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Francesa on Beckham

blueblood'11 : 10/6/2016 2:29 pm
Says the Giants are placating him. Alludes to how they handled Shockey and they are going to ruin him like they ruined Shockey. Basically putting the Giants down with disgust.

With that said I want to see if has the nerve to tell McAdoo those same sentiments and in that same authoritative holier then thou manner when he interviews him at 4:30.

I saw very few similarities in the two players  
UConn4523 : 10/6/2016 2:31 pm : link
when it comes to talent, production, on the field and off the field behavior. I just think its a bad comparison and one that's pretty damn lazy.

Francesa comes from a different generation so I can't hate him for his stance. But I really don't see the comparisons at all.
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arcarsenal : 10/6/2016 2:31 pm : link
So does anyone NOT have an opinion on Beckham today?

Holy shit. Sunday cannot come fast enough. I can't believe how ridiculously overblown this has become.
Shockey ruined Shockey.  
Doug in MA : 10/6/2016 2:34 pm : link
OBJ appears to put way more into getting better at football than Shockey did...could be wrong but OBJ seems like a much smarter football player.

Speaking of Francesca...wish Sour Shoes would call in as Arty and disagree with him...guy is amazing when he pisses of Francesca.
funny because monday he defended the giants and beckham  
nygiants16 : 10/6/2016 2:34 pm : link
must need to vhange his story to get ratings up
I like Francesca but he is  
joeinpa : 10/6/2016 2:34 pm : link
Off on this one. His analysis is not supported by fact. To call. Beckham out of control Mon is to twist what occurred to fit a narrative.
Funny but some Francesa say the same thing about how WFAN  
Mason : 10/6/2016 2:35 pm : link
has handled him through the years. Since they stop treating him with kid gloves is one of the main reasons why he is departing the station. I wonder if that is what the Giants fear too about OBJ?
Francesa colleagues  
Mason : 10/6/2016 2:35 pm : link
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Have Trump and Hillary weighed in on Odell yet?  
bceagle05 : 10/6/2016 2:42 pm : link
Maybe Anderson Cooper will pose the question during the debate on Sunday.
injuries ruined Shockey  
giants#1 : 10/6/2016 2:44 pm : link
Now his aggressive playing style is partly to blame for all the nagging injuries, but his 'downfall' wasn't due to personality issues.
How about we ask Obama  
chuckydee9 : 10/6/2016 2:44 pm : link
About what he thinks of OBJ and then ask the 2 presidential candidates to respond to whether or not they agree with Obama...
Hasn't anyone told him that we had the final thoughts on Beckham?  
Bramton1 : 10/6/2016 2:46 pm : link
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Rick5 : 10/6/2016 2:47 pm : link
In comment 13160800 arcarsenal said:
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So does anyone NOT have an opinion on Beckham today?

Holy shit. Sunday cannot come fast enough. I can't believe how ridiculously overblown this has become.

Agreed.
I hate that fat asshole  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/6/2016 2:48 pm : link
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I have Beckham fatigue  
allstarjim : 10/6/2016 2:50 pm : link
1. Francessa is a blowhard moron; who cares what he thinks.

2. This really has to stop. Odell is fine. He needs to tone down the demonstrative displays a little, but that shouldn't be weeklong headline worthy.

3. I can't wait for him to have a game like Julio just did... only with more touchdowns.
RE: How about we ask Obama  
oldhemi : 10/6/2016 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13160821 chuckydee9 said:
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About what he thinks of OBJ and then ask the 2 presidential candidates to respond to whether or not they agree with Obama...


This made me laugh! Not much does these days. Thanks!!!
I thought injuries  
phil in arizona : 10/6/2016 2:59 pm : link
had more to do with Shockey's impact than anything else.
Though I do  
phil in arizona : 10/6/2016 3:00 pm : link
think they could have utilized him a little better in the passing game in those early Coughlin years.
RE: How about we ask Obama  
T-Bone : 10/6/2016 3:03 pm : link
In comment 13160821 chuckydee9 said:
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About what he thinks of OBJ and then ask the 2 presidential candidates to respond to whether or not they agree with Obama...


LOL!
All this means  
KWhite2250 : 10/6/2016 3:06 pm : link
Is Beckham and the giants turned Mike down for an interview.
Shockey was the same Shockey  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 10/6/2016 3:11 pm : link
off and on the field. Same as Dez. Fratboy life manchildren all day everyday.

What makes Odell so strange to me is how he is so different off the field and on the field during games. He parties and enjoys the good life socially, but he's very measured and just talks in a very blasé manner. He is lauded for being an exceptionally hard worker unlike Shockey/Dez. But then he gets on the field and he flips a switch and becomes a totally different person.

The fact that it's something that he turns into on the sidelines makes it a weirder but I think it also improves the chances of him growing up.

/armchairpsychology
RE: Shockey ruined Shockey.  
EricJ : 10/6/2016 3:16 pm : link
In comment 13160802 Doug in MA said:
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OBJ appears to put way more into getting better at football than Shockey did...could be wrong but OBJ seems like a much smarter football player.


Well I am a huge OBJ fan but your comments here are just stupid. Shockey was the best TE in football at the time. OBJ is a smarter football player? How do you measure that? Retaliating against another player and getting penalties which help your team to lose is SMART FOOTBALL?
If and when he does score I hope he doesn't do everything from the  
gtt350 : 10/6/2016 4:02 pm : link
funky chicken to a split. god these guys look ridiculous
the difference  
Les in TO : 10/6/2016 4:06 pm : link
is that shockey was a terrible teammate, whereas from all accounts OBJ is a great locker room guy. both were/are highly emotional/passionate players that occasionally went too far in unsportsmanlike behavior on the field.
I wonder  
bignygfan : 10/6/2016 4:06 pm : link
what LBJ thinks about OBJ.

