Green Bay entered yesterday's game against Dallas at 27th in the NFL in passing. Rodgers was the least accurate of all qualifying quarterbacks with a completion percentage of 56.1%.
That improved a little bit after their loss last night...
Green Bay now 25th in passing, and Rodgers moved up to 23rd in completion percentage. But the whole thing still looks off.
Not sure how much GB you've watched this year, but their o-line has not been the problem.
Rodgers has gotten great pass protection this year. Not good. Great.
Perhaps we can draw some parallels to our own situation, offensively. IIRC the Packers never had a really good OLine during his tenure. Rodgers was unstoppable when he had Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Randall Cobb and Jermichael Finley. He certainly looks different with average receivers.
Perhaps we can draw some parallels to our own situation, offensively. IIRC the Packers never had a really good OLine during his tenure. Rodgers was unstoppable when he had Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Randall Cobb and Jermichael Finley. He certainly looks different with average receivers.
Yeah, he sure looks different with...Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb.
Women.,.weaken..legs!!!
It is really baffling as to what has happened to him and GB.
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oline issues and no true threat at TE. He's bandaged it for a long time, but its catching up to him as he gets older.
Rodgers has gotten great pass protection this year. Not good. Great.
I've watch a few of their games. Seems like he's scrambling a lot still, maybe not as much as before, however. Could also be Cobb no longer as effective and Nelson still not 100% healthy.
I did not watch the Dallas game. They also played 2 teams this year with a pass rush, Minnesota and NYG. Vikings sacked him 5 times, and he's been sacked 4 times in his other games. WE haven't been getting home with sacks, so i'm not sure how much stock i put in our game.
In any case, there's a bunch of issues; some his own, and some his aging/depleting weapons.
Rodgers seems to be sitting in the pocket for 10 seconds and he's able to scan the field and still not find someone.
It's also on him. He's not reading the field the same and his accuracy seems terrible so far.
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Didn't you say virtually the same thing about Eli last week? I was surprised as it was uncharacteristic of you..😎
And before this weekend, I believe PFF had the GB OL as the best pass blocking line in the league. From what I saw of yesterday's game, that certainly won't be changing. The GB OL is certainly not the issue this year.
On back-to-back plays yesterday, Rodgers threw low on 3rd to a wide open Montgomery(?), who managed to make the catch but due to the poor throw couldn't turn up field. 'Prime' Rodgers hits him in stride for 20+ yards there. Next throw, he had 5+ seconds to scan the field and then threw it right to Church for the easy INT.
I'm glad the Colts suck too.
He doesn't look any slower/weaker. It's just the decision making which has been questionable. He doesn't roll out when plays break down like he used to which was a huge part of how he got Cobb/Nelson in space. The play he threw a pick he could've easily rolled out for a few yards if he didn't find someone.
Also on the play where he fumbled on the goal line. He looked flustered and half heartedly ran straight and got hit which caused a fumble.
Really weird what's going on.
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the TD he had earlier this year while falling down is still the best pass I've seen this year. Which leads me to believe it's not entirely physical.
He doesn't look any slower/weaker. It's just the decision making which has been questionable. He doesn't roll out when plays break down like he used to which was a huge part of how he got Cobb/Nelson in space. The play he threw a pick he could've easily rolled out for a few yards if he didn't find someone.
Also on the play where he fumbled on the goal line. He looked flustered and half heartedly ran straight and got hit which caused a fumble.
Really weird what's going on.
The goalline play was just a bad play call and then a poor decision by AR. They clearly wanted to spread the Cowboys out and then run a QB draw, but Dallas didn't bite. Should've been audibled out of, or he should've just eaten it. Instead he tried to make something out of nothing.
I'm glad the Colts suck too.
Couldn't agree more.
watched the whole game and I agree. Dallas was not putting big time pressure on him, and when they do, he is still great at using his mobility to move out of the pocket.
