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I just sent this message to Jeff Triplette on LinkedIn

Neckbone1333 : 10/17/2016 5:07 pm
Let me start off by saying I respect the time you served our country and thank you for that.

I am a lifelong Giants fan and my family has had season tickets for over 50 years. This game and this team are not only something for us to watch, it is a huge part of our family.

I have seen many badly officiated games as you have I am sure, but I would love to know what happened to you and your crew yesterday during the Giants/Ravens game. It was an awful effort and if I were to perform that way in my occupation, I would either be fired or written up.

It was not the fact that you missed several obvious calls and no-calls (PI on DRC, Non-PI on Lewis in the endzone, and that the player was down by contact after the interception), it was the fact that you are the leader of the group, with the right to veto any call, and you still weren't able to lead.

I am wondering today, if you had a chance to look at the film, and if you clearly see what we all saw as well? Acknowledgement of your crew's horrendous officiating would be the right thing to do. Retiring from the NFL would be better.

Regards,
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RE: .  
Montreal Man : 10/18/2016 7:55 am : link
In comment 13178942 Rob in CT/NYC said:
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Harassment covers a wide range of behaviours of an offensive nature. It is commonly understood as behaviour intended to disturb or upset.

By your own admission you said you wanted to cause him discomfort?


And so what? Any criticism, by nature, causes discomfort. If it did that for Triplette, good. People who make big and bad decisions should be called on it. It happens in almost every other profession.
I can't believe  
hassan : 10/18/2016 8:19 am : link
How many of you are ok with this?

He's in the public eye. Criticizing him is absolutely fair game. Writing the league is absolutely fair and a more effective way to do this.

Sending him a note to a personal email mocking him and asking him to resign is simply a childish vent. If the intention was to really get a meaningful dialogue how about asking for a justification for the questionable calls? And more respect than asking a man to quit his job?

Because the letter is not being straightforward.

If it was just to vent better off with the straightforward Twitter fuck off.
Montreal man  
hassan : 10/18/2016 8:21 am : link
In fact I'm sure he won't read the LinkedIn email. Sure his box is littered with them.
Hassan... I appreciate your passionate dialogue  
Neckbone1333 : 10/18/2016 8:30 am : link
Good to see someone speaking their mind.

In my horrible "mockery" of him, it does seem that I did request some answers or justification.

"Acknowledgement of your crew's horrendous officiating would be the right thing to do."

But it's OK if you skip that part
Also, I'm sure the NFL would read my letter because  
Neckbone1333 : 10/18/2016 8:31 am : link
Their inbox is surely not flooded
That Neckbone  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/18/2016 8:33 am : link
He's True Blue!!!
haha...gidie  
Neckbone1333 : 10/18/2016 8:38 am : link
No doubt

I drive up from Baltimore and get to the stadium by 6am to set up a tailgate, and then drive home after the game. Thank god we won.

The last thing I would want to think about would be if we lost because of that call.

The time invested as a fan justifies the comments I made.
It's  
Joeguido : 10/18/2016 8:38 am : link
something. I'm glad someone said something. The Lewis non call had me fuming then the INT because of contact and top the game off with that PI call on DRC was crazy.
And to write to the NFL is the same as writing to someone's boss  
Neckbone1333 : 10/18/2016 8:39 am : link
without confronting them first about it. Is it better to do that?
Neckbone  
hassan : 10/18/2016 8:42 am : link
If you were looking for actual response from him I would suggest the following:

Don't mention you are a Giants fan. The discussion comes across as your having a bias. I'd even find a questionable call or two the other way and ask about that.

Don't ask him to resign......I'm sure you would not take well to someone saying you suck at your job. Not a way to get someone talking. A way to get someone defensive and pissed off.

Neckbone  
hassan : 10/18/2016 8:46 am : link
I did not skip your questions. In fact what makes the note come across as a vent. You ask but say he should be fired at the end of the email.

