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Francesca with a great rant on OBJ's antics

DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 1:19 pm
I agree with him that OBJ is making it all about him and it's going to bite the Giants someday.

An old coach of mine once said "Act like you've been there before." I think that sentiment is lost on players today as everyone tries for their "Twitter" or "YouTube" moment.

I know a lot of you will disagree with me on this but I cringed watching him after both TDs yesterday. It was awkwardly painful to watch and just really made him look like a fool. Same thing with Cruz after a 1st down. Just get back to the huddle and do it again.
well, I'll say this much  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2016 1:22 pm : link
If anyone's an expert on looking like a fool, it's Mike Francesa.
I loved  
weaverpsu : 10/17/2016 1:23 pm : link
when he took off his helmet and yelled at the ref on his way back to the sideline. The refs deserved that. They were horrible, border line corrupt. I also don't understand the penalty if he was outside of the endzone by the time his helmet actually came off. Almost every receiver celebrates these days. Though, I have to admit, I would love it if he just tossed the ball back to the ref from time to time.
We have the best WR we've ever had in 90+ years as a team  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/17/2016 1:23 pm : link
When this is a passing league, when every rule favors the QB and the WR. How many years did we look at players like Rice, Irvin, Calvin Johnson and wish the Giants could have a player like him?

We finally have one the best players in the league and I can't believe so many people want nothing more than to find a reason to complain.
I'm more talking about  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 1:23 pm : link
the awkward run through the end zone after TD #1 and the making out with the kicking net.
would someone please  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2016 1:23 pm : link
get off the soap box and let the guy have some fun without criticizing him.

He does need to stop the penalties, but otherwise, I don't care how he celebrates within the rules of the league.

Belichick said it best in his Football Life special, you work so hard all off-season, all during training camp, in all the pre-season games, all week long in practice, when you get in the end zone you should celebrate.
Yeah OBJ was really the problem  
Route 9 : 10/17/2016 1:23 pm : link
Yesterday. Killed the Giants.
Let me guess...you are old school guy, like my dad  
Neckbone1333 : 10/17/2016 1:24 pm : link
who hates any celebration

I don't like OBJ removing his helmet or the corny shit with the kicking net, but who cares about the other shit.

So Cruz pointed that he got a first down. OBJ did a triple jump. I hope I see 20 more Triple Jumps this season from him.
I don't care about that stuff.  
81_Great_Dane : 10/17/2016 1:24 pm : link
It's not new, he's not the only guy who does it, whatever. I think his first end zone celebration was more goofy than fun.

With the second, I think there's something wrong with the rule. He wasn't in the field of play, never came back in bounds, play was dead, why should that be a foul? I didn't think there was anything actually wrong with that at all. Nothing.
The antics are a joke yet  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 1:25 pm : link
some simpletons love the antics more than the game. They likely tune in for antics. A 15 yard penalty is a back story b/c this dope is pretending to propose to a kicking net. Seriously? Think Belichcik would allow this "me me" side show?
RE: We have the best WR we've ever had in 90+ years as a team  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 1:25 pm : link
In comment 13178200 Bold Ruler said:
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When this is a passing league, when every rule favors the QB and the WR. How many years did we look at players like Rice, Irvin, Calvin Johnson and wish the Giants could have a player like him?

We finally have one the best players in the league and I can't believe so many people want nothing more than to find a reason to complain.



Maybe because someday it's going to cost us? Or maybe he's going to injure himself during a celebration stunt. Or maybe it would be nice to see a professional athlete act professional and succeed with class.
Fans and media be like 'Down in Front!' to Odell.  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/17/2016 1:25 pm : link
Bunch of old time farts who sit on their hands and leave the stadium at the start of the 4th quarter.
Isn't this the same guy who falls asleep on the air  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/17/2016 1:25 pm : link
and treats callers like dogshit? Why does he get away with it? Because he's (generally) very good at his job.

Same goes for Odell.
agree about the celebrations after 1st downs  
giants#1 : 10/17/2016 1:26 pm : link
But the NFL needs to do away with its antiquated penalties for celebrating touchdowns. Especially 65+ yard bombs to cap a 200+ yard performance and take the lead with <90 secs remaining.

I get wanting to avoid taunting and banning (basically) all celebrations means theirs no interpretation for the refs to decide if a player is taunting vs celebrating, but flagging this (harmless) stuff just ruins the game. Washington got an unsportsmanlike penalty because Davis? did a finger roll using the goalposts (probably can't elevate enough anymore to dunk it). What purpose does flagging that serve?
Francessa should shut his fat face here  
rdt288 : 10/17/2016 1:26 pm : link
- we get it. He doesn't like millenials.
So many fans wish players today would act like  
GiantFilthy : 10/17/2016 1:26 pm : link
players we grew up watching but don't realize that many of those players from when we were young would have acted in similar fashion had social media existed.
RE: Let me guess...you are old school guy, like my dad  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 1:26 pm : link
In comment 13178204 Neckbone1333 said:
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who hates any celebration

I don't like OBJ removing his helmet or the corny shit with the kicking net, but who cares about the other shit.

So Cruz pointed that he got a first down. OBJ did a triple jump. I hope I see 20 more Triple Jumps this season from him.



Yes I'm old school in that I have more respect for players who aren't all about "me me me". If that bothers you about me than so be it.
I have a question:  
Doomster : 10/17/2016 1:27 pm : link
Has OBj given the net a ring yet? It looks like they are ready to get to the next level....
the kicking net stuff is  
giants#1 : 10/17/2016 1:28 pm : link
1. Trolling the media which blew his first interaction WAY out of proportion
2. His way of celebrating WITHOUT getting a flag since he's on the sideline. Let the kid enjoy himself after a game like that. And he draws flags/fines for sneezing on the field, so what else do you want him to do?
The net said 'yes' yesterday  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/17/2016 1:28 pm : link
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I'm amazed that we have perhaps the second most talented player  
chris r : 10/17/2016 1:29 pm : link
in franchise history and fans spend so much time worrying about harmless antics.

I hope this (and Eli getting old) doesn't drive him out of NY.
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GiantFilthy : 10/17/2016 1:29 pm : link
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I have a question:
Doomster : 1:27 pm : link : reply
Has OBj given the net a ring yet? It looks like they are ready to get to the next level....

OBJ said himself that things are getting serious in yesterday's post game press conference. Some here might want to trade him because of that now.
Cam Newton  
KWhite2250 : 10/17/2016 1:29 pm : link
Celebrates after every fucking positive thing he does but hey he gives the ball to children so no biggie
RE: RE: Let me guess...you are old school guy, like my dad  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 1:29 pm : link
In comment 13178217 DC Gmen Fan said:
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In comment 13178204 Neckbone1333 said:


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who hates any celebration

I don't like OBJ removing his helmet or the corny shit with the kicking net, but who cares about the other shit.

So Cruz pointed that he got a first down. OBJ did a triple jump. I hope I see 20 more Triple Jumps this season from him.




Yes I'm old school in that I have more respect for players who aren't all about "me me me". If that bothers you about me than so be it.


You don't have to be old school to recognize how Larry Fitzgerald still handles himself. Jerry Rice, Barry Sanders, Walter Peyton, etc would never cost their team a 15 yard penalty b/c they had to, must, celebrate themselves.
Mike's old school...I get it...  
BillKo : 10/17/2016 1:30 pm : link
and it's his show. In many aspects, he is correct. OBJ makes an incredible play, then almost hurts his team in the same instance.

I'm old school myself, but OBJ is an exceptional talent and entertainer.....I mean, that game yesterday was one of the best ones I attended and OBJ had much to do with it.

He needs to clean it up a tad, and I'm willing to work with the guy instead of beating him down............
The kicking net schtick is stale  
bceagle05 : 10/17/2016 1:30 pm : link
but I had no problem with his celebration right after the TD. Can you blame him for that release of emotion? It was a 70-yard game-winning TD on a fourth down play with the season very much hanging in the balance. Not to mention the frustration of the refs fucking us over on the DRC call. To throw a flag there because he took his helmet off while running back to the sideline was garbage, and I'm glad he was barking at the refs.
RE: I don't care about that stuff.  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2016 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13178206 81_Great_Dane said:
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It's not new, he's not the only guy who does it, whatever. I think his first end zone celebration was more goofy than fun.

With the second, I think there's something wrong with the rule. He wasn't in the field of play, never came back in bounds, play was dead, why should that be a foul? I didn't think there was anything actually wrong with that at all. Nothing.


Blandino highlights it on his twitter, you can't remove your helmet in celebration or confrontation. Plus he said Beckham yelled at the official as he ran past him, depending what was said, either could have been flagged. just relaying the message from head of officiating, who confirmed proper call, not defending it.
RE: I'm amazed that we have perhaps the second most talented player  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13178225 chris r said:
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in franchise history and fans spend so much time worrying about harmless antics.

I hope this (and Eli getting old) doesn't drive him out of NY.


They're only harmless until they either cause a penalty that costs us a game or he hurts himself celebrating.
RE: RE: Let me guess...you are old school guy, like my dad  
giants#1 : 10/17/2016 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13178217 DC Gmen Fan said:
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Yes I'm old school in that I have more respect for players who aren't all about "me me me". If that bothers you about me than so be it.


Celebrating doesn't make him "me me me". He was one of the first players to congratulate Cruz when he scored his first TD this year.
Don't celebrate a sack when your down 30 in the 4th  
RonPaulsBalls : 10/17/2016 1:30 pm : link
Don't taunt another player after a good play or victory.

But by all means celebrate the shit out of a 66 yard TD on a 4th and 1 to take a lead.

These guys are not members of the military, student athletes playing a cream puff. They are paid to play a game and if you don't want OBJ to celebrate keep him out of the endzone.
Francesa says basicallythe giants are fools  
micky : 10/17/2016 1:31 pm : link
for condoning his actions.

I dont mind the having fun and all..i could care less..but i do care when it effects the team with foolish penalties..or esp if/when it effects an outcome of a game.

Just do it on the sideline if he feels the need..he'll be seen as he's a camera draw.
Mike isn't entirely wrong  
djm : 10/17/2016 1:32 pm : link
but he's being unfair to the Giants now and has been ever since OBJ burst on to the scene. Saying the Giants are actually encouraging BEckham's behavior is just a flat out assumption and lie. And he acts like the Giants should publicly admonish Beckham as if that's going to help matters.

Mike knows sports but he doesn't know the locker room dynamic or how to properly handle pro athlete egos. He thinks he knows, but he doesn't and worse, he doesn't know WTF the Giants are or aren't doing behind closed doors.

LAstly, Beckham needs to stop with the penalties but the sideline antics are so fucking overstated it's not even funny anymore. Mike makes is sound like Beckham is kicking puppies on the sidelines. OMG the horror he's trying to be funny with the net!! Who the fuck cares! It doesn't matter.

Noise noise noise.
The "Act like you've been there before" line is so tired out.  
Mr. Bungle : 10/17/2016 1:32 pm : link
The majority of players these days celebrate when they score touchdowns. And the celebrations are usually stupid. Just get over it, already. It's never going back to "the good ol' days."
.....  
Route 9 : 10/17/2016 1:32 pm : link
When your best maker on the team has a day like he did yesterday, was the primary reason they won, and he's not pulling anything near what he did with Josh Norman and you're "cringing" and complaining about dancing after he did well for your team? odd. Fuck your old school.
I actually think Beckham  
UConn4523 : 10/17/2016 1:33 pm : link
is mocking the media at this point. He wasn't like this year 1 or year 2; he celebrated but it was over with by the time he went to the sidelines on most occasions.

Now, its like a big FU to the people who get mad at it.

