one blatantly horrendous call (DRC) and pretty awful (non call on Lewis Jr in endzone). But the roughing the passer was fully justified. And the Ravens had a ton of flags thrown on them.
15 - 111 Baltimore.
7 - 119 New York.
The DRC flag was the worst call I've seen this season and indefensible. But overall, NY arguably came out on the winning side.
That's not the say the officiating was good, by the way...
I rewatched the Odiziawikaguha late hit a few times
Just don't see how Odi could have pulled up there and it didn't look like he drove Flaco into the ground. Really looked to me like there was DPI on the pass to Shep which got picked. Anyway, the officiating continues to be a pathetic joke. Goodness I hate Dean Blandino. P
what a joy you are. With all due respect, and I do mean that cause at one time you were one of the best posters we had here. But you've just completely jumped the shark here with your narrative and crusade to rip any player with the slightest bit of personality.
I'm not oblivious to the problems Beckham brings to the table, clearly an immature person that is still struggling to walk the line and puts himself above the team at times. But by most measures and accounts is not a bad person. But we also have one of the brightest (maybe the brightest, at least on offense) talents this franchise has ever seen. That just delivered an incredible performance to rescue a win. Is there no fun an excitement to be found in that? Does it always just have to be a race to tell prove you're the smartest person in the room by just being completely miserable and ripping him because he took his helmet off? Come on.
By Tuesday I have no doubts you'll be talking about trading him cause his value is back up. It's tired at this point. If you can't appreciate what this player brings to the table, warts and all, then you're just not going to find much fun in today's league. But maybe that's the point
what a joy you are. With all due respect, and I do mean that cause at one time you were one of the best posters we had here. But you've just completely jumped the shark here with your narrative and crusade to rip any player with the slightest bit of personality.
I'm not oblivious to the problems Beckham brings to the table, clearly an immature person that is still struggling to walk the line and puts himself above the team at times. But by most measures and accounts is not a bad person. But we also have one of the brightest (maybe the brightest, at least on offense) talents this franchise has ever seen. That just delivered an incredible performance to rescue a win. Is there no fun an excitement to be found in that? Does it always just have to be a race to tell prove you're the smartest person in the room by just being completely miserable and ripping him because he took his helmet off? Come on.
By Tuesday I have no doubts you'll be talking about trading him cause his value is back up. It's tired at this point. If you can't appreciate what this player brings to the table, warts and all, then you're just not going to find much fun in today's league. But maybe that's the point
But there are still too many penalties and turnovers. On a side note I am pissed off as hell as to how badly officiating has become in the NFL. This is to the point of shamefulness.
But there are still too many penalties and turnovers. On a side note I am pissed off as hell as to how badly officiating has become in the NFL. This is to the point of shamefulness.
No wonder nfl viewership is dropping. It is shameful
....I'm glad this kid, problems and all is in BLUE. Beckham is electric period, to me he is easily top 3, Mabey 2. I hope they just continue to work with this young kid and force feed him that if he channels the aggression, flamboyancy,talent, and passion into being an even better player & leader, he controls his own destiny. He is no question a rare talent.
Any one play, fucking penalty, sidwards glance, or stiff breeze could have cost us the game. Pointing to any one thing is meaningless. Especially if that one thing is taking your helmet off, off the field of play in a manner which, according to the rule posted here, was not illegal.
He didn't do anything wrong. He was not on the field of play. He was beyond the field of play.
It's a make believe penalty from a group of officials that are spooked into looking for things that aren't there, by a league office that fails at this sort of thing always.
He said let them throw it, because he's living in a comedy of absurdity with officials.
He was out of bounds, yards away from anyone.
RE: RE: RE: I really don't think I say this through Giants colored glasses
The officials very nearly handed the Ravens the game. There were 4 critical calls or no-calls in this game that all negatively impacted the Giants in a HUGE way:
1) No PI on the throw to Lewis in the end zone
2) No PI on the 3rd down throw to Shepard that resulted in an INT
3) PI on Cromartie -
4) Roughing the passer - He didn't take more than 2 steps. It was 2 steps and not a big hit.
Matt,
1) No question a blown no-call
2) Disagree, much closer call and no clear show of hands or upper body to SS's before the legs tangled. I wanted a call, but hard to argue the no-call
3) As many have said, atrocious, indefensible call, and Triplett should have told the BJ to pick up the flag
4) It's an easy call to make, a harder one not to make, and a stupid, unnecessary play by OO, two steps is one too many
I can agree about #2, but #4 is where I really wanted to make sure these weren't Giant colored glasses. 2 steps is not 1 too many. IT is nearly impossible to stop on a dime. More than two steps and I agree 100%. 2 small steps, I'm not so sure.
