NGT: What's wrong with Aaron Rodgers?

That was not a miss. He was rolling left. And cobb was running toward the sideline. Rodgers threw it to a spot to get him open. After he threw the ball Cobb turned up the field and couldn't get the ball. If he turned up field sooner he may have caught it.

The announcers got on the QB for that throw? That's ridiculous. He wasn't open before he threw the ball.

he was fumbling like Dave Krieg yesterday.

But it's being overplayed. Aikman and the announcer yesterday had that in the agenda. He had a 68% completion at the point when they were pointing out his accuracy issues in the game.

A throw is a little low and Aikman was ready with some nonsense about Rodgers having an accuracy issue.

I watch the guy miss open WR all season long. He's LAST in completion %. GEt that? Last. His teams aren't scoring points. Again, he's missing wide open WRs. You're stretching the lack of talent. Yes he doesn't have the same class of talent but's still got talent to work with that many QBs would be glad to have. His OL, RBs and WRs are adequate even if not stellar. Rodgers could bounce back but as of now he's slipped.

LOL. Yeah that's the reason for the decline of this player.

even if last year was a step below his normal standards, yes, he was better last year than he is this year thus far.

HE elevated James Jones to BBI legend. Now we're being told Cobb can't play and Jordy isn't the same player. Where is James Jones anyway?

Rodgers has been slipping the last two seasons and it's getting worse unless you think the talent on GB this season is 2X worse than last season.

Rodgers would miss a guy 3-4 times a month at his peak. Now he's missing guys 1-2 times a drive.

In comment 13177964 KWALL2 said:

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That was not a miss. He was rolling left. And cobb was running toward the sideline. Rodgers threw it to a spot to get him open. After he threw the ball Cobb turned up the field and couldn't get the ball. If he turned up field sooner he may have caught it. The announcers got on the QB for that throw? That's ridiculous. He wasn't open before he threw the ball.

Aikman got on Rodgers for the Cobb miss for not throwing it to the sideline sooner. Said something like "normally Rodgers would've recognized that play immediately and looked Cobb's direction sooner". But by the time Rodgers finally did look Cobb's direction, there was no way to fit the ball between Cobb and the sideline and he had to throw it further up field. Also had some pressure by then and the pass was too far.

The Church INT and the play right before were not typical Rodgers though. He had all day on the Church INT and the throw was no where near the WR. The prior play, he had good protection and a WR (Montgomery?) open across the middle. If he hit him in stride, as we've come to expect with Rodgers, it's a 20+ yard gain. Instead, it was a low throw and the WR had to make a finger tip grab just to pick up the first.

In comment 13177973 KWALL2 said:

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LOL. Yeah that's the reason for the decline of this player.

OK, I'll keep playing. Sailing the ball WAY OVER the head of an UNCOVERED Randall Cobb in the end zone was due to Cobb not being that good. OK. Got it.

Just somehow lost it? Is that it? Ok sure. Well check back on this one in a year and see how it looks with a larger sample.

Here is what will happen;

1. They develop Montgomery into a much larger role and he's the best weapon on the team.
2. TE Cook come back and starts catching 5 passes a game.

Rodgers is back to elite and some how solves the accuracy problem.

In comment 13177964 KWALL2 said:

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That was not a miss. He was rolling left. And cobb was running toward the sideline. Rodgers threw it to a spot to get him open. After he threw the ball Cobb turned up the field and couldn't get the ball. If he turned up field sooner he may have caught it. The announcers got on the QB for that throw? That's ridiculous. He wasn't open before he threw the ball.

I dont think that was the throw people are referring too. I know the one you were talking about that was almost a great play, not Rodgers fault.

The throw to Cobb was the one in the end zone where he was wide open and AR overthrew him badly. It was a bad miss that should have been an easy TD.

but I thought his receivers got little to no separation in the Giants game, but he was putting the ball in the right spots.

was greatly overrated when his context was favorable.

Somebody posted he missed Conb twice for TDs. I'm sure that was one. And the announcers mentioned accuracy issue and used that throw as an example.

In comment 13178062 KWALL2 said:

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Somebody posted he missed Conb twice for TDs. I'm sure that was one. And the announcers mentioned accuracy issue and used that throw as an example.

Yeah the one you commented on COULD have been a TD, but it would have been a great play. That was far from a gimmee. The other one was a bad, bad miss.

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Aaron Rodgers, quarterback, Green Bay. There’s something amiss with Rodgers. Anyone who watches football can see. Case in point: Third quarter Sunday against Dallas, Green Bay had the ball twice, reached Cowboys territory on both drives, and Rodgers coughed it up with bad turnovers both times. First he threw an pass behind his man that safety Barry Church picked off; then, at the Dallas one-yard line, late in the quarter, he ran a quarterback draw and had the ball stripped. Dallas led by 14 at the time of the second giveaway by Rodgers, and Dallas won by 14. These are the kinds of games Green Bay has won for years during the Rodgers era, the slugfests with NFC peers. They’re not going to win many now unless Rodgers raises his game, and fast.

