NFT: Fantasy Chat - 10/14

so I'm fine with that. I was happy the TD was called back.

One guy in our league started Rivers, Travis Benjamin, Emmanuel Sanders and Denver D. He's got a big hole to climb out of.

Had Denver/McManus vs Rivers in another and up 2-3 pts heading into the weekend. Not bad, but not great either.

Can't really complain. Minimal damage.

I did start Sanders in my Draft Kings league which didn't pay off at all but I can live with that.

drop Hunter Henry right before game time and picked up Coby Fleener.

whoops. I think.

Being offered
Odell
Sproles
Tyrell Williams

for
Gronk
Cobb
Foster

I have Kelvin Benjamin, Pryor, Crabtree as my other WRs
RBs are Michael Bell and Mckinnon

Thoughts?

and ended up working out.

In comment 13172779 ColinFiggs said:

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Being offered Odell Sproles Tyrell Williams for Gronk Cobb Foster I have Kelvin Benjamin, Pryor, Crabtree as my other WRs RBs are Michael Bell and Mckinnon Thoughts?

Do you have to start a TE?

In comment 13172779 ColinFiggs said:

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Being offered Odell Sproles Tyrell Williams for Gronk Cobb Foster I have Kelvin Benjamin, Pryor, Crabtree as my other WRs RBs are Michael Bell and Mckinnon Thoughts?

I would do that. You are getting rid of 3 injury prone players and are getting the best player in the deal. Gronk should be awesome....if healthy so that's really the only pause i'd give this trade.

In comment 13172779 ColinFiggs said:

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Being offered Odell Sproles Tyrell Williams for Gronk Cobb Foster I have Kelvin Benjamin, Pryor, Crabtree as my other WRs RBs are Michael Bell and Mckinnon Thoughts?

Do you start a TE? Essentially the trade is Gronk for Odell, the rest is just shuffling the deck chairs.

should've specified no mandatory tight end in this league.

In comment 13172793 ColinFiggs said:

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should've specified no mandatory tight end in this league.

Then I'd do the deal.

Dak or Eli this week?

To someone else hours before the game started for Crowell and Crabtree. He wanted the trade to go through so he could have CJ this week and I paused because I thought he'd go off. At least he was able to land booker from a Terrance west owner for Dixon in exchange. Swapping handcuffs.

I also made a trade shortly after. Landed Bennett, Riddick and Edelman for Cooks and Blount. I am a Reed owner so I thought this was necessary. I also think Riddick has a good weekly floor even if he doesn't get the TDs Blount gets.

In comment 13172799 Josh in the City said:

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Dak or Eli this week?

Dak. Higher floor, not sure how Zeke will do.

so last night's game was good for me cause I bet the chargers.

I really need a huge game from Miller and Beckham this week. Heres the matchup. My team is with Brees

Brees vs brady
Howard vs. mccoy
Miller vs. ingram
OBJ vs. Brown
Landry vs. Pryor
Gronk vs. edelman
J. Matthews vs. Meredith
Bailey vs. santos
Bills vs. Seattle

Both of our teams are projected to be the 2 highest totals of the week.

on the road in GB is a hard environment, if it was home I'd say Dak. If Eli isn't going to have a good game now, then I wouldn't start him at all moving forward until proven otherwise.

Jordan Howard, Ingram, Stewart, Ryan Mathews - Pick 2

Or should I flex one?

WR are Hopkins, Kelvin Benjamin and planning to flex Cooks.

Keeping Jordan Matthews on the bench.

Still nothing at QB, starting Alex Smith, but the rest of the team is stacked even with Decker and Moncrief out.

In comment 13172818 dep026 said:

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so last night's game was good for me cause I bet the chargers. I really need a huge game from Miller and Beckham this week. Heres the matchup. My team is with Brees Brees vs brady Howard vs. mccoy Miller vs. ingram OBJ vs. Brown Landry vs. Pryor Gronk vs. edelman J. Matthews vs. Meredith Bailey vs. santos Bills vs. Seattle Both of our teams are projected to be the 2 highest totals of the week.

