I rewatched the 1 st half. Hart was,epically awful. I counted him giving up 7 pressures. That doesn't even account for his,run blocking which was,also terrible. Almost every pass play was disrupted bc of Hart.
Second series was a perfect example
1 Hart doesn't pick up a stunt but eli barely completes a pass as he gets hit
2 false start
3 gives up almost immediately pressure
Flowers by contrast only gave up 2 pressures in the first half. In the 3rd series he gives up pressure but keeps his guy to the outside allowing eli to step up. In the end series he gives up pressure but he and Pugh were both engaged. Pugh for some reason. Disengaged when he sees a stunt and the rusher splits Pugh and flowers. I can't really tell if it's flowers fault
Now flowers might have regressed in the 2nd half but in the first half it was all Hart and it's not even close.
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I rewatched as well and Eli got to the point where the threat of a defender coming within 10 feet got Eli hurried
Not Only was he not ready to start at LT I really have
my doubts that he will do much better at RT ...
Thrown in his Temper and whatever he did in the off season
sure isn't showing up when he plays ..
Flowers. Wasn't great but rewatched the game. He was not the problem in the first half. Not even close.
Flowers. Wasn't great but rewatched the game. He was not the problem in the first half. Not even close.
9 pressure, 2 sacks, holding penalty, and a third sack negated by penalty.
Some LTs dont give that up in a year.
On one sack he has matthews stopped cold but eli steps up and matthews then Chases manning down. I don't think that's on flowers. The one truly awful play was the perry sack.
On one sack he has matthews stopped cold but eli steps up and matthews then Chases manning down. I don't think that's on flowers. The one truly awful play was the perry sack.
And his holding penalty negated a nice throw downfield too. In the first half.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1
this
He doesn't have the footwork to be a tackle.
Right there with you. I think he could be dominant there, and this teams version of William Roberts.
2 veteran starting offensive linemen needed to be signed this offseason. Instead 0 were.
The no huddle offense is killing our olinemen. They battle with the defense then quickly need to run to LOS only to squat for 15-20 seconds, listening to Eli go through the calls to finally calling hike then engaging the defense again. Some players can handle it and some maybe can't. Why not huddle up and call hike on the play that was called. Change up things because we are getting smoked on TOP
I'm all for firing Reese if they fire Chris Mara too.
Nope. No one said that, but the truth never seemed to concern you much.
Hart came down to earth......Flowers got his weekly hold.....So we are now comparing 1st rounders to 7th rounders?
For a first rounder, Flower's technique, flat out sucks...as for Hart, there is a reason he lasted to the 7th round....
This line has taken a Giant step back this year.....playing together as a unit hasn't seen the improvement, expected....
We gave Flowers the benefit of the doubt, because of his rookie status, and the ankle....where is the improvement over last season? Pugh is average nothing more...to me the biggest surprise is Richburg...he was the rock last season....he is not playing the same this year....Is it an injury? Jerry is Jerry....he is what he is....RT, whether Newhouse or Hart, is a liability.....
This line has underperformed over last season......is it the new Line Coach?
Agreed.
It's a beautiful situation.
Yes. Looks, unfortunately, like Giants fans (and the coaches) need to get past the fact that he was a top 10 pick we all hoped would be a bookend LT. RT looks fanciful too because he simply cannot handle speed rushers.
But he's massive. And decent in run blocking. You don't pick G in the top 10, yes. But it's too late now so you make the best of it and he can be a solid guard. Not the worst thing in the world if he can work out there.
And flowers is good for at least one drive-killing flag a game.
2 veteran starting offensive linemen needed to be signed this offseason. Instead 0 were.
Hey we got Beatty. Would like to see McAdoo asked about Beatty.
I watched the game last night and noticed the Panther's RT was having trouble with outside speed rushes and then they had the TE chip the edge rusher forcing him inside a bit. Enough to stop the pressure. The Giants did not do that at all.
Yes, Hart was not good on the wide rushes (neither was Flowers), but was fine otherwise.
Watch his collage highlights. The guy practically glides out there on the second level. I think he would make an excellent, punishing movement blocker at guard. He is great in space, even against shifty small guys. He hones in like a missile and envelops defenders. He would be devastating pulling from RG. The problem with Flowers is not his feet. This feet are great. It is apparently his technique.
It's invite only, not sure if there really was any choice in the matter.
Reese seems to have made up his mind that Flowers is a LT and to move him now would mean he made a mistake and that Reese will never do....