In my opinion , bad pass protection was not a huge factor in his performance yesterday.
As for Dallas, that oline might win them a title.
He's in a bad slump - he missed Cobb for wide open TDs at least twice yesterday, three if you want to count the go-route he overthrew (though there was tight coverage on that play). And the pick and even fumble were ridiculous too. I'm sure he'll turn it around in the next week or two.
I hope he continues to decline, and of course yesterday was one of the few times I would root for the guy, and he shits the bed against Dallas.
Dallas is looking pretty good on O that O line is scary. Their rookie QB and rookie RB are setting rookie records and a lot of it has to do with playing behind the best line in the league. That week one win is looking pretty good right now.
Lol. "Fairly routinely attractive"
Their bread and butter play was the slant to Nelson who would beat the CB and go the distance. He is not able to do that. Cobb is not the player they thought he was and the Adams can't catch. Don't think Rodgers even wants to throw to the TE.
Sometimes I think he just wants to make the prefect throw just to show he can
You can't say that. HE was level 10 good for about 6-7 years. Now he's just good, maybe even very good, at times great, but he was ridiculously great all the time for a long time. Stats, eye test, wins and losses, they all point to a lesser player and there's no denying it.
Nothing at TE.
Decent pass catcher in Starks out of the backfield but that's it and the guy is always banged up.
He doesn't have even one explosive player. Rodgers is not the problem. They will add some speed and a guy or 2 who can get open and he'll be back to MVP type numbers. It isn't over for him as an elite player. Not close. 5 more years at least.
Lol. "Fairly routinely attractive"
Didn't mean that as a slight. Can't say I'm in the loop as far as America's B-listers, but my understanding was that her appeal was girl-next-door type. If you see knockout, to each his own...
Playing QB in the NFL is not easy.
I was at the game yesterday, and one thing I have started doing is reading the game threads because you miss things going on when there and don't have any commentary. I was amazed at the bashing of Eli on every pass that wasn't a positive. Equally, amazed at the people in the stands saying Eli is washed up, this and that......
You aren't going 25-30, where the 5 incompletes are drops.
There are going to be bad throws, reads, and errors.
It's a matchup advantage problem now?
Then why is he missing badly on so many throws? He is putting balls in the dirt and forcing his receivers to adjust to balls thrown behind them. Sure, guys need to make plays, but he is missing throws that he has made countless times and is showing visible frustration at it.
everyone in the league is questioning
what's wrong with Aaron Rodgers
the real question is
why is did the Giants lose to Green Bay
The announcers got on the QB for that throw? That's ridiculous. He wasn't open before he threw the ball.
A throw is a little low and Aikman was ready with some nonsense about Rodgers having an accuracy issue.
HE elevated James Jones to BBI legend. Now we're being told Cobb can't play and Jordy isn't the same player. Where is James Jones anyway?
Rodgers has been slipping the last two seasons and it's getting worse unless you think the talent on GB this season is 2X worse than last season.
The announcers got on the QB for that throw? That's ridiculous. He wasn't open before he threw the ball.
Aikman got on Rodgers for the Cobb miss for not throwing it to the sideline sooner. Said something like "normally Rodgers would've recognized that play immediately and looked Cobb's direction sooner". But by the time Rodgers finally did look Cobb's direction, there was no way to fit the ball between Cobb and the sideline and he had to throw it further up field. Also had some pressure by then and the pass was too far.
The Church INT and the play right before were not typical Rodgers though. He had all day on the Church INT and the throw was no where near the WR. The prior play, he had good protection and a WR (Montgomery?) open across the middle. If he hit him in stride, as we've come to expect with Rodgers, it's a 20+ yard gain. Instead, it was a low throw and the WR had to make a finger tip grab just to pick up the first.
OK, I'll keep playing. Sailing the ball WAY OVER the head of an UNCOVERED Randall Cobb in the end zone was due to Cobb not being that good. OK. Got it.