That looks like it should be a close matchup - just based on projections.

on paper my matchup should be a blowout (if the Giants show up), but I'll likely lose:

Eli vs. Stafford
Beckham vs. Jamison Crowder
Landry vs. Dez Bryant
Gurley vs D. Murray
J. Howard vs. Hyde
S. Shepard vs. Ertz
Kelce vs Miller
Sturgis vs Tucker
Buffalo D vs Pittsburgh

you may want to get rid of him.

In comment 13172820 VenteSette said:

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Jordan Howard, Ingram, Stewart, Ryan Mathews - Pick 2 Or should I flex one? WR are Hopkins, Kelvin Benjamin and planning to flex Cooks. Keeping Jordan Matthews on the bench. Still nothing at QB, starting Alex Smith, but the rest of the team is stacked even with Decker and Moncrief out.

Not sure if joking, but Howard and then Ingram if healthy. I don't trust Stewart yet until I see it, and Matthews is an injury waiting to happen.

and only had DE, Wolfe. Came out of the game down 10-1 --definitely ok with that.

some teams are either in need of a QB or a RB so I can propose the following, not sure how anyone would rank them. It's 14 team full PPR.

Trade A.) Rivers for Henry/Graham (Not sure who he would part with)

B.) Rivers for Ertz

C.) Rivers and Duke Johnson for Rothlisberger (I get an upgrade at QB as my other QB is Stafford)

I have Jordan Reed and him only, unfortunately there isn't anything out there for replacements, I'm going to have to get Davis for this week when Reed is out and who knows if he will come back.

In comment 13172840 beatrixkiddo said:

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some teams are either in need of a QB or a RB so I can propose the following, not sure how anyone would rank them. It's 14 team full PPR. Trade A.) Rivers for Henry/Graham (Not sure who he would part with) B.) Rivers for Ertz C.) Rivers and Duke Johnson for Rothlisberger (I get an upgrade at QB as my other QB is Stafford) I have Jordan Reed and him only, unfortunately there isn't anything out there for replacements, I'm going to have to get Davis for this week when Reed is out and who knows if he will come back.

Who would your QB be without rivers? I'd trade for one of graham/Henry if you are set at QB

I think you could roll with stafford, especially in a 14 team.

Marshall I think is must start.

Do I go:
Edelman vs Cincy
Crabtree vs KC
Coates vs Miami
Dez vs GB
Riddick vs LA

Pick 2

would be enough of an upgrade to offset my losses at TE though. May be a better net benefit than straight up for Henry. Then I could always shop Stafford for a TE if need be I guess?

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In comment 13172827 dep026 said:

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you may want to get rid of him.

I did, to pick up Alex Smith. I have been rolling with Jameis at QB, though I streamed Hoyer last week. Still holding Moncrief, though I might end up dumping him too

In comment 13172828 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 13172820 VenteSette said: Quote: Jordan Howard, Ingram, Stewart, Ryan Mathews - Pick 2 Or should I flex one? WR are Hopkins, Kelvin Benjamin and planning to flex Cooks. Keeping Jordan Matthews on the bench. Still nothing at QB, starting Alex Smith, but the rest of the team is stacked even with Decker and Moncrief out. Not sure if joking, but Howard and then Ingram if healthy. I don't trust Stewart yet until I see it, and Matthews is an injury waiting to happen.

No joke. I planned to start Howard and probably Ingram. I really like Stewart's matchup and the fact that they will probably try to pound the ball a bit and avoid Cam running, but it is his first game back.

Complicating things further is that Ingram missed practice sick and Mathews is getting some volume and the Skins kinda suck against the run. Being an injury waiting to happen only matters when he is injured (i.e. next week) I am wondering if I should run 3 backs and bench Cooks who has been fairly cold since week 1.

Damn you Lions!

In comment 13172826 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13172818 dep026 said: Quote: so last night's game was good for me cause I bet the chargers. I really need a huge game from Miller and Beckham this week. Heres the matchup. My team is with Brees Brees vs brady Howard vs. mccoy Miller vs. ingram OBJ vs. Brown Landry vs. Pryor Gronk vs. edelman J. Matthews vs. Meredith Bailey vs. santos Bills vs. Seattle Both of our teams are projected to be the 2 highest totals of the week. That looks like it should be a close matchup - just based on projections. on paper my matchup should be a blowout (if the Giants show up), but I'll likely lose: Eli vs. Stafford Beckham vs. Jamison Crowder Landry vs. Dez Bryant Gurley vs D. Murray J. Howard vs. Hyde S. Shepard vs. Ertz Kelce vs Miller Sturgis vs Tucker Buffalo D vs Pittsburgh

How (why?) do you have so many Giants on your roster? It's not smart to play multiple people from the same good offenses, let alone how the Giants are playing....

from the field, but not in season long.

