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PetesHereNow : 10/17/2016 8:19 pm
Jets try to stay away from 1-5, while the Cards try to keep up with the pace in the NFC West.
Sh*t, do I need to root for a team  
Big Blue '56 : 10/17/2016 8:21 pm : link
I've loathed (Jets) since 1960 because of wild card playoff implications re the Cards?
RE: Sh*t, do I need to root for a team  
PetesHereNow : 10/17/2016 8:23 pm : link
In comment 13179234 Big Blue '56 said:
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I've loathed (Jets) since 1960 because of wild card playoff implications re the Cards?


Probably for the best, but I don't think the Jets have it in them to win this one. So the sports talk radio from the two Jets fans will make for an amusing Tuesday morning work day for me.
David Johnson  
SimpleMan : 10/17/2016 8:44 pm : link
is a hell of a running back. Great run there.
David Johnson takes one in from nearly 60 yards  
PetesHereNow : 10/17/2016 8:44 pm : link
7-0 Cards. The Jets look DONE.
anyone else...  
jnoble : 10/17/2016 8:48 pm : link
...totally not surprised the Jets fell back to earth this season so far? I think Fitzpatricks limted time warrenty is over
First time I've ever seen back to back false starts in a while..  
PetesHereNow : 10/17/2016 8:49 pm : link
Poor Jets...
Theres a reason nobody  
giants#1 : 10/17/2016 8:50 pm : link
Wanted fitz.
RE: Theres a reason nobody  
Cruzin : 10/17/2016 8:56 pm : link
In comment 13179295 giants#1 said:
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Wanted fitz.


True, but he's better than Osweiler, actually everyone in the league is better than Osweiler and Osweiler got paid, can't blame Fitz for holding out.

There's just not enough QBs to go around.
well  
jnoble : 10/17/2016 9:00 pm : link
looks like the other NY team is getting reffed now
This game is unwatchable  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2016 9:00 pm : link
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National Flag League.....  
thrunthrublue : 10/17/2016 9:02 pm : link
Oh for the days when they played football.
Do we see Bryce Perry this year?  
Overseer : 10/17/2016 9:03 pm : link
Fitzpatrick looks horrendous.
RE: RE: Theres a reason nobody  
BleedBlue : 10/17/2016 9:04 pm : link
In comment 13179306 Cruzin said:
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In comment 13179295 giants#1 said:


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Wanted fitz.



True, but he's better than Osweiler, actually everyone in the league is better than Osweiler and Osweiler got paid, can't blame Fitz for holding out.

There's just not enough QBs to go around.



mmm ill disagree big time. fitz is a mediocre QB and has never won anything. osweilers draw was his age and potential to be a franchise QB. something fitz never was and never will be. osweiler>fitz all day
Does Fitz knows it's okay to throw to someone besides Marshall?  
PetesHereNow : 10/17/2016 9:06 pm : link
Holy shit. Every pass, right to Marshall.
Love the potential of Hackenberg  
Giants2012 : 10/17/2016 9:12 pm : link
what a mess at QB.
Jets Defense  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2016 9:12 pm : link
72% completions, 300ypg according to Gruden.

RE: Do we see Bryce Perry this year?  
giants#1 : 10/17/2016 9:19 pm : link
In comment 13179320 Overseer said:
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Fitzpatrick looks horrendous.


Another loss or 2 and you gotta think so. Need to start looking towards the future and they'll be buried in the division with NE/Buffalo
Just turned it on...  
okiegiant : 10/17/2016 9:19 pm : link
Who's Gruden having a love affair with tonight?
RE: RE: Do we see Bryce Perry this year?  
Overseer : 10/17/2016 9:28 pm : link
In comment 13179344 giants#1 said:
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Fitzpatrick looks horrendous.



Another loss or 2 and you gotta think so. Need to start looking towards the future and they'll be buried in the division with NE/Buffalo

Obviously meant Petty* (typing on phone), but youre right it's likely to happen. Fitz had a decent 2015 but this is not a playoff team so they gotta see what they have in the young guys.
Jesus these refs are calling absolutely EVERYTHING  
jlukes : 10/17/2016 9:29 pm : link
and by everything, I mean they are calling penalties when there simply isn't anything there
14-3 Cards  
PetesHereNow : 10/17/2016 9:33 pm : link
Countdown to back-breaking Fitz INT begins now.
RE: RE: RE: Theres a reason nobody  
Cruzin : 10/17/2016 9:45 pm : link
In comment 13179321 BleedBlue said:
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Wanted fitz.



