Granted it's early but this team has already been through some ups and downs. I'm curious what most people think about McAdoo as a head coach and what your thought on him are both long and short term. Do you think he will be the HC of this team for the foreseeable future or will he be the beginning of another coaching carousel?
Personally, I don't think he's done a great job with this team though I haven't noticed much difference in terms of on-the-field play b/w this team and Coughlin's teams of the past few seasons. We played clean football the first couple of weeks (even if our offense wasn't great) which left me encouraged...especially after the last few years of really sloppy football. But the past 3 weeks, the penalties, bonehaded plays and turnovers have started creeping back in and have cost us a few precious wins.
Surprisingly, our offense seems to have taken a big step backwards this year and the offensive line has not taken any noticeable steps forward with the new oline coach. Also, while I was a proponent of McAdoo calling the plays before the season, it seems that, as a rookie head coach, it might make more sense for him to focus his attention on the team as a whole during games instead and let Sullivan take over play calling. Some of the game and clock management hasn't been great these first few games and I would have liked to see better control of OBJ during the 2 games where he lost his mind.
Again, I know it's too early to form any opinions of substance at this point but there is at least a sample size to judge from. So what do you think?
Of course, none of us will know before then. But you can still have an opinion based on what you've seen.
Need more time but if this year goes poorly he may be on the hot seat after next season already, where cleaning house is an option in a few years with new GM, HC, QB.
The fact that he kept Spags and brought in Sullivan, whom I'm not sure how much history Mcadoo has with him, smells like the front office making coach decisions for him.
Usually a new coach cleans house
Further, ours is a solid organization, we are the Jets or the Browns.
And yet, we in the basement of the division. Yes, it's too early to say he's a failure. But so far it's not encouraging. He doesn't seem to be an Xs and Os guy and this team didn't need another organization man because we had a world class organization guy in TC. What's this guy good at? He doesn't seem to know how to beat the Tampa 2 or scheme up pressure on the QB.
2. He apparently handled the OBJ thing well enough if you want to measure it by OBJ's behavior last game.
3. He was given this shitty O-line. He did not make those choices. It is on him to figure it out.
4. Thus far, I am not a fan of his play calling.
5. For a guy who was apparently hired so that Eli could be "comfortable"... well Eli looks as fucked up as I have ever seen him. I am talking about mechanics and decision making. Not even talking about the throws/accuracy.
6. I like the fact that he is not afraid to use Perkins.
at a high level/early stage standpoint, I'm concerned that a lot of the same issues we had the last few years are not improving - pass rush, offensive line play, turnovers, boneheaded penalties.
Its like every old wily old bastard is gunning for McAdoo and Sullivan when we play them, trends change constantly, one needs to look at this shiznit critically not just waltz out and walk through your cards as is.
Talent still lacking in key areas like LB, RB. FB, TE, so that doesn't help him.
Very undisciplined thus far. Not a good sign.
I do sense a toughness in him though, which I would like to see more of. Almost like Parcells was too timid in '83, maybe McAdoo needs to realize that he has to do things his way and go down swinging. We'll have to wait and see.
''If Greg Schiano remains the Bucs coach in 2014, offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan might end up taking the fall for this mess.
A year ago, Sullivan directed the ninth-ranked offense in the league, the highest finish in club history. The Bucs set club records for points (389), yards (5,820) and touchdowns (44).
From Weeks 6-9, they had four games with at least 400 yards of offense, including two with more than 500. The 1,907 yards are the most over a four-game span in franchise history.
But now they face their worst offensive ranking in 16 years. Only the Jaguars have produced fewer yards. The last time the Bucs finished next-to-last in the league in offense was 1997. (And the Jaguars trail by only 81 yards.)
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Undisciplined play and mistakes overall, stems from poor head coaching. Lack of creativity on offense to counter the way teams are taking away OBJ equals poor OC.
In his favor, the players seem to like and respect him so far. But let's see how that evolves when he has to start benching seasoned vets to play young guys like Perkins and Adams and Apple more
If you can Reese, would a new, competent GM want to come in with a failed HC whom he didn't choose? And a holdover staff? The whole m.o. the last 5 yrs of year to year with Coughlin, changing Coordinators (except Quinn of course)and position coaches piecemeal, promoting an Off Co with a limited resume' to HC but not cleaning out the failed staff to me just breeds confusion and ineptitude.
