I agree with him that OBJ is making it all about him and it's going to bite the Giants someday.
An old coach of mine once said "Act like you've been there before." I think that sentiment is lost on players today as everyone tries for their "Twitter" or "YouTube" moment.
I know a lot of you will disagree with me on this but I cringed watching him after both TDs yesterday. It was awkwardly painful to watch and just really made him look like a fool. Same thing with Cruz after a 1st down. Just get back to the huddle and do it again.
We finally have one the best players in the league and I can't believe so many people want nothing more than to find a reason to complain.
He does need to stop the penalties, but otherwise, I don't care how he celebrates within the rules of the league.
Belichick said it best in his Football Life special, you work so hard all off-season, all during training camp, in all the pre-season games, all week long in practice, when you get in the end zone you should celebrate.
I don't like OBJ removing his helmet or the corny shit with the kicking net, but who cares about the other shit.
So Cruz pointed that he got a first down. OBJ did a triple jump. I hope I see 20 more Triple Jumps this season from him.
With the second, I think there's something wrong with the rule. He wasn't in the field of play, never came back in bounds, play was dead, why should that be a foul? I didn't think there was anything actually wrong with that at all. Nothing.
We finally have one the best players in the league and I can't believe so many people want nothing more than to find a reason to complain.
Maybe because someday it's going to cost us? Or maybe he's going to injure himself during a celebration stunt. Or maybe it would be nice to see a professional athlete act professional and succeed with class.
Same goes for Odell.
I get wanting to avoid taunting and banning (basically) all celebrations means theirs no interpretation for the refs to decide if a player is taunting vs celebrating, but flagging this (harmless) stuff just ruins the game. Washington got an unsportsmanlike penalty because Davis? did a finger roll using the goalposts (probably can't elevate enough anymore to dunk it). What purpose does flagging that serve?
I don't like OBJ removing his helmet or the corny shit with the kicking net, but who cares about the other shit.
So Cruz pointed that he got a first down. OBJ did a triple jump. I hope I see 20 more Triple Jumps this season from him.
Yes I'm old school in that I have more respect for players who aren't all about "me me me". If that bothers you about me than so be it.
2. His way of celebrating WITHOUT getting a flag since he's on the sideline. Let the kid enjoy himself after a game like that. And he draws flags/fines for sneezing on the field, so what else do you want him to do?
I hope this (and Eli getting old) doesn't drive him out of NY.
Doomster : 1:27 pm : link : reply
Has OBj given the net a ring yet? It looks like they are ready to get to the next level....
OBJ said himself that things are getting serious in yesterday's post game press conference. Some here might want to trade him because of that now.
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I don't like OBJ removing his helmet or the corny shit with the kicking net, but who cares about the other shit.
So Cruz pointed that he got a first down. OBJ did a triple jump. I hope I see 20 more Triple Jumps this season from him.
Yes I'm old school in that I have more respect for players who aren't all about "me me me". If that bothers you about me than so be it.
You don't have to be old school to recognize how Larry Fitzgerald still handles himself. Jerry Rice, Barry Sanders, Walter Peyton, etc would never cost their team a 15 yard penalty b/c they had to, must, celebrate themselves.
I'm old school myself, but OBJ is an exceptional talent and entertainer.....I mean, that game yesterday was one of the best ones I attended and OBJ had much to do with it.
He needs to clean it up a tad, and I'm willing to work with the guy instead of beating him down............
With the second, I think there's something wrong with the rule. He wasn't in the field of play, never came back in bounds, play was dead, why should that be a foul? I didn't think there was anything actually wrong with that at all. Nothing.
Blandino highlights it on his twitter, you can't remove your helmet in celebration or confrontation. Plus he said Beckham yelled at the official as he ran past him, depending what was said, either could have been flagged. just relaying the message from head of officiating, who confirmed proper call, not defending it.
I hope this (and Eli getting old) doesn't drive him out of NY.
They're only harmless until they either cause a penalty that costs us a game or he hurts himself celebrating.
Yes I'm old school in that I have more respect for players who aren't all about "me me me". If that bothers you about me than so be it.
Celebrating doesn't make him "me me me". He was one of the first players to congratulate Cruz when he scored his first TD this year.
But by all means celebrate the shit out of a 66 yard TD on a 4th and 1 to take a lead.
These guys are not members of the military, student athletes playing a cream puff. They are paid to play a game and if you don't want OBJ to celebrate keep him out of the endzone.
I dont mind the having fun and all..i could care less..but i do care when it effects the team with foolish penalties..or esp if/when it effects an outcome of a game.
Just do it on the sideline if he feels the need..he'll be seen as he's a camera draw.
Mike knows sports but he doesn't know the locker room dynamic or how to properly handle pro athlete egos. He thinks he knows, but he doesn't and worse, he doesn't know WTF the Giants are or aren't doing behind closed doors.
LAstly, Beckham needs to stop with the penalties but the sideline antics are so fucking overstated it's not even funny anymore. Mike makes is sound like Beckham is kicking puppies on the sidelines. OMG the horror he's trying to be funny with the net!! Who the fuck cares! It doesn't matter.
Noise noise noise.
Now, its like a big FU to the people who get mad at it.
I stopped caring about this stuff. As long as he isn't committing crimes he can do whatever he wants.
I don't like OBJ removing his helmet or the corny shit with the kicking net, but who cares about the other shit.
So Cruz pointed that he got a first down. OBJ did a triple jump. I hope I see 20 more Triple Jumps this season from him.
I'm an "old school guy" and have no problem with anything OBJ does on the sideline (e.g. Kicking net), nor the triple jump after scoring.
I am, however, concerned about pointing at the opponent (1st TD - pointing at Weddell), carry the ball in one hand the last 20 yards on and taking his helmet off after the 2nd TD.
Defensive players love taking shots on a guy they believe rubs their nose in it (TO, Ocho Cinco) and OBJ is doing that while in the field of play. If he played for the Eagles, 'Skins, or Dallas we would hate him for this stuff.
My worry is, a dirty team like the Rams is going to try to take him out of the game with some cheap shots and justify it by "how he acted."
