A jersey grab early in the play, but it's still bullshit. He made a great play on the ball and had position. Football is tough to watch this year overall. The league is going downhill.
A jersey grab early in the play, but it's still bullshit. He made a great play on the ball and had position. Football is tough to watch this year overall. The league is going downhill.
That's what happens when you value PR more than the quality of the game. Women as a whole I'm sure can ref games as well as men, doesn't mean ALL women can.
Ravens entire offense in the 2nd half was pass interference penalties. I'm still a bit in disbelief.
And there really should be ramifications. Nearly hands them that game and a loss there pretty much derails our season. Then that costs some players and coaches their jobs, so shouldn't the refs be held accountable in the same way?
that maybe it's not incompetent refs that the NFL doesn't want to replace, maybe they're trying to control the outcome of games.
Obviously nothing to prove that, except that it's hard to believe the NFL would look the other way while these incompetent part time refs continue to shit the bed with no consequences.
It was right in front of me. The ref had to have had it backwards. I thought we were going to rush the damn field. The stadium was pissed. If nothing else it woke the crowd up.
RE: The call was not for the foul in the end zone...
It was right in front of me. The ref had to have had it backwards. I thought we were going to rush the damn field. The stadium was pissed. If nothing else it woke the crowd up.
The ref clearly confused offense and defense. Thought DRC was the receiver. SHOULD have been corrected, but wasn't.
It was right in front of me. The ref had to have had it backwards. I thought we were going to rush the damn field. The stadium was pissed. If nothing else it woke the crowd up.
The ref clearly confused offense and defense. Thought DRC was the receiver. SHOULD have been corrected, but wasn't.
If that's the case, the entire crew should be fired immediately.
but even after time to think about it, it's not a hyperbolic statement to say that the call was bar none one of the worst calls I've ever seen in a college or NFL game (including the replacement refs Seattle/GB game), and DEFINITELY the worst call I've seen affect one of "my" teams.
It was right in front of me. The ref had to have had it backwards. I thought we were going to rush the damn field. The stadium was pissed. If nothing else it woke the crowd up.
Oh man dude, I am with you. I was in 131, so it was on the other side of the field, but I'm talking more about the anger from the stadium.
The first Giants game I went to was against the steelers in 94 when I was 5 years old. I've only missed a handful of games since then (less than 20) - I have never heard a stadium boo a call for the next 5-6 plays. In fact, the new 10 times the ref talked into the mic, even if it was unrelated, the stadium boo'd.
its time to startsuspending or firing officials; the NFL needs to send the message that it is a two way street, and calls like that from officials will not be tolerated.
Triplett said "The defender impeded the receiver from coming back for the ball". Which indicates a few things - all of which should get the guy fired.
1) He didn't confer with the ref enough to understand the call
2) It was for impedment which is why it was placed at the 8 yard line.
3) It was NOT for a grab or an arm bar or the ball would've been placed at the 20 or the 17.
4) He not only allowed the call to stand, he doubled down on stupidity by explaining it in a BS manner.
within games is maddening. On what planet can defenders push like they did on the Lewis play in the end zone ot on the INT when Shepard was tripped, but DRC can get flagged with literally no contact?
It really should be an immediate reprimand for that crew.
Seriously.
I missed most of the game while umpiring a doubleheader today
Driving home, I couldn't get a signal from WFAN, so I listened to the Ravens' broadcast. The announcers initially thought it was offensive pass interference. After the call was made, they admitted that if that call was made on the Ravens defense, they would be flipping out.
is that DRC worked his way into position where he looked like the receiver. If the two players switched where they were on the play and the WR reaches behind him and gets a hold of the DB's jersey for only a split second like that, there is NO way that gets called as offensive PI. So there's no way it should have been called on the DB in this situation.
Most of you guys have already pointed out all the bad/missed calls, but even the challenge during the Ravens interception (the one that was challenged on whether or not 1. It was a clean interception and 2. if the DB should have been down on contact) was bad. It was clear that Shepard's leg made contact with the DB once intercepted the ball, yet they said it was inconclusive. The commentators were laughing because it seemed pretty damn clear that contact was made, therefore making the DB down by contact.
