to when I get home I'll gladly point out why you were wrong.
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everything i wrote after that line was and is true. That's why I added to the message after that line. Selecting one line out of the entire message? Give me a break
I often do that when replying to a long post just to save space, not to conveniently "edit" out parts that don't jive with my argument. I'm about to head out for dinner and some drinks but if I remember to when I get home I'll gladly point out why you were wrong.
Like Tiki, you won't get it on second or third try either.
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everything i wrote after that line was and is true. That's why I added to the message after that line. Selecting one line out of the entire message? Give me a break
I often do that when replying to a long post just to save space, not to conveniently "edit" out parts that don't jive with my argument. I'm about to head out for dinner and some drinks but if I remember to when I get home I'll gladly point out why you were wrong.
Like Tiki, you won't get it on second or third try either.
Felt compelled to check in while waiting on our table, hahaha, well played Sir.
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In comment 13150016 Giants2012 said:
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everything i wrote after that line was and is true. That's why I added to the message after that line. Selecting one line out of the entire message? Give me a break
I often do that when replying to a long post just to save space, not to conveniently "edit" out parts that don't jive with my argument. I'm about to head out for dinner and some drinks but if I remember to when I get home I'll gladly point out why you were wrong.
Like Tiki, you won't get it on second or third try either.
Felt compelled to check in while waiting on our table, hahaha, well played Sir.
Have you been seated yet?