Larry Donnell

No awareness whatsoever.

Haven't seen it myself, but it sure sounds incredibly boneheaded. He's hardly the only one, but he makes more than his share of bad mistakes.

defenders earlier was dumb. The lack of field awareness on the play in question is dumb and brings into question his toughness. Remember here is a guy that cannot block to save his life.

Personally I would cut him tomorrow...not just for this play but his play this entire season.

I'd rather have Bear Pascoe back.

In a critical situation, to stutter step out of bounds against a corner half his size, instead of plowing forward for the 1st. Wow.

Donnell is a bone head.

it will cost the Giants games this season. You can see that Manning wants to make these guys NFL players since he (Eli) likes to throw to Tight Ends, but it just ain't happening with these guys.

It's a major need.

But he is terrible with the ball in his hands. He seems to think he's a nifty scat back, trying to juke people and jump over defenders. Uh, shithead? Lower your fucking shoulder and get the fucking first down.

Kid needs someone to explain reality to him.

And came back to play football. I don't think toughness is the problem, just a complete lack of football IQ.

he's been playing TE long enough now to know that. He needs to know what the situation is on the play and to ensure he uses his physical build to get that first down. He also tried to hurdle a defender again with the ball flying away from his body. Just so undisciplined. The whole team is undisciplined and it could have easily cost us the game again.

I know Adams is a rookie, but I think he offers what we're looking for from our TES. Someone who can get the ball in the middle of the field and do something with it. He's got nice athleticism. I would like to see him get more playing time, but I think the coaches are committed to Donnell and Tye right now.

In comment 13176420 Mad Mike said:

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Haven't seen it myself, but it sure sounds incredibly boneheaded. He's hardly the only one, but he makes more than his share of bad mistakes.

One would think it outdistanced anything else he did as Larry's dumbest play of the game, but no... it was a 2 way tie.

If they haven't cut him at this point, there's no reason to think they will now. He will be out of the league as fast as Rueben Randle was when the Giants eventually (maybe?) get rid of him.

That was upsetting

his issue isn't effort or toughness--it's a lack of awareness and an unwillingness to learn.

He tries jumping over a player with the ball not protected and runs out of bounds without even trying to run over the smaller DB.

Adrien Robinson of TE's

Absolutely unbelievable and extremely luck that he didn't fumble. Christ.

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In comment 13176484 jogo1 said:

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his issue isn't effort or toughness--it's a lack of awareness and an unwillingness to learn.

But they both have the same knack for killing drives and doing dumb crap.

the black unicorn?

and that's including QB's.

What pictures does he have?

(is it Gilbride Jr.?) needs to press McAdon't & Reese to find another guy. Donnell is one of the worst FB players I have seen, at any level.

Let Tye/Larry compete at the 2 and get a blocking stud in here who can run a route or two

Tired of him.

are it for me. I don't want this idiot playing anymore.

caught a pass, then attempted to jump over defenders, arm stretched forward with the ball in one hand, just boggled my mind. He's lucky not to have turned the ball there, as well as not gotten injured. That was way too risky.

Then later, on 3rd down, he just stepped out of bounds about 1 yard shy of the 1st down marker. If the explanation for not lowering his shoulder there, is that he is still recovering from the concussion, then he shouldn't have been on the field today.

Furthermore, he always has the ball hanging to his side when he runs or leaps which is why he fumbles so often. A lot of blame also needs to go to TE coach Gilbride. There is a reason you have not been seeing any growth from our TE's. I doubt you would have seen such ineptness when Pope was the TE coach.

Very possible

In comment 13176601 DennyInDenville said:

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Very possible

KGJ could be the worst position coach of all-time and I still wouldn't blame him for that asshole. The guy has no football awareness at all. He's only good for catching a high pass in the end zone maybe twice a season.

He was another one of JR projects. He was a wasted pick. Drafting has been our achilles heel.

Has to come to mind and LD not knowing the down and distance
for a guy his size he should have easily got the needed
yardage . I just think he isn't very bright nor is he
being coached up at all . The way he carries the ball
its like he is begging to have it knocked out of his
hands . The fact that the coaches aren't on to him about it
is baffling .

jus t to coach THREE guys

thought he was making a heads up play by getting OOB and stopping the clock. Unfortuately, job #1 was getting the first down.
I don't think he can walk and chew gum at the same time

Like he is playing basketball

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In comment 13176616 joe48 said:

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He was another one of JR projects. He was a wasted pick. Drafting has been our achilles heel.

Oh really? Remind me what round Donnell was drafted in.

In comment 13176768 ThatLimerickGuy said:

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In comment 13176616 joe48 said: Quote: He was another one of JR projects. He was a wasted pick. Drafting has been our achilles heel. Oh really? Remind me what round Donnell was drafted in.

He was signed as an undrafted free agent in 2012.

All he had to do was make the defender tackle him and he picks up the first down. He could of did his jump in the air and flip over and got the first.

and Adams gradually moved ahead of Donnell. Adams has some receiving talent and can block.