You have contradictory questions combined with a fairly strong insult combined in one email. That won't get you any answers.
Actually..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2016 8:47 am : link
it is a form of harassment. You aren't a friend or a colleague. You're just some schmuck whose favorite football team was reffed by Triplette and you think it is OK if you message him about it.

It has the same impact as some random Nigerian emailing about an inheritance.
Zoinks route9!  
trueblueinpw : 10/18/2016 8:48 am : link
Dial it back brother. I would hate to imagine your wishes for Triplette if we lost that game. Yikes!
I have mixed feelings  
Mike in NY : 10/18/2016 8:48 am : link
1) While NFL officials should not be immune from public scrutiny, there are points in the letter where the original poster comes off sounding as any call against the Giants is wrong.

2) Many of the calls that have deservedly gotten the most negative publicity were by others on his crew (LJ and deep wing officials FJ/SJ/BJ), there are aspects where Triplette could be blamed. On the DRC PI call he should have huddled the officials to hear what everyone saw. I don't want officials calling games differently when it is late in the game because then you get things like the Richard Sherman DPI non-call which are equally wrong, but I do not have an issue getting everyone together to make sure that everybody who had eyes on the play can voice their opinion.

3) The flags thrown by Jeff Triplette himself all appeared to be justified.

4) With the replay review, it is impossible to know what Dean Blandino, Alberto Riveron and company were chirping in from New York replay bunker. That will never be made public (unless they try to throw Triplette under the bus and he says something). If I am a referee and I see conclusive visual evidence to overturn the call on the field, but my supervisors, who determine 1) my grading for the game/season and 2) if I retain my job, are telling me there isn't and to stay with the call on the field am I really going to go against my supervisors?
Fmic  
hassan : 10/18/2016 8:56 am : link
Is 100 pct right. LinkedIn certainly not the right forum.

In fact you have no implicit right as a fan to seek a correspondence with him on a personal level. It's harassment the more I think about it; beyond a misguided attempt at a dialogue...
thanks, Hassan  
Neckbone1333 : 10/18/2016 8:56 am : link
Fired? or ask him to retire?

Make sure we hit the details
aww...thanks hassan  
Neckbone1333 : 10/18/2016 8:59 am : link
I will make sure to sit and reflect about all that you have said.

You too, FMIC. This has been an eye-opening experience for me.



You don't need to sit and reflect...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2016 9:02 am : link
you should just stop messaging people on Linkedin that you don't know.

Reflection or meditation isn't going to magically give you some self-awareness.
So stop messaging people I don't know on LinkedIn?  
Neckbone1333 : 10/18/2016 9:07 am : link
You know that's exactly how the site works… Right?

Were you..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2016 9:12 am : link
offering him a fucking job? Or connecting about potential jobs?

That's the way the site works.
Self aware:  
Neckbone1333 : 10/18/2016 9:12 am : link
knowledge and awareness of your own personality or character

Yup, I think I'm I good here, FMIC...but definitely thanks for the suggestion.
ehh  
UConn4523 : 10/18/2016 9:13 am : link
I think this is poor taste. Funny? Maybe, but nothing I'd ever spend my time doing because it won't result in anything.

LinkedIn is a professional portal for professionals to contact each other for information, networking, and job opportunities. Dropping a snarky email about how a guy should be fired is pretty tasteless, IMO.
Actually neckbone  
hassan : 10/18/2016 9:14 am : link
It's clear you don't get it. Retire or fired whatever ...... Becoming clear your email was just a chance for you to take a shot you did not want a real interaction or for questions to be answered.......as most of the generally smart posters already said more eloquently than I.

LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2016 9:14 am : link
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Yup, I think I'm I good here, FMIC.


Yet this isn't quite turning out for you the way you hoped when you posted it, is it?
FMIC...  
Neckbone1333 : 10/18/2016 9:15 am : link
It's a shame that you think that's all LinkedIn is for...try to be more creative.

It's a connection mechanism which has gotten me a lot of things that normally I wouldn't of gotten hadn't I reached out.