I stopped caring about this stuff. As long as he isn't committing crimes he can do whatever he wants.
McAdoo's Thursday interview should be hilarious.  
bceagle05 : 10/17/2016 1:33 pm : link
Hope he comes right back at him again.
Get off my lawn!  
moespree : 10/17/2016 1:33 pm : link
Been saying it since last season. Francesa is a perfect example of the generation gap regarding Beckham. One that shows itself here on BBI as well.
RE: Let me guess...you are old school guy, like my dad  
Tom in NY : 10/17/2016 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13178204 Neckbone1333 said:
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who hates any celebration

I don't like OBJ removing his helmet or the corny shit with the kicking net, but who cares about the other shit.

So Cruz pointed that he got a first down. OBJ did a triple jump. I hope I see 20 more Triple Jumps this season from him.


I'm an "old school guy" and have no problem with anything OBJ does on the sideline (e.g. Kicking net), nor the triple jump after scoring.

I am, however, concerned about pointing at the opponent (1st TD - pointing at Weddell), carry the ball in one hand the last 20 yards on and taking his helmet off after the 2nd TD.

Defensive players love taking shots on a guy they believe rubs their nose in it (TO, Ocho Cinco) and OBJ is doing that while in the field of play. If he played for the Eagles, 'Skins, or Dallas we would hate him for this stuff.
My worry is, a dirty team like the Rams is going to try to take him out of the game with some cheap shots and justify it by "how he acted."

Great talent - all time top 10 Giant ...let's go win a championship and he can bring his kicking net to the parade in NYC.
RE: Mike's old school...I get it...  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13178229 BillKo said:
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and it's his show. In many aspects, he is correct. OBJ makes an incredible play, then almost hurts his team in the same instance.

I'm old school myself, but OBJ is an exceptional talent and entertainer.


So OBJ is an entertainer lol. I must have missed the dance contest at the combine.
RE: .....  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13178242 Route 9 said:
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Fuck your old school.


Nice response.


Would you be saying the same thing had the 15 yard penalty been a factor in us losing?
RE: Get off my lawn!  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 1:35 pm : link
In comment 13178247 moespree said:
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Been saying it since last season. Francesa is a perfect example of the generation gap regarding Beckham. One that shows itself here on BBI as well.


Must be why Sidney Crosby doesn't break dance on skates with the Stanley Cup.

The dickhead  
Randy in CT : 10/17/2016 1:35 pm : link
(and anyone agreeing with him) FOCUSING on that, and not the 200+ yards receiving and 2 TDs from OBJ, has their heads up the asses.

Not a fan of the antics but something great happened via OBJ yesterday, and skipping that to tell everyone to get off your lawn makes you a dumb cunt.
RE: Fans and media be like 'Down in Front!' to Odell.  
stillpoe : 10/17/2016 1:35 pm : link
In comment 13178211 Bold Ruler said:
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Bunch of old time farts who sit on their hands and leave the stadium at the start of the 4th quarter.


Haha seriously. I think Odell has had some poor moments, but it kills me that people expect these athletes to be well-behaved. I actually don't even think that all these guys are the type to sit on their hands. The same people saying Odell should just run back to the huddle or sideline are the same people losing their minds when they watch the game. If you guys can watch the whole game composed and in relative silence, then go ahead and complain. I read a lot of "shut up and play" but a lot of youl cant even "shut up and watch".
Oh and Francesa is going to rip the Giants all the time now  
moespree : 10/17/2016 1:35 pm : link
Coughlin's gone and McAdoo doesn't give a shit about Mike as evidenced by his interviews with him. This combo has annoyed Francesa. So anything he says about the Giants moving forward should be viewed with great skepticism.
Odell had a career day...the 2nd best day by a Giant WR ever  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/17/2016 1:36 pm : link
all media talk about is the net.
OBJ is just a kid and acts like it  
baadbill : 10/17/2016 1:37 pm : link
... the really pathetic part is how childish his interaction with the kicking net has become ... Hopefully OBJ can become a man without losing his mojo.
RE: The dickhead  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 1:37 pm : link
In comment 13178257 Randy in CT said:
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(and anyone agreeing with him) FOCUSING on that, and not the 200+ yards receiving and 2 TDs from OBJ, has their heads up the asses.

Not a fan of the antics but something great happened via OBJ yesterday, and skipping that to tell everyone to get off your lawn makes you a dumb cunt.


Thanks Randy. Nice post.

So we can't be elated with the result of his on field play without having a discussion about other things in the background?
mike has spent 15 min talking about the net indident  
djm : 10/17/2016 1:37 pm : link
and nothing came of it. Nothing. He's gonna talk about something all day long that led to nothing.
Guy was unreal  
rocco8112 : 10/17/2016 1:37 pm : link
At any level of football, you can never remove your helmet unless you are on the sideline.
RE: Guy was unreal  
rocco8112 : 10/17/2016 1:38 pm : link
In comment 13178270 rocco8112 said:
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At any level of football, you can never remove your helmet unless you are on the sideline.


His play was unreal
RE: Fans and media be like 'Down in Front!' to Odell.  
weaverpsu : 10/17/2016 1:38 pm : link
In comment 13178211 Bold Ruler said:
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Bunch of old time farts who sit on their hands and leave the stadium at the start of the 4th quarter.


This^^^
I agree that the whole thing with the net at this point is old  
Brown Recluse : 10/17/2016 1:38 pm : link
and groan-worthy. But hey - I'd rather him make out with the kicking net than throw his helmet at it and get into fights with opposing players.

He seems really immature. But he also seems to have grown some over the past few weeks and we should hope it continues.
RE: RE: RE: Let me guess...you are old school guy, like my dad  
Chris in Philly : 10/17/2016 1:38 pm : link
In comment 13178233 giants#1 said:
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In comment 13178217 DC Gmen Fan said:


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Yes I'm old school in that I have more respect for players who aren't all about "me me me". If that bothers you about me than so be it.



Celebrating doesn't make him "me me me". He was one of the first players to congratulate Cruz when he scored his first TD this year.


By pretending to tale a picture in a choreographed routine that 99% of the time gets called for a penalty. By some miracle, we got away with that one...
It's not a generation gap  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2016 1:39 pm : link
It's just some people love to bitch about something, ANYTHING. My dad is 65 years old and he doesn't have any problem with Beckham at all. You make allowances for great players that you don't for scrubs. And the penalty was bogus. The rule clearly states that the penalty is incurred when the helmet is removed while on the field of play, and Beckham was out of bounds. Don't even try to give me some "spirit of the rule" bullshit.

LT was known to dance around and celebrate from time to time too, you know.
"he's a distraction"  
djm : 10/17/2016 1:44 pm : link
I love that one.


Is OBJ sticking his body in front of the film projector and preventing the team from seeing the presentation during film study? Maybe he's screaming out loud in the huddle causing guys to miss the play call...

Distraction from what??

He's distracting Mike and some fans.
OBJ is turning into Terrell Owens in a bad way  
Stan in LA : 10/17/2016 1:51 pm : link
And Owens never changed his act. Love the production, hate the drama.
RE:  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/17/2016 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13178279 djm said:
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I love that one.


Is OBJ sticking his body in front of the film projector and preventing the team from seeing the presentation during film study? Maybe he's screaming out loud in the huddle causing guys to miss the play call...

Distraction from what??

He's distracting Mike and some fans.


He's a distraction from an otherwise impotent offense.
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Route 9 : 10/17/2016 1:54 pm : link
No. It's the defenses job to stop them now, the OBJ TD on 4th down was such a big play in the game and even with the refs doing what they were doing or "not doing" in the game, he was just fired up. Brown had a good kick despite it being from the 20.
and I love the comments about players  
giants#1 : 10/17/2016 1:55 pm : link
never acting like this in the 'old days'. That's nonsense. The reason players today can't celebrate, is because celebrations in the 'old days' often bordered on taunting (e.g. mocking of the dirty birds, TO celebrating on the star, etc).
For someone who supposedly had a hip pointer..  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 1:55 pm : link
doing a long jump in the end zone probably wasn't the smartest thing.
And now Mike  
KWhite2250 : 10/17/2016 1:55 pm : link
Doesnt want to hear about him overcoming injury yesterday because he wasnt hurting
RE: OBJ is turning into Terrell Owens in a bad way  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 1:56 pm : link
In comment 13178281 Stan in LA said:
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And Owens never changed his act. Love the production, hate the drama.


People love the drama. When you don't win I guess the antics fill the void. Does Tom Brady get that 15 yard penalty?
RE: and I love the comments about players  
Route 9 : 10/17/2016 1:57 pm : link
In comment 13178289 giants#1 said:
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never acting like this in the 'old days'. That's nonsense. The reason players today can't celebrate, is because celebrations in the 'old days' often bordered on taunting (e.g. mocking of the dirty birds, TO celebrating on the star, etc).


No he's talking about the 50s
OBJ is awesome  
Les in TO : 10/17/2016 1:57 pm : link
and he would be 0-6 without him. he loves his team and his teammates.

he needs to recognize that there is a magnifying glass on his actions and err on the side of caution before punching, trash talking or excessively celebrating in a way that is going to get flagged.

but I never want to see him lose his energy, passion and intensity not to mention his world class quicks and speed.
I love youz guys  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 1:58 pm : link
all of yuz guys
Sigh...  
Bramton1 : 10/17/2016 1:59 pm : link
Football: a form of team game played in North America with an oval ball on a field marked out as a gridiron.

A 23 year old man gets paid $2.5 million a year to play a game, and people are upset that he's having fun?
ill keep saying it  
djm : 10/17/2016 2:00 pm : link
even though it never gets enough talk but how many great great teams had maniacs on the roster? Guys that went full retard every time they scored a TD...guys like Emmitt Smith, Irvin...with the theatrics. Those guys were fine...right? Wrong, they were ego maniacs that would have run over their own mother to win a game and when they helped their team win they let EVERYONE know about it. ANd yet somehow, someway their teams won, a lot.

It' noise. The only think BEckham needs to do is stop taking the personal fouls. The crap on the sidelines is nothing.

Mike is out of line here. He's mad that everyone talks about Beckham's antics yet he's doing the same thing.
RE: Odell had a career day...the 2nd best day by a Giant WR ever  
BlueHurricane : 10/17/2016 2:00 pm : link
In comment 13178264 Bold Ruler said:
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all media talk about is the net.


Yep....... GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!
The Larger picture  
RAIN : 10/17/2016 2:01 pm : link
He won us the game.

He is good to his teamates.

He's not following Eli around and hounding him publicly.

He is an extrovert. The fire translates to the field.

I'll take it. To me it's 80% good and 20% bad. Can you imagine how LT would be treated in this day of social media?
RE: OBJ is awesome  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13178302 Les in TO said:
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and he would be 0-6 without him. he loves his team and his teammates.

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Probably true. He's worth some wins

I do believe the Giants did win four Super Bowls b/c a stout defense though.
RE: OBJ is awesome  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13178302 Les in TO said:
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and he would be 0-6 without him. he loves his team and his teammates.

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Probably true. He's worth some wins

I do believe the Giants did win four Super Bowls b/c a stout defense though.
So glad we get a full afternoon of "Vinnie i the Bronx"  
drkenneth : 10/17/2016 2:02 pm : link
and Mike bitching and moaning about Beckham.

Did players not dance in the 70s? 80s?

I guess I imagined the Icky Shuffle.
So glad we get a full afternoon of "Vinnie i the Bronx"  
drkenneth : 10/17/2016 2:02 pm : link
and Mike bitching and moaning about Beckham.

Did players not dance in the 70s? 80s?

I guess I imagined the Icky Shuffle.
RE: RE: I don't care about that stuff.  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/17/2016 2:03 pm : link
In comment 13178231 pjcas18 said:
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With the second, I think there's something wrong with the rule. He wasn't in the field of play, never came back in bounds, play was dead, why should that be a foul? I didn't think there was anything actually wrong with that at all. Nothing.

Blandino highlights it on his twitter, you can't remove your helmet in celebration or confrontation. Plus he said Beckham yelled at the official as he ran past him, depending what was said, either could have been flagged. just relaying the message from head of officiating, who confirmed proper call, not defending it.

