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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/16/2016 4:37 pm
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PI call in #BALvsNYG was not correct. Official almost seemed to confuse offense and defense.
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The call was not for the foul in the end zone...  
M.S. : 10/16/2016 5:09 pm : link
...which was an obvious WR Interference call.

The penalty was for a supposed arm-bar or something like that earlier in the play around the 11 yard line.

I didn't see interference at the 11 on DRC... but that's the call.
One of the worst calls I've ever seen...  
Torrag : 10/16/2016 5:10 pm : link
Inexcusable in a big spot during a crucial game. So obvious it calls into question the integrity of the zebra and the game in general.
On DRC play I saw  
Jerry's Kids : 10/16/2016 5:10 pm : link
A jersey grab early in the play, but it's still bullshit. He made a great play on the ball and had position. Football is tough to watch this year overall. The league is going downhill.
RE: On DRC play I saw  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/16/2016 5:11 pm : link
In comment 13176314 Jerry's Kids said:
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A jersey grab early in the play, but it's still bullshit. He made a great play on the ball and had position. Football is tough to watch this year overall. The league is going downhill.


If that's a flag, it can be called on every play.

Shitty day by the refs.
as i said in a deleted thread (???)  
TexasGmenFan : 10/16/2016 5:13 pm : link
couldn't have been more perfectly timed given the multiple discussions on this forum over the past week in terms of losing interest in the NFL.

two key issues?
1. shitty officiating
2. neutering the remotest of possibilities for a team to play defense
The female ref thing seems like a gimmick  
BestFeature : 10/16/2016 5:13 pm : link
That's what happens when you value PR more than the quality of the game. Women as a whole I'm sure can ref games as well as men, doesn't mean ALL women can.
If the NFL values PR  
widmerseyebrow : 10/16/2016 5:30 pm : link
Why is Jeff Triplette still employed? He's fucked up numerous games, Super Bowls even, long before today.
One of the worst calls I've ever seen  
Kyle in NY : 10/16/2016 5:39 pm : link
Ravens entire offense in the 2nd half was pass interference penalties. I'm still a bit in disbelief.

And there really should be ramifications. Nearly hands them that game and a loss there pretty much derails our season. Then that costs some players and coaches their jobs, so shouldn't the refs be held accountable in the same way?
I'm sure this is inaccurate  
bigbluehoya : 10/16/2016 5:40 pm : link
But I'm about to be 34 years old in a few weeks and it feels like Jeff Triplette has been fucking up games since I was a little kid
DRC made a great play on the ball.  
EricJ : 10/16/2016 5:41 pm : link
if they are going to call any penalty at all, MAYBE defensive holding for a slight grab of the shirt 10 yards earlier.

I nearly lost my voice from screaming so much after that one.
I don't even think they mixed up offense and defense  
Matt M. : 10/16/2016 5:41 pm : link
I don't think there was anything remotely resembling PI from either player.
It's performances like this one that have me thinking  
jcn56 : 10/16/2016 5:50 pm : link
that maybe it's not incompetent refs that the NFL doesn't want to replace, maybe they're trying to control the outcome of games.

Obviously nothing to prove that, except that it's hard to believe the NFL would look the other way while these incompetent part time refs continue to shit the bed with no consequences.
I was in section 110  
bradshaw44 : 10/16/2016 5:50 pm : link
It was right in front of me. The ref had to have had it backwards. I thought we were going to rush the damn field. The stadium was pissed. If nothing else it woke the crowd up.
RE: The call was not for the foul in the end zone...  
JOrthman : 10/16/2016 5:52 pm : link
In comment 13176304 M.S. said:
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...which was an obvious WR Interference call.

The penalty was for a supposed arm-bar or something like that earlier in the play around the 11 yard line.

I didn't see interference at the 11 on DRC... but that's the call.