Agreed. In my view, it was a bad call even in today's NFL. Back in the 80's-90's that wouldn't have been called.
what a joy you are. With all due respect, and I do mean that cause at one time you were one of the best posters we had here. But you've just completely jumped the shark here with your narrative and crusade to rip any player with the slightest bit of personality.
I'm not oblivious to the problems Beckham brings to the table, clearly an immature person that is still struggling to walk the line and puts himself above the team at times. But by most measures and accounts is not a bad person. But we also have one of the brightest (maybe the brightest, at least on offense) talents this franchise has ever seen. That just delivered an incredible performance to rescue a win. Is there no fun an excitement to be found in that? Does it always just have to be a race to tell prove you're the smartest person in the room by just being completely miserable and ripping him because he took his helmet off? Come on.
By Tuesday I have no doubts you'll be talking about trading him cause his value is back up. It's tired at this point. If you can't appreciate what this player brings to the table, warts and all, then you're just not going to find much fun in today's league. But maybe that's the point
Slightest bit of personality...wow...
The fucking penalty could have cost the game!
Fuck some people here are fucking daft.
Yeah and he also won us the fucking game! Then he took off his helmet, get a grip.
for the penalty (7yd penalty btw), and it was a 4pt lead not a 3pt lead which is a massive difference.
But the amount of talk on the penalty rather than his HISTORIC 2nd half performance is a bit of a joke.
How are there more people saying "he could've potentially cost us..." than there are people saying "he put us on his back and carried us"?
Odell just kept the season alive with what was, once again, a HISTORIC Giants and NFL receiving performance. 211 yards in the 2nd half. 2 different go-ahead Touchdowns of 60+ yards in the final 20 minutes of the game.
And yet there's more talk about a fucking celebratory penalty that cost us 7 yards when he had 200 yards in the 2nd half and WON THE GAME for us.
The offensive plan in the 1st half was a joke. Tired of the Giants running for the hell of it despite the fact it's an obvious mismatch in their favor. Tired of watching the bullshit shotgun draw. The 2 minute drill clock management and play calling was atrocious.
The 2nd half was better. I thought Spags coached a hell of a game. Well-times blitzes/pressure from the LBs/secondary.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I really don't think I say this through Giants colored glasses
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Agreed. In my view, it was a bad call even in today's NFL. Back in the 80's-90's that wouldn't have been called.
He doesn't have to stop on a dime, he just needs to adjust his angle a bit so he makes glancing contact and not a full blown tackles seconds after Flacco has released the ball. If OO is not aware of the situation and that the pass has been thrown, he's either poorly coached and/or insufficiently aware of the situation. I don't think it's open and shut, but as I said, it's an easy call to make by the Umpire (is that right, or was it Triplett?) in that situation. OO gave no hint of letting up. Had he done so, I'm *somewhat* confident it's a no-call, but with this crew one doesn't know. ):
We all see the problems and there is absolutely a tightrope to walk here. But if you can't appreciate the things this guy brings to the team and what he can do on the field, then there's not much you're going to like in this sport in this day and age.
And by the way, I wasn't saying Odell only shows the slightest bit of personalty. Pretty clear he shows a whole lot more than that, often too much. But I was referring to your track record terms of turning on a player as soon as he stops simply handing the ball to the ref after TDs, hence showing some personality. But I guess I'm just the daft one.
for the penalty (7yd penalty btw), and it was a 4pt lead not a 3pt lead which is a massive difference.
But the amount of talk on the penalty rather than his HISTORIC 2nd half performance is a bit of a joke.
How are there more people saying "he could've potentially cost us..." than there are people saying "he put us on his back and carried us"?
Odell just kept the season alive with what was, once again, a HISTORIC Giants and NFL receiving performance. 211 yards in the 2nd half. 2 different go-ahead Touchdowns of 60+ yards in the final 20 minutes of the game.
And yet there's more talk about a fucking celebratory penalty that cost us 7 yards when he had 200 yards in the 2nd half and WON THE GAME for us.
So damn happy he's on our team.
He was definitely the man today. Hopefully, Eli and OBJ reconnect on the last two years play (some beatable defenses coming up).
The KO after his penalty was huge. You're right it was only 7 yard penalty (assuming a touchback). Overlook big play of the game.
it could've potentially been more than a 7yd penalty. It was a stupid move by Odell.
But we only got to that point after he took a basic slant 66 yards to a TD by running through 3 Ravens defenders with a bad hip/oblique?