No criticism of anyone here.

Blandino has never done anything but support the refs. So who cares what he thinks? Guy is the ultimate yes man. Hard to understand the purpose of his job if the refs are always right. Other than to party with the Cowboys. NFL central is all about appearances and nothing about anything that matters.
RE: and I love the comments about players  
micky : 10/17/2016 2:03 pm : link
In comment 13178289 giants#1 said:
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never acting like this in the 'old days'. That's nonsense. The reason players today can't celebrate, is because celebrations in the 'old days' often bordered on taunting (e.g. mocking of the dirty birds, TO celebrating on the star, etc).


Reason for celebrations at mininum in "old days" was it was handled by their peers on the field when hitting was allowed without consequences. But its new times and hey adapt to changes...i could care less what obj does until it effects the team on the field..costly penalties. Just have fun..but be smart in process..refs are crooked anyways
"we look the other way at the mistakes and the turnovers"  
djm : 10/17/2016 2:04 pm : link
so now Beckham is a problem because of all these turnovers and mistakes he makes? Mike doesn't see him getting the message.

So what do you propose their mike? Should the Giants cut him? Fine him? They have. Should they cut the best WR of this era all because he's wacky on the sidelines? No.

McAdoo comes out every fucking week and says they talked to BEckham. But in Mike's world the Giants are having BEckham parties every night and feeding his ego with hershey kisses and accolades.
...Mike...  
djm : 10/17/2016 2:04 pm : link
so now Beckham is a problem because of all these turnovers and mistakes he makes? Mike doesn't see him getting the message.

So what do you propose their mike? Should the Giants cut him? Fine him? They have. Should they cut the best WR of this era all because he's wacky on the sidelines? No.

McAdoo comes out every fucking week and says they talked to BEckham. But in Mike's world the Giants are having BEckham parties every night and feeding his ego with hershey kisses and accolades.
So The Press Made a Big Deal About the Kicking Net  
Bernie : 10/17/2016 2:04 pm : link
in the first place. He was mocked and derided for it. Now when he predictably makes it part of his TD celebration they are offended by it. Sometimes the press should point the thumb vs. the finger.

OBJ is in a no win situation. No matter WHAT he does, someone will take issue with it. He should have known better about the helmet, but I have no problem with the rest of it.
The penalty didn't cost the Giants the game  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 2:04 pm : link
so anything Beckham does is praised.

Had the penalty cost the Giants the game, people could then blame the coach.
RE: OBJ is turning into Terrell Owens in a bad way  
moespree : 10/17/2016 2:05 pm : link
In comment 13178281 Stan in LA said:
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And Owens never changed his act. Love the production, hate the drama.


I'm glad you mention him. I feel the same way about OBJ as I do TO. And that's both men are unfairly scrutinized. TO didn't kill anyone, rape anyway, beat children with a tree branch, beat women, throw women, drive drunk, pop pills, take drugs, get into night club altercations, bar altercations...I could go on because the amount of law breaking in the NFL is endless. Yet, he, much like OBJ presently, is treated and scrutinized as if he is worse than all those other players who actually did do those things. It's stupid and lame.
RE: RE: RE: I don't care about that stuff.  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2016 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13178328 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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In comment 13178231 pjcas18 said:


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With the second, I think there's something wrong with the rule. He wasn't in the field of play, never came back in bounds, play was dead, why should that be a foul? I didn't think there was anything actually wrong with that at all. Nothing.

Blandino highlights it on his twitter, you can't remove your helmet in celebration or confrontation. Plus he said Beckham yelled at the official as he ran past him, depending what was said, either could have been flagged. just relaying the message from head of officiating, who confirmed proper call, not defending it.


No criticism of anyone here.

Blandino has never done anything but support the refs. So who cares what he thinks? Guy is the ultimate yes man. Hard to understand the purpose of his job if the refs are always right. Other than to party with the Cowboys. NFL central is all about appearances and nothing about anything that matters.


I know, but he did provide an explanation of the penalty and he's the guy that runs the conference calls with the refs highlighting the mistakes and what to look for. Rather than being solely a yes man, I think he influences things.
I haven't seen a celebration like that since the 96' World Series  
ghost718 : 10/17/2016 2:06 pm : link
I thought Wade Boggs was gonna come out on a horse.
The net thing should have died last week  
rsjem1979 : 10/17/2016 2:08 pm : link
At least it was plausibly spontaneous and self-deprecating after his little tempter tantrum a few weeks ago.

Now it's a "bit", and it's worn out.
OBJ  
GeorgeAdams33 : 10/17/2016 2:09 pm : link
will be fine
forget the net  
TeamSchlitz1 : 10/17/2016 2:10 pm : link
his stupid antics (net) and childish celebrations are fine, do what you want. I have ZERO issue with that AT ALL.

When he got that penalty, you can no longer talk about it as "harmless." That was a major detriment to the team at the worst possible time.

You think anyone would be talking about his 66 yard td if Baltimore scores? No, they would be talking about his penalty that put them in a better spot to succeed.

Also, not that it matters but I am 29. Still love I LOVE BECKHAM. He is so god damn good. He just has to cut the shit. And in my opinion, he did absolutely nothing wrong until that flag came out. That is where the line was crossed.

Nothing he can say postgame or this week or whenever can ever replace the actions that put his team in a vulnerable spot.
Odell Looks like a real JACKASS  
ZogZerg : 10/17/2016 2:10 pm : link
with what he is doing with the net. Hew needs to get over that already and grow the fuck up.

He also hurts his team by taking stupid personal foul penalties.

Count me in with those tired of his antics.
Odell Looks like a real JACKASS  
ZogZerg : 10/17/2016 2:11 pm : link
with what he is doing with the net. Hew needs to get over that already and grow the fuck up.

He also hurts his team by taking stupid personal foul penalties.

Count me in with those tired of his antics.
RE: RE: I don't care about that stuff.  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2016 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13178231 pjcas18 said:
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Blandino highlights it on his twitter, you can't remove your helmet in celebration or confrontation.


The rule is specific - it's illegal when you're on the field. Beckham was no longer on the field of play.
You look like a jackass with these double posts  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/17/2016 2:13 pm : link
;)
RE: Odell Looks like a real JACKASS  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13178363 ZogZerg said:
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with what he is doing with the net. Hew needs to get over that already and grow the fuck up.

He also hurts his team by taking stupid personal foul penalties.

Count me in with those tired of his antics.



+1
RE: You look like a jackass with these double posts  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13178373 Bold Ruler said:
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;)


The posts aren't posting immediately so a few of us are reposting. The a dupe appears ;)
RE: RE: Odell Looks like a real JACKASS  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13178374 DC Gmen Fan said:
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In comment 13178363 ZogZerg said:


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with what he is doing with the net. Hew needs to get over that already and grow the fuck up.

He also hurts his team by taking stupid personal foul penalties.

Count me in with those tired of his antics.




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+2
Greg  
TeamSchlitz1 : 10/17/2016 2:16 pm : link
do you seriously think cause he was one step out of the end zone it shouldn't have been a penalty? I am aware of the wording of the rule, but what rock are you living under if you're trying to pull that card.

Anytime anyone takes their helmet off in celebration, it is ALWAYS called. That is day one shit, no need for that. You could tell he even thought about it, he ripped his chinstrap off, double clutched when he was taking his helmet off, and did it anyway.

That shouldn't be a serious defense for him. He was one step out of the end zone. He needs to be more aware right there.
Bold Ruler (hey btw, hope all is well) and others  
jvm52106 : 10/17/2016 2:17 pm : link
I completely disagree with you. First Beckham could have cost us the game. That was a stupid penalty. The rule has been in place for a LONG LONG TIME. YOU CANNOT TAKE OFF YOUR HELMET IN AN ARGUMENT, CELEBARTION etc. while on the field. Its semantics about being out of the endzone. On top of that he would have been hit with a flag for yelling at the REF! Beckham needs to stop acting like a fool. If he played on any other team this place would be full of posts about his actions. He needs to just play. Celebrate on the sidelines with your dumb net fetish but shut the fuck up on the field. Stop being a me me me princess.

OMG, LT, Banks, Carson etc. would have been all over him if cost them 15 yards that late in the game...
JVM  
TeamSchlitz1 : 10/17/2016 2:18 pm : link
That was right down the pipe, my thoughts exactly.
The guys only 23 years old for goodness sakes.....  
Simms11 : 10/17/2016 2:18 pm : link
let him have some fun. He's certainly not yelling at his teammates or coaches like some other receivers past and present did! He's having fun, something this league is trying to squash, it appears. Let him celebrate how he likes. He's not hurting anybody and he just scored the winning freaking TD, at least in his mind, he's extremely happy he could do that for his team and the fans. He's an extremely humble guy and I for one am happy he's on this team. I'm sure he'll mature in a few years, but I'll take those antics any day if it means he's scoring TDs and impacting the game as he did. A lot of the great receivers in this league celebrate in odd ways...Antonio Brown almost killed himself last year trying to hump a goal post! Come on already, let the kid have some fun. I know he has to stay away from the penalties, but jeez, the NFL is getting too tight-assed about some of this stuff.
How is it semantics?  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2016 2:21 pm : link
Does the rule mean what it says, or not? If not, then what's the distance required? How far away from the field is a player required to be before being allowed to take his helmet off?

If they're not going to abide by the criteria of the rule, then eliminate those criteria.
I also love how Mike always uses Shockey as a cautionary tale.  
bceagle05 : 10/17/2016 2:22 pm : link
I'm not a big Shockey fan, but the guy was a 10-year pro, Rookie of the Year, four-time Pro Bowl selection, two-time Super Bowl champion, and caught the go-ahead TD in a Super Bowl for the Saints. Oh, how the Giants ruined him! If not for injuries he'd be on his way to Canton.
and yelling at the refs is much less than they deserved  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2016 2:22 pm : link
The sonsofbitches deserved to be punched in the nose.
RE: RE: You look like a jackass with these double posts  
ZogZerg : 10/17/2016 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13178378 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 13178373 Bold Ruler said:


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The posts aren't posting immediately so a few of us are reposting. The a dupe appears ;)


Yes, apparently BBI site can handle all of these OBJ threads...
RE: The guys only 23 years old for goodness sakes.....  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13178387 Simms11 said:
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let him have some fun. He's certainly not yelling at his teammates or coaches like some other receivers past and present did! He's having fun, something this league is trying to squash, it appears. Let him celebrate how he likes. He's not hurting anybody and he just scored the winning freaking TD, at least in his mind, he's extremely happy he could do that for his team and the fans. He's an extremely humble guy and I for one am happy he's on this team. I'm sure he'll mature in a few years, but I'll take those antics any day if it means he's scoring TDs and impacting the game as he did. A lot of the great receivers in this league celebrate in odd ways...Antonio Brown almost killed himself last year trying to hump a goal post! Come on already, let the kid have some fun. I know he has to stay away from the penalties, but jeez, the NFL is getting too tight-assed about some of this stuff.



Simms, it's not about not letting him have fun. It's about having maturity and awareness that what he is doing could potentially cost the team someday (or cost him an injury).

...  
christian : 10/17/2016 2:24 pm : link
OBJ is good.

How good?

He so good he kicks the opponents ass AND all the whiny Giants fans at the same time.

Where was the outrage when Cruz was a dancing sensation, or Mike Strahan was a muscle man, or when ... every player celebrates?

Or is this about him taking off his helmet in a way that is clearly not prohibited in the rules?
read the rulebook  
WillieYoung : 10/17/2016 2:24 pm : link
what he did was not a penalty. I din't watch the game with sound but judging by the posts here, the announcers must have agreed with the call because a majority of people on this Board are acting like it was a legitimate penalty. You can take your helmet off if you're not in the field of play.
I heard Mikes rant  
mfsd : 10/17/2016 2:25 pm : link
while over the top, one point he made was fair - for OBJ, it's not enough to be great at football - there has to be an act on top of it

The net thing is silly but harmless. The helmet rule is what it is, but he should know that rule. But it sucks that this is what people are talking about.