"Reach" by the moron?

position over the past 4-5 years has been baffling. The coaching (or lack of), the talent (or lack of) and the complete disregard for improving the position either through the draft, a trade or via free agency.

Jumps every time he's facing contact with zero awareness. Good athlete shitty football player.

In comment 13176690 PEEJ said:

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thought he was making a heads up play by getting OOB and stopping the clock. Unfortuately, job #1 was getting the first down. I don't think he can walk and chew gum at the same time

You're right! He actually looked pleased with himself, as if he made a clever play. And that pissed me off even more than the play itself. He hesitated after making the catch, appearing to be deciding what to do, then stepped out of bounds having evidently decided it was the smart thing.

you're joking, right?

but Eli plays better with him in the lineup over tye. Giants are just missing a big target in the middle of the field that can get some yac. Maybe that guy is Adams but who knows

A look? Owen Daniels?

That Donnell has been the starting tight end for as long as he has. IMO, he is not an NFL caliber player let alone a starter. He does NOTHING well.

In comment 13176616 joe48 said:

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He was another one of JR projects. He was a wasted pick. Drafting has been our achilles heel.

He wasn't a draft pick, genius. How can you waste a pick on someone who wasn't even a draft pick?

What other team would have this guy on the roster.

for continually catching punts inside the 10 yard line.

Another moron

than he has been afterward - that is really disappointing, and I'm not sure it's all on him.

In comment 13176558 Bill in TN said:

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(is it Gilbride Jr.?) needs to press McAdon't & Reese to find another guy. Donnell is one of the worst FB players I have seen, at any level.

KG jr. is one of Donnell's biggest supporters. Let's not forget it was coaches that wanted him to return.

Just as three weeks ago, Eli and McAdoo described him as a play maker.

I have never liked Donnell. Never.

Was the last time Donnell fumbled a football in an NFL game. That was his "rookie year" where he scored 6 TDs caught 60 passes and gained 600 yards... and also had 4 fumbles. (Note: that was his 3rd year in the league after being signed as an UDFA by the Giants.) He's had no fumbles in the 16 games he's played since though.

He makes weird mental errors and jumps like a deranged deer, but he also has shown he can score. He's not the answer long term, but he's not as bad as you guys are making him seem. IMO we should draft one of the top 3 TEs this off season (Howard/Hodges/Butt), but Donnell and Tye are good enough for us to make do.

In comment 13176616 joe48 said:

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He was another one of JR projects. He was a wasted pick. Drafting has been our achilles heel.

I think he was an undrafted free agent.

that step out a yard short of the first down was effing infuriatingly stupid and there's no excuse for that lack of gamer-ism or game play awareness.

a$$hole for running OB on that play, did anybody else notice the OBJ was running wide open over the middle (from left to right) and would have been an easy 1st down.

I don't know how Eli didn't see him as he was actually just a few yards behind Donnell. I was absolutely surprised the ball went to Donnell. Maybe Beckham was hidden behind the line.

TE for 3 years now. unreal

mess of a player.

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In comment 1317Donnell fumbled a football in an NFL game. That was his "rooki7115 adamg said:

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Was the last time e y" where he scored 6 TDs caught 60 passes and gained 600 yards... and also had 4 fumbles. (Note: that was his 3rd yearear ins the league after being signed as an UDFA by the Giants.) He' had no fumbles in the 16 games he's played since though. He makes weird mental errors and jumps like a deranged deer, but he also has shown he can score. He's not the answer long term, but he's not as bad as you guys are making him seem. IMO we should draft one of the top 3 TEs this off season (Howard/Hodges/Butt), but Donnell and Tye are good enough for us to make do.

Didn't Donnell lose a ball last year against Philly? it wasn't so much as a fumble, but weak hands got the ball stripped from him and ruled an INT, I think.

In comment 13176484 jogo1 said:

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his issue isn't effort or toughness--it's a lack of awareness and an unwillingness to learn.

Randle's issue wasn't effort???

Three was enough space that he just needed to run straight for the marker, angling toward the sideline. Even if he was a drop short, an extension of the arm gets the first.

Hahaha....wow. Hope you are confusing him with another player because that was far and away his BIGGEST issue. Wow.

In comment 13177335 SHO'NUFF said:

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In comment 13176484 jogo1 said: Quote: his issue isn't effort or toughness--it's a lack of awareness and an unwillingness to learn. Randle's issue wasn't effort???

He's saying he's not like Randle i believe. It's not Donnells effort or toughness as much as lack of awareness. Randle appeared to lack everything besides raw talent.

and is a big body type TE that can play on the line of scrimmage (a little bit anyway.

Adams is missing one of those qualifications and Tye the other.

to keep him on the team at this point. He refuses to stop the leaping nonsense continually putting the ball in harms way. The lack of understanding on the down/distance 3rd down play was par for the course for him.

Anything other than a player cut here is mis-management.