Great talent - all time top 10 Giant ...let's go win a championship and he can bring his kicking net to the parade in NYC.
I'm old school myself, but OBJ is an exceptional talent and entertainer.
So OBJ is an entertainer lol. I must have missed the dance contest at the combine.
Nice response.
Would you be saying the same thing had the 15 yard penalty been a factor in us losing?
Must be why Sidney Crosby doesn't break dance on skates with the Stanley Cup.
Not a fan of the antics but something great happened via OBJ yesterday, and skipping that to tell everyone to get off your lawn makes you a dumb cunt.
Haha seriously. I think Odell has had some poor moments, but it kills me that people expect these athletes to be well-behaved. I actually don't even think that all these guys are the type to sit on their hands. The same people saying Odell should just run back to the huddle or sideline are the same people losing their minds when they watch the game. If you guys can watch the whole game composed and in relative silence, then go ahead and complain. I read a lot of "shut up and play" but a lot of youl cant even "shut up and watch".
Not a fan of the antics but something great happened via OBJ yesterday, and skipping that to tell everyone to get off your lawn makes you a dumb cunt.
Thanks Randy. Nice post.
So we can't be elated with the result of his on field play without having a discussion about other things in the background?
His play was unreal
This^^^
He seems really immature. But he also seems to have grown some over the past few weeks and we should hope it continues.
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Yes I'm old school in that I have more respect for players who aren't all about "me me me". If that bothers you about me than so be it.
Celebrating doesn't make him "me me me". He was one of the first players to congratulate Cruz when he scored his first TD this year.
By pretending to tale a picture in a choreographed routine that 99% of the time gets called for a penalty. By some miracle, we got away with that one...
LT was known to dance around and celebrate from time to time too, you know.
Is OBJ sticking his body in front of the film projector and preventing the team from seeing the presentation during film study? Maybe he's screaming out loud in the huddle causing guys to miss the play call...
Distraction from what??
He's distracting Mike and some fans.
Is OBJ sticking his body in front of the film projector and preventing the team from seeing the presentation during film study? Maybe he's screaming out loud in the huddle causing guys to miss the play call...
Distraction from what??
He's distracting Mike and some fans.
He's a distraction from an otherwise impotent offense.
People love the drama. When you don't win I guess the antics fill the void. Does Tom Brady get that 15 yard penalty?
No he's talking about the 50s
he needs to recognize that there is a magnifying glass on his actions and err on the side of caution before punching, trash talking or excessively celebrating in a way that is going to get flagged.
but I never want to see him lose his energy, passion and intensity not to mention his world class quicks and speed.
A 23 year old man gets paid $2.5 million a year to play a game, and people are upset that he's having fun?
It' noise. The only think BEckham needs to do is stop taking the personal fouls. The crap on the sidelines is nothing.
Mike is out of line here. He's mad that everyone talks about Beckham's antics yet he's doing the same thing.
Yep....... GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!
He is good to his teamates.
He's not following Eli around and hounding him publicly.
He is an extrovert. The fire translates to the field.
I'll take it. To me it's 80% good and 20% bad. Can you imagine how LT would be treated in this day of social media?
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Probably true. He's worth some wins
I do believe the Giants did win four Super Bowls b/c a stout defense though.
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Probably true. He's worth some wins
I do believe the Giants did win four Super Bowls b/c a stout defense though.
Did players not dance in the 70s? 80s?
I guess I imagined the Icky Shuffle.
Did players not dance in the 70s? 80s?
I guess I imagined the Icky Shuffle.
With the second, I think there's something wrong with the rule. He wasn't in the field of play, never came back in bounds, play was dead, why should that be a foul? I didn't think there was anything actually wrong with that at all. Nothing.
Blandino highlights it on his twitter, you can't remove your helmet in celebration or confrontation. Plus he said Beckham yelled at the official as he ran past him, depending what was said, either could have been flagged. just relaying the message from head of officiating, who confirmed proper call, not defending it.
No criticism of anyone here.
Blandino has never done anything but support the refs. So who cares what he thinks? Guy is the ultimate yes man. Hard to understand the purpose of his job if the refs are always right. Other than to party with the Cowboys. NFL central is all about appearances and nothing about anything that matters.
Reason for celebrations at mininum in "old days" was it was handled by their peers on the field when hitting was allowed without consequences. But its new times and hey adapt to changes...i could care less what obj does until it effects the team on the field..costly penalties. Just have fun..but be smart in process..refs are crooked anyways
So what do you propose their mike? Should the Giants cut him? Fine him? They have. Should they cut the best WR of this era all because he's wacky on the sidelines? No.
McAdoo comes out every fucking week and says they talked to BEckham. But in Mike's world the Giants are having BEckham parties every night and feeding his ego with hershey kisses and accolades.
So what do you propose their mike? Should the Giants cut him? Fine him? They have. Should they cut the best WR of this era all because he's wacky on the sidelines? No.
McAdoo comes out every fucking week and says they talked to BEckham. But in Mike's world the Giants are having BEckham parties every night and feeding his ego with hershey kisses and accolades.
OBJ is in a no win situation. No matter WHAT he does, someone will take issue with it. He should have known better about the helmet, but I have no problem with the rest of it.
Had the penalty cost the Giants the game, people could then blame the coach.
I'm glad you mention him. I feel the same way about OBJ as I do TO. And that's both men are unfairly scrutinized. TO didn't kill anyone, rape anyway, beat children with a tree branch, beat women, throw women, drive drunk, pop pills, take drugs, get into night club altercations, bar altercations...I could go on because the amount of law breaking in the NFL is endless. Yet, he, much like OBJ presently, is treated and scrutinized as if he is worse than all those other players who actually did do those things. It's stupid and lame.
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With the second, I think there's something wrong with the rule. He wasn't in the field of play, never came back in bounds, play was dead, why should that be a foul? I didn't think there was anything actually wrong with that at all. Nothing.