But if that was the case, why didn't the flag come in sooner?
RE: I was in section 110  
Stan in LA : 10/16/2016 5:55 pm : link
In comment 13176441 bradshaw44 said:
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It was right in front of me. The ref had to have had it backwards. I thought we were going to rush the damn field. The stadium was pissed. If nothing else it woke the crowd up.


The ref clearly confused offense and defense. Thought DRC was the receiver. SHOULD have been corrected, but wasn't.
incompetence doesn't even explain it  
giants#1 : 10/16/2016 5:55 pm : link
there wasn't even handchecking on the play. That had to be a crooked ref with money on the game.
RE: RE: I was in section 110  
giants#1 : 10/16/2016 5:56 pm : link
In comment 13176474 Stan in LA said:
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In comment 13176441 bradshaw44 said:


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It was right in front of me. The ref had to have had it backwards. I thought we were going to rush the damn field. The stadium was pissed. If nothing else it woke the crowd up.



The ref clearly confused offense and defense. Thought DRC was the receiver. SHOULD have been corrected, but wasn't.


If that's the case, the entire crew should be fired immediately.
I said it on Facebook after the game  
Sonic Youth : 10/16/2016 6:00 pm : link
but even after time to think about it, it's not a hyperbolic statement to say that the call was bar none one of the worst calls I've ever seen in a college or NFL game (including the replacement refs Seattle/GB game), and DEFINITELY the worst call I've seen affect one of "my" teams.
RE: I was in section 110  
Sonic Youth : 10/16/2016 6:01 pm : link
In comment 13176441 bradshaw44 said:
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It was right in front of me. The ref had to have had it backwards. I thought we were going to rush the damn field. The stadium was pissed. If nothing else it woke the crowd up.
Oh man dude, I am with you. I was in 131, so it was on the other side of the field, but I'm talking more about the anger from the stadium.

The first Giants game I went to was against the steelers in 94 when I was 5 years old. I've only missed a handful of games since then (less than 20) - I have never heard a stadium boo a call for the next 5-6 plays. In fact, the new 10 times the ref talked into the mic, even if it was unrelated, the stadium boo'd.

That was an atrocious call.
Literally one of the worst calls I've ever seen  
nygmen84 : 10/16/2016 6:05 pm : link
Not even an exaggeration. Absolutely horrendous. How that official still has a job is beyond me.
What was his explanation?  
area junc : 10/16/2016 6:38 pm : link
Something like "DB didnt allow receiver a path to the football"????

Lmao
When calls like that are made ...  
Beer Man : 10/16/2016 7:17 pm : link
its time to startsuspending or firing officials; the NFL needs to send the message that it is a two way street, and calls like that from officials will not be tolerated.
RE: RE: did Triplette crew ref  
Bramton1 : 10/16/2016 7:33 pm : link
In comment 13176167 Giants_ROK said:
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In comment 13176134 Paulie Walnuts said:


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our Playoff game in 2011 versus GB? that ref crew was equally putrid


That was Bill Leavy, who has since retired.

Triplette did the regular season game that year. He should follow in Leavy's footsteps. NOW!


The Triplette special!


INCOMPLETE!!!
Just watched the end of the Falcons/Seahawks...  
okiegiant : 10/16/2016 7:41 pm : link
Sherman had a ton of contact on Jones (especially compared to DRC)and there was no call.

The officiating continues to be an embarrassment league wide.
At least we won  
Mike in NY : 10/16/2016 7:41 pm : link
Richard Sherman had a blatant DPI on 4th and 10 that the officials let go. Looked like FJ82 Buddy Horton had the miss
obj  
eliapple : 10/16/2016 8:22 pm : link
Call was bogus. Out of endzone and wasn't
Celebrating.
What did Triplette say when he called the penalty?  
Tesla : 10/16/2016 8:37 pm : link
Sounded like PI for dragging the receiver down?
Here was the BS call..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/16/2016 9:04 pm : link
Triplett said "The defender impeded the receiver from coming back for the ball". Which indicates a few things - all of which should get the guy fired.