Imagine the two of them in the same room as Drake and the Kardashians!
He's accusing the Giants..  
Danthebigbluefan : 10/6/2016 4:24 pm : link
Of giving every possible excuse for OBJ to this point. Which is factually incorrect. Someone said it before, but Shockey ruined Shockey. He didn't put in the work and seemed to be a me-first player. Started in training camp with his fight with Seubert you could tell he was a divisive force who walked to beat of his own drum.

Francesa doesn't get it  
Emil : 10/6/2016 4:31 pm : link
He is ripping the team for defending Beckham claiming they are making excuses for him. Hardly! Point to anything said all week by the Giants organization that is not 100% accurate. This has been a holistic response.

The Giants have made it clear OBJ needs to keep his composure. They have made it clear his behavior has exacerbated the situation. They have made it clear they value him as a player and person, and want to see him succeed. They have made it clear they need to involve him in the game plan earlier in games (and don't give me the number of targets argument, it's not the number it's the type and when they occur). They have made it clear they think defensive players are baiting him, and getting away with it. And they have made it clear that defenses are afraid of him, and will use every trick in the book to stop him. But OBJ must overcome and mature.

How is this anything like Shockey?
Francessa is losing his mind.  
OBJ_AllDay : 10/6/2016 4:43 pm : link
yelling at McAdoo. McAdoo holding his own. Not giving the media what they want. "has odell's back" "flag came from 30 yards down the field not from the 2 officials right near the play"
McAdoo is killing this interview  
Emil : 10/6/2016 4:45 pm : link
In my opinion. He will not throw OBj under the bus to feed Francesa's show. The ridiculous thing is Francesca wants McAdoo to keep talking about something Francesa considers a distraction.

Can't wait til Francesa retires.
McAdoo thinks that the offense is turning the ball over too much  
Mason : 10/6/2016 4:51 pm : link
and it is a big part of failure on offense. I wonder who is turning it over a lot. Says last year defense got more turnovers.
I've defended Francesa on here at times  
bceagle05 : 10/6/2016 4:52 pm : link
but these past couple of years he's been atrocious. Uninformed, lazy, same tired format with the same guests (how much Gary Danielson can we take?), repeats the same shit over and over again - it's become a truly awful show. Some would say it always was, but I feel there's been a steep decline recently.
Francesa grew tired of McAdoo answers  
Mason : 10/6/2016 4:54 pm : link
and kinda dismissed him towards the end.
I started losing interest in him  
bceagle05 : 10/6/2016 4:55 pm : link
due to his obsession with Andrew Luck. It truly creeps me out the way he talks about the guy.
RE: I started losing interest in him  
Mason : 10/6/2016 5:02 pm : link
In comment 13161004 bceagle05 said:
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due to his obsession with Andrew Luck. It truly creeps me out the way he talks about the guy.


I thought at one point he was going to ask Matt Harvey if he likes him too.
Francesa has been trash for awhile now,  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/6/2016 5:03 pm : link
and I used to enjoy the show, but that was years ago.
Francesa said his staff thought McAdoo was going to hang up  
Mason : 10/6/2016 5:03 pm : link
on him.
Francesa said Eli grounded the ball on purpose but  
Mason : 10/6/2016 5:09 pm : link
Eli and McAdoo refused to admit it to him. This is according to Francesa
Francesa has such a bloated ego as of late  
micky : 10/6/2016 5:25 pm : link
that he's no longer good. Case in point, in interview yesterday (takling about Mets playoff game) he kept calling Bumgarner "Bam"garner. When callers called him out on it aftewards, he got all defensive and said "who cares how I call him or say it"..almost finding a way that he wasn't making a mistake in pronunciation.

Anyway, it's either his way or the highway..period
that bloviating knuckle dragger?  
littlejoe47 : 10/6/2016 6:45 pm : link
Comparing OBJ's character to Jeremy Shockey?

Beam me up, Scotty.
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yankees78 : 10/6/2016 7:54 pm : link
High pockets pushing big Mac to reveal dirty laundry,  
GiantsUA : 10/6/2016 8:01 pm : link
go pound salt roast beef cheeks.
the whole reason for this today  
SethFromAstoria : 10/6/2016 8:05 pm : link
was the same reason the Daily News had to basically argue with Pugh and others about why Beckham was in fact a problem. They ran with this story and this idea that this kid was the biggest issue in the nfl, and then his tea came out and said its all nonsense. So he had to stick to his bloated guns and had the balls to try to tell the head coach how to run his own team.
EricJ  
Doug in MA : 10/7/2016 12:33 pm : link
Stupid...solid use of words man.

Turf Toe...injury often caused by overuse of the foot and lack of appropriate muscle strengthening, cardiovascular conditioning, flexibility, balance, core strength, and posture. These are major factors in both prevention and prevention of reinjury.





reaction is gold  
SethFromAstoria : 10/8/2016 1:38 am : link
but i can't blame him for falling asleep once. I'd probably pass out every day
I thought McAdoo handled the Francessa interview well.  
Ira : 10/8/2016 8:20 am : link
Shockey was what he was. Beckham will work past this problem. Coughlin should stay out of it.
RE: I thought McAdoo handled the Francessa interview well.  
micky : 10/8/2016 8:43 am : link
In comment 13162777 Ira said:
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.................. Coughlin should stay out of it.


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