The lead story on ESPN is "OBJ glad late flag didn't spoil win, career day".... the fucking flag is what they were fixated on the CBS post-game show... the flag is the main thing some posters here talk about.
It's just silly. He did make a costly mistake with that penalty, but he also won this game for us (along with Eli).
and eternal pessimists ... All I have to say is .... Go chew on a piece of leather ... and ... then take a break and realize that things are not as BAD as they SEEM !!!! Eli ... is the straw that stirs this drink ... Congrats to ODB Jr. .... but ... Eli ... I am sure keeps that "kid" balanced ... BELIEVE THAT !!!! :)
you see these kinds of comments on a forum for the other team:
"bad call that was not PI"
"I'll take it but that is a pretty terrible call"
"Don't know how that's PI but whatever"
"That was a gift"
"We caught the BIGGEST break we have gotten all year."
"Did we finally pay off some refs lol"
"That was the worst call in NFL history. I feel bad for the Giants."
"Wow, that's a bad call. But I'll take it."
"Thanks ref."
"Wow on the defense??? Giants robbed"
"Lets go offense. Refs want us to win!"
Is that the penalty was a selfish penalty. Sure, it didn't cost them the game, but as part of a team the first thought in your mind should be for the team, not yourself.
I think it was a bs penalty call. But his "passion" can't potentially cost the team. Especially if it's something so easily preventable. If he weren't a Giant, all of BBI would be saying how much of an asshole he is, regardless of the repercussions. Being an elite talent doesn't pardon idiotic behavior that could potentially hurt the team you play for.
Is that the penalty was a selfish penalty. Sure, it didn't cost them the game, but as part of a team the first thought in your mind should be for the team, not yourself.
I think it was a bs penalty call. But his "passion" can't potentially cost the team. Especially if it's something so easily preventable. If he weren't a Giant, all of BBI would be saying how much of an asshole he is, regardless of the repercussions. Being an elite talent doesn't pardon idiotic behavior that could potentially hurt the team you play for.
That's fine and a fair point.
But when it's the only thing you mention about the guy who carried the team to victory, it's just stupid.
Is that the penalty was a selfish penalty. Sure, it didn't cost them the game, but as part of a team the first thought in your mind should be for the team, not yourself.
I think it was a bs penalty call. But his "passion" can't potentially cost the team. Especially if it's something so easily preventable. If he weren't a Giant, all of BBI would be saying how much of an asshole he is, regardless of the repercussions. Being an elite talent doesn't pardon idiotic behavior that could potentially hurt the team you play for.
That's fine and a fair point.
But when it's the only thing you mention about the guy who carried the team to victory, it's just stupid.
and lets not forget he was playing hurt also, he easily could of sat on the bench and said i am done i am in to much pain
3,336 career receiving yards in 33 games. If you do the math that's over 100 yards per game as an average for his career. I hope he isn't too banged up right now. What a special player Link - ( New Window )
Can the players please not highlight when they're grabbing an opponents jersey by wearing these bright pink gloves?
As bad as that PI call was, the defenders of it will point to the split second he had some jersey in his hand (and that's what the explanation on the field was, right?). Not that it was bad enough to make such a drastic call - AC was essentially the receiver on that play and there's no way a WR gets called for offensive PI there.
Regardless, can we keep the pink down on the legs and feet only in the future?
I'm afraid you've confused me with someone else. I never said anything about ODB. In fact I had to leave for a wedding when the Ravens were ahead 13-10. Didn't find out till 7 pm that the Giants won. Are you sure you didn't confuse me with Kivorkian?
Can the players please not highlight when they're grabbing an opponents jersey by wearing these bright pink gloves?
As bad as that PI call was, the defenders of it will point to the split second he had some jersey in his hand (and that's what the explanation on the field was, right?). Not that it was bad enough to make such a drastic call - AC was essentially the receiver on that play and there's no way a WR gets called for offensive PI there.
Regardless, can we keep the pink down on the legs and feet only in the future?
This is true.
Well, except for the brain fart part where I said AC instead of DRC.
:)
He didn't do anything wrong. He was not on the field of play. He was beyond the field of play.
It's a make believe penalty from a group of officials that are spooked into looking for things that aren't there, by a league office that fails at this sort of thing always.
Indeed. I get Terps' point here, I really do. We've seen a lot of flamboyant receivers throughout NFL history and not many of them have team success to show for it, perhaps at least in part due to the distractions they cause or penalties they commit. It would be nice if Beckham didn't wind up joining their ranks.