It was just an embarrassment of a game by Triplette and co.
RE: Just watched the end of the Falcons/Seahawks...
i know this has been discussed on here all day but I felt like I was tripping on shrooms watching that DRC penalty. Unbelievably bad. I went to the game and that was right in front of me.
Call was bogus. Out of endzone and wasn't
Celebrating.
You don't know the rules. You need to be on the sideline at your bench area. They have lines drawn out of bounds to indicate where the bench area begins which is between the 30's. Your helmet is not supposed to be taken off until you are in that area.
Triplett said "The defender impeded the receiver from coming back for the ball". Which indicates a few things - all of which should get the guy fired.
1) He didn't confer with the ref enough to understand the call
2) It was for impedment which is why it was placed at the 8 yard line.
3) It was NOT for a grab or an arm bar or the ball would've been placed at the 20 or the 17.
4) He not only allowed the call to stand, he doubled down on stupidity by explaining it in a BS manner.
The entire impedment explanation is bullshit on his part. Since DRC was also looking back to the ball, he has a right to shield the WR from getting into position from making the catch.
The play was almost comically clear, clean, and unobstructed, like you'd see in a football movie where the defense makes a great play.
Just remarkably odd and confounding. I remember thinking if we lose the game at that point I can't be mad at the Giants. I'm not a ref bitcher and I never have been, but I would've blamed them for the loss if we lost that one.
you are the one who doesn't know the rule. It isn't restricted to the bench area - it is only applied to the field of play:
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REMOVAL OF HELMET
(h) Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play during a celebration or during a confrontation
with a game official or any other player shall result in a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
you are the one who doesn't know the rule. It isn't restricted to the bench area - it is only applied to the field of play:
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REMOVAL OF HELMET
(h) Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play during a celebration or during a confrontation
with a game official or any other player shall result in a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
Huh. Using that explanation of the rule, the player should be able to take off his helmet even if he is still in the endzone, since they clearly distinguish between the field of play and the endzone in their description of the Field:
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The lines at each end of the field are termed End Lines. Those on each side are termed Sidelines. Goal Lines shall be established in the field 10 yards from and parallel to each end line. The area bounded by goal lines and sidelines is known as the Field of Play.
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The Field includes the Field of Play and the End Zones.
I was ready for an explanation that he started taking off the helmet before he exited the back of the end zone, but that shouldn't even matter.
RE: The call was not for the foul in the end zone...
you are the one who doesn't know the rule. It isn't restricted to the bench area - it is only applied to the field of play:
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REMOVAL OF HELMET
(h) Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play during a celebration or during a confrontation
with a game official or any other player shall result in a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
Huh again. I just looked at that section of the rulebook posted by Giants_ROK and it is slightly different than the one you posted:
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i. Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play or the end zone during a celebration or demonstration, or during a confrontation with a game official or any other player.
So it includes the end zone. I still don't think he had it off in the end zone, but I guess they could argue that he started to take it off while still in it.
The penalty was for a supposed arm-bar or something like that earlier in the play around the 11 yard line.
I didn't see interference at the 11 on DRC... but that's the call.
If that's a flag, it can be called on every play.
Shitty day by the refs.
two key issues?
1. shitty officiating
2. neutering the remotest of possibilities for a team to play defense
And there really should be ramifications. Nearly hands them that game and a loss there pretty much derails our season. Then that costs some players and coaches their jobs, so shouldn't the refs be held accountable in the same way?
I nearly lost my voice from screaming so much after that one.
Obviously nothing to prove that, except that it's hard to believe the NFL would look the other way while these incompetent part time refs continue to shit the bed with no consequences.
The penalty was for a supposed arm-bar or something like that earlier in the play around the 11 yard line.
I didn't see interference at the 11 on DRC... but that's the call.
But if that was the case, why didn't the flag come in sooner?
The ref clearly confused offense and defense. Thought DRC was the receiver. SHOULD have been corrected, but wasn't.