He had a transcendent football game. Stuff of legend. Without the extra crap, people would focus just on his play. So part of it is on him.

But all that aside, Mike is a cranky old fuck
RE: RE: RE: I don't care about that stuff.  
Jerry's Kids : 10/17/2016 2:25 pm : link
The sidelines, where players and coaches are required to stand is between each 30 yard-line. The only way that penalty isn't called is if he gets back to the sideline and does the Emmitt Smith celebration there. Odell knew the rule, everyone knows you can't do that.


In comment 13178371
Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13178231 pjcas18 said:

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Blandino highlights it on his twitter, you can't remove your helmet in celebration or confrontation.



The rule is specific - it's illegal when you're on the field. Beckham was no longer on the field of play.
RE: Odell Looks like a real JACKASS  
RC02XX : 10/17/2016 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13178367 ZogZerg said:
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with what he is doing with the net. Hew needs to get over that already and grow the fuck up.

He also hurts his team by taking stupid personal foul penalties.

Count me in with those tired of his antics.


Well, aren't we lucky that OBJ actually helps this team with his incredible performance far far more than he hurts this team. But hey, one day...and I mean...one day...he'll hurt us.

For every one time he's hurt this team, he's also lifted this team 5-10 times.

As far as the net thing goes, it's silly, but it's become a source of entertainment for his fans. You don't have to enjoy it, but I know a lot of people have found it to be quite entertaining.

And if you think NFL is anything more than part of the entertainment industry, you're taking football way way way too seriously.
RE: forget the net  
Bernie : 10/17/2016 2:26 pm : link
In comment 13178361 TeamSchlitz1 said:
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his stupid antics (net) and childish celebrations are fine, do what you want. I have ZERO issue with that AT ALL.

When he got that penalty, you can no longer talk about it as "harmless." That was a major detriment to the team at the worst possible time.

You think anyone would be talking about his 66 yard td if Baltimore scores? No, they would be talking about his penalty that put them in a better spot to succeed.

Also, not that it matters but I am 29. Still love I LOVE BECKHAM. He is so god damn good. He just has to cut the shit. And in my opinion, he did absolutely nothing wrong until that flag came out. That is where the line was crossed.

Nothing he can say postgame or this week or whenever can ever replace the actions that put his team in a vulnerable spot.


Lets all be realistic. The penalty was effectively 7 yards and 5 seconds off the clock. If OBJ does not get the penalty, the most likely outcome of the Brown kickoff is a touchback (every previous kickoff resulted in a touchback). Baltimore then starts at the 25 and no time comes off the clock. Instead, Baltimore returns the kickoff to the 32 and takes 5 seconds off the clock.

Forgive me for being crazy, but is it too much to ask the Giants defense, the one on which the organization spent $200+ million this offseason, to keep Baltimore from going 68 yards in 1:24 for the winning TD? Spare me the "Odell almost cost the Giants the game" sobfest.
RE: RE: RE: I don't care about that stuff.  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2016 2:26 pm : link
In comment 13178371 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13178231 pjcas18 said:


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Blandino highlights it on his twitter, you can't remove your helmet in celebration or confrontation.



The rule is specific - it's illegal when you're on the field. Beckham was no longer on the field of play.


Don't know, check out his twitter explanation like I said not defending it.

He made no mention of the NFL helmet removal rule by name, he said it was unsportsmanlike because you cannot remove your helmet in times of celebration or confrontation - he said nothing about being in the field of play. not sure that's the same thing?

In either case he also said Beckham yelled something at the ref as he ran past him and could have been flagged for either.

like many of the NFL's rules this is probably inconsistently enforced and ambiguously written.

It's also possible he doesn't know the rules.
RE: How is it semantics?  
christian : 10/17/2016 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13178393 Greg from LI said:
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Does the rule mean what it says, or not? If not, then what's the distance required? How far away from the field is a player required to be before being allowed to take his helmet off?

If they're not going to abide by the criteria of the rule, then eliminate those criteria.


Stop it Greg. OBJ needs a lesson. And that lesson is he needs start following rules that don't exist and mind read when refs want to enforce them.
then that's the way the rule should be written  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2016 2:27 pm : link
Then there's no room for interpretation, right?
I echo a lot of people here...  
Pessimistic Rodent : 10/17/2016 2:27 pm : link
Just don't get the 15 yard penalty. Do whatever you want but just don't get that 15 yards...
The stuff after a score isn't so bad  
Gman11 : 10/17/2016 2:28 pm : link
it's the crap after a routine play. The pointing down the field after a first down, a DB waving his hands after an incompletion whether he had the guy covered or not.

The team pays you millions of dollars to catch a ball. Don't act like you did something extraordinary.
Oh, I'm sure it's plenty possible that Blandino doesn't really know  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2016 2:29 pm : link
the rules. Like I said on the Triplette thread, the NFL's officiating woes start at the top with the clown in charge of it all.
sorry  
SethFromAstoria : 10/17/2016 2:29 pm : link
Mike on WFAN

SethFromAstoria : 1:39 pm
There is a man on the radio talking about Beckham. He is discussing the "antics" like they are more important than the game....and then is asking why we are discussing it like its more important than the game....

its a social science experiment.

Is there anyone from the media here on this site? Perhaps you can explain why the people obsessing about everything besides the insane football performance are asking why that very thing is happening. THere is this whole collection of people who's job it is to report on sporting events and who don't grasp this simple idea that THEY CREATE THE NEWS and they can either talk about the phenomenal WR or they can talk about the stuff no one cares about.


These people are idiots and I have to get some explanation. Is there anyone here willing to defend the idiocy that can explain it?
Baseball is over, nobody cares about hockey, basketball hasn't started
jlukes : 1:53 pm : link : reply
and the Jets play tonight.

What the hell else do you expect them to talk about today?
When is Ira from Staten Island calling?
Drewcon40 : 1:55 pm : link : reply
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Did Ray Catina call da pope?
micky : 1:55 pm : link : reply
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Because they know they have to fill hours of talk
Mason : 1:56 pm : link : reply
Sports radio is the cheapest form of entertainment. It takes no creativity. Similar to the old business model of quick start up companies. It's like opening a gas station and liquor store on the same block. No creativity but it gets you quick cash.
Mike is right on point
ThatLimerickGuy : 2:02 pm : link : reply
How many weeks in a row can a team afford to have a player gifting away 15 yards in critical situations? He gets an unsportsmanlike penalty called against him EVERY WEEK.

I don't care about the net and I don't care about ANYTHING he does on the sideline outside of the realm of getting penalized. Do your commercials, do your 3 minute handshakes - I don't care.

Beckham has the chance to be a once in a generation talent but the team does have no idea how to handle him.

Think about the long term effects of allowing a player to operate outside of the rules set for the other 52 guys.

Football is a team game. When one player acts above the team you have a recipe for disaster.
lol - just couldn't
Giants2012 : 2:03 pm : link : reply
put this in the other thread
RE: Did Ray Catina call da pope?
drkenneth : 2:03 pm : link : reply
In comment 13178295 micky said:
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It's "Ray Catener"
I think a lot of the critics of Beckham's antics lack perspective
PetesHereNow : 2:06 pm : link : reply
Think about it like this:

You reach the pinnacle of your sport, after literally years of hard work from high school football, to high level NCAA D1 football, to NFL superstar status.

It's already been proven that you wear your emotions on your sleeve. They've even gotten the best of you on the field leading to a one-game suspension last year, and harming your team in the process. You've been criticized in the media fairly heavily. They've questioned you, called you a distraction, etc. etc. Now, you know the refs have an extra attentive eye on you.

Fast forward to yesterday, your team is down 23-20, less than 2 minutes to play. Your team is down primarily on the back of one of the worst pass interference calls ever seen. 4th and 1, an incomplete pass or a sack means certain defeat, a 2-4 record and another week of questions about a 4 game losing streak. You catch a little slant pass, first down, see your opening, keep running, cut left, you realize you're going to score. 70,000+ people on their feet cheering. You've done it. You've saved your team from the jaws of defeat. Isn't there a little part of you that wants to take your helmet off and say, "look at me now, you SOB's?"

Was it the wrong thing to do in the context of the rules? Sure, probably. But ultimately, it cost the team 6-7 yards. He probably won't do it again until he gets to the sidelines. He probably just reacted and didn't think about it. If he did think about it, he probably thought that being through the back of the end zone would be okay.

The truly sad thing is without him, this is a mediocre offense that only scores 10 pts yesterday. The two most criticized guys on this offense are OBJ and Eli, and without either of them, we're looking at true mediocrity across the board.
Limerick
Millwall_Giant : 2:06 pm : link : reply
He did nothing to warrant get the 15 yard penalty yesterday. It has been proven over and over again that, as per the rules allow, he was not on the playing field when he removed his helmet.

Yes he has done plenty previously to deserve some criticism, but yesterday was not it. This is just lazy media coverage stirring stuff up.
OBJ
GeorgeAdams33 : 2:08 pm : link : reply
shouldn't change a thing. He is right on course
OMG how many
jvm52106 : 2:28 pm : link : reply
times do I have to hear he did nothing to warrant a 15 yard penalty. Yes he did.. Look up the fucking rules. You may not like the rules but it is clear, no helmet off on the field when talking to officials, celebrating etc... It absolutely is a penalty. He gets hit with a penalty every week like this. It wasn't 6 or 7 yards that it cost the team. You have no idea how the Gmen would have handled the kickoff from the 35. Either way we were stuck with kicking it off deep. What if it had been returned for a TD? Could happen any time right? Not with the way most kickoffs go now from the 35 as they generally go deep in the end zone or out of it unless intentionally kicked short.

I love the player, hate the antics that get in his way. We lack a strong veteran leader on the offense (Eli will never be the guy who grabs people by the face mask) to help curtail some of this stuff.

Many of you excused Beckham's antics against the Rams a few years ago. Then last year many people blamed Norman in that episode even though Beckham went out of his way to really escalate things and now the Vikings game and here again yesterday. Beckham needs to keep the stuff off the playing field before he gets targeted (other teams) and before his antics cost the Gmen a game...
RE: lol - just couldn't
SethFromAstoria : 2:28 pm : link : reply
In comment 13178330 Giants2012 said:
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put this in the other thread


didnt sdee it. honestly.
here's another thing  
SethFromAstoria : 10/17/2016 2:31 pm : link
how many questions can you ask the team and the players and the coach where they answer it in a way you dont like, so you make up whatever you want.


This guy is speaking for ELi now. Honestly I'd love to just have a conversation in person with someone who can try to explain to me how they make a damn iota of sense. I'd enjoy shooting it all down so much
RE: The stuff after a score isn't so bad  
RC02XX : 10/17/2016 2:32 pm : link
In comment 13178423 Gman11 said:
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it's the crap after a routine play. The pointing down the field after a first down, a DB waving his hands after an incompletion whether he had the guy covered or not.

The team pays you millions of dollars to catch a ball. Don't act like you did something extraordinary.


They're entertainers, and entertainers do entertaining things. Whether they're doing theatrics on the field or doing outside gigs (endorsements or TV shows), they're entertainers. If they get the crowd and themselves fired up with those theatrics after a TD or after defending a pass or even after catching a first down, who gives a fuck? If those annoy you, you're taking the game way too seriously.
At the end of the day (Antrel)  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/17/2016 2:32 pm : link
Odell is who we thought he is. One of, if not the best WRs in the league. Think of our offense the last three seasons without him. To me, I'd rather have a potential hall of famer and enjoy watching him put up 220 yards and 2 TDs versus not having him and watching Randle run the wrong route.

Does he lose it sometimes? Yep. Is he emotional? yep. Is he only 23 and already the best WR we've ever had? Absolutely. I'll take that and I'll forgive him some of his faults.