But today's shit... well, it sure makes it look like he won't get any benefit of the doubt this year. He'd better dial it back and play choir boy, but even then I'd half expect a flag from an official who thinks Beckham's being sarcastically subdued.
Santaruz, that is a BS narrative about flamboyant WR's and team
success. The 2007 Patriots and 1998 Vikings were the most prolific scoring offenses of all time, with Moss as a common denominator. TO was able to get the Eagles over the NFC Championship game hump, and was directly responsible for McNabb's best season ever.
was literally off the field when he took his helmet off, past the end of the end zone, no spike, no showboat they DO NOT LIKE HIM and Yes his actions make him an easy mark, but this particular crew was horrible, in the old neighborhood the wise guys would have sworn someone had a bet on the game.
The helmet thing was clearly a penalty and it was stupid and selfish
The thing about the helmet and the sideline antics is that they are a distraction to OBJ and the rest of the team. Just stop it OBJ. I love the way this guy dominates the position. He is electric and we'd all tune in and pay money to watch him play the game even if he never did another goofy thing to celebrate or get angry on the sideline. The thing with the net is stupid. Maybe instead of hamming it up on the sidelines, grab some water and check out some video or check in with the position coach or your teammates. Catch your breath and get ready for the next series. It's not all about you.
nice to get a win and live to fight another day, but:
1) ZERO running game. Again
2) the TEs suck
3) great as Beckham's talent is, he an idiot. That 15 almost cost them the game. Thanks God Flacco didn't look right on that last play. The WR was WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE open.
4) I like Collins more each week.
5) refs suck. The DRC penalty was a disgrace.
Glad we won, but the dumb plays and penalties need to stop.
the designated roll-outs by Eli? Those plays were a staple of the new offense.
Maybe they were the Coughlins part of it. Remember although it was a new offense from what they ran in the past Coughlin and McAdoo both said that the offense was a both of theirs together.
And watching this season it certainly looks like the offense has been altered considerably from what we watched the previous two.
are only worrying about him because the NFL and common narrative says you should. Here are the facts with Beckham:
-He's a little crazy. HE plays with a ton of emotion.
-HEs the best WR in football.
-HE never ever ever gets in any trouble off the field.
-He pushes the limits of the celebrating and gets a flag for it every now n then but if you look at all the other things not getting called or getting called around the NFL, he's really no "worse" than anyone else. Why is the Packers leap into the stands not a flag but Beckham taking off his helmet out of bounds is? And why is BEckham demonized on ESPN TEN FUCKING SECONDS AFTER THEY BALL WASHED GRONK FOR TRYING TO FIGHT THE ENTIRE BENGALS TEAM???!!!!!
IF the Giants had a team filled with Beckhams they would never lose and the media would ball wash them all because they win.
It's hypocritical bullshit. IT's all up to the refs discretion and the media's opinion. As they go so goes the narrative.
Best non QB player this franchise has touched in decades and he HATES TO FUCKING LOSE. Wahhh he gets emotional and isn't composed like I want him to be. Am I right?
RE: Glad we won, but the dumb plays and penalties need to stop.
are only worrying about him because the NFL and common narrative says you should. Here are the facts with Beckham:
-He's a little crazy. HE plays with a ton of emotion.
-HEs the best WR in football.
-HE never ever ever gets in any trouble off the field.
-He pushes the limits of the celebrating and gets a flag for it every now n then but if you look at all the other things not getting called or getting called around the NFL, he's really no "worse" than anyone else. Why is the Packers leap into the stands not a flag but Beckham taking off his helmet out of bounds is? And why is BEckham demonized on ESPN TEN FUCKING SECONDS AFTER THEY BALL WASHED GRONK FOR TRYING TO FIGHT THE ENTIRE BENGALS TEAM???!!!!!
IF the Giants had a team filled with Beckhams they would never lose and the media would ball wash them all because they win.
It's hypocritical bullshit. IT's all up to the refs discretion and the media's opinion. As they go so goes the narrative.
Best non QB player this franchise has touched in decades and he HATES TO FUCKING LOSE. Wahhh he gets emotional and isn't composed like I want him to be. Am I right?
Good post.
BTW, the Lambeau Leap was grandfathered I believe (which in itself is simply jaw dropping lol)
Was not that the loudest the Stadium has been this season? I know I was near nirvana on his unearthly jaunt into the end zone. He should have kept his helmet on to protect his ears.... The coaches have to keep on reminding him in a professional manner to handle his celebrations a little better. That is all. No fines or undermining comments are necessary for you playmaker who does no wrong off the field. ODB is being closely watched. He just has to deal with it. Genie is out of the bottle.
are only worrying about him because the NFL and common narrative says you should. Here are the facts with Beckham:
-He's a little crazy. HE plays with a ton of emotion.