Blandino highlights it on his twitter, you can't remove your helmet in celebration or confrontation. Plus he said Beckham yelled at the official as he ran past him, depending what was said, either could have been flagged. just relaying the message from head of officiating, who confirmed proper call, not defending it.
No criticism of anyone here.
Blandino has never done anything but support the refs. So who cares what he thinks? Guy is the ultimate yes man. Hard to understand the purpose of his job if the refs are always right. Other than to party with the Cowboys. NFL central is all about appearances and nothing about anything that matters.
I know, but he did provide an explanation of the penalty and he's the guy that runs the conference calls with the refs highlighting the mistakes and what to look for. Rather than being solely a yes man, I think he influences things.
Now it's a "bit", and it's worn out.
When he got that penalty, you can no longer talk about it as "harmless." That was a major detriment to the team at the worst possible time.
You think anyone would be talking about his 66 yard td if Baltimore scores? No, they would be talking about his penalty that put them in a better spot to succeed.
Also, not that it matters but I am 29. Still love I LOVE BECKHAM. He is so god damn good. He just has to cut the shit. And in my opinion, he did absolutely nothing wrong until that flag came out. That is where the line was crossed.
Nothing he can say postgame or this week or whenever can ever replace the actions that put his team in a vulnerable spot.
He also hurts his team by taking stupid personal foul penalties.
Count me in with those tired of his antics.
He also hurts his team by taking stupid personal foul penalties.
Count me in with those tired of his antics.
Blandino highlights it on his twitter, you can't remove your helmet in celebration or confrontation.
The rule is specific - it's illegal when you're on the field. Beckham was no longer on the field of play.
He also hurts his team by taking stupid personal foul penalties.
Count me in with those tired of his antics.
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with what he is doing with the net. Hew needs to get over that already and grow the fuck up.
He also hurts his team by taking stupid personal foul penalties.
Count me in with those tired of his antics.
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Anytime anyone takes their helmet off in celebration, it is ALWAYS called. That is day one shit, no need for that. You could tell he even thought about it, he ripped his chinstrap off, double clutched when he was taking his helmet off, and did it anyway.
That shouldn't be a serious defense for him. He was one step out of the end zone. He needs to be more aware right there.
OMG, LT, Banks, Carson etc. would have been all over him if cost them 15 yards that late in the game...
If they're not going to abide by the criteria of the rule, then eliminate those criteria.
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Yes, apparently BBI site can handle all of these OBJ threads...
Simms, it's not about not letting him have fun. It's about having maturity and awareness that what he is doing could potentially cost the team someday (or cost him an injury).
How good?
He so good he kicks the opponents ass AND all the whiny Giants fans at the same time.
Where was the outrage when Cruz was a dancing sensation, or Mike Strahan was a muscle man, or when ... every player celebrates?
Or is this about him taking off his helmet in a way that is clearly not prohibited in the rules?
The net thing is silly but harmless. The helmet rule is what it is, but he should know that rule. But it sucks that this is what people are talking about.
He had a transcendent football game. Stuff of legend. Without the extra crap, people would focus just on his play. So part of it is on him.
But all that aside, Mike is a cranky old fuck
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Greg from LI said:
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Blandino highlights it on his twitter, you can't remove your helmet in celebration or confrontation.
The rule is specific - it's illegal when you're on the field. Beckham was no longer on the field of play.
He also hurts his team by taking stupid personal foul penalties.
Count me in with those tired of his antics.
Well, aren't we lucky that OBJ actually helps this team with his incredible performance far far more than he hurts this team. But hey, one day...and I mean...one day...he'll hurt us.
For every one time he's hurt this team, he's also lifted this team 5-10 times.
As far as the net thing goes, it's silly, but it's become a source of entertainment for his fans. You don't have to enjoy it, but I know a lot of people have found it to be quite entertaining.
And if you think NFL is anything more than part of the entertainment industry, you're taking football way way way too seriously.
When he got that penalty, you can no longer talk about it as "harmless." That was a major detriment to the team at the worst possible time.
You think anyone would be talking about his 66 yard td if Baltimore scores? No, they would be talking about his penalty that put them in a better spot to succeed.
Also, not that it matters but I am 29. Still love I LOVE BECKHAM. He is so god damn good. He just has to cut the shit. And in my opinion, he did absolutely nothing wrong until that flag came out. That is where the line was crossed.
Nothing he can say postgame or this week or whenever can ever replace the actions that put his team in a vulnerable spot.
Lets all be realistic. The penalty was effectively 7 yards and 5 seconds off the clock. If OBJ does not get the penalty, the most likely outcome of the Brown kickoff is a touchback (every previous kickoff resulted in a touchback). Baltimore then starts at the 25 and no time comes off the clock. Instead, Baltimore returns the kickoff to the 32 and takes 5 seconds off the clock.
Forgive me for being crazy, but is it too much to ask the Giants defense, the one on which the organization spent $200+ million this offseason, to keep Baltimore from going 68 yards in 1:24 for the winning TD? Spare me the "Odell almost cost the Giants the game" sobfest.
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Blandino highlights it on his twitter, you can't remove your helmet in celebration or confrontation.
The rule is specific - it's illegal when you're on the field. Beckham was no longer on the field of play.
Don't know, check out his twitter explanation like I said not defending it.
He made no mention of the NFL helmet removal rule by name, he said it was unsportsmanlike because you cannot remove your helmet in times of celebration or confrontation - he said nothing about being in the field of play. not sure that's the same thing?
In either case he also said Beckham yelled something at the ref as he ran past him and could have been flagged for either.
like many of the NFL's rules this is probably inconsistently enforced and ambiguously written.
It's also possible he doesn't know the rules.
If they're not going to abide by the criteria of the rule, then eliminate those criteria.
Stop it Greg. OBJ needs a lesson. And that lesson is he needs start following rules that don't exist and mind read when refs want to enforce them.
The team pays you millions of dollars to catch a ball. Don't act like you did something extraordinary.
SethFromAstoria : 1:39 pm
There is a man on the radio talking about Beckham. He is discussing the "antics" like they are more important than the game....and then is asking why we are discussing it like its more important than the game....
its a social science experiment.