Here is what will happen;
1. They develop Montgomery into a much larger role and he's the best weapon on the team.
2. TE Cook come back and starts catching 5 passes a game.
Rodgers is back to elite and some how solves the accuracy problem.
The announcers got on the QB for that throw? That's ridiculous. He wasn't open before he threw the ball.
I dont think that was the throw people are referring too. I know the one you were talking about that was almost a great play, not Rodgers fault.
The throw to Cobb was the one in the end zone where he was wide open and AR overthrew him badly. It was a bad miss that should have been an easy TD.
Yeah the one you commented on COULD have been a TD, but it would have been a great play. That was far from a gimmee. The other one was a bad, bad miss.
Aaron Rodgers, quarterback, Green Bay. There’s something amiss with Rodgers. Anyone who watches football can see. Case in point: Third quarter Sunday against Dallas, Green Bay had the ball twice, reached Cowboys territory on both drives, and Rodgers coughed it up with bad turnovers both times. First he threw an pass behind his man that safety Barry Church picked off; then, at the Dallas one-yard line, late in the quarter, he ran a quarterback draw and had the ball stripped. Dallas led by 14 at the time of the second giveaway by Rodgers, and Dallas won by 14. These are the kinds of games Green Bay has won for years during the Rodgers era, the slugfests with NFC peers. They’re not going to win many now unless Rodgers raises his game, and fast.
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I mean, it's obvious to most people watching that he hasn't been himself.
I mean, it's obvious to most people watching that he hasn't been himself.
Same issue people took with saying "Eli's the greatest QB in team history, but has played poorly for 3 straight games" last week.
Instead, it is just an overall decline in his production. For example, on passes thrown 1-to-20 yards during 2008 to 2014, Rodgers completed 66.1 percent of his passes. Since the start of 2015 that has dropped to 56.6 percent. On passes 21 or more yards his completion percentage has dropped from 41.1 to 25.7 percent. Only passes thrown behind the line of scrimmage have remained unfazed (81.9 to 82.7 percent).
But don’t blame the receivers. The game charters at Pro Football Focus found Rodgers targeted Nelson 571 times with 437 catchable balls (76.5 percent) from 2008 to 2014 but just 28 of Nelson’s 46 targets (60.9 percent) this year are deemed catchable. Randall Cobb, his other main receiver, has seen a similar decline.
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The other Cobb miss no one is talking about is the one where he got behind the safety and Rodgers underthrew it pretty badly allowing the defender to knock it down at the last second. Vintage Rodgers hits Cobb in stride. That was earlier in the 2nd quarter than the one he sailed a few drives later.
No he wasn't. Rodgers was an MVP player at his peak. He was otherworldly.
I kid, I kid
... but it seems they've been together since April 2014 ... which is the split at which Rodgers' passing percentage takes a dive.
Dude is happy = the edge is off = aging a bit = drop in productivity.
It's not exactly new math, or even a crazy thought.
The throw to Cobb up the sideline is not one he usually connects on. The throw wasn't bad at all. He threw to an open space. Just missed it.
On the one throw when Cobb had a step was a decent throw too. It wasnt behind the WR. It just wasn't perfect. The Dallas DB Jones is one of the best athletes to ever play in the NFL. He recovered on a a much slower man (Cobb) and jumped to knock it away.
So...theatrics aside... it was a badly underthrown ball, Cobb basically had to stop his route which allowed Jones to catch up and deflect it. Should have been a touchdown, Cobb got behind the defense.
Cobb is a 4.6 guy at this point.
BBI said that? Who is he, by the way? I hear a lot about what BBI says.
Seen it versus the Giants after the first drive, and all day yesterday versus the Cowboys.
Could be a variety of factors, but AR was throwing the hell out of ball with uncanny accuracy and velocity.
That's not happening right now, or at least not at the level of previous years.
Like I have said, great players have bad (or in this case) off years..........relatively speaking.