1) He didn't confer with the ref enough to understand the call
2) It was for impedment which is why it was placed at the 8 yard line.
3) It was NOT for a grab or an arm bar or the ball would've been placed at the 20 or the 17.
4) He not only allowed the call to stand, he doubled down on stupidity by explaining it in a BS manner.
RE: RE: RE: did Triplette crew ref  
Overseer : 10/16/2016 9:09 pm : link
In comment 13176751 Bramton1 said:
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The Triplette special!


INCOMPLETE!!!

Thank you for posting that photo. I am a Ballard fanboy. He was a lunchpail player and that was one of his best (stolen) moments.

That team was 10-6, not 9-7 and we're lucky they made the post-season and, thankfully, got revenge on Green Bay.
For good measure...  
Overseer : 10/16/2016 9:11 pm : link
[img]http://cache.sharenxs.com/images/wz/cabc/af/ac/a-/aa/Patslapse2.gif[img]
(take 2)  
Overseer : 10/16/2016 9:11 pm : link
The consistency even..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/16/2016 9:14 pm : link
within games is maddening. On what planet can defenders push like they did on the Lewis play in the end zone ot on the INT when Shepard was tripped, but DRC can get flagged with literally no contact?

It really should be an immediate reprimand for that crew.

Seriously.
I missed most of the game while umpiring a doubleheader today  
Bramton1 : 10/16/2016 9:16 pm : link
Driving home, I couldn't get a signal from WFAN, so I listened to the Ravens' broadcast. The announcers initially thought it was offensive pass interference. After the call was made, they admitted that if that call was made on the Ravens defense, they would be flipping out.
The way I look at it  
jhibb : 10/16/2016 9:19 pm : link
is that DRC worked his way into position where he looked like the receiver. If the two players switched where they were on the play and the WR reaches behind him and gets a hold of the DB's jersey for only a split second like that, there is NO way that gets called as offensive PI. So there's no way it should have been called on the DB in this situation.
Ravens Interception Challenge  
stillpoe : 10/16/2016 9:28 pm : link
Most of you guys have already pointed out all the bad/missed calls, but even the challenge during the Ravens interception (the one that was challenged on whether or not 1. It was a clean interception and 2. if the DB should have been down on contact) was bad. It was clear that Shepard's leg made contact with the DB once intercepted the ball, yet they said it was inconclusive. The commentators were laughing because it seemed pretty damn clear that contact was made, therefore making the DB down by contact.

It was just an embarrassment of a game by Triplette and co.
RE: Just watched the end of the Falcons/Seahawks...  
Joey in VA : 10/16/2016 9:48 pm : link
In comment 13176770 okiegiant said:
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Sherman had a ton of contact on Jones (especially compared to DRC)and there was no call.

The officiating continues to be an embarrassment league wide.
That was straight garbage too, the entire NFL is being officiated as poorly as it has ever been and that is saying something.
.....  
Route 9 : 10/16/2016 10:09 pm : link
i know this has been discussed on here all day but I felt like I was tripping on shrooms watching that DRC penalty. Unbelievably bad. I went to the game and that was right in front of me.
....  
yankees78 : 10/16/2016 10:11 pm : link
Jeff Triplette is so fucking awful
Tripplette has a bad history with atrocious calls  
micky : 10/16/2016 10:23 pm : link
Time for head of officiating (lol i know) dean blandino to start suspending him or fire him..which unfortunately wont happen.

Something more than just bad grading or fines need to be done.
RE: obj  
EricJ : 10/16/2016 10:23 pm : link
In comment 13176894 eliapple said:
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Call was bogus. Out of endzone and wasn't
Celebrating.


You don't know the rules. You need to be on the sideline at your bench area. They have lines drawn out of bounds to indicate where the bench area begins which is between the 30's. Your helmet is not supposed to be taken off until you are in that area.
RE: Here was the BS call..  
EricJ : 10/16/2016 10:26 pm : link
In comment 13177016 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Triplett said "The defender impeded the receiver from coming back for the ball". Which indicates a few things - all of which should get the guy fired.