Is there anyone from the media here on this site? Perhaps you can explain why the people obsessing about everything besides the insane football performance are asking why that very thing is happening. THere is this whole collection of people who's job it is to report on sporting events and who don't grasp this simple idea that THEY CREATE THE NEWS and they can either talk about the phenomenal WR or they can talk about the stuff no one cares about.
These people are idiots and I have to get some explanation. Is there anyone here willing to defend the idiocy that can explain it?
Baseball is over, nobody cares about hockey, basketball hasn't started
jlukes : 1:53 pm : link : reply
and the Jets play tonight.
What the hell else do you expect them to talk about today?
When is Ira from Staten Island calling?
Drewcon40 : 1:55 pm : link : reply
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Did Ray Catina call da pope?
micky : 1:55 pm : link : reply
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Because they know they have to fill hours of talk
Mason : 1:56 pm : link : reply
Sports radio is the cheapest form of entertainment. It takes no creativity. Similar to the old business model of quick start up companies. It's like opening a gas station and liquor store on the same block. No creativity but it gets you quick cash.
Mike is right on point
ThatLimerickGuy : 2:02 pm : link : reply
How many weeks in a row can a team afford to have a player gifting away 15 yards in critical situations? He gets an unsportsmanlike penalty called against him EVERY WEEK.
I don't care about the net and I don't care about ANYTHING he does on the sideline outside of the realm of getting penalized. Do your commercials, do your 3 minute handshakes - I don't care.
Beckham has the chance to be a once in a generation talent but the team does have no idea how to handle him.
Think about the long term effects of allowing a player to operate outside of the rules set for the other 52 guys.
Football is a team game. When one player acts above the team you have a recipe for disaster.
lol - just couldn't
Giants2012 : 2:03 pm : link : reply
put this in the other thread
RE: Did Ray Catina call da pope?
drkenneth : 2:03 pm : link : reply
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It's "Ray Catener"
I think a lot of the critics of Beckham's antics lack perspective
PetesHereNow : 2:06 pm : link : reply
Think about it like this:
You reach the pinnacle of your sport, after literally years of hard work from high school football, to high level NCAA D1 football, to NFL superstar status.
It's already been proven that you wear your emotions on your sleeve. They've even gotten the best of you on the field leading to a one-game suspension last year, and harming your team in the process. You've been criticized in the media fairly heavily. They've questioned you, called you a distraction, etc. etc. Now, you know the refs have an extra attentive eye on you.
Fast forward to yesterday, your team is down 23-20, less than 2 minutes to play. Your team is down primarily on the back of one of the worst pass interference calls ever seen. 4th and 1, an incomplete pass or a sack means certain defeat, a 2-4 record and another week of questions about a 4 game losing streak. You catch a little slant pass, first down, see your opening, keep running, cut left, you realize you're going to score. 70,000+ people on their feet cheering. You've done it. You've saved your team from the jaws of defeat. Isn't there a little part of you that wants to take your helmet off and say, "look at me now, you SOB's?"
Was it the wrong thing to do in the context of the rules? Sure, probably. But ultimately, it cost the team 6-7 yards. He probably won't do it again until he gets to the sidelines. He probably just reacted and didn't think about it. If he did think about it, he probably thought that being through the back of the end zone would be okay.
The truly sad thing is without him, this is a mediocre offense that only scores 10 pts yesterday. The two most criticized guys on this offense are OBJ and Eli, and without either of them, we're looking at true mediocrity across the board.
Limerick
Millwall_Giant : 2:06 pm : link : reply
He did nothing to warrant get the 15 yard penalty yesterday. It has been proven over and over again that, as per the rules allow, he was not on the playing field when he removed his helmet.
Yes he has done plenty previously to deserve some criticism, but yesterday was not it. This is just lazy media coverage stirring stuff up.
OBJ
GeorgeAdams33 : 2:08 pm : link : reply
shouldn't change a thing. He is right on course
OMG how many
jvm52106 : 2:28 pm : link : reply
times do I have to hear he did nothing to warrant a 15 yard penalty. Yes he did.. Look up the fucking rules. You may not like the rules but it is clear, no helmet off on the field when talking to officials, celebrating etc... It absolutely is a penalty. He gets hit with a penalty every week like this. It wasn't 6 or 7 yards that it cost the team. You have no idea how the Gmen would have handled the kickoff from the 35. Either way we were stuck with kicking it off deep. What if it had been returned for a TD? Could happen any time right? Not with the way most kickoffs go now from the 35 as they generally go deep in the end zone or out of it unless intentionally kicked short.
I love the player, hate the antics that get in his way. We lack a strong veteran leader on the offense (Eli will never be the guy who grabs people by the face mask) to help curtail some of this stuff.
Many of you excused Beckham's antics against the Rams a few years ago. Then last year many people blamed Norman in that episode even though Beckham went out of his way to really escalate things and now the Vikings game and here again yesterday. Beckham needs to keep the stuff off the playing field before he gets targeted (other teams) and before his antics cost the Gmen a game...
RE: lol - just couldn't
SethFromAstoria : 2:28 pm : link : reply
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didnt sdee it. honestly.
This guy is speaking for ELi now. Honestly I'd love to just have a conversation in person with someone who can try to explain to me how they make a damn iota of sense. I'd enjoy shooting it all down so much
The team pays you millions of dollars to catch a ball. Don't act like you did something extraordinary.
They're entertainers, and entertainers do entertaining things. Whether they're doing theatrics on the field or doing outside gigs (endorsements or TV shows), they're entertainers. If they get the crowd and themselves fired up with those theatrics after a TD or after defending a pass or even after catching a first down, who gives a fuck? If those annoy you, you're taking the game way too seriously.
Does he lose it sometimes? Yep. Is he emotional? yep. Is he only 23 and already the best WR we've ever had? Absolutely. I'll take that and I'll forgive him some of his faults.
Same went for LT.
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I don't mean to pick on OBJ because I get upset with all the silly shenanigans and after play celebrations by so many of the players. It's as though the real competition is not the game as much as who has a better after play celebration. Very sad.