Same went for LT.
Here is Blandino's twitter  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2016 2:33 pm : link
link, it's the second tweet (as of now with a video). I did tweet him and ask if it mattered if he was out of the end zone.
Forgot link  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2016 2:33 pm : link
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Link - ( New Window )
Proposing to a kicking net  
nicky43 : 10/17/2016 2:36 pm : link
was the most embarrassing thing I ever saw a football player do in a celebration but there have been a lot of other whoppers from many players. It was hard to watch that with all the cameras on him. Big deal. He caught a good pass and ran to the End zone as expected of a player of his talent level and his salary. He did his extremely high paid job.

I don't mean to pick on OBJ because I get upset with all the silly shenanigans and after play celebrations by so many of the players. It's as though the real competition is not the game as much as who has a better after play celebration. Very sad.

Now, I know many of you youngins out there won't understand the level of disgust I have for this kind of garbage and that's ok but I grew up watching the game played by mature men who would never have embarrassed their team and themselves with such childish me me me antics. Back then they wore ties to the game and all had short hair and looked like a professional team. Back then the fans and journalists would have mocked them if they tried this silly stuff.

Now they wear earrings and long hair and 40 pounds of expensive jewelry and many of the fans seem to enjoy the antics. It just makes me think how much the world has changed from the one I grew up in. So I don't really blame OBJ or any of the players who do these things. It's just a sign of the times, albeit, a sad sign for me and it reminds me how old I am.



Hopefully he figures out he  
KWALL2 : 10/17/2016 2:39 pm : link
looks like a jackass and the act does nothing for him or the team. That's my hope.

In the meantime, hes such a stud you put up with it and try and talk him out of his jackassery.
this guy just called in to say the steelers have solved all these  
SethFromAstoria : 10/17/2016 2:40 pm : link
issues.

Their RB wwas suspended for the 300044 tiMe.
The guys only 23 years old for goodness sakes.....  
Simms11 : 10/17/2016 2:42 pm : link
let him have some fun. He's certainly not yelling at his teammates or coaches like some other receivers past and present did! He's having fun, something this league is trying to squash, it appears. Let him celebrate how he likes. He's not hurting anybody and he just scored the winning freaking TD, at least in his mind, he's extremely happy he could do that for his team and the fans. He's an extremely humble guy and I for one am happy he's on this team. I'm sure he'll mature in a few years, but I'll take those antics any day if it means he's scoring TDs and impacting the game as he did. A lot of the great receivers in this league celebrate in odd ways...Antonio Brown almost killed himself last year trying to hump a goal post! Come on already, let the kid have some fun. I know he has to stay away from the penalties, but jeez, the NFL is getting too tight-assed about some of this stuff.
RE: Proposing to a kicking net  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13178451 nicky43 said:
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was the most embarrassing thing I ever saw a football player do in a celebration but there have been a lot of other whoppers from many players. It was hard to watch that with all the cameras on him. Big deal. He caught a good pass and ran to the End zone as expected of a player of his talent level and his salary. He did his extremely high paid job.

I don't mean to pick on OBJ because I get upset with all the silly shenanigans and after play celebrations by so many of the players. It's as though the real competition is not the game as much as who has a better after play celebration. Very sad.

Now, I know many of you youngins out there won't understand the level of disgust I have for this kind of garbage and that's ok but I grew up watching the game played by mature men who would never have embarrassed their team and themselves with such childish me me me antics. Back then they wore ties to the game and all had short hair and looked like a professional team. Back then the fans and journalists would have mocked them if they tried this silly stuff.

Now they wear earrings and long hair and 40 pounds of expensive jewelry and many of the fans seem to enjoy the antics. It just makes me think how much the world has changed from the one I grew up in. So I don't really blame OBJ or any of the players who do these things. It's just a sign of the times, albeit, a sad sign for me and it reminds me how old I am.





Good post but be prepared for the onslaught from the gallery..."you're no fun" "get off my lawn" "down in front"
Just curious  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 2:44 pm : link
for all those defending his antics, if it were your son at a high school (or any level) game doing these shenanigans, would you sit back and laugh it off? Or would you be embarrassed for him (and you)?
The antics are an issue if it hurts the team  
AnnapolisMike : 10/17/2016 2:47 pm : link
You may not like the rules or find them silly, but 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty can change a game.

He just needs to be smarter about it.
.....  
Route 9 : 10/17/2016 2:48 pm : link
What don't you get that the first incident with the net was unintentional? and every media idiot blew it up/thought it was the funniest thing in the world talking about it every second of every day of the week. I thought the first reference was enough after the score in Green Bay and he was just having fun after looking stupid with the Washington game, and the reactions during the Ravens game, while harmless were pointless. I don't care, its not like he's getting arrested for drug possession while wearing an Eagle jersey at 4 in the AM.
RE: Proposing to a kicking net  
David in LA : 10/17/2016 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13178451 nicky43 said:
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was the most embarrassing thing I ever saw a football player do in a celebration but there have been a lot of other whoppers from many players. It was hard to watch that with all the cameras on him. Big deal. He caught a good pass and ran to the End zone as expected of a player of his talent level and his salary. He did his extremely high paid job.

I don't mean to pick on OBJ because I get upset with all the silly shenanigans and after play celebrations by so many of the players. It's as though the real competition is not the game as much as who has a better after play celebration. Very sad.

Now, I know many of you youngins out there won't understand the level of disgust I have for this kind of garbage and that's ok but I grew up watching the game played by mature men who would never have embarrassed their team and themselves with such childish me me me antics. Back then they wore ties to the game and all had short hair and looked like a professional team. Back then the fans and journalists would have mocked them if they tried this silly stuff.

Now they wear earrings and long hair and 40 pounds of expensive jewelry and many of the fans seem to enjoy the antics. It just makes me think how much the world has changed from the one I grew up in. So I don't really blame OBJ or any of the players who do these things. It's just a sign of the times, albeit, a sad sign for me and it reminds me how old I am.




TL:DR my era was better, because athletes are homogenized. Football was more of a "gentleman's sport" in my era.
8 catches, 222 yards, 2 TD's...  
arcarsenal : 10/17/2016 2:51 pm : link
...including a game-winning and potentially season saving catch and run TD.. and this is what we're talking about.

Not only that.. but if anyone actually listened to anything he had to say afterwards, all he did was praise his QB and give him all the credit and call it a team win.

He's been under endless scrutiny and he's an emotional kid. He made the biggest play of the game and was pretty gassed up. Shouldn't have taken the helmet off but enough already. We don't win this game without him and he pretty clearly toughed it out in a game where he was pretty banged up.
odb - keep doing what you're doing :-)  
federer70 : 10/17/2016 2:51 pm : link
i'm almost 46 so consider myself ol' school - but definitely, as always, there's a double-standard for super-talented folks like him, lt, etc. and to me, it's all excitement and funny and of course, we need him. we don't win w/o him. he is young and celebrating when he does well - nothing wrong with that. just of course try to avoid penalties, but obviously the league has a third-eye out for him. if was to talk to him, i'd say just keep doing what you're doing, but try to avoid penalties :-)
It's no different than any other era  
Go Terps : 10/17/2016 2:53 pm : link
Players acted like idiots in the 80s too.

RE: 8 catches, 222 yards, 2 TD's...  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 10/17/2016 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13178505 arcarsenal said:
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...including a game-winning and potentially season saving catch and run TD.. and this is what we're talking about.

Not only that.. but if anyone actually listened to anything he had to say afterwards, all he did was praise his QB and give him all the credit and call it a team win.

He's been under endless scrutiny and he's an emotional kid. He made the biggest play of the game and was pretty gassed up. Shouldn't have taken the helmet off but enough already. We don't win this game without him and he pretty clearly toughed it out in a game where he was pretty banged up.


100%
I would hopefully raise my son  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2016 2:54 pm : link
to be more subdued in his celebration but that's irrelevant. As a football fan I'm not so pious or self-righteous I care or find it reprehensible for a player to express himself however he wants within the rules.

I had a problem with the over-aggression when it took him out of his game or resulted in penalties and I'd have a problem with a celebration that results in a penalty but otherwise, after a TD, do whatever the rules allow. And between the lines go 100%, but stay within the rules.

I don't care for the raucous displays after a sack or some first downs, but I am a fan of players who have emotion when they can display it in a manner not detrimental to the team.
I hate that he got the penalty ...  
Beezer : 10/17/2016 2:55 pm : link
it was a stupid move.

But the guy was MUCH more amped up after we got completely fucking raped by Jeff Effin Triplette the possession prior.

I can forgive him today because we got the W.

Still hoping for less idiotic and downright weird (the net) behavior.
RE: It's no different than any other era  
Route 9 : 10/17/2016 2:55 pm : link
In comment 13178509 Go Terps said:
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Players acted like idiots in the 80s too.


From what I gather, everyone acted like idiots in the 80s
RE: RE: Let me guess...you are old school guy, like my dad  
Gatorade Dunk : 10/17/2016 2:55 pm : link
In comment 13178217 DC Gmen Fan said:
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In comment 13178204 Neckbone1333 said:


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who hates any celebration

I don't like OBJ removing his helmet or the corny shit with the kicking net, but who cares about the other shit.

So Cruz pointed that he got a first down. OBJ did a triple jump. I hope I see 20 more Triple Jumps this season from him.




Yes I'm old school in that I have more respect for players who aren't all about "me me me". If that bothers you about me than so be it.

Do you realize how "me me me" you're being right now? It's all about YOUR enjoyment, YOUR respect, etc.

Everyone is "me me me" - it's a fact of life. You only ever get to experience your life, one time, as you. Get over it.
RE: I would hopefully raise my son  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13178515 pjcas18 said:
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to be more subdued in his celebration but that's irrelevant. As a football fan I'm not so pious or self-righteous I care or find it reprehensible for a player to express himself however he wants within the rules.

I had a problem with the over-aggression when it took him out of his game or resulted in penalties and I'd have a problem with a celebration that results in a penalty but otherwise, after a TD, do whatever the rules allow. And between the lines go 100%, but stay within the rules.

I don't care for the raucous displays after a sack or some first downs, but I am a fan of players who have emotion when they can display it in a manner not detrimental to the team.



Very well said
RE: RE: RE: Let me guess...you are old school guy, like my dad  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13178520 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13178217 DC Gmen Fan said:


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In comment 13178204 Neckbone1333 said:


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who hates any celebration

I don't like OBJ removing his helmet or the corny shit with the kicking net, but who cares about the other shit.

So Cruz pointed that he got a first down. OBJ did a triple jump. I hope I see 20 more Triple Jumps this season from him.




Yes I'm old school in that I have more respect for players who aren't all about "me me me". If that bothers you about me than so be it.


Do you realize how "me me me" you're being right now? It's all about YOUR enjoyment, YOUR respect, etc.

Everyone is "me me me" - it's a fact of life. You only ever get to experience your life, one time, as you. Get over it.



Yeah well my "me me me" isn't going to get a penalty against my team.
RE: It's no different than any other era  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/17/2016 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13178509 Go Terps said:
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Players acted like idiots in the 80s too.


Blame it on cocaine.

I'm in favor of saving the sport from earring wearing losers like these dopes...
RE: Just curious  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 3:01 pm : link
In comment 13178483 DC Gmen Fan said:
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for all those defending his antics, if it were your son at a high school (or any level) game doing these shenanigans, would you sit back and laugh it off? Or would you be embarrassed for him (and you)?


I guess they all missed your post.

I recall some of our posters ripped Terell "get your popcorn ready" Owens despite his antics.