-HEs the best WR in football.
-HE never ever ever gets in any trouble off the field.
-He pushes the limits of the celebrating and gets a flag for it every now n then but if you look at all the other things not getting called or getting called around the NFL, he's really no "worse" than anyone else. Why is the Packers leap into the stands not a flag but Beckham taking off his helmet out of bounds is? And why is BEckham demonized on ESPN TEN FUCKING SECONDS AFTER THEY BALL WASHED GRONK FOR TRYING TO FIGHT THE ENTIRE BENGALS TEAM???!!!!!
IF the Giants had a team filled with Beckhams they would never lose and the media would ball wash them all because they win.
It's hypocritical bullshit. IT's all up to the refs discretion and the media's opinion. As they go so goes the narrative.
Best non QB player this franchise has touched in decades and he HATES TO FUCKING LOSE. Wahhh he gets emotional and isn't composed like I want him to be. Am I right?
Antonio Brown also gets flagged for air humping a lot. Some fans in Pittsburgh are getting a little tired of it. But their radio guys say hat Brown at least waits until the game is in hand before making lude gestures. Not sure if the latter part is true. Either way, the media doesn't cover it like they cover Odell. Kid has a target on him. It's bull shit.
Beckham hates to lose? What does that even mean? Does that mean Brad Wing doesn't give a shit because he doesn't act the clown after dropping a punt inside the 10?
I agree that Beckham is the best wide receiver in the sport. I hope that he's the guy to catch Eli's 1,000th touchdown pass in 2040.
He's just got to stop the bullshit. If he's being targeted by the NFL it's because he put the target there himself.
Just stop getting penalties and stop being a distraction. The guy can be the best receiver maybe ever. Just be that.
Beckham hates to lose? What does that even mean? Does that mean Brad Wing doesn't give a shit because he doesn't act the clown after dropping a punt inside the 10?
I agree that Beckham is the best wide receiver in the sport. I hope that he's the guy to catch Eli's 1,000th touchdown pass in 2040.
He's just got to stop the bullshit. If he's being targeted by the NFL it's because he put the target there himself.
Just stop getting penalties and stop being a distraction. The guy can be the best receiver maybe ever. Just be that.
I also don't seem to understand what it's going to take for Beckham to "get it" on the field, like he claims he gets it when off the field.
1. Coaches (and Eli) speak to him.
2. He assures everyone he "gets it."
3. He goes on the field and gets a conduct penalty.
4. Coaches (and Eli) speak to him.
5. He assures everyone he "gets it."
6. He goes on the field and gets a conduct penalty.
15 - 111 Baltimore.
7 - 119 New York.
The DRC flag was the worst call I've seen this season and indefensible. But overall, NY arguably came out on the winning side.
That's not the say the officiating was good, by the way...
I'm not oblivious to the problems Beckham brings to the table, clearly an immature person that is still struggling to walk the line and puts himself above the team at times. But by most measures and accounts is not a bad person. But we also have one of the brightest (maybe the brightest, at least on offense) talents this franchise has ever seen. That just delivered an incredible performance to rescue a win. Is there no fun an excitement to be found in that? Does it always just have to be a race to tell prove you're the smartest person in the room by just being completely miserable and ripping him because he took his helmet off? Come on.
By Tuesday I have no doubts you'll be talking about trading him cause his value is back up. It's tired at this point. If you can't appreciate what this player brings to the table, warts and all, then you're just not going to find much fun in today's league. But maybe that's the point
I'm not oblivious to the problems Beckham brings to the table, clearly an immature person that is still struggling to walk the line and puts himself above the team at times. But by most measures and accounts is not a bad person. But we also have one of the brightest (maybe the brightest, at least on offense) talents this franchise has ever seen. That just delivered an incredible performance to rescue a win. Is there no fun an excitement to be found in that? Does it always just have to be a race to tell prove you're the smartest person in the room by just being completely miserable and ripping him because he took his helmet off? Come on.
By Tuesday I have no doubts you'll be talking about trading him cause his value is back up. It's tired at this point. If you can't appreciate what this player brings to the table, warts and all, then you're just not going to find much fun in today's league. But maybe that's the point
Slightest bit of personality...wow...
The fucking penalty could have cost the game!
Fuck some people here are fucking daft.
No wonder nfl viewership is dropping. It is shameful
He didn't do anything wrong. He was not on the field of play. He was beyond the field of play.