Now, I know many of you youngins out there won't understand the level of disgust I have for this kind of garbage and that's ok but I grew up watching the game played by mature men who would never have embarrassed their team and themselves with such childish me me me antics. Back then they wore ties to the game and all had short hair and looked like a professional team. Back then the fans and journalists would have mocked them if they tried this silly stuff.
Now they wear earrings and long hair and 40 pounds of expensive jewelry and many of the fans seem to enjoy the antics. It just makes me think how much the world has changed from the one I grew up in. So I don't really blame OBJ or any of the players who do these things. It's just a sign of the times, albeit, a sad sign for me and it reminds me how old I am.
In the meantime, hes such a stud you put up with it and try and talk him out of his jackassery.
Their RB wwas suspended for the 300044 tiMe.
I don't mean to pick on OBJ because I get upset with all the silly shenanigans and after play celebrations by so many of the players. It's as though the real competition is not the game as much as who has a better after play celebration. Very sad.
Now, I know many of you youngins out there won't understand the level of disgust I have for this kind of garbage and that's ok but I grew up watching the game played by mature men who would never have embarrassed their team and themselves with such childish me me me antics. Back then they wore ties to the game and all had short hair and looked like a professional team. Back then the fans and journalists would have mocked them if they tried this silly stuff.
Now they wear earrings and long hair and 40 pounds of expensive jewelry and many of the fans seem to enjoy the antics. It just makes me think how much the world has changed from the one I grew up in. So I don't really blame OBJ or any of the players who do these things. It's just a sign of the times, albeit, a sad sign for me and it reminds me how old I am.
Good post but be prepared for the onslaught from the gallery..."you're no fun" "get off my lawn" "down in front"
He just needs to be smarter about it.
I don't mean to pick on OBJ because I get upset with all the silly shenanigans and after play celebrations by so many of the players. It's as though the real competition is not the game as much as who has a better after play celebration. Very sad.
Now, I know many of you youngins out there won't understand the level of disgust I have for this kind of garbage and that's ok but I grew up watching the game played by mature men who would never have embarrassed their team and themselves with such childish me me me antics. Back then they wore ties to the game and all had short hair and looked like a professional team. Back then the fans and journalists would have mocked them if they tried this silly stuff.
Now they wear earrings and long hair and 40 pounds of expensive jewelry and many of the fans seem to enjoy the antics. It just makes me think how much the world has changed from the one I grew up in. So I don't really blame OBJ or any of the players who do these things. It's just a sign of the times, albeit, a sad sign for me and it reminds me how old I am.
TL:DR my era was better, because athletes are homogenized. Football was more of a "gentleman's sport" in my era.
Not only that.. but if anyone actually listened to anything he had to say afterwards, all he did was praise his QB and give him all the credit and call it a team win.
He's been under endless scrutiny and he's an emotional kid. He made the biggest play of the game and was pretty gassed up. Shouldn't have taken the helmet off but enough already. We don't win this game without him and he pretty clearly toughed it out in a game where he was pretty banged up.
Not only that.. but if anyone actually listened to anything he had to say afterwards, all he did was praise his QB and give him all the credit and call it a team win.
He's been under endless scrutiny and he's an emotional kid. He made the biggest play of the game and was pretty gassed up. Shouldn't have taken the helmet off but enough already. We don't win this game without him and he pretty clearly toughed it out in a game where he was pretty banged up.
100%
I had a problem with the over-aggression when it took him out of his game or resulted in penalties and I'd have a problem with a celebration that results in a penalty but otherwise, after a TD, do whatever the rules allow. And between the lines go 100%, but stay within the rules.
I don't care for the raucous displays after a sack or some first downs, but I am a fan of players who have emotion when they can display it in a manner not detrimental to the team.
But the guy was MUCH more amped up after we got completely fucking raped by Jeff Effin Triplette the possession prior.
I can forgive him today because we got the W.
Still hoping for less idiotic and downright weird (the net) behavior.
From what I gather, everyone acted like idiots in the 80s
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who hates any celebration
I don't like OBJ removing his helmet or the corny shit with the kicking net, but who cares about the other shit.
So Cruz pointed that he got a first down. OBJ did a triple jump. I hope I see 20 more Triple Jumps this season from him.
Yes I'm old school in that I have more respect for players who aren't all about "me me me". If that bothers you about me than so be it.
Do you realize how "me me me" you're being right now? It's all about YOUR enjoyment, YOUR respect, etc.
Everyone is "me me me" - it's a fact of life. You only ever get to experience your life, one time, as you. Get over it.
I had a problem with the over-aggression when it took him out of his game or resulted in penalties and I'd have a problem with a celebration that results in a penalty but otherwise, after a TD, do whatever the rules allow. And between the lines go 100%, but stay within the rules.
I don't care for the raucous displays after a sack or some first downs, but I am a fan of players who have emotion when they can display it in a manner not detrimental to the team.
Very well said
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who hates any celebration
I don't like OBJ removing his helmet or the corny shit with the kicking net, but who cares about the other shit.
So Cruz pointed that he got a first down. OBJ did a triple jump. I hope I see 20 more Triple Jumps this season from him.
Yes I'm old school in that I have more respect for players who aren't all about "me me me". If that bothers you about me than so be it.
Do you realize how "me me me" you're being right now? It's all about YOUR enjoyment, YOUR respect, etc.
Everyone is "me me me" - it's a fact of life. You only ever get to experience your life, one time, as you. Get over it.
Yeah well my "me me me" isn't going to get a penalty against my team.
Blame it on cocaine.
I'm in favor of saving the sport from earring wearing losers like these dopes...
I guess they all missed your post.
I recall some of our posters ripped Terell "get your popcorn ready" Owens despite his antics.
Thank goodness the passionate Mark Gastineau wasn't a Giant.
Not only that.. but if anyone actually listened to anything he had to say afterwards, all he did was praise his QB and give him all the credit and call it a team win.