In comment 13172914 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:

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Damn you Lions!

What do you mean, he's averaging 5 receptions a game, has 4 TDs in 5 games and averages around 10 carries a game.

That is on par for his skill set and projections. If you were expecting him to be an every down RB after Abdullah got injured, then that's your fault. He's not built to run between the tackles and be an every down RB.

In comment 13172918 Jonald said:

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from the field, but not in season long.

I didn't start out this way. We drafted before pre-season game 3 due to schedules and I drafted Tony Romo to be my QB. I decided to wait on QB and I figured Romo was primed for a good year, so post-draft my team was:

QB: Romo/Prescott (I drafted Prescott mr irrelevant)
RB: Gurley, Abdullah, Langford, Starks, and more...
WR: Beckham, Watkins, Cooper, Landry, Marvin Jones, M. Thomas

So it was a WR heavy team. I can start 4 WR's since we have two flexes and no TE.

I lost Watkins and Abdullah obviously and Romo.

I traded Marvin Jones for Philip Rivers before the season.

then a couple weeks ago I traded Rivers and Cooper (plus some scrap) for Eli, Shepard, Kelce and Ryan Mathews.

It's a keeper league and my plan was to trade Beckham since he's likely a non-keeper b/c he'll cost a 1st round pick, but I haven't gotten the right deal worked out yet.

If the Giants offense plays the way they should it wouldn't be a problem.

In comment 13172929 NYG27 said:

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In comment 13172914 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said: Quote: Damn you Lions! What do you mean, he's averaging 5 receptions a game, has 4 TDs in 5 games and averages around 10 carries a game. That is on par for his skill set and projections. If you were expecting him to be an every down RB after Abdullah got injured, then that's your fault. He's not built to run between the tackles and be an every down RB.

I could be mistaken but I think he's referring to the injuries.

which sucks. I begrudgingly picked up Forsett, so i guess I'd use him if Riddick can't go.

As for Ryan Mathews, I don't agree on the outlook tha tyou should only worry about it if/when he's injured. He has a pitiful YPC, the worst on the team by almost a full YPC and sooner or later they are going to give carries to Smallwood who's more explosive and will cut down on the injury risk to Mathews.

In comment 13172956 UConn4523 said:

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which sucks. I begrudgingly picked up Forsett, so i guess I'd use him if Riddick can't go. As for Ryan Mathews, I don't agree on the outlook tha tyou should only worry about it if/when he's injured. He has a pitiful YPC, the worst on the team by almost a full YPC and sooner or later they are going to give carries to Smallwood who's more explosive and will cut down on the injury risk to Mathews.

Agree with this. Someone in my league traded Alshon for Kerley and Mathews. Ultimate selling low move but he didn't even ask for Smallwood to be included in the deal, which the mathews/kerley owner has as well.

In comment 13172959 giantsfan44ab said:

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In comment 13172956 UConn4523 said: Quote: which sucks. I begrudgingly picked up Forsett, so i guess I'd use him if Riddick can't go. As for Ryan Mathews, I don't agree on the outlook tha tyou should only worry about it if/when he's injured. He has a pitiful YPC, the worst on the team by almost a full YPC and sooner or later they are going to give carries to Smallwood who's more explosive and will cut down on the injury risk to Mathews. Agree with this. Someone in my league traded Alshon for Kerley and Mathews. Ultimate selling low move but he didn't even ask for Smallwood to be included in the deal, which the mathews/kerley owner has as well.

That's an awful return for Alshon, even at his depressed status.

Already had Emmanuel Sanders throw up a dud with 6 points

.5 PPR

Bernard @ NE
Austin @ DET
Beasley @ GB
Kerley @ BUF

I currently have Bernard in because I see CIN playing from behind and he will get some throws his way...but DET defense has been awful and with Dez likely out again, Beasley should continue to see a good amount of targets...

