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NFT: NY Rangers @ St. Louis Blues. 8:00 PM on MSG

Anakim : 10/15/2016 1:38 pm
Same lines; same pairings. Kevin Klein is still out with a bad back.


Lundqvist vs. Hutton

Go Rangers!



P.S. The Rangers/Wolf Pack have signed former Wild RW Justin Fontaine to a two-way deal. More depth for Hartford.
let's win this one for arc!  
redbeard : 10/15/2016 2:06 pm : link
Happy birthday you old broken down Nancyboy
Not getting the participation  
Carl in CT : 10/15/2016 4:05 pm : link
On Ranger threads as in years past. Maybe some feel we will be doormats in the East. I'm not one of those. Frankly the influx of youth has got me more excited this year. I think the road game tonight will be a big test.
Doormats?  
Deej : 10/15/2016 4:43 pm : link
I think we're still outside contenders. We have a goalie and forward depth. Still enough assets to upgrade the blue line. The early exit from the playoffs may leave our guys more rested for this year.
I don't think the Rangers  
pjcas18 : 10/15/2016 4:46 pm : link
are a favorite in the East like the past couple seasons, but still consider them playoff contenders, and then as we have all seen once you get in the playoffs seeding means little.

and if Hank is on his game the Rangers have a goalie who is capable of winning a cup.

I don't think there's less posting on threads because people are down on the team, it's just October and a Saturday.

just my opinion.
Myself  
Jay in Toronto : 10/15/2016 4:50 pm : link
I feel like the Rangers management on the D is like the Giants management on the OL.

What are they seeing that I'm not????
RE: Myself  
Giants2012 : 10/15/2016 4:52 pm : link
In comment 13173663 Jay in Toronto said:
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I feel like the Rangers management on the D is like the Giants management on the OL.

What are they seeing that I'm not????


John Jerry, I mean Mark Staal, is the best.

RE: RE: Myself  
Jay in Toronto : 10/15/2016 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13173664 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 13173663 Jay in Toronto said:


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I feel like the Rangers management on the D is like the Giants management on the OL.

What are they seeing that I'm not????



John Jerry, I mean Mark Staal, is the best.


Well it sounds like you agree -- though I think it's Newhouse and Girardi, LOL
It's the coach  
Deej : 10/15/2016 5:56 pm : link
he refuses to hold Girardi accountable.
Looking forward to this one  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 6:30 pm : link
My wife was wrapped up in a nursery school fundraiser all day, so I was flying solo with the kids. Had a blast with them, but long day! My 2 year old son just put a nice exclamation point on it by taking a shit in the bathtub. So I got to re-bathe him in my shower, and now bleaching the tub and toys in his bathroom.

Vodka. Rocks. Hockey. It is known.

90 more minutes to straighten this joint out and then I'm getting stuck on the sectional.

RE: RE: RE: Myself  
Giants2012 : 10/15/2016 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13173668 Jay in Toronto said:
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In comment 13173664 Giants2012 said:


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In comment 13173663 Jay in Toronto said:


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I feel like the Rangers management on the D is like the Giants management on the OL.

What are they seeing that I'm not????



John Jerry, I mean Mark Staal, is the best.




Well it sounds like you agree -- though I think it's Newhouse and Girardi, LOL


I would really try for Jacob Trouba and wait for Shattenkirk next offseason. Somehow they have to drop Nash and/or, by some miracle, move Staal or Girardi. It was so dumb to resign Staal long term.
RE: Looking forward to this one  
djm : 10/15/2016 7:51 pm : link
In comment 13173697 bigbluehoya said:
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My wife was wrapped up in a nursery school fundraiser all day, so I was flying solo with the kids. Had a blast with them, but long day! My 2 year old son just put a nice exclamation point on it by taking a shit in the bathtub. So I got to re-bathe him in my shower, and now bleaching the tub and toys in his bathroom.

Vodka. Rocks. Hockey. It is known.

90 more minutes to straighten this joint out and then I'm getting stuck on the sectional.


Sorry but I had to lol nothing worse than the dreaded floater. Kick back and enjoy the game you earned it. I have only one, nearly 3 year old daughter but she's got energy to burn and then some. Was out all day with her -- awesome but exhausting.
Nothing to be sorry for.  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 7:59 pm : link
I had to laugh out loud myself. We'll go crazy fast if we dont.

I mumbled a few four letter words when it happened, but I'm blessed to have that little bath-shitter to clean up after.