He's been under endless scrutiny and he's an emotional kid. He made the biggest play of the game and was pretty gassed up. Shouldn't have taken the helmet off but enough already. We don't win this game without him and he pretty clearly toughed it out in a game where he was pretty banged up.
this is exactly right. Not to mention the amount of times the team wants to put it to bed and say they love their player more than they give a fuck about the media. And they refuse to allow that to be the end of it.
The last time I checked, high school football wasn't considered entertainment industry as much as it's scholastic/athletic activity. I mean, if you want to compare an entertainer to a student athlete, we can do that all day. But you're comparing apples to oranges.
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was the most embarrassing thing I ever saw a football player do in a celebration but there have been a lot of other whoppers from many players. It was hard to watch that with all the cameras on him. Big deal. He caught a good pass and ran to the End zone as expected of a player of his talent level and his salary. He did his extremely high paid job.
I don't mean to pick on OBJ because I get upset with all the silly shenanigans and after play celebrations by so many of the players. It's as though the real competition is not the game as much as who has a better after play celebration. Very sad.
Now, I know many of you youngins out there won't understand the level of disgust I have for this kind of garbage and that's ok but I grew up watching the game played by mature men who would never have embarrassed their team and themselves with such childish me me me antics. Back then they wore ties to the game and all had short hair and looked like a professional team. Back then the fans and journalists would have mocked them if they tried this silly stuff.
Now they wear earrings and long hair and 40 pounds of expensive jewelry and many of the fans seem to enjoy the antics. It just makes me think how much the world has changed from the one I grew up in. So I don't really blame OBJ or any of the players who do these things. It's just a sign of the times, albeit, a sad sign for me and it reminds me how old I am.
Good post but be prepared for the onslaught from the gallery..."you're no fun" "get off my lawn" "down in front"
Blah blah blah...oh no, the world is changing for the worse, and all because of us youngins. Give me a goddamn break. The world was just as fucked up when you were young, dude. Except during that time they discriminated far more...but hey, it was so much better back when you were young, huh? Get over yourselves.
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for all those defending his antics, if it were your son at a high school (or any level) game doing these shenanigans, would you sit back and laugh it off? Or would you be embarrassed for him (and you)?
The last time I checked, high school football wasn't considered entertainment industry as much as it's scholastic/athletic activity. I mean, if you want to compare an entertainer to a student athlete, we can do that all day. But you're comparing apples to oranges.
Must have taken a while to think up that zinger without answering the question
Of course we would. But that's being a fan.
Seriously, some of you people are taking football way too seriously. It's a damn entertainment. It doesn't indicate anything beyond the evolution of our sports entertainment industry. It doesn't mean our society is somehow going down the tube or whatever some of you blowhards like to believe. Your generations had just as many warts as the current generations.
No...they talked about this on TV. It would be a post-score foul like the one OBJ got after his second TD.
And I despise Beckham for that late penalty. I'm 29, hardly in the get off my lawn crowd. Have your fun ODB, but when it costs the team it's too far.
Also, for those suggesting that ODB was being targeted on that call or it shouldn't have been a penalty cause he was one step out of the end zone. LOL, get a clue. 100% a penalty every single time, no matter who does it.
Its not supposed to be - he's basically forcing the media to cover their own ridiculous story now.
its a troll job. Lebotard tried to troll the troll today. didnt happen.
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for all those defending his antics, if it were your son at a high school (or any level) game doing these shenanigans, would you sit back and laugh it off? Or would you be embarrassed for him (and you)?
The last time I checked, high school football wasn't considered entertainment industry as much as it's scholastic/athletic activity. I mean, if you want to compare an entertainer to a student athlete, we can do that all day. But you're comparing apples to oranges.
Must have taken a while to think up that zinger without answering the question
The question doesn't warrant an answer because it's a stupid question stemming from a shitty comparison.
Better question would be..."if your son played in the NFL and did what OBJ did, would you be ok with it?"
And my answer to that would be if he was enjoying the game, didn't try to injure other players (like his actions during the Carolina game last season, which we all agree was unacceptable), and stayed out of trouble off the field, then why would I care?
The question is...how deep is your love for OBJ when he scored a 66 yard TD on not such a good pass by Eli? I mean, if you despise him for that penalty, at least you have to love him for taking the short pass to the house and putting us in a potential winning position no?
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for all those defending his antics, if it were your son at a high school (or any level) game doing these shenanigans, would you sit back and laugh it off? Or would you be embarrassed for him (and you)?
The last time I checked, high school football wasn't considered entertainment industry as much as it's scholastic/athletic activity. I mean, if you want to compare an entertainer to a student athlete, we can do that all day. But you're comparing apples to oranges.
Must have taken a while to think up that zinger without answering the question
The question doesn't warrant an answer because it's a stupid question stemming from a shitty comparison.
Better question would be..."if your son played in the NFL and did what OBJ did, would you be ok with it?"
And my answer to that would be if he was enjoying the game, didn't try to injure other players (like his actions during the Carolina game last season, which we all agree was unacceptable), and stayed out of trouble off the field, then why would I care?
SO you attack someone's generation without even knowing how old someone is? Or you call names because someone has an opposing viewpoint? Classy bro.
I'd respect it much more if people were just like Go Terps and showed equal disdain or just looked at both guys as having fun out there.
Well, it is, but not because of Odell Beckham's touchdown celebrations.
Its not supposed to be - he's basically forcing the media to cover their own ridiculous story now.
its a troll job. Lebotard tried to troll the troll today. didnt happen.
I comepletely agree with you on OBJ trolling the media. It's hilarious to me they're falling for it, and there are actually guys asking him questions about it.
I also find it funny and so ironic the Pope comes on today going off on the kicking net thing and the media for covering it, yet spends two fucking hours doing the EXACT same thing.
Bold, you hitting the sauce early today....You're posting some funny shyte and busting some gnads.......
Honestly, I couldn't care less about your age or anyone else for that matter. But the moment people start posting about how good it was in the good old days and how the times have changed for the worse and all the other happy bullshit, I'll call you (and anyone else on it).
And yes, I keep it real classy.
If he was making $2.5 million, he could moon the refs for all I'd care.