You should try it sometime.
weirdest use of LinkedIn ever.  
Heisenberg : 10/18/2016 9:16 am : link
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It definitely is turning out the way I thought and hoped  
Neckbone1333 : 10/18/2016 9:19 am : link
Did you think I would expect all positive responses. I've been on here long enough and appreciate everyone being honest. I love dialogue, and never mind confrontation or making things a little uncomfortable.

I love this site and what Eric has created. Where else can you get so many points of view within a matter of minutes from a bunch of people who have one main thing in common?

It is a connection mechanism  
UConn4523 : 10/18/2016 9:20 am : link
but its supposed to be tactful and respectful. A nice piece of hate mail doesn't really qualify as a "connection".
Again with the awareness..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2016 9:20 am : link
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It's a connection mechanism which has gotten me a lot of things that normally I wouldn't of gotten hadn't I reached out


The only thing this has gotten you is shit. Exactly what result did you think would happen and since you use LinkedIn as a "connection mechanism", exactly what connection were you trying to make?

You sound like a pissed off fan using a professional board to contact the guy who pissed you off. Exactly how is that what LinkedIn is used for?

And by the way, my last two positions have come from networking off LinkedIn, so I'm pretty sure I can manage it pretty well.
lol  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/18/2016 9:22 am : link
we have people sending referees snarky messages on LinkedIn, but it's Odell Beckham who has to keep his emotions in check.
I thought LinkedIn was purely about business networking  
Bill L : 10/18/2016 9:23 am : link
as opposed to a social interaction.

If so, then the forum you chose was inappropriate.

Personally, I thought the letter lacked maturity. If you felt the need to dialogue with him, you could have done it in a respectful fashion. He might...I doubt it, but, you never know...have even responded with explanations. Maybe he might even have done some self-reflection.

Instead, what he got was essentially hate mail. Even if he were to read it, he would dismiss it out of hand.

So really, I think you need to determine what your own objective is in sending the message. Do you want clarity for some of the calls? That letter won't bring it to you because of how you structured it. Do you want to engage with him and have him sympathize with your perspective? That letter won't bring it to you because of how you structured it. DO you just want to vent and call people names? Yeah, maybe you accomplished that. But now you have to deal with Him (if he were to read any of it) and most that you've shared it with, thinking you're a boor.

I just don't see anything positive or productive coming from this. Maybe, I guess, it assuages your personal feelings of outrage, but is it really his job to be your outlet for that?
When I was in college I did the same thing  
aimrocky : 10/18/2016 9:25 am : link
to Ed Hickox (the MLB umpire) after a Yankee game. He had some Umpiring school in FL and his personal email was listed, so I sent him a note saying "why would I pay money to go to take lesson's from you when you're one of the worst at your profession". He actually wrote me back, then finished the email with "since this email is a form of harassment I've sent it to MLB security". At the time I thought it was hilarious, but now that I'm an adult I realize it was over the line and childish.

Triplette's awful, but after Sunday the call left my mind. No need to dwell on it.
It's the emotional response of a  
kicker : 10/18/2016 9:27 am : link
pre-teen.
Oh Well  
Bluesbreaker : 10/18/2016 9:28 am : link
Last night I was pounding Blandino on Twitter ..
After watching the Flag Fest in the Jets game
Jerome Bogar or whatever his name is . He is equally
as bad as Tripping and his crew .Blandino was posting video
clips trying to justify the terrible job his boys
are doing .
RE: lol  
UConn4523 : 10/18/2016 9:30 am : link
In comment 13179750 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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we have people sending referees snarky messages on LinkedIn, but it's Odell Beckham who has to keep his emotions in check.