Thank goodness the passionate Mark Gastineau wasn't a Giant.
Sorry about the pic size  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/17/2016 3:02 pm : link
...
Yep  
jeff57 : 10/17/2016 3:14 pm : link
Mike is right. It shouldn't be a look at me distraction. It should be about the team.
He's right  
jeff57 : 10/17/2016 3:16 pm : link
out of curiosity, and because i didn't want to start another thread  
ron mexico : 10/17/2016 3:16 pm : link
Its not possible to get a taunting penalty during a play, right? Like on OBJ's first TD.
RE: 8 catches, 222 yards, 2 TD's...  
SethFromAstoria : 10/17/2016 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13178505 arcarsenal said:
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...including a game-winning and potentially season saving catch and run TD.. and this is what we're talking about.

Not only that.. but if anyone actually listened to anything he had to say afterwards, all he did was praise his QB and give him all the credit and call it a team win.

He's been under endless scrutiny and he's an emotional kid. He made the biggest play of the game and was pretty gassed up. Shouldn't have taken the helmet off but enough already. We don't win this game without him and he pretty clearly toughed it out in a game where he was pretty banged up.


this is exactly right. Not to mention the amount of times the team wants to put it to bed and say they love their player more than they give a fuck about the media. And they refuse to allow that to be the end of it.
The people defending Beckham's behavior  
jeff57 : 10/17/2016 3:19 pm : link
Would have a fit if an opposing player did that.
RE: Just curious  
RC02XX : 10/17/2016 3:31 pm : link
In comment 13178483 DC Gmen Fan said:
Quote:
for all those defending his antics, if it were your son at a high school (or any level) game doing these shenanigans, would you sit back and laugh it off? Or would you be embarrassed for him (and you)?


The last time I checked, high school football wasn't considered entertainment industry as much as it's scholastic/athletic activity. I mean, if you want to compare an entertainer to a student athlete, we can do that all day. But you're comparing apples to oranges.
RE: RE: Proposing to a kicking net  
RC02XX : 10/17/2016 3:37 pm : link
In comment 13178480 DC Gmen Fan said:
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In comment 13178451 nicky43 said:


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was the most embarrassing thing I ever saw a football player do in a celebration but there have been a lot of other whoppers from many players. It was hard to watch that with all the cameras on him. Big deal. He caught a good pass and ran to the End zone as expected of a player of his talent level and his salary. He did his extremely high paid job.

I don't mean to pick on OBJ because I get upset with all the silly shenanigans and after play celebrations by so many of the players. It's as though the real competition is not the game as much as who has a better after play celebration. Very sad.

Now, I know many of you youngins out there won't understand the level of disgust I have for this kind of garbage and that's ok but I grew up watching the game played by mature men who would never have embarrassed their team and themselves with such childish me me me antics. Back then they wore ties to the game and all had short hair and looked like a professional team. Back then the fans and journalists would have mocked them if they tried this silly stuff.

Now they wear earrings and long hair and 40 pounds of expensive jewelry and many of the fans seem to enjoy the antics. It just makes me think how much the world has changed from the one I grew up in. So I don't really blame OBJ or any of the players who do these things. It's just a sign of the times, albeit, a sad sign for me and it reminds me how old I am.







Good post but be prepared for the onslaught from the gallery..."you're no fun" "get off my lawn" "down in front"


Blah blah blah...oh no, the world is changing for the worse, and all because of us youngins. Give me a goddamn break. The world was just as fucked up when you were young, dude. Except during that time they discriminated far more...but hey, it was so much better back when you were young, huh? Get over yourselves.
he also has to be careful  
TeamSchlitz1 : 10/17/2016 3:39 pm : link
I could be wrong but if you taunt someone at the 15 yard line isn't that supposed to be brought back from that point, wiping out the TD? Or is that just a college rule?

RE: RE: Just curious  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 3:39 pm : link
In comment 13178610 RC02XX said:
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In comment 13178483 DC Gmen Fan said:


Quote:


for all those defending his antics, if it were your son at a high school (or any level) game doing these shenanigans, would you sit back and laugh it off? Or would you be embarrassed for him (and you)?



The last time I checked, high school football wasn't considered entertainment industry as much as it's scholastic/athletic activity. I mean, if you want to compare an entertainer to a student athlete, we can do that all day. But you're comparing apples to oranges.


Must have taken a while to think up that zinger without answering the question
RE: The people defending Beckham's behavior  
RC02XX : 10/17/2016 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13178571 jeff57 said:
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Would have a fit if an opposing player did that.


Of course we would. But that's being a fan.

Seriously, some of you people are taking football way too seriously. It's a damn entertainment. It doesn't indicate anything beyond the evolution of our sports entertainment industry. It doesn't mean our society is somehow going down the tube or whatever some of you blowhards like to believe. Your generations had just as many warts as the current generations.
RE: he also has to be careful  
RC02XX : 10/17/2016 3:41 pm : link
In comment 13178636 TeamSchlitz1 said:
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I could be wrong but if you taunt someone at the 15 yard line isn't that supposed to be brought back from that point, wiping out the TD? Or is that just a college rule?


No...they talked about this on TV. It would be a post-score foul like the one OBJ got after his second TD.
might just be in college but  
TeamSchlitz1 : 10/17/2016 3:41 pm : link
thought he was gunna get one on that first TD for throwing up a peace sign at the db chasing him. Which I laughed at along with his td dance.

And I despise Beckham for that late penalty. I'm 29, hardly in the get off my lawn crowd. Have your fun ODB, but when it costs the team it's too far.

Also, for those suggesting that ODB was being targeted on that call or it shouldn't have been a penalty cause he was one step out of the end zone. LOL, get a clue. 100% a penalty every single time, no matter who does it.
old man yells at cloud gif  
mattlawson : 10/17/2016 3:42 pm : link
at this point - he's trolling the media and their attention on the initial net thing. it's become ridiculous - Dan Lebotard spent some time on this today basically saying it wasnt clever enough.

Its not supposed to be - he's basically forcing the media to cover their own ridiculous story now.

its a troll job. Lebotard tried to troll the troll today. didnt happen.

...  
ilikethenygiants : 10/17/2016 3:43 pm : link
Francesca isn't totally wrong, but his act really is so old. He just harps on one thing all day, as if people actually care that much. In my mind, his retirement from wfan can't come soon enough.
RE: RE: RE: Just curious  
RC02XX : 10/17/2016 3:45 pm : link
In comment 13178638 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 13178610 RC02XX said:


Quote:


In comment 13178483 DC Gmen Fan said:


Quote:


for all those defending his antics, if it were your son at a high school (or any level) game doing these shenanigans, would you sit back and laugh it off? Or would you be embarrassed for him (and you)?



The last time I checked, high school football wasn't considered entertainment industry as much as it's scholastic/athletic activity. I mean, if you want to compare an entertainer to a student athlete, we can do that all day. But you're comparing apples to oranges.



Must have taken a while to think up that zinger without answering the question


The question doesn't warrant an answer because it's a stupid question stemming from a shitty comparison.

Better question would be..."if your son played in the NFL and did what OBJ did, would you be ok with it?"

And my answer to that would be if he was enjoying the game, didn't try to injure other players (like his actions during the Carolina game last season, which we all agree was unacceptable), and stayed out of trouble off the field, then why would I care?
RE: might just be in college but  
RC02XX : 10/17/2016 3:50 pm : link
In comment 13178649 TeamSchlitz1 said:
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And I despise Beckham for that late penalty. I'm 29, hardly in the get off my lawn crowd. Have your fun ODB, but when it costs the team it's too far.


The question is...how deep is your love for OBJ when he scored a 66 yard TD on not such a good pass by Eli? I mean, if you despise him for that penalty, at least you have to love him for taking the short pass to the house and putting us in a potential winning position no?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Just curious  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13178658 RC02XX said:
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In comment 13178638 Giants2012 said:


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In comment 13178610 RC02XX said:


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In comment 13178483 DC Gmen Fan said:


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for all those defending his antics, if it were your son at a high school (or any level) game doing these shenanigans, would you sit back and laugh it off? Or would you be embarrassed for him (and you)?



The last time I checked, high school football wasn't considered entertainment industry as much as it's scholastic/athletic activity. I mean, if you want to compare an entertainer to a student athlete, we can do that all day. But you're comparing apples to oranges.



Must have taken a while to think up that zinger without answering the question



The question doesn't warrant an answer because it's a stupid question stemming from a shitty comparison.

Better question would be..."if your son played in the NFL and did what OBJ did, would you be ok with it?"

And my answer to that would be if he was enjoying the game, didn't try to injure other players (like his actions during the Carolina game last season, which we all agree was unacceptable), and stayed out of trouble off the field, then why would I care?


SO you attack someone's generation without even knowing how old someone is? Or you call names because someone has an opposing viewpoint? Classy bro.
There are at least..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/17/2016 3:53 pm : link
three posters who have jumped on Beckham for his attention whoring who defended Cam Newton last year for just wanting to "have fun".

I'd respect it much more if people were just like Go Terps and showed equal disdain or just looked at both guys as having fun out there.
RE: RE: The people defending Beckham's behavior  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2016 3:53 pm : link
In comment 13178642 RC02XX said:
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It doesn't mean our society is somehow going down the tube or whatever some of you blowhards like to believe.


Well, it is, but not because of Odell Beckham's touchdown celebrations.
RE: old man yells at cloud gif  
Eman11 : 10/17/2016 3:53 pm : link
In comment 13178654 mattlawson said:
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at this point - he's trolling the media and their attention on the initial net thing. it's become ridiculous - Dan Lebotard spent some time on this today basically saying it wasnt clever enough.

Its not supposed to be - he's basically forcing the media to cover their own ridiculous story now.

its a troll job. Lebotard tried to troll the troll today. didnt happen.


I comepletely agree with you on OBJ trolling the media. It's hilarious to me they're falling for it, and there are actually guys asking him questions about it.

I also find it funny and so ironic the Pope comes on today going off on the kicking net thing and the media for covering it, yet spends two fucking hours doing the EXACT same thing.
RE: You look like a jackass with these double posts  
section125 : 10/17/2016 3:55 pm : link
In comment 13178373 Bold Ruler said:
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;)


Bold, you hitting the sauce early today....You're posting some funny shyte and busting some gnads.......
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Just curious  
RC02XX : 10/17/2016 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13178672 DC Gmen Fan said:
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SO you attack someone's generation without even knowing how old someone is? Or you call names because someone has an opposing viewpoint? Classy bro.


Honestly, I couldn't care less about your age or anyone else for that matter. But the moment people start posting about how good it was in the good old days and how the times have changed for the worse and all the other happy bullshit, I'll call you (and anyone else on it).

And yes, I keep it real classy.
RE: Just curious  
section125 : 10/17/2016 3:59 pm : link
In comment 13178483 DC Gmen Fan said:
Quote:
for all those defending his antics, if it were your son at a high school (or any level) game doing these shenanigans, would you sit back and laugh it off? Or would you be embarrassed for him (and you)?


If he was making $2.5 million, he could moon the refs for all I'd care.

I'm definitely old school and the net thing cracks me up. The helmet was over the top because of the 15 yds, but the rest, WRATGAS.
Icky shuffle? Dirty Bird? Billy white shoe?  
map7711 : 10/17/2016 4:01 pm : link
Fun bunch? Stuff been going on for years.
Icky shuffle? Dirty Bird? Billy white shoe?  
map7711 : 10/17/2016 4:02 pm : link
Fun bunch? Stuff been going on for years.
I never said it was better in the good ole days  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 4:04 pm : link
I'm under 40 so I don't even know what the good old days are. I stated my opinion that I think the over the top celebrations are too narcissistic and will eventually cost the team through penalty or injury. Spare me the "oh he's just having fun" or the "he's young". You can have fun without looking like an assclown.

And yes before you hit me with the usual garbage line, I am happy-no, thrilled- to have OBJ on our team. I just wish he would act like a professional football player and not a prima donna.
RE: Just curious  
section125 : 10/17/2016 4:04 pm : link
In comment 13178483 DC Gmen Fan said:
Quote:
for all those defending his antics, if it were your son at a high school (or any level) game doing these shenanigans, would you sit back and laugh it off? Or would you be embarrassed for him (and you)?