I'm definitely old school and the net thing cracks me up. The helmet was over the top because of the 15 yds, but the rest, WRATGAS.
And yes before you hit me with the usual garbage line, I am happy-no, thrilled- to have OBJ on our team. I just wish he would act like a professional football player and not a prima donna.
If he was making $2.5 mill, I wouldn't care if he mooned the refs.
WRATGAS
Antonio Brown, one of the few WRs on Odell's talent level, is twerking after every TD, knowing full well that he will get a penalty and cost his team 15 yards, and I never hear a word about it in the media. This has gotten completely out of hand.
Proposing to the net was great. It takes what was an embarrassing moment for him--kicking the net--and turns it into something fun and shows he can make fun of himself
Icky Shuffle was sent to the sidelines or was a penalty while the fun bunch was disallowed or a penalty. Did Beckham get a penalty? All Beckham had to do is not take his helmet off. Apparently, that was too much to ask.
Where's the real football talk?
funny they don't mind a one "dez bryant"
Unless he can tell me that Beckham said something so horrifying that a flag was warranted, I don't buy that Beckham turning to an official and saying something could have been called. Did anyone see Atlanta's coach react after the missed PI near the end of that game? I thought he was going to burst a blood vessel. No flag there.
Is OBJ really that big of a problem? Give me a break.
giants fans cant handle having the diva wide receiver on their team, if the giants win a super bowl with him everyone who is criticizing him would then love him because the team won a super bowl...
this is the same fan base that didnt like eli because he didnt show emotion
and of course we would hate him if he was on anothet team, that is what fans do they love their player and hate opposing team players...
giants cant handle having the bad guy on their team
As far as the net thing goes, it's silly, but it's become a source of entertainment for his fans. You don't have to enjoy it, but I know a lot of people have found it to be quite entertaining.
Seriously? You know A LOT of people who find it funny? I'm curious, how many are over the age of 10?
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It doesn't mean our society is somehow going down the tube or whatever some of you blowhards like to believe.
Well, it is, but not because of Odell Beckham's touchdown celebrations.
The triple jump was a bit much and I hope he cans that
routine . But he was Clearly Off the field when he
removed his helmet .
That was a Bull Shit Call that Looks Like someone had
a lot of Money to lose on this game .
Jeff Effin Triplette should be questioned and Investigated .
Just like 9/10 human beings looking back on their lives.
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SO you attack someone's generation without even knowing how old someone is? Or you call names because someone has an opposing viewpoint? Classy bro.
Honestly, I couldn't care less about your age or anyone else for that matter. But the moment people start posting about how good it was in the good old days and how the times have changed for the worse and all the other happy bullshit, I'll call you (and anyone else on it).
And yes, I keep it real classy.
Last i check the days are current and our jackass of a receiver got a penalty b/c he broke a rule on his way to beginning his "look at me show" while other receivers haven't been flagged b/c they kept their helmets on.
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In either case he also said Beckham yelled something at the ref as he ran past him and could have been flagged for either.
Unless he can tell me that Beckham said something so horrifying that a flag was warranted, I don't buy that Beckham turning to an official and saying something could have been called. Did anyone see Atlanta's coach react after the missed PI near the end of that game? I thought he was going to burst a blood vessel. No flag there.
Like I said when I shared it, I was sharing not defending.
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SO you attack someone's generation without even knowing how old someone is? Or you call names because someone has an opposing viewpoint? Classy bro.
Honestly, I couldn't care less about your age or anyone else for that matter. But the moment people start posting about how good it was in the good old days and how the times have changed for the worse and all the other happy bullshit, I'll call you (and anyone else on it).
And yes, I keep it real classy.
Last i check the days are current and our jackass of a receiver got a penalty b/c he broke a rule on his way to beginning his "look at me show" while other receivers haven't been flagged b/c they kept their helmets on.
were you cheering for beckham when he scored the first td or the game winner?
were you cheering for beckham when he scored the first td or the game winner?
We're you laughing at his marriage proposal after being flagged?
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were you cheering for beckham when he scored the first td or the game winner?
We're you laughing at his marriage proposal after being flagged?
i ignored it, thats stuff doesnt bother me, the flag bothered me but the giants won so in the end who cares...
this stuff has been going on forever, you just hate it because he is on your team...
is your lawrence taylore your favorite player?
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were you cheering for beckham when he scored the first td or the game winner?
We're you laughing at his marriage proposal after being flagged?
i ignored it, thats stuff doesnt bother me, the flag bothered me but the giants won so in the end who cares...
this stuff has been going on forever, you just hate it because he is on your team...
is your lawrence taylore your favorite player?
So that's how it works? Had the Giants lost you would have a problem yet no problem since they won. Talk about livng for the moment. Do you live paycheck to paycheck too? No thought of the future in which the Giants could lose due to his stupidity? Let me guess, all this hoopla is just the media and paranoid fans right? Give it a rest and his name is Lawrence Taylor. Drawing any comparrison between the two is just assinine so dave the BS
Pretty asinine to dismiss the penalty and think it won't happen again and someday won't cost the Giants. His massive distraction against the Panthers last year put the team in a 35-7 hole they never climbed out of.
Anybody confusing his talent with discipline, which apparently you are, really doesn't get it. Call out the coach's comment too. You must know more than him too.
Because of Beckham.
The defense should have taken him out for a beer for covering them from criticism that week.
The flag says otherwise or can you really not tell the difference in circumstances including the score and time on the clock? Amazing
Because of Beckham.
The defense should have taken him out for a beer for covering them from criticism that week.
They lost. Ever think the Panther took the foot off the gas up 35-7 or do really think the Giants were just so awesome? When the Panthers hit the gas again, they won.
Hope Beckham old it together this week. If he doesn't, no doubt the clowns will blame the Rams and their coach.
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Than anything Odell did yesterday. But Fox and ESPN and y'all lap it up like a kitten with a saucer of milk.
The flag says otherwise or can you really not tell the difference in circumstances including the score and time on the clock? Amazing
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Than anything Odell did yesterday. But Fox and ESPN and y'all lap it up like a kitten with a saucer of milk.