Any advice appreciated

is out so I don't think Bernard is a bad play in PPR, Beasley wouldn't be bad either even better if Dez is out.

I wouldn't trust Austin and Kerley I'd want to see with Kaepernick. He was building a solid rapport with Gabbert (though he was the only one who was)

so I'd play him. Beasley may draw the #1 CB so i'm not sure how high his upside will be. The other are boom or bust.

when Dez is starting. Cowboys have no real deep threat sans Dez which means much more attention and much less space for Beasley to operate in.

Williams and Butler outside. Beasley will be generally unaffected by Dez.

WR J.Crowder vs Eagles or C Merideth vs J-ville
I know, it's pretty bleak. I had ok WR but diggs is on bye and decker is done.

Merideth is the chicago WR. He got a ton of targets last week. I was watching the game, and was kind of impressed. Hoyer seemed to look his way often. He plays the position white did. I noticed in an earlier game that hoyer threw to white in big spots. not sure if he doesn't like Alshon, or prefers that read in that offense.

Other choice is at TE

Fleener vs Carolina or Clay (Buff) vs. San Fran

Clay has been getting more targets since they changed OC. has a higher floor. Fleener is maddening but could always have a big day. I scapped up hunter henry earlier this week (but didn't start him - of course)

White is out and Jeffery is limited as usual.

I know Yahoo projections are off and I do not take them as gospel by any stretch I do look at them though, so anything you'd change?

Eli vs BAL 18 projected points
or
Wentz @WAS 22 projected points


Shepard vs BAL 10 projected points
or
M. Thomas vs CAR 13 projected points
or
Ryan Mathews vs WAS 11 projected points
or
Dennis Pitta @NYG 11 projected point
or
TJ Yeldon @CHI 10 projected points

so basically Shepard or any of the other 3 options for flex2

that game could be a shootout and its at home.

In comment 13173186 pjcas18 said:

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I know Yahoo projections are off and I do not take them as gospel by any stretch I do look at them though, so anything you'd change? Eli vs BAL 18 projected points or Wentz @WAS 22 projected points Shepard vs BAL 10 projected points or M. Thomas vs CAR 13 projected points or Ryan Mathews vs WAS 11 projected points or Dennis Pitta @NYG 11 projected point or TJ Yeldon @CHI 10 projected points so basically Shepard or any of the other 3 options for flex2

Yeldon's your safest play. Thomas gives you the most risk/reward.

I hate having mediocre options like this. Could be worse I guess.

In comment 13173199 pjcas18 said:

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I hate having mediocre options like this. Could be worse I guess.

If its a 12 team league they are great options, IMO. I'm looking at my roster this week and between byes and injuries I still think I have a strong lineup. I look at the other rosters and some are just putrid. I do like Yeldon as well, but he's been pretty bad and is on the road. Have to figure he busts out sooner or later. He had a good game against Indy (awful defense) but has a good match up, albeit on the road.

but week 8 I lose Eli, Beckham, Gurley, Landry, Shepard, Pitta, plus I have Dixon stashed.

I always say I don't draft or build a team for bye weeks, but that's crazy.

I can plug in Wentz, M. Thomas, Mathews, and Yeldon, but I'll take a big hit that week unless I trade Beckham as I've been attempting to do.

i'm the opposite, I don't like stacking BYE's. With injuries and bye's for an opponent, you are almost giving up on an entire week. I get being stronger ever other week, but when you have so many BYE's stacked together, along with injured players, you may have to drop someone of value just to roster a full team. We only do 5 bench spots so I like to spread it out.

In comment 13173255 UConn4523 said:

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i'm the opposite, I don't like stacking BYE's. With injuries and bye's for an opponent, you are almost giving up on an entire week. I get being stronger ever other week, but when you have so many BYE's stacked together, along with injured players, you may have to drop someone of value just to roster a full team. We only do 5 bench spots so I like to spread it out.

In smaller leagues I'd pay more attention, but this league we have 8 bench spots. I have Paul Perkins, Sammy Watkins and Tony Romo on my bench still. Downside is not much on waivers, but I won't have to stress too much about week 8.

If Dwayne Washington is available on your wire, he gets first shot.