But yeah, #thatvodkatho
yup  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 8:13 pm : link
Warrior'd
Great start  
Deej : 10/15/2016 8:15 pm : link
is that 3 or 4 goals on the rush we've let up so far?
Puck is bouncing  
Phil in LA : 10/15/2016 8:16 pm : link
a lot so far.
Buchnevich looks stronger along the boards than I expected.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/15/2016 8:16 pm : link
Apparently has really thick legs.
Almost hard to even judge that one as a rush  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 8:18 pm : link
It's just a blatant duff at the blue line directly handing him a breakaway
Kreidah  
Deej : 10/15/2016 8:19 pm : link
with a pot of beans!
KZB!!!!  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 8:19 pm : link
This line just consumes the puck. Magnetic.
Kreider  
Phil in LA : 10/15/2016 8:19 pm : link
...
RE: Almost hard to even judge that one as a rush  
SethFromAstoria : 10/15/2016 8:21 pm : link
In comment 13173752 bigbluehoya said:
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It's just a blatant duff at the blue line directly handing him a breakaway


this is the goal you're referencing?
RE: Buchnevich looks stronger along the boards than I expected.  
Deej : 10/15/2016 8:21 pm : link
In comment 13173750 BrettNYG10 said:
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Apparently has really thick legs.


May be a Russian training preference. I recall there was a shirtless pic of Ovie a few years ago and his upper body was completely undeveloped.
Ha. I'm deliberately trying  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 8:22 pm : link
To take a positive slant, but....fuck.
RE: RE: Buchnevich looks stronger along the boards than I expected.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/15/2016 8:22 pm : link
In comment 13173758 Deej said:
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In comment 13173750 BrettNYG10 said:


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Apparently has really thick legs.



May be a Russian training preference. I recall there was a shirtless pic of Ovie a few years ago and his upper body was completely undeveloped.


I remember the same thing with Malkin.

Ovechkin kind of looks chubby now. Not quite Phil Kessel, obviously.
RE: RE: Almost hard to even judge that one as a rush  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 8:23 pm : link
In comment 13173757 SethFromAstoria said:
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In comment 13173752 bigbluehoya said:


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It's just a blatant duff at the blue line directly handing him a breakaway



this is the goal you're referencing?


What else would I be referencing, Seth?
RE: Ha. I'm deliberately trying  
BrettNYG10 : 10/15/2016 8:23 pm : link
In comment 13173759 bigbluehoya said:
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To take a positive slant, but....fuck.


I thought it was a weakish call.
we may be outplaying them  
Deej : 10/15/2016 8:33 pm : link
but Hank is keeping us in the game
Play your man Holden  
redbeard : 10/15/2016 8:42 pm : link
Jesus
McIrath sitting again for Holden  
Deej : 10/15/2016 8:43 pm : link
because?
Not a good period for  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 8:51 pm : link
The Miller/Hayes/Nash line
God damnit  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 9:08 pm : link
.
For fucks sake  
redbeard : 10/15/2016 9:09 pm : link
Wake the hell up
Mika!  
Deej : 10/15/2016 9:10 pm : link
Best part of Morning Joe!
That was pretty sick.  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 9:10 pm : link
Big goal.
Huge goal  
Phil in LA : 10/15/2016 9:12 pm : link
By Mika. What a line! It was also the first time they move their feet in about 10 miniutes.
Looks like we've switched  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 9:15 pm : link
To

McD-Clendo
Staal-G
Skjei-Holden

?
Zibanejad!  
Davisian : 10/15/2016 9:16 pm : link
Iron Swede!


No?
Maybe not  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 9:17 pm : link
Just saw McD-Staal which I believe was off a faceoff.

Definitely mixing it up though.

Whatever it is, more Clendenning please
Really dumb, Fast  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 9:21 pm : link
.
Michiletti just said  
Drewcon40 : 10/15/2016 9:26 pm : link
Girardi not on the bench for Rangers
That's a pretty nice kill  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 9:34 pm : link
With no McDonagh or Zibby
Toe Blake coached the Canadiens from 1955 to 1968...  
baadbill : 10/15/2016 9:39 pm : link
during those 11 seasons the Canadiens won 8 Stanley Cups.

Holy shit.
Holden looks a lot better  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 9:42 pm : link
Than he did the other night.
Alright!  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 9:44 pm : link
On the road, early in the season, against a very good team, down 1 going into the third.

I'll take it. Let's roll the dice.