The flag says otherwise or can you really not tell the difference in circumstances including the score and time on the clock? Amazing
Or maybe we wont. It's amazing to me how people can continually present opinion as fact. No one here(or any of the God like talking heads who think they're smart and important)are Beckham. No one can say how he's going to feel in the future.
And some of you guys are hilarious. The things you get worked up over! And you want Beckham to be a good little fella and mind his manners during a heated game but you can't even keep your emotions in check discussing him!
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Than anything Odell did yesterday. But Fox and ESPN and y'all lap it up like a kitten with a saucer of milk.
The flag says otherwise or can you really not tell the difference in circumstances including the score and time on the clock? Amazing
so 15 yards is only Important to you if it comes in the last minute or with that specific score? I say what's really important to you is the specific individual And being able to play pig pile on Monday morning
Need a hug or are you having a Beckham moment? All the news outlets are saying the same thing and both the coach and QB commented on it today. Dismiss it all and propose to yiur high chair for all i care. You're wrong unless you believe the coach, Qb and entire media are.
You can give him a lifetime pass if you like. Make up every excuse if it makes you feel better.
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Than anything Odell did yesterday. But Fox and ESPN and y'all lap it up like a kitten with a saucer of milk.
The flag says otherwise or can you really not tell the difference in circumstances including the score and time on the clock? Amazing
so 15 yards is only Important to you if it comes in the last minute or with that specific score? I say what's really important to you is the specific individual And being able to play pig pile on Monday morning
Need a hug or are you having a Beckham moment? All the news outlets are saying the same thing and both the coach and QB commented on it today. Dismiss it all and propose to yiur high chair for all i care. You're wrong unless you believe the coach, Qb and entire media are.
Need a hug or are you having a Beckham moment? All the news outlets are saying the same thing and both the coach and QB commented on it today. Dismiss it all and propose to yiur high chair for all i care. You're wrong unless you believe the coach, Qb and entire media are.
dont need a hug. Just need you to put down the pitch fork and maybe get some perspective. A bad call in a sea of bad calls yesterday dos not negate that we lose if not for him. But I'm betting that's a preferable outcome if only obj would not be the object of officiating exuberance.
Tell the coach and QB to put down the pitch fork. Tell the media. Make sure the dirty Rams show up with a love blanket. He's a great talent yet you people are blind that he's not acting like a diva asshole and the signs/penalties, etc are adding up. When the quiet Qb comments, the coach comments, the media is on him and the opponents clearly know to get under his skin, we might have a problem. Even the kickers net isn't as blind as some here.
and i bring up lawrence taylor because he cost his team wins and continues to embarrass the organization...
and i bring up lawrence taylor because he cost his team wins and continues to embarrass the organization...
I'm a Giants fan, of course i was cheering for him like everybody. Like most, i swore and wondered what the heck he was doing when i saw the flag and the stupid ceremony without any clue what he just did to the team. He was so self absorbed in his show about ME he didn't think it's a. TEAM.
Bring up Taylor is as dumb as the question you keep asking. His resume speaks for itself and it's obvious you have no idea what you're posting about by bringing his name up and make a connection to OBJ. It's so dumb you make Beckham's move look smart and that's close to impossible.
Taylor is loved by giants fans because he won championships and he is the biggest piece of shit on the planet..
obj is hated by a lot of giants fans because the team has not won with him as the best player..
see what i am trying to get at? the giants fans that hate obj and love lt are hypocrits...
was he thinking about himself when he did that?
Taylor is loved by giants fans because he won championships and he is the biggest piece of shit on the planet..
obj is hated by a lot of giants fans because the team has not won with him as the best player..
see what i am trying to get at? the giants fans that hate obj and love lt are hypocrits...
You're an idiot. The connection is f'ing stupid.
was he thinking about himself when he did that?
How old are you? You can't be too old if you're posting crap like this about Taylor
If Lawrence Taylor never won a superbowl withe giants you think the giants would still honor him after all the shit he has done?
so again if beckham wins a championship will the people who hate him then love him?
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when he came back into the came injured and still put up 200 yards and carried the team to a victory?
was he thinking about himself when he did that?
How old are you? You can't be too old if you're posting crap like this about Taylor
why? because i am calling the taylot the piece of shit that he is?
If Lawrence Taylor never won a superbowl withe giants you think the giants would still honor him after all the shit he has done?
so again if beckham wins a championship will the people who hate him then love him?
He hasn't won anything you moron. You must be about 20 years old.
I can't dumb it down to your level. Go sleep with a kickers net and make the connection you're as talented as OBJ too.
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because i called you out on being a hypocrit and you have no come back for it?
If Lawrence Taylor never won a superbowl withe giants you think the giants would still honor him after all the shit he has done?
so again if beckham wins a championship will the people who hate him then love him?
He hasn't won anything you moron. You must be about 20 years old.
I can't dumb it down to your level. Go sleep with a kickers net and make the connection you're as talented as OBJ too.
again you moron IF beckham wins a championship will you love him like you do LT...
holy shit is this that hard to understand..
LT won a championship=loved but still a piece of shit...
Beckham has not won=hated, celebrates to much...
so again if beckham wins do you then love him..
After all the crap he had for showing emotion and hitting the kicking net and having memes and all sorts made about it, and then being told by people that he is crazy, etc. You'd think after he starts finding his range against GB and the Ravens, that he could actually show the funny side of it
It always seems as if it's the ones who never would get close to playing on a football field, that get the most angry about this.
Let the kid play football.
nobody here has ever been bashful about hating rival players because of their uniform.
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You can not compare Odell with Taylor for countless reasons. And for you all to go there shows that you are grasping at straws defending how idiotic Odell has been acting. If Odell was on any other team (especially skins, eagles, or boys) the same people defending Odell on this thread would be crucifying him. (Yeah you would.)
nobody here has ever been bashful about hating rival players because of their uniform.
so you are willing to look the other way because of what he did for the giants, isnt that being hypocritical?
Great job. Like OBJ, maybe you will learn someday yet not off to a promising start.