It's a make believe penalty from a group of officials that are spooked into looking for things that aren't there, by a league office that fails at this sort of thing always.
He said let them throw it, because he's living in a comedy of absurdity with officials.
He was out of bounds, yards away from anyone.
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The officials very nearly handed the Ravens the game. There were 4 critical calls or no-calls in this game that all negatively impacted the Giants in a HUGE way:
1) No PI on the throw to Lewis in the end zone
2) No PI on the 3rd down throw to Shepard that resulted in an INT
3) PI on Cromartie -
4) Roughing the passer - He didn't take more than 2 steps. It was 2 steps and not a big hit.
Matt,
1) No question a blown no-call
2) Disagree, much closer call and no clear show of hands or upper body to SS's before the legs tangled. I wanted a call, but hard to argue the no-call
3) As many have said, atrocious, indefensible call, and Triplett should have told the BJ to pick up the flag
4) It's an easy call to make, a harder one not to make, and a stupid, unnecessary play by OO, two steps is one too many
I can agree about #2, but #4 is where I really wanted to make sure these weren't Giant colored glasses. 2 steps is not 1 too many. IT is nearly impossible to stop on a dime. More than two steps and I agree 100%. 2 small steps, I'm not so sure.
Agreed. In my view, it was a bad call even in today's NFL. Back in the 80's-90's that wouldn't have been called.
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what a joy you are. With all due respect, and I do mean that cause at one time you were one of the best posters we had here. But you've just completely jumped the shark here with your narrative and crusade to rip any player with the slightest bit of personality.
I'm not oblivious to the problems Beckham brings to the table, clearly an immature person that is still struggling to walk the line and puts himself above the team at times. But by most measures and accounts is not a bad person. But we also have one of the brightest (maybe the brightest, at least on offense) talents this franchise has ever seen. That just delivered an incredible performance to rescue a win. Is there no fun an excitement to be found in that? Does it always just have to be a race to tell prove you're the smartest person in the room by just being completely miserable and ripping him because he took his helmet off? Come on.
By Tuesday I have no doubts you'll be talking about trading him cause his value is back up. It's tired at this point. If you can't appreciate what this player brings to the table, warts and all, then you're just not going to find much fun in today's league. But maybe that's the point
Slightest bit of personality...wow...
The fucking penalty could have cost the game!
Fuck some people here are fucking daft.
Yeah and he also won us the fucking game! Then he took off his helmet, get a grip.
But the amount of talk on the penalty rather than his HISTORIC 2nd half performance is a bit of a joke.
How are there more people saying "he could've potentially cost us..." than there are people saying "he put us on his back and carried us"?
Odell just kept the season alive with what was, once again, a HISTORIC Giants and NFL receiving performance. 211 yards in the 2nd half. 2 different go-ahead Touchdowns of 60+ yards in the final 20 minutes of the game.
And yet there's more talk about a fucking celebratory penalty that cost us 7 yards when he had 200 yards in the 2nd half and WON THE GAME for us.
So damn happy he's on our team.
The offensive plan in the 1st half was a joke. Tired of the Giants running for the hell of it despite the fact it's an obvious mismatch in their favor. Tired of watching the bullshit shotgun draw. The 2 minute drill clock management and play calling was atrocious.
The 2nd half was better. I thought Spags coached a hell of a game. Well-times blitzes/pressure from the LBs/secondary.
Agreed. In my view, it was a bad call even in today's NFL. Back in the 80's-90's that wouldn't have been called.
And by the way, I wasn't saying Odell only shows the slightest bit of personalty. Pretty clear he shows a whole lot more than that, often too much. But I was referring to your track record terms of turning on a player as soon as he stops simply handing the ball to the ref after TDs, hence showing some personality. But I guess I'm just the daft one.
But the amount of talk on the penalty rather than his HISTORIC 2nd half performance is a bit of a joke.
How are there more people saying "he could've potentially cost us..." than there are people saying "he put us on his back and carried us"?
Odell just kept the season alive with what was, once again, a HISTORIC Giants and NFL receiving performance. 211 yards in the 2nd half. 2 different go-ahead Touchdowns of 60+ yards in the final 20 minutes of the game.
And yet there's more talk about a fucking celebratory penalty that cost us 7 yards when he had 200 yards in the 2nd half and WON THE GAME for us.
So damn happy he's on our team.
He was definitely the man today. Hopefully, Eli and OBJ reconnect on the last two years play (some beatable defenses coming up).