They built a nice cushion against the Redskins only to see it fade away and his time management in the final series of that game was suspect when he called a time out allowing the Skins to not be caught out of position possibly.
One thing for sure, the Packers will still owe us one when all is said and done cause this ain't no payback for Vince Lombardi. But all kidding aside, so far I see a very mediocre head coach that should not learn on the fly when he's been their offensive coordinator these past two years. I give him a 3.5 out of ten!
They went as far as they could with TC, though it could be argued that they either should have let him go sooner or should have held on longer.m
My guess is that JR convinced ownership TC had lost his edge and needed to be replaced. He would have argued that injuries hampered the team but it was TC who lost 3 or 4 games with questionable sideline management. Hence, it made sense to keep much of the coaching staff, but get better game management with a guy like McAdoo.
Obviously, this is pure speculation on my part. But, my guess is that if McAdoo is a total failure, say we finish 4-12, then JR will be canned and a whole new regime will begin from GM down. More likely, we finish 6-10 and the whole crew gets one more season to turn it around.
It's a shame because Eli is wasting his sunset years. In fact, it may already be too late. Hate to say it, hope I'm wrong and BM is a huge success. Doubt it though.
I think you have to wait and see but right now he looks like he is in over his head. The organization also did not do him any favors with the coordinators they chose
Then a few injuries set in, they ran into Washington facing a deep hole, and tough to beat Minny and GB on their home turf, the last having had an extra week to prepare with us on a short week. That's a tall assignment for any team.
But the last 3 games, the lack of discipline is alarming. The tackling looked much better in the first two games. The number of turnovers is problematic. The inability to get home with the pass rush, given what we spent to bolster it, is disconcerting. It's a roller coaster thus far, but we're currently on a downswing that has to correct itself if we're going to do anything this season.
What a surprise the record is 2-3
What a surprise the record is 2-3
Wow I swore that the last couple of years Coughlin was the coach?
Mac is 2-3
2. They also underestimated the time for on-the-job training a brand-spanking new head coach would need;
3. They seriously underestimated the other teams in the division;
4. The team needs more speed on the roster;
5. Spags still sucks. He may be able to produce much with much but so can just about anyone else;
6. There is still time to make the playoffs. No panic yet.
The only team that has beaten us is the Vikes, we beat ourselves against the Packers, and the Skins game was a combo of coaching decisions and undisciplined players that caused that one
In fairness, it is early as many on here have said. I just expected more focus, intensity and tenacity and I see none of that to date.
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No OL upgrades, no running game, no TE, no significant upgrade at LB
What a surprise the record is 2-3
Wow I swore that the last couple of years Coughlin was the coach?
Mac is 2-3
and they weren't any better disciplined under Coughlin. So much for the draft strategy of focussing on college captains.
Spags doesn't inspire me either.
Parcells went 3-12-1 in his rookie year. You would likely have blasted him him too. Belicheck, no doubt you would post this cerebral theory during his early HC years too.
They have wasted Eli's prime with all this BS.
I wanted to keep Coughlin so I am not an unbiased observer. I think if the team loses Sunday he may face his first real test of his leadership. Let's hope he can turn this thing around.
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I was never all that impressed with the offense. Yes it racked up huge numbers but it was terribly inconsistent and would disappear at times.
I wanted to keep Coughlin so I am not an unbiased observer. I think if the team loses Sunday he may face his first real test of his leadership. Let's hope he can turn this thing around.
Reece is the reason that we had to rebuild the Defense .
Its poor drafting .
I'm in the minority about the offensive numbers and the
6th rated offense . Its the same old thing we can't run
the ball . Nor do they create a decent pocket .
Zero Impact players at too many positions .
The best move we made was not signing JPP long term and
no knock on him the injury is going to limit him .
Ben has to play the cards he was dealt but I expected
a hell of a lot more offensively . I hope he can right
the ship and it has to start with two wins before the
bye ...
Even if it was brief, he gained experience in how to run things.
That was my one big reservation with BM.
He needs to delegate
And, most importantly, his baby, the offense, is sputtering in its tracks.