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It was right in front of me. The ref had to have had it backwards. I thought we were going to rush the damn field. The stadium was pissed. If nothing else it woke the crowd up.
The ref clearly confused offense and defense. Thought DRC was the receiver. SHOULD have been corrected, but wasn't.
If that's the case, the entire crew should be fired immediately.
The first Giants game I went to was against the steelers in 94 when I was 5 years old. I've only missed a handful of games since then (less than 20) - I have never heard a stadium boo a call for the next 5-6 plays. In fact, the new 10 times the ref talked into the mic, even if it was unrelated, the stadium boo'd.
That was an atrocious call.
Lmao
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our Playoff game in 2011 versus GB? that ref crew was equally putrid
That was Bill Leavy, who has since retired.
Triplette did the regular season game that year. He should follow in Leavy's footsteps. NOW!
The Triplette special!
INCOMPLETE!!!
The officiating continues to be an embarrassment league wide.
Celebrating.
1) He didn't confer with the ref enough to understand the call
2) It was for impedment which is why it was placed at the 8 yard line.
3) It was NOT for a grab or an arm bar or the ball would've been placed at the 20 or the 17.
4) He not only allowed the call to stand, he doubled down on stupidity by explaining it in a BS manner.
INCOMPLETE!!!
Thank you for posting that photo. I am a Ballard fanboy. He was a lunchpail player and that was one of his best (stolen) moments.
That team was 10-6, not 9-7 and we're lucky they made the post-season and, thankfully, got revenge on Green Bay.
It really should be an immediate reprimand for that crew.
Seriously.
It was just an embarrassment of a game by Triplette and co.
The officiating continues to be an embarrassment league wide.
Something more than just bad grading or fines need to be done.
Celebrating.
You don't know the rules. You need to be on the sideline at your bench area. They have lines drawn out of bounds to indicate where the bench area begins which is between the 30's. Your helmet is not supposed to be taken off until you are in that area.
1) He didn't confer with the ref enough to understand the call
2) It was for impedment which is why it was placed at the 8 yard line.
3) It was NOT for a grab or an arm bar or the ball would've been placed at the 20 or the 17.
4) He not only allowed the call to stand, he doubled down on stupidity by explaining it in a BS manner.
The entire impedment explanation is bullshit on his part. Since DRC was also looking back to the ball, he has a right to shield the WR from getting into position from making the catch.
Just remarkably odd and confounding. I remember thinking if we lose the game at that point I can't be mad at the Giants. I'm not a ref bitcher and I never have been, but I would've blamed them for the loss if we lost that one.
What an unbelievably bad call.
(h) Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play during a celebration or during a confrontation
with a game official or any other player shall result in a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
Here's a link to the rule book.
There are a shit-ton of them. - ( New Window )
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REMOVAL OF HELMET
(h) Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play during a celebration or during a confrontation
with a game official or any other player shall result in a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
Huh. Using that explanation of the rule, the player should be able to take off his helmet even if he is still in the endzone, since they clearly distinguish between the field of play and the endzone in their description of the Field:
The lines at each end of the field are termed End Lines. Those on each side are termed Sidelines. Goal Lines shall be established in the field 10 yards from and parallel to each end line. The area bounded by goal lines and sidelines is known as the Field of Play.
....
The Field includes the Field of Play and the End Zones.
I was ready for an explanation that he started taking off the helmet before he exited the back of the end zone, but that shouldn't even matter.
The penalty was for a supposed arm-bar or something like that earlier in the play around the 11 yard line.
I didn't see interference at the 11 on DRC... but that's the call.
Then why didn't the flag come out until the very end??
Quote:
REMOVAL OF HELMET
(h) Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play during a celebration or during a confrontation
with a game official or any other player shall result in a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
Huh again. I just looked at that section of the rulebook posted by Giants_ROK and it is slightly different than the one you posted:
i. Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play or the end zone during a celebration or demonstration, or during a confrontation with a game official or any other player.
So it includes the end zone. I still don't think he had it off in the end zone, but I guess they could argue that he started to take it off while still in it.
Unsportsmanlike conduct - ( New Window )