The KO after his penalty was huge. You're right it was only 7 yard penalty (assuming a touchback). Overlook big play of the game.
But we only got to that point after he took a basic slant 66 yards to a TD by running through 3 Ravens defenders with a bad hip/oblique?
The lead story on ESPN is "OBJ glad late flag didn't spoil win, career day".... the fucking flag is what they were fixated on the CBS post-game show... the flag is the main thing some posters here talk about.
It's just silly. He did make a costly mistake with that penalty, but he also won this game for us (along with Eli).
"bad call that was not PI"
"I'll take it but that is a pretty terrible call"
"Don't know how that's PI but whatever"
"That was a gift"
"We caught the BIGGEST break we have gotten all year."
"Did we finally pay off some refs lol"
"That was the worst call in NFL history. I feel bad for the Giants."
"Wow, that's a bad call. But I'll take it."
"Thanks ref."
"Wow on the defense??? Giants robbed"
"Lets go offense. Refs want us to win!"
I think it was a bs penalty call. But his "passion" can't potentially cost the team. Especially if it's something so easily preventable. If he weren't a Giant, all of BBI would be saying how much of an asshole he is, regardless of the repercussions. Being an elite talent doesn't pardon idiotic behavior that could potentially hurt the team you play for.
I think it was a bs penalty call. But his "passion" can't potentially cost the team. Especially if it's something so easily preventable. If he weren't a Giant, all of BBI would be saying how much of an asshole he is, regardless of the repercussions. Being an elite talent doesn't pardon idiotic behavior that could potentially hurt the team you play for.
That's fine and a fair point.
But when it's the only thing you mention about the guy who carried the team to victory, it's just stupid.
Gotta take the good with the bad. He's not changing.
The same way they embarrassed the Giants.
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Is that the penalty was a selfish penalty. Sure, it didn't cost them the game, but as part of a team the first thought in your mind should be for the team, not yourself.
I think it was a bs penalty call. But his "passion" can't potentially cost the team. Especially if it's something so easily preventable. If he weren't a Giant, all of BBI would be saying how much of an asshole he is, regardless of the repercussions. Being an elite talent doesn't pardon idiotic behavior that could potentially hurt the team you play for.
That's fine and a fair point.
But when it's the only thing you mention about the guy who carried the team to victory, it's just stupid.
and lets not forget he was playing hurt also, he easily could of sat on the bench and said i am done i am in to much pain
3,336 career receiving yards in 33 games. If you do the math that's over 100 yards per game as an average for his career. I hope he isn't too banged up right now. What a special player
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That's because there's something seriously wrong with you.
As bad as that PI call was, the defenders of it will point to the split second he had some jersey in his hand (and that's what the explanation on the field was, right?). Not that it was bad enough to make such a drastic call - AC was essentially the receiver on that play and there's no way a WR gets called for offensive PI there.
Regardless, can we keep the pink down on the legs and feet only in the future?
This is true.
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Can the players please not highlight when they're grabbing an opponents jersey by wearing these bright pink gloves?
As bad as that PI call was, the defenders of it will point to the split second he had some jersey in his hand (and that's what the explanation on the field was, right?). Not that it was bad enough to make such a drastic call - AC was essentially the receiver on that play and there's no way a WR gets called for offensive PI there.
Regardless, can we keep the pink down on the legs and feet only in the future?
This is true.
Well, except for the brain fart part where I said AC instead of DRC.
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He didn't do anything wrong. He was not on the field of play. He was beyond the field of play.
It's a make believe penalty from a group of officials that are spooked into looking for things that aren't there, by a league office that fails at this sort of thing always.
Indeed. I get Terps' point here, I really do. We've seen a lot of flamboyant receivers throughout NFL history and not many of them have team success to show for it, perhaps at least in part due to the distractions they cause or penalties they commit. It would be nice if Beckham didn't wind up joining their ranks.
But today's shit... well, it sure makes it look like he won't get any benefit of the doubt this year. He'd better dial it back and play choir boy, but even then I'd half expect a flag from an official who thinks Beckham's being sarcastically subdued.
2) the TEs suck
3) great as Beckham's talent is, he an idiot. That 15 almost cost them the game. Thanks God Flacco didn't look right on that last play. The WR was WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE open.
4) I like Collins more each week.
5) refs suck. The DRC penalty was a disgrace.
I would start with Donnell and Herzlich...
Maybe they were the Coughlins part of it. Remember although it was a new offense from what they ran in the past Coughlin and McAdoo both said that the offense was a both of theirs together.
And watching this season it certainly looks like the offense has been altered considerably from what we watched the previous two.