If he was making $2.5 mill, I wouldn't care if he mooned the refs.
WRATGAS
Finest offensive talent  
Kyle in NY : 10/17/2016 4:07 pm : link
this franchise has ever seen, who plays his ass off, and says just about all the right things to the media. Who also just saved our season yesterday with an amazing performance while playing hurt. And so many just want to complain because he doesn't celebrate the way you prefer.

Antonio Brown, one of the few WRs on Odell's talent level, is twerking after every TD, knowing full well that he will get a penalty and cost his team 15 yards, and I never hear a word about it in the media. This has gotten completely out of hand.
I have no problem with OBJ yesterday  
Vanzetti : 10/17/2016 4:08 pm : link
other than taking off his helmet


Proposing to the net was great. It takes what was an embarrassing moment for him--kicking the net--and turns it into something fun and shows he can make fun of himself
Believe me there are plenty  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 4:10 pm : link
of Steelers Fans who are disgusted with his antics.
HILARIOUS  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/17/2016 4:11 pm : link
RE: Icky shuffle? Dirty Bird? Billy white shoe?  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 4:16 pm : link
In comment 13178709 map7711 said:
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Fun bunch? Stuff been going on for years.


Icky Shuffle was sent to the sidelines or was a penalty while the fun bunch was disallowed or a penalty. Did Beckham get a penalty? All Beckham had to do is not take his helmet off. Apparently, that was too much to ask.
Francesca's obsession with Shockey is strange.  
drkenneth : 10/17/2016 4:41 pm : link
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Francesca's obsession with Shockey is strange.  
drkenneth : 10/17/2016 4:47 pm : link
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heard a little more of Mike driving home  
mfsd : 10/17/2016 4:57 pm : link
and he made another good point - one day, OBJ will look back and be pretty embarrassed by some of the stuff he's pulled
Get it together BBI  
chris r : 10/17/2016 5:00 pm : link
174 posts on this TMZ like thread?

Where's the real football talk?
Funny how all America's Team fans are chiming in about Odell  
micky : 10/17/2016 5:02 pm : link
and "what a piece of crap individual he is" and "How he's a total me me me person".


funny they don't mind a one "dez bryant"
for those saying you dont like beckham and his antics  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 5:03 pm : link
were you cheering for him as he scored the first td? were you cheering for him as he scored the game winner?

Blandino's comment is crap  
BJ Slade : 10/17/2016 5:03 pm : link
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In either case he also said Beckham yelled something at the ref as he ran past him and could have been flagged for either.


Unless he can tell me that Beckham said something so horrifying that a flag was warranted, I don't buy that Beckham turning to an official and saying something could have been called. Did anyone see Atlanta's coach react after the missed PI near the end of that game? I thought he was going to burst a blood vessel. No flag there.
In a league that currently or recently has had players who are  
JerryNYG : 10/17/2016 5:03 pm : link
serial rapists, gang members, child abusers, woman abusers, drug addicts, drunk drivers, and every other kind of miserable piece of shit imaginable...

Is OBJ really that big of a problem? Give me a break.
and stop with the if he was on another team we would be making fun of  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 5:05 pm : link
of course we would because we are not a fan of that team...

giants fans cant handle having the diva wide receiver on their team, if the giants win a super bowl with him everyone who is criticizing him would then love him because the team won a super bowl...

this is the same fan base that didnt like eli because he didnt show emotion
giants fans cant handle having the diva wide receiver on their team  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 5:07 pm : link
but if the giants win the superbowl everyone will love him because the giants won...

and of course we would hate him if he was on anothet team, that is what fans do they love their player and hate opposing team players...

giants cant handle having the bad guy on their team
I know a lot of people have found it to be quite entertaining  
baadbill : 10/17/2016 5:33 pm : link
In comment 13178412 RC02XX said:
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As far as the net thing goes, it's silly, but it's become a source of entertainment for his fans. You don't have to enjoy it, but I know a lot of people have found it to be quite entertaining.



Seriously? You know A LOT of people who find it funny? I'm curious, how many are over the age of 10?
LOL  
Bluesbreaker : 10/17/2016 5:57 pm : link
RE: RE: The people defending Beckham's behavior
Greg from LI : 3:53 pm : link : reply
In comment 13178642 RC02XX said:
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It doesn't mean our society is somehow going down the tube or whatever some of you blowhards like to believe.


Well, it is, but not because of Odell Beckham's touchdown celebrations.

The triple jump was a bit much and I hope he cans that
routine . But he was Clearly Off the field when he
removed his helmet .
That was a Bull Shit Call that Looks Like someone had
a lot of Money to lose on this game .
Jeff Effin Triplette should be questioned and Investigated .
RE: heard a little more of Mike driving home  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2016 6:00 pm : link
In comment 13178848 mfsd said:
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and he made another good point - one day, OBJ will look back and be pretty embarrassed by some of the stuff he's pulled


Just like 9/10 human beings looking back on their lives.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Just curious  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 6:03 pm : link
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SO you attack someone's generation without even knowing how old someone is? Or you call names because someone has an opposing viewpoint? Classy bro.



Honestly, I couldn't care less about your age or anyone else for that matter. But the moment people start posting about how good it was in the good old days and how the times have changed for the worse and all the other happy bullshit, I'll call you (and anyone else on it).

And yes, I keep it real classy.


Last i check the days are current and our jackass of a receiver got a penalty b/c he broke a rule on his way to beginning his "look at me show" while other receivers haven't been flagged b/c they kept their helmets on.


RE: Blandino's comment is crap  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2016 6:04 pm : link
In comment 13178868 BJ Slade said:
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In either case he also said Beckham yelled something at the ref as he ran past him and could have been flagged for either.



Unless he can tell me that Beckham said something so horrifying that a flag was warranted, I don't buy that Beckham turning to an official and saying something could have been called. Did anyone see Atlanta's coach react after the missed PI near the end of that game? I thought he was going to burst a blood vessel. No flag there.


Like I said when I shared it, I was sharing not defending.
Francesca's great rant  
johnboyw : 10/17/2016 6:37 pm : link
Well, first of all if there's a bigger blowhard than Francesa I haven't seen him. That said, I'll say two more things about Beckham. First, the positive. He's an enormously gifted player who, as he showed on Sunday, can win games by himself. Most talented receiver the Giants have ever had and probably will ever have. And now the negative. An immature, self absorbed, egomaniac who needs to be reigned in fast before he costs them a game or worse. Somebody better do it fast too. Sick of watching him embarrass himself and the team.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Just curious  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 6:41 pm : link
In comment 13178996 Giants2012 said:
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SO you attack someone's generation without even knowing how old someone is? Or you call names because someone has an opposing viewpoint? Classy bro.



Honestly, I couldn't care less about your age or anyone else for that matter. But the moment people start posting about how good it was in the good old days and how the times have changed for the worse and all the other happy bullshit, I'll call you (and anyone else on it).

And yes, I keep it real classy.



Last i check the days are current and our jackass of a receiver got a penalty b/c he broke a rule on his way to beginning his "look at me show" while other receivers haven't been flagged b/c they kept their helmets on.



were you cheering for beckham when he scored the first td or the game winner?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Just curious  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 6:47 pm : link
In comment 13179045 nygiants16 said:
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were you cheering for beckham when he scored the first td or the game winner?


We're you laughing at his marriage proposal after being flagged?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Just curious  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 6:50 pm : link
In comment 13179048 Giants2012 said:
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were you cheering for beckham when he scored the first td or the game winner?



We're you laughing at his marriage proposal after being flagged?


i ignored it, thats stuff doesnt bother me, the flag bothered me but the giants won so in the end who cares...

this stuff has been going on forever, you just hate it because he is on your team...


is your lawrence taylore your favorite player?
and stop ignoring the question  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 6:53 pm : link
were you cheering for him?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Just curious  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 6:54 pm : link
In comment 13179050 nygiants16 said:
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were you cheering for beckham when he scored the first td or the game winner?



We're you laughing at his marriage proposal after being flagged?



i ignored it, thats stuff doesnt bother me, the flag bothered me but the giants won so in the end who cares...

this stuff has been going on forever, you just hate it because he is on your team...


is your lawrence taylore your favorite player?


So that's how it works? Had the Giants lost you would have a problem yet no problem since they won. Talk about livng for the moment. Do you live paycheck to paycheck too? No thought of the future in which the Giants could lose due to his stupidity? Let me guess, all this hoopla is just the media and paranoid fans right? Give it a rest and his name is Lawrence Taylor. Drawing any comparrison between the two is just assinine so dave the BS
Pretty asinine to be concerned about  
eclipz928 : 10/17/2016 7:07 pm : link
Odell Beckham someday costing the Giants a game when he literally is the only reason why the Giants have even been competitive in their games for 2+ seasons.
Pretty asinine to be concerned about  
eclipz928 : 10/17/2016 7:08 pm : link
Odell Beckham someday costing the Giants a game when he literally is the only reason why the Giants have even been competitive in their games for 2+ seasons.
RE: Pretty asinine to be concerned about  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13179066 eclipz928 said:
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Odell Beckham someday costing the Giants a game when he literally is the only reason why the Giants have even been competitive in their games for 2+ seasons.


Pretty asinine to dismiss the penalty and think it won't happen again and someday won't cost the Giants. His massive distraction against the Panthers last year put the team in a 35-7 hole they never climbed out of.

Anybody confusing his talent with discipline, which apparently you are, really doesn't get it. Call out the coach's comment too. You must know more than him too.
I find the salsa dance a thousand times more douchebag-like  
Bill L : 10/17/2016 7:23 pm : link
Than anything Odell did yesterday. But Fox and ESPN and y'all lap it up like a kitten with a saucer of milk.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2016 7:30 pm : link
They actually did climb out of that hole.

Because of Beckham.

The defense should have taken him out for a beer for covering them from criticism that week.
RE: I find the salsa dance a thousand times more douchebag-like  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 7:30 pm : link
In comment 13179086 Bill L said:
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Than anything Odell did yesterday. But Fox and ESPN and y'all lap it up like a kitten with a saucer of milk.


The flag says otherwise or can you really not tell the difference in circumstances including the score and time on the clock? Amazing
RE: .  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 7:33 pm : link
In comment 13179099 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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They actually did climb out of that hole.

Because of Beckham.

The defense should have taken him out for a beer for covering them from criticism that week.


They lost. Ever think the Panther took the foot off the gas up 35-7 or do really think the Giants were just so awesome? When the Panthers hit the gas again, they won.

Hope Beckham old it together this week. If he doesn't, no doubt the clowns will blame the Rams and their coach.
Not to mention nothing happens in a vacuum  
Bill L : 10/17/2016 7:33 pm : link
He was cheap spotted during the game, menaced and physically threatened before the game, and of course people turn blind eyes to homophobic slurs.
RE: RE: I find the salsa dance a thousand times more douchebag-like  
Bill L : 10/17/2016 7:34 pm : link
In comment 13179104 Giants2012 said:
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Than anything Odell did yesterday. But Fox and ESPN and y'all lap it up like a kitten with a saucer of milk.



The flag says otherwise or can you really not tell the difference in circumstances including the score and time on the clock? Amazing
thats tantamount to saying drc almost cost us the game b cause of his pic on perriman
They lost because they were outclassed by the eventual NFC champs  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2016 7:35 pm : link
But you can put that on Beckham all you'd like to.
RE: RE: I find the salsa dance a thousand times more douchebag-like  
Bill L : 10/17/2016 7:36 pm : link
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Than anything Odell did yesterday. But Fox and ESPN and y'all lap it up like a kitten with a saucer of milk.