Wow.  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 10:09 pm : link
You could make that call 30 times per game, no exaggeration.
nice call  
Deej : 10/15/2016 10:09 pm : link
the system is rigged.
I thought the first four minutes of this period a real positive  
Essex : 10/15/2016 10:10 pm : link
sign of things to come this season, even without scoring you can just see the speed is back
Does Staal ever hit the net?  
BrettNYG10 : 10/15/2016 10:13 pm : link
His accuracy is so bad.
RE: Does Staal ever hit the net?  
Giants2012 : 10/15/2016 10:14 pm : link
In comment 13173837 BrettNYG10 said:
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His accuracy is so bad.


lol - please don't ask such silly questions

Staal sucks
They should swap  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 10:18 pm : link
Clendo ans McD on the PP units.

The 2nd unit is the guy McD is used to playing PP with, and Clendo moves the puck chop-quick.
Fuck  
Deej : 10/15/2016 10:33 pm : link
cant recall ever seeing a team not get a shot in a whole period+.

Also even with the extra man it looked like even skating. What shitty possession once they pulled Hank.
Hutton stole that game for the Blues  
redbeard : 10/15/2016 10:34 pm : link
Overall I'm encouraged...the speed and transition game is back
A lot of positive in this game  
Deej : 10/15/2016 10:34 pm : link
Another 7 shots for CK.
That's a loss I can live with  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 10:34 pm : link
Love to have one or two of the very few blatant errors back. To the Blues credit, they capitalized like hell.

Vesey-step-Zucc deserves some pay dirt soon.
About as frustrating a game  
Stufftherun : 10/15/2016 10:36 pm : link
as you'll see. Should have come out of there with at least a point.
Not often do I go to sleep after a loss with  
Essex : 10/15/2016 10:37 pm : link
A smile, but I am smiling. This team looks promising, much more than I thought before the season started. Still very early though, plenty of time for them to disappoint me
Doubled their shots  
MetsAreBack : 10/15/2016 10:45 pm : link
Didn't see the game but through two games at least we seem to be controlling play unlike last year.

Would like to see Hank start to shut down teams though. Obviously really early but it's been a year now since he got on one of those rolls.
The only forward who  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 10:52 pm : link
Really has shown nothing is Fast. If Jooris can be equally pedestrian on the PK and play center I think he deserves a look.

I'm not one to constantly be trading in my fan-brain, but with Lindberg coming back soon, they need to think about upgrading the top 4 defensemen.

We have 1 top-pairing guy and like 7 guys who are perfectly acceptable to be 3rd-6th best defensemen in a good team.
RE: Doubled their shots  
bigbluehoya : 10/15/2016 10:55 pm : link
In comment 13173860 MetsAreBack said:
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Didn't see the game but through two games at least we seem to be controlling play unlike last year.

Would like to see Hank start to shut down teams though. Obviously really early but it's been a year now since he got on one of those rolls.


He's got another gear or two in the arsenal from what we've seen, but he's been completely hung out to dry on a number of these goals. He didn't stand on his head tonight, but there's not much of a gripe to be had.
Tough to be encouraged by a  
Phil in LA : 10/15/2016 10:59 pm : link
Loss, but they sure had their chances and if the can avoid shutting it down for half a period at a time, they'll be tough to handle.
What a frustrating loss  
ShockNRoll : 10/16/2016 12:15 am : link
That is one of the best games I have seen the Rangers play in 2 years. This team appears to be the polar opposite of last year's team, and seems to be well-balanced. They have tons of skill, good size, youth, speed, improved special teams, strong puck possession, and of course great goaltending. Too bad they couldn't have come away with a win tonight, but this is a fun team to watch. Having 4 really strong lines all with scoring touch is excellent. Mika Zibanejad has instantly become my favorite player on the team, he does it all. Vesey and Buchnevich are both making a big impact (though Buchnevich has been prone to some bad turnovers the first few games).

That all said, they lost. Schedule is really tough coming up with San Jose and Detroit coming to MSG, then going to DC next Saturday. Can we get McIlrath in there for Holden? I feel like Holden has been a turnover machine so far, and made a really poor play on the second Blues goal.
I forgot to mention Kreider  
ShockNRoll : 10/16/2016 12:17 am : link
Is this the year he finally takes it to the next level? Sure looks like it, but we have seen this from him before, only to see him disappear for a couple weeks at a time.
RE: Doubled their shots  
Vanzetti : 10/16/2016 1:00 am : link
In comment 13173860 MetsAreBack said:
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Didn't see the game but through two games at least we seem to be controlling play unlike last year.