This has been my biggest argument about the whole Beckham thing. Somehow a 23 year old football player should be held to high standards than people sending hate mail. Which is worse, seeing a guy dance next to a kicking net or receiving hatemail on a professional networking site?
UConn..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2016 9:36 am : link
or vs. players who have been arrested and are shitheads off the field.
If a waiter/waitress  
giantsfan44ab : 10/18/2016 9:39 am : link
Was extremely rude to you and/or would you really just tell your feelings to them if you wanted their performance reviewed or would you tell the manager? Telling them directly likely wouldn't get the point across. Unless you just wanted to fight back and not even bother coming back to the restaurant at all.
should be "and/or cursed you out"  
giantsfan44ab : 10/18/2016 9:40 am : link
.
....  
Overseer : 10/18/2016 9:49 am : link
In comment 13179763 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 13179750 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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we have people sending referees snarky messages on LinkedIn, but it's Odell Beckham who has to keep his emotions in check.

This has been my biggest argument about the whole Beckham thing. Somehow a 23 year old football player should be held to high standards than people sending hate mail. Which is worse, seeing a guy dance next to a kicking net or receiving hatemail on a professional networking site?

Why can’t both be objectionable in their own right, in a separate context? Have either of you read the thread? The OP has been called out many times (justifiably).

It’s astounding this even needs to be pointed out, but Beckham shouldn’t be compared to nettled ham & eggers creeping some guy’s resume.

He should be compared to his NFL peers and most importantly judged on whether his histrionics are hurting (or may in the future hurt) his team. The latter is fully debateable.
debatable*  
Overseer : 10/18/2016 9:49 am : link
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OMG - why don't some of you just notify the FBI  
Jimmy Googs : 10/18/2016 9:50 am : link
to investigate Neckbone already. It was not something I would do either but take it easy.

As if the behavior on this site is the proto-type for generations to follow...
RE: ....  
UConn4523 : 10/18/2016 9:53 am : link
In comment 13179794 Overseer said:
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In comment 13179763 UConn4523 said:


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In comment 13179750 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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we have people sending referees snarky messages on LinkedIn, but it's Odell Beckham who has to keep his emotions in check.

This has been my biggest argument about the whole Beckham thing. Somehow a 23 year old football player should be held to high standards than people sending hate mail. Which is worse, seeing a guy dance next to a kicking net or receiving hatemail on a professional networking site?


Why can’t both be objectionable in their own right, in a separate context? Have either of you read the thread? The OP has been called out many times (justifiably).

It’s astounding this even needs to be pointed out, but Beckham shouldn’t be compared to nettled ham & eggers creeping some guy’s resume.

He should be compared to his NFL peers and most importantly judged on whether his histrionics are hurting (or may in the future hurt) his team. The latter is fully debateable.


My point isn't about what Beckham is doing, which is immature and he does need to grow up (clearly stated countless times now on BBI). Rather, my point is that shithead fans that do dumb shit in their own lives, have some nerve calling out a football player for dancing while he's been a model citizen in every facet of his life outside of a few instances on the field with opposing players.

Its a double standard. I've done stupid shit i'm not proud of; telling Beckham that he's a clown for proposing to a kicking net would be ludicrous for me to say.

As for the OP, sending that on LinkedIn is tasteless.
RE: It's the emotional response of a  
Greg from LI : 10/18/2016 9:56 am : link
In comment 13179760 kicker said:
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pre-teen.


You're too generous - I would have said a toddler.

Although, strictly speaking, I guess a toddler IS pre-teen :)
gotta love  
Les in TO : 10/18/2016 10:08 am : link
jaded fan messages to nfl refs on linkedin. almost as classy and appreciated by the recipient as the random pickup e-mails sent to women with attractive headshots on that platform.
Why the hell has this thread  
Montreal Man : 10/18/2016 10:08 am : link
morphed into a discussion of whether Linked-In is an appropriate channel to express a dissent in this case. And into an attack on the "age" of the poster?

Jesus, we are all pissed about the calls. We bitched and moaned but didn't try to do anything about it -- not that we would have a voice that would reach these guys -- but we didn't try. At least the PO tried and he gets bashed for it because he did it in an "unacceptable" way. It's criticizing the messenger for carrying a legitimate message.
Oh, I dunno. Maybe because I'm emotionally  
kicker : 10/18/2016 10:11 am : link
secure enough to not let a bad call affect my personal life?