The flag says otherwise or can you really not tell the difference in circumstances including the score and time on the clock? Amazing
so 15 yards is only Important to you if it comes in the last minute or with that specific score? I say what's really important to you is the specific individual And being able to play pig pile on Monday morning
RE: heard a little more of Mike driving home  
okiegiant : 10/17/2016 7:40 pm : link
In comment 13178848 mfsd said:
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and he made another good point - one day, OBJ will look back and be pretty embarrassed by some of the stuff he's pulled


Or maybe we wont. It's amazing to me how people can continually present opinion as fact. No one here(or any of the God like talking heads who think they're smart and important)are Beckham. No one can say how he's going to feel in the future.

And some of you guys are hilarious. The things you get worked up over! And you want Beckham to be a good little fella and mind his manners during a heated game but you can't even keep your emotions in check discussing him!

RE: RE: RE: I find the salsa dance a thousand times more douchebag-like  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 7:40 pm : link
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Than anything Odell did yesterday. But Fox and ESPN and y'all lap it up like a kitten with a saucer of milk.



The flag says otherwise or can you really not tell the difference in circumstances including the score and time on the clock? Amazing

so 15 yards is only Important to you if it comes in the last minute or with that specific score? I say what's really important to you is the specific individual And being able to play pig pile on Monday morning


Need a hug or are you having a Beckham moment? All the news outlets are saying the same thing and both the coach and QB commented on it today. Dismiss it all and propose to yiur high chair for all i care. You're wrong unless you believe the coach, Qb and entire media are.
. . . all wrong  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 7:41 pm : link
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But if nothing else it's a fascinating look at human nature...  
okiegiant : 10/17/2016 7:43 pm : link
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RE: They lost because they were outclassed by the eventual NFC champs  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13179115 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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But you can put that on Beckham all you'd like to.


You can give him a lifetime pass if you like. Make up every excuse if it makes you feel better.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I find the salsa dance a thousand times more douchebag-like  
Bill L : 10/17/2016 7:44 pm : link
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Than anything Odell did yesterday. But Fox and ESPN and y'all lap it up like a kitten with a saucer of milk.



The flag says otherwise or can you really not tell the difference in circumstances including the score and time on the clock? Amazing

so 15 yards is only Important to you if it comes in the last minute or with that specific score? I say what's really important to you is the specific individual And being able to play pig pile on Monday morning



Need a hug or are you having a Beckham moment? All the news outlets are saying the same thing and both the coach and QB commented on it today. Dismiss it all and propose to yiur high chair for all i care. You're wrong unless you believe the coach, Qb and entire media are.
dont need a hug. Just need you to put down the pitch fork and maybe get some perspective. A bad call in a sea of bad calls yesterday dos not negate that we lose if not for him. But I'm betting that's a preferable outcome if only obj would not be the object of officiating exuberance.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I find the salsa dance a thousand times more douchebag-like  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 7:51 pm : link
In comment 13179145 Bill L said:
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Need a hug or are you having a Beckham moment? All the news outlets are saying the same thing and both the coach and QB commented on it today. Dismiss it all and propose to yiur high chair for all i care. You're wrong unless you believe the coach, Qb and entire media are.

dont need a hug. Just need you to put down the pitch fork and maybe get some perspective. A bad call in a sea of bad calls yesterday dos not negate that we lose if not for him. But I'm betting that's a preferable outcome if only obj would not be the object of officiating exuberance.


Tell the coach and QB to put down the pitch fork. Tell the media. Make sure the dirty Rams show up with a love blanket. He's a great talent yet you people are blind that he's not acting like a diva asshole and the signs/penalties, etc are adding up. When the quiet Qb comments, the coach comments, the media is on him and the opponents clearly know to get under his skin, we might have a problem. Even the kickers net isn't as blind as some here.
giants2012 again answer the questio. which seem to be ignoring  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 7:51 pm : link
were you cheering for beckham yesterday when he scored the game winner?

and i bring up lawrence taylor because he cost his team wins and continues to embarrass the organization...

RE: giants2012 again answer the questio. which seem to be ignoring  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 7:55 pm : link
In comment 13179167 nygiants16 said:
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were you cheering for beckham yesterday when he scored the game winner?

and i bring up lawrence taylor because he cost his team wins and continues to embarrass the organization...


I'm a Giants fan, of course i was cheering for him like everybody. Like most, i swore and wondered what the heck he was doing when i saw the flag and the stupid ceremony without any clue what he just did to the team. He was so self absorbed in his show about ME he didn't think it's a. TEAM.

Bring up Taylor is as dumb as the question you keep asking. His resume speaks for itself and it's obvious you have no idea what you're posting about by bringing his name up and make a connection to OBJ. It's so dumb you make Beckham's move look smart and that's close to impossible.

so if obj wins a championship with complaining  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 7:58 pm : link
that is my point about taylor which you are to stupid to understand...

Taylor is loved by giants fans because he won championships and he is the biggest piece of shit on the planet..

obj is hated by a lot of giants fans because the team has not won with him as the best player..

see what i am trying to get at? the giants fans that hate obj and love lt are hypocrits...
oh and was obj thinking about himself  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 8:00 pm : link
when he came back into the came injured and still put up 200 yards and carried the team to a victory?

was he thinking about himself when he did that?
RE: so if obj wins a championship with complaining  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 8:05 pm : link
In comment 13179182 nygiants16 said:
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that is my point about taylor which you are to stupid to understand...

Taylor is loved by giants fans because he won championships and he is the biggest piece of shit on the planet..

obj is hated by a lot of giants fans because the team has not won with him as the best player..

see what i am trying to get at? the giants fans that hate obj and love lt are hypocrits...


You're an idiot. The connection is f'ing stupid.
RE: oh and was obj thinking about himself  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 8:06 pm : link
In comment 13179185 nygiants16 said:
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when he came back into the came injured and still put up 200 yards and carried the team to a victory?

was he thinking about himself when he did that?


How old are you? You can't be too old if you're posting crap like this about Taylor
how is it stupid?  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 8:08 pm : link
because i called you out on being a hypocrit and you have no come back for it?

If Lawrence Taylor never won a superbowl withe giants you think the giants would still honor him after all the shit he has done?

so again if beckham wins a championship will the people who hate him then love him?
Too bad Arthur Miller is dead  
Bill L : 10/17/2016 8:09 pm : link
There's a plethora of material in this crucible of bbi
RE: RE: oh and was obj thinking about himself  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 8:10 pm : link
In comment 13179199 Giants2012 said:
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when he came back into the came injured and still put up 200 yards and carried the team to a victory?

was he thinking about himself when he did that?



How old are you? You can't be too old if you're posting crap like this about Taylor


why? because i am calling the taylot the piece of shit that he is?
RE: how is it stupid?  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 8:11 pm : link
In comment 13179207 nygiants16 said:
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because i called you out on being a hypocrit and you have no come back for it?

If Lawrence Taylor never won a superbowl withe giants you think the giants would still honor him after all the shit he has done?

so again if beckham wins a championship will the people who hate him then love him?


He hasn't won anything you moron. You must be about 20 years old.

I can't dumb it down to your level. Go sleep with a kickers net and make the connection you're as talented as OBJ too.
it doesnt mean i hate him  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 8:13 pm : link
i recognize his greatness but it doesnt change the kind of person he is...
RE: RE: how is it stupid?  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 8:15 pm : link
In comment 13179214 Giants2012 said:
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because i called you out on being a hypocrit and you have no come back for it?

If Lawrence Taylor never won a superbowl withe giants you think the giants would still honor him after all the shit he has done?

so again if beckham wins a championship will the people who hate him then love him?



He hasn't won anything you moron. You must be about 20 years old.

I can't dumb it down to your level. Go sleep with a kickers net and make the connection you're as talented as OBJ too.



again you moron IF beckham wins a championship will you love him like you do LT...

holy shit is this that hard to understand..

LT won a championship=loved but still a piece of shit...

Beckham has not won=hated, celebrates to much...

so again if beckham wins do you then love him..
is it really that hard to understand what i am asking you?  
nygiants16 : 10/17/2016 8:16 pm : link
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Critics are crazy  
DL_Mechs : 10/18/2016 12:46 am : link
Too much negative emotion is directed at ODB so far this season.

After all the crap he had for showing emotion and hitting the kicking net and having memes and all sorts made about it, and then being told by people that he is crazy, etc. You'd think after he starts finding his range against GB and the Ravens, that he could actually show the funny side of it

It always seems as if it's the ones who never would get close to playing on a football field, that get the most angry about this.

Let the kid play football.
You guys are really bad with comparisons  
ZogZerg : 10/18/2016 7:09 am : link
You can not compare Odell with Taylor for countless reasons. And for you all to go there shows that you are grasping at straws defending how idiotic Odell has been acting. If Odell was on any other team (especially skins, eagles, or boys) the same people defending Odell on this thread would be crucifying him. (Yeah you would.)
all this hand wringing over OBJ  
Shirk130 : 10/18/2016 7:36 am : link
and no one says squat when Antonio Brown pulls the same crap. What he did wasn't smart, but he didn't stomp on anyone's head, or get in anyone's face. He will mature. We all do. In the meantime, he is the only reason this team is the least bit competitive.
and to the kids who have no real idea who LT is,  
Shirk130 : 10/18/2016 7:39 am : link
he isn't loved because he won a championship. He was loved before that. He was loved because he was the best defensive player any of us have ever seen, and he turned the franchise around just by stepping on the field at his first practice.
RE: You guys are really bad with comparisons  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/18/2016 7:48 am : link
In comment 13179612 ZogZerg said:
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You can not compare Odell with Taylor for countless reasons. And for you all to go there shows that you are grasping at straws defending how idiotic Odell has been acting. If Odell was on any other team (especially skins, eagles, or boys) the same people defending Odell on this thread would be crucifying him. (Yeah you would.)



nobody here has ever been bashful about hating rival players because of their uniform.
RE: all this hand wringing over OBJ  
Bill L : 10/18/2016 8:25 am : link
In comment 13179622 Shirk130 said:
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and no one says squat when Antonio Brown pulls the same crap. What he did wasn't smart, but he didn't stomp on anyone's head, or get in anyone's face. He will mature. We all do. In the meantime, he is the only reason this team is the least bit competitive.
There's so much outrage over OBJ being the target of an incorrectly called or questionable at best penalty that cost the team exactly 7 yards. Less than one of the holds and much less than DRC's PI or Wade's PI. And, there was virtually no outrage this year here or in the media, no hype, no nothing about Weston Richburg actually taking himself out of a game. I'd say that hurt the team tangibly and to a much greater extent than anything OBJ has done.
RE: RE: You guys are really bad with comparisons  
Bill L : 10/18/2016 8:27 am : link
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You can not compare Odell with Taylor for countless reasons. And for you all to go there shows that you are grasping at straws defending how idiotic Odell has been acting. If Odell was on any other team (especially skins, eagles, or boys) the same people defending Odell on this thread would be crucifying him. (Yeah you would.)




nobody here has ever been bashful about hating rival players because of their uniform.
The logic makes no sense because, carrying it through, there is absolutely no reason then to hate Tony Romo...but we do. Or any Eagle. Redskin, Cowboy, whatever (except maybe Dez).

RE: and to the kids who have no real idea who LT is,  
nygiants16 : 10/18/2016 8:32 am : link
In comment 13179625 Shirk130 said:
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he isn't loved because he won a championship. He was loved before that. He was loved because he was the best defensive player any of us have ever seen, and he turned the franchise around just by stepping on the field at his first practice.


so you are willing to look the other way because of what he did for the giants, isnt that being hypocritical?
Will the millennial  
Giants2012 : 10/18/2016 9:26 am : link
Name what Taylor did wrong on the field during his first three years? What Taylor did to label him a distraction, take cheap shots, celebrate himself over the team etc? The straw position includes his entire lifetime against a player of 2.3 years and plays the asinine hypocrite card without even knowing the stadium was practically extinct of #56 Jerseys after the alleged rape.

Great job. Like OBJ, maybe you will learn someday yet not off to a promising start.
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