Would like to see Hank start to shut down teams though. Obviously really early but it's been a year now since he got on one of those rolls.


Lundquist usually starts slow. None of the goals looked "bad" to me. But, yeah, you would like him to stop either Tarashenko or the power play goal. But those were also two good shots. Hank did not move on the power play goal. I think he was expecting him to go high over the shoulder--to his weak spot. Got outguessed
Shit  
blueblood'11 : 10/16/2016 9:41 am : link
Hutton didn't steal anything. The fucking post did. Yeah he made a lot of nice saves but include the two wide open nets Vesey missed and the four or five clanks off the post this could have been a blowout. Take into account they had 15 shots on goal to the Blues 0 in the third including two of those posts and this was one of those games that defies logic. No puck luck.

I had to watch the Blues feed and Darren Pang was very effusive in his praise of how well the Rangers played and thinks they are going to be a very entertaining team to watch this year. He likes their size and speed and basically called it like he saw it. He felt the Blues were very fortunate to win. Just one of those games. That's hockey.
Rangers play like this all year...  
M.S. : 10/16/2016 11:30 am : link

...gonna be a lotta wins!
.  
Anakim : 10/16/2016 8:28 pm : link
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#NYR have Chris Drury and Gordie Clark in attendance here tonight. Could be checking out Ducks' D-men.
top secret sources:  
SethFromAstoria : 10/16/2016 9:13 pm : link
"Think something could be up. Those dudes don't usually do that "

DOn't get it though. Put anyone in there and its an upgrade. Just find a guy who can shoot right, play 22 min, block shots and hit everyone its not really something worth fretting over or giving up assets.
RE: .  
BrettNYG10 : 10/16/2016 9:31 pm : link
In comment 13176913 Anakim said:
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#NYR have Chris Drury and Gordie Clark in attendance here tonight. Could be checking out Ducks' D-men.


I hope they aren't after Fowler.

I don't get AV's treatment of McIlrath. I think he showed he's an NHL defenseman last year - just not sure if that's top four or just a third pair guy.

I like Clendening so far. I think he looks really good - don't know his back story and why he hasn't stuck anywhere.
RE: RE: .  
SethFromAstoria : 10/16/2016 9:54 pm : link
In comment 13177068 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 13176913 Anakim said:


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Arthur StapleVerified account
‏@StapeNewsday
#NYR have Chris Drury and Gordie Clark in attendance here tonight. Could be checking out Ducks' D-men.



I hope they aren't after Fowler.

I don't get AV's treatment of McIlrath. I think he showed he's an NHL defenseman last year - just not sure if that's top four or just a third pair guy.

I like Clendening so far. I think he looks really good - don't know his back story and why he hasn't stuck anywhere.


literally thiunk it's just space and our staff being heads up.
RE: top secret sources:  
Anakim : 10/16/2016 10:04 pm : link
In comment 13177032 SethFromAstoria said:
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"Think something could be up. Those dudes don't usually do that "

DOn't get it though. Put anyone in there and its an upgrade. Just find a guy who can shoot right, play 22 min, block shots and hit everyone its not really something worth fretting over or giving up assets.


Sami Vatanen!
RE: RE: .  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 8:49 am : link
In comment 13177068 BrettNYG10 said:
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I don't get AV's treatment of McIlrath. I think he showed he's an NHL defenseman last year - just not sure if that's top four or just a third pair guy.
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Saw him in Hartford three times and he is a very, very stay at home defenseman b/c he doesn't skate well. Players will blow right by him if he's caught up ice a bit. No question though, he does seek out others to make contact with. Would like to see him out there yet i can understand why he might not be out there.
well, the Ducks got Rakell's deal done last night  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2016 9:23 am : link
So maybe they can't afford Lindholm now? I can dream.

Of course, the Rangers can't fit him under the cap either.
Yeah I'm confused at  
jv : 10/17/2016 9:31 am : link
how the Rangers, who have some cap room but not a lot, are going to help out a capped team. We can't fit a player like Fowler and they're certainly not looking or able to take back one of our shit contracts.
McIlrath did fine in CT  
Deej : 10/17/2016 9:46 am : link
as their first paid defender, by all reports.

I read something recently suggesting that his problem is short area skating. He can do a fine job getting back from blue line to blue line, but that he's plodding getting from the corner to the crease. I'll have to watch for that.
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