To the tune of sending messages to said person's personal account?
...  
Overseer : 10/18/2016 10:11 am : link
In comment 13179801 UConn4523 said:
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My point isn't about what Beckham is doing, which is immature and he does need to grow up (clearly stated countless times now on BBI). Rather, my point is that shithead fans that do dumb shit in their own lives, have some nerve calling out a football player for dancing while he's been a model citizen in every facet of his life outside of a few instances on the field with opposing players.

Its a double standard. I've done stupid shit i'm not proud of; telling Beckham that he's a clown for proposing to a kicking net would be ludicrous for me to say.

If I were a meth dealer who scoffed at adjudicated child support payments and who worshipped David Duke, I would still, as a Giants fan, feel fully comfortable “calling out” Beckham’s histrionics because it’s not about who’s the bigger jackass (in the stated case above, obviously me).

But rather:

“I’m concerned Beckham’s actions are hurting the Giants (like when he got himself suspended after launching his helmet into an opposing player's head) and will continue to do so, especially if it escalates.”

My shittiness as a person is irrelevant. If I began impugning his character or conscience, then the double-standard point applies.
RE: RE: .  
Rob in CT/NYC : 10/18/2016 10:35 am : link
In comment 13179632 Montreal Man said:
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In comment 13178942 Rob in CT/NYC said:


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Harassment covers a wide range of behaviours of an offensive nature. It is commonly understood as behaviour intended to disturb or upset.

By your own admission you said you wanted to cause him discomfort?



And so what? Any criticism, by nature, causes discomfort. If it did that for Triplette, good. People who make big and bad decisions should be called on it. It happens in almost every other profession.


Yes, it happens in nearly every profession - where managers/co-workers have formal mechanisms to provide feedback. Not everyone is exposed to random douchebaggery from the general public for their on the job performance.

It's fucking game, fans who insert themselves into the game, even tangentially, are part of the problem, not the solution.
RE: ...  
UConn4523 : 10/18/2016 10:42 am : link
In comment 13179848 Overseer said:
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In comment 13179801 UConn4523 said:


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My point isn't about what Beckham is doing, which is immature and he does need to grow up (clearly stated countless times now on BBI). Rather, my point is that shithead fans that do dumb shit in their own lives, have some nerve calling out a football player for dancing while he's been a model citizen in every facet of his life outside of a few instances on the field with opposing players.

Its a double standard. I've done stupid shit i'm not proud of; telling Beckham that he's a clown for proposing to a kicking net would be ludicrous for me to say.


If I were a meth dealer who scoffed at adjudicated child support payments and who worshipped David Duke, I would still, as a Giants fan, feel fully comfortable “calling out” Beckham’s histrionics because it’s not about who’s the bigger jackass (in the stated case above, obviously me).

But rather:

“I’m concerned Beckham’s actions are hurting the Giants (like when he got himself suspended after launching his helmet into an opposing player's head) and will continue to do so, especially if it escalates.”

My shittiness as a person is irrelevant. If I began impugning his character or conscience, then the double-standard point applies.


You are entitled to your opinion. And that statement about Beckham is completely fine, never have/will debate otherwise. But that isn't what's happening on BBI.

I disagree with your generally point though. Fans think they have the right to do whatever they want (evidence in the OP's actions) and think that every player should behave precisely the way they want them to. That entitlement is mind boggling to me.

Until Beckham is a burden to society (like so many other NFL players) I have no right to tell him how he should behave. As for his onfield antics, he does need to clean them up so he doesn't hurt his team. I believe he has taken strides since the first few weeks and will continue to mature.
Oldman  
Bubba : 10/18/2016 10:45 am : link
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Goodell
old man : 10/17/2016 8:42 pm : link : reply
Will be sending 3 guys named Bubba to talk to you about that. If you survive tell someone to let us know what hospital you are in. If you don't BBI will take up a collection towards your final expenses, and set up a BALLS Award in your honor.
Sir Rahja of Goodell has friends in low places, and you don't mess with his refs.



I just got the call.
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