If you're truly a newbie(welcome), the short answer is yes.
-He's a little crazy. HE plays with a ton of emotion.
-HEs the best WR in football.
-HE never ever ever gets in any trouble off the field.
-He pushes the limits of the celebrating and gets a flag for it every now n then but if you look at all the other things not getting called or getting called around the NFL, he's really no "worse" than anyone else. Why is the Packers leap into the stands not a flag but Beckham taking off his helmet out of bounds is? And why is BEckham demonized on ESPN TEN FUCKING SECONDS AFTER THEY BALL WASHED GRONK FOR TRYING TO FIGHT THE ENTIRE BENGALS TEAM???!!!!!
IF the Giants had a team filled with Beckhams they would never lose and the media would ball wash them all because they win.
It's hypocritical bullshit. IT's all up to the refs discretion and the media's opinion. As they go so goes the narrative.
Best non QB player this franchise has touched in decades and he HATES TO FUCKING LOSE. Wahhh he gets emotional and isn't composed like I want him to be. Am I right?
I would start with Donnell and Herzlich...
Herzlich? What did he do? Helped finish Weston on the the goalline 4th and goal....
Donnell - ok...
-He's a little crazy. HE plays with a ton of emotion.
-HEs the best WR in football.
-HE never ever ever gets in any trouble off the field.
-He pushes the limits of the celebrating and gets a flag for it every now n then but if you look at all the other things not getting called or getting called around the NFL, he's really no "worse" than anyone else. Why is the Packers leap into the stands not a flag but Beckham taking off his helmet out of bounds is? And why is BEckham demonized on ESPN TEN FUCKING SECONDS AFTER THEY BALL WASHED GRONK FOR TRYING TO FIGHT THE ENTIRE BENGALS TEAM???!!!!!
IF the Giants had a team filled with Beckhams they would never lose and the media would ball wash them all because they win.
It's hypocritical bullshit. IT's all up to the refs discretion and the media's opinion. As they go so goes the narrative.
Best non QB player this franchise has touched in decades and he HATES TO FUCKING LOSE. Wahhh he gets emotional and isn't composed like I want him to be. Am I right?
Good post.
BTW, the Lambeau Leap was grandfathered I believe (which in itself is simply jaw dropping lol)
-He's a little crazy. HE plays with a ton of emotion.
-HEs the best WR in football.
-HE never ever ever gets in any trouble off the field.
-He pushes the limits of the celebrating and gets a flag for it every now n then but if you look at all the other things not getting called or getting called around the NFL, he's really no "worse" than anyone else. Why is the Packers leap into the stands not a flag but Beckham taking off his helmet out of bounds is? And why is BEckham demonized on ESPN TEN FUCKING SECONDS AFTER THEY BALL WASHED GRONK FOR TRYING TO FIGHT THE ENTIRE BENGALS TEAM???!!!!!
IF the Giants had a team filled with Beckhams they would never lose and the media would ball wash them all because they win.
It's hypocritical bullshit. IT's all up to the refs discretion and the media's opinion. As they go so goes the narrative.
Best non QB player this franchise has touched in decades and he HATES TO FUCKING LOSE. Wahhh he gets emotional and isn't composed like I want him to be. Am I right?
Antonio Brown also gets flagged for air humping a lot. Some fans in Pittsburgh are getting a little tired of it. But their radio guys say hat Brown at least waits until the game is in hand before making lude gestures. Not sure if the latter part is true. Either way, the media doesn't cover it like they cover Odell. Kid has a target on him. It's bull shit.
I agree that Beckham is the best wide receiver in the sport. I hope that he's the guy to catch Eli's 1,000th touchdown pass in 2040.
He's just got to stop the bullshit. If he's being targeted by the NFL it's because he put the target there himself.
Just stop getting penalties and stop being a distraction. The guy can be the best receiver maybe ever. Just be that.
I agree that Beckham is the best wide receiver in the sport. I hope that he's the guy to catch Eli's 1,000th touchdown pass in 2040.
He's just got to stop the bullshit. If he's being targeted by the NFL it's because he put the target there himself.
Just stop getting penalties and stop being a distraction. The guy can be the best receiver maybe ever. Just be that.
I also don't seem to understand what it's going to take for Beckham to "get it" on the field, like he claims he gets it when off the field.
1. Coaches (and Eli) speak to him.
2. He assures everyone he "gets it."
3. He goes on the field and gets a conduct penalty.
4. Coaches (and Eli) speak to him.
5. He assures everyone he "gets it."
6. He goes on the field and gets a conduct penalty.