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as one that "Rodgers usually connects on" (paraphrasing), not as an "easy" play that was missed a la the other potential Cobb TD. And they're right, Rodgers does usually hit on that play and that's part of what made him special.

"Aaron Rodgers is an outstanding quarterback, but he hasn't been playing well lately."

I mean, it's obvious to most people watching that he hasn't been himself.

In comment 13178076 Mr. Bungle said:

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"Aaron Rodgers is an outstanding quarterback, but he hasn't been playing well lately." I mean, it's obvious to most people watching that he hasn't been himself.

Same issue people took with saying "Eli's the greatest QB in team history, but has played poorly for 3 straight games" last week.

But to me, this is just another reason to love Eli Manning.

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Through six weeks, Rodgers has completed 60.2 percent of his passes. That places him 25th among 31 qualifying quarterbacks — he was dead last heading into Week 6 action — and continues a trend that started last season, when Rodgers’ completion percentage dipped below 61 percent for the first time since he became a starter in 2008. But that decline was attributed to losing star receiver Jordy Nelson. Now that Nelson has returned, Rodgers is slightly worse.

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Dropped passes are not the problem. Rodgers’s receivers have dropped seven passes this season, among the lowest experienced by any passer this season. And after you adjust for dropped passes, throwaways, spiked balls, batted passes and passes where the quarterback was hit while they threw the ball, Rodgers still ranks 25th in accuracy. Instead, it is just an overall decline in his production. For example, on passes thrown 1-to-20 yards during 2008 to 2014, Rodgers completed 66.1 percent of his passes. Since the start of 2015 that has dropped to 56.6 percent. On passes 21 or more yards his completion percentage has dropped from 41.1 to 25.7 percent. Only passes thrown behind the line of scrimmage have remained unfazed (81.9 to 82.7 percent). But don’t blame the receivers. The game charters at Pro Football Focus found Rodgers targeted Nelson 571 times with 437 catchable balls (76.5 percent) from 2008 to 2014 but just 28 of Nelson’s 46 targets (60.9 percent) this year are deemed catchable. Randall Cobb, his other main receiver, has seen a similar decline.

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the one he sailed over Cobb was the toughest of the 3 imo, but we're talking about Aaron Rodgers here -- up against those standards he set for himself, I'm surprised he's playing this poorly.

The other Cobb miss no one is talking about is the one where he got behind the safety and Rodgers underthrew it pretty badly allowing the defender to knock it down at the last second. Vintage Rodgers hits Cobb in stride. That was earlier in the 2nd quarter than the one he sailed a few drives later.

In comment 13178049 oldog said:

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was greatly overrated when his context was favorable.

No he wasn't. Rodgers was an MVP player at his peak. He was otherworldly.

for a 2nd?

I kid, I kid

mention a fumble when he was hit on the arm? Really? Something is amiss with this logic. That is all.

... but it seems they've been together since April 2014 ... which is the split at which Rodgers' passing percentage takes a dive.

Dude is happy = the edge is off = aging a bit = drop in productivity.

It's not exactly new math, or even a crazy thought.

That's more announcer BS. They were ripping the guy for his accuracy at that point while mentioning he was at 68% for the game. And didn't mention the drops.

The throw to Cobb up the sideline is not one he usually connects on. The throw wasn't bad at all. He threw to an open space. Just missed it.

On the one throw when Cobb had a step was a decent throw too. It wasnt behind the WR. It just wasn't perfect. The Dallas DB Jones is one of the best athletes to ever play in the NFL. He recovered on a a much slower man (Cobb) and jumped to knock it away.

"much slower Cobb" One guy runs a 4.45 then other a 4.35

So...theatrics aside... it was a badly underthrown ball, Cobb basically had to stop his route which allowed Jones to catch up and deflect it. Should have been a touchdown, Cobb got behind the defense.

He's not very fast. Jones is a sick athlete on another level. This is the guy that jumped like 45" and broke the world record in the broad jump.

Cobb is a 4.6 guy at this point.

boo their team? Not according to BBI only Giant fans boo their team.

In comment 13178224 Bubba said:

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boo their team? Not according to BBI only Giant fans boo their team.

BBI said that? Who is he, by the way? I hear a lot about what BBI says.

you can see it.

Seen it versus the Giants after the first drive, and all day yesterday versus the Cowboys.

Could be a variety of factors, but AR was throwing the hell out of ball with uncanny accuracy and velocity.

That's not happening right now, or at least not at the level of previous years.

Like I have said, great players have bad (or in this case) off years..........relatively speaking.