1) He didn't confer with the ref enough to understand the call
2) It was for impedment which is why it was placed at the 8 yard line.
3) It was NOT for a grab or an arm bar or the ball would've been placed at the 20 or the 17.
4) He not only allowed the call to stand, he doubled down on stupidity by explaining it in a BS manner.


The entire impedment explanation is bullshit on his part. Since DRC was also looking back to the ball, he has a right to shield the WR from getting into position from making the catch.
One of the worst calls I've ever seen.  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/16/2016 10:27 pm : link
The play was almost comically clear, clean, and unobstructed, like you'd see in a football movie where the defense makes a great play.

Just remarkably odd and confounding. I remember thinking if we lose the game at that point I can't be mad at the Giants. I'm not a ref bitcher and I never have been, but I would've blamed them for the loss if we lost that one.

What an unbelievably bad call.
Actually..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/16/2016 10:28 pm : link
you are the one who doesn't know the rule. It isn't restricted to the bench area - it is only applied to the field of play:

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REMOVAL OF HELMET
(h) Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play during a celebration or during a confrontation
with a game official or any other player shall result in a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
I was just about to post  
Giants_ROK : 10/16/2016 10:35 pm : link
the quote FMiC did.

Here's a link to the rule book.
There are a shit-ton of them. - ( New Window )
...  
christian : 10/16/2016 10:38 pm : link
I'll buy for arguments sake DRC grabbed his shirt. Doesn't mean the WRS can climb over his back. There can be offsetting penalties.
Been reading the sports pages.  
section125 : 10/16/2016 10:51 pm : link
Every writer lambasts the PI call on DRC. They normally do not do that.
RE: Actually..  
jhibb : 10/16/2016 11:02 pm : link
In comment 13177188 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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you are the one who doesn't know the rule. It isn't restricted to the bench area - it is only applied to the field of play:



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REMOVAL OF HELMET
(h) Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play during a celebration or during a confrontation
with a game official or any other player shall result in a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.



Huh. Using that explanation of the rule, the player should be able to take off his helmet even if he is still in the endzone, since they clearly distinguish between the field of play and the endzone in their description of the Field:

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The lines at each end of the field are termed End Lines. Those on each side are termed Sidelines. Goal Lines shall be established in the field 10 yards from and parallel to each end line. The area bounded by goal lines and sidelines is known as the Field of Play.

....

The Field includes the Field of Play and the End Zones.


I was ready for an explanation that he started taking off the helmet before he exited the back of the end zone, but that shouldn't even matter.


RE: The call was not for the foul in the end zone...  
weaverpsu : 10/16/2016 11:32 pm : link
In comment 13176304 M.S. said:
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...which was an obvious WR Interference call.

The penalty was for a supposed arm-bar or something like that earlier in the play around the 11 yard line.

I didn't see interference at the 11 on DRC... but that's the call.

Then why didn't the flag come out until the very end??
RE: Actually..  
jhibb : 10/16/2016 11:35 pm : link
In comment 13177188 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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you are the one who doesn't know the rule. It isn't restricted to the bench area - it is only applied to the field of play:



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REMOVAL OF HELMET
(h) Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play during a celebration or during a confrontation
with a game official or any other player shall result in a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.



Huh again. I just looked at that section of the rulebook posted by Giants_ROK and it is slightly different than the one you posted:

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i. Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play or the end zone during a celebration or demonstration, or during a confrontation with a game official or any other player.


So it includes the end zone. I still don't think he had it off in the end zone, but I guess they could argue that he started to take it off while still in it.

Unsportsmanlike conduct - ( New Window )
Different game  
mitch300 : 10/16/2016 11:54 pm : link
The end of the Falcons and Seahawks, Sherman grabs Julio Jones right arm, clear as day. No call. The officiating sucks league wide.
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