True, but he's better than Osweiler, actually everyone in the league is better than Osweiler and Osweiler got paid, can't blame Fitz for holding out.

There's just not enough QBs to go around.




mmm ill disagree big time. fitz is a mediocre QB and has never won anything. osweilers draw was his age and potential to be a franchise QB. something fitz never was and never will be. osweiler>fitz all day


I won't argue with you, both are bottom of the barrel but the only franchise Osweiler will be involved with would be a car dealership after his current contract is up. They should have kept Hoyer.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Theres a reason nobody  
BleedBlue : 10/17/2016 9:50 pm : link
In comment 13179439 Cruzin said:
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In comment 13179321 BleedBlue said:


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In comment 13179306 Cruzin said:


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Wanted fitz.



True, but he's better than Osweiler, actually everyone in the league is better than Osweiler and Osweiler got paid, can't blame Fitz for holding out.

There's just not enough QBs to go around.




mmm ill disagree big time. fitz is a mediocre QB and has never won anything. osweilers draw was his age and potential to be a franchise QB. something fitz never was and never will be. osweiler>fitz all day



I won't argue with you, both are bottom of the barrel but the only franchise Osweiler will be involved with would be a car dealership after his current contract is up. They should have kept Hoyer.


the difference is with osweiler the jury is still out. he played well last night. with fitz you know youre getting a back up at best. osweiler has a higher ceiling and thats part of building a team is developing a young QB. i would take osweiler literally everytime over fitz
They're calling some serious crap tonight...  
okiegiant : 10/17/2016 10:29 pm : link
Ridiculous.
.  
Danny Kanell : 10/17/2016 10:30 pm : link
Gruden and the other guy are trashing the officiating. I love it.
LOL  
PetesHereNow : 10/17/2016 10:32 pm : link
"Let's see how many snaps in a row we can go without a flag"
Holy shit..  
arcarsenal : 10/17/2016 10:33 pm : link
There's a flag on every fucking snap
This game has more  
Giants_ROK : 10/17/2016 10:33 pm : link
penalties than a high school field hockey game.

Awful.
RE: .  
jnoble : 10/17/2016 10:34 pm : link
In comment 13179485 Danny Kanell said:
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Gruden and the other guy are trashing the officiating. I love it.


If I was good at photoshop I'd make one of the Giants running out of the tunnel yesterday with flags coming in from all directions
Boger and Triplette have got to go  
Kyle in NY : 10/17/2016 10:35 pm : link
I know the NFL is just printing money so there's really no incentive to fix any of this. But this is just a horrendous watch.
Boger and Triplette have got to go  
Kyle in NY : 10/17/2016 10:36 pm : link
I know the NFL is just printing money so there's really no incentive to fix any of this. But this is just a horrendous watch.
This league is craptacular now  
Mr. Bungle : 10/17/2016 10:36 pm : link
.
and...  
jnoble : 10/17/2016 10:38 pm : link
...the Jets season's life support just had it's plug pulled
21-3 Cards  
PetesHereNow : 10/17/2016 10:39 pm : link
Just End The Season.
Amen to that Kyle  
Bluesbreaker : 10/17/2016 10:46 pm : link
How on Earth do you hire a Ref who talks like he has
no teeth ? Or marbles in his mouth .
Somehow I remember Bogus screwing us in a game ..
I agree that the Jets' playoff chances are dead,  
Mr. Bungle : 10/17/2016 10:46 pm : link
but most of the remainder of their schedule is quite easy. So what remains for them is to wreck their draft position. Haha.
No flags the last few plays...  
okiegiant : 10/17/2016 10:47 pm : link
The league must have heard the announcers complaining and contacted the refs.
LOL..  
arcarsenal : 10/17/2016 10:53 pm : link
Pickspatrick strikes again
RE: Amen to that Kyle  
Kyle in NY : 10/17/2016 10:54 pm : link
In comment 13179512 Bluesbreaker said:
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How on Earth do you hire a Ref who talks like he has
no teeth ? Or marbles in his mouth .
Somehow I remember Bogus screwing us in a game ..


I don't care if he has to use sign language to deliver the calls, just do a better job of officiating and enable your crew to do it as well.
Cardinals look like a machine right now ...  
Bluesbreaker : 10/17/2016 11:09 pm : link
Nah Kyle Bogart or WTF his name is did a horrible job
against us . Tonight every other play there is a
hankie . Some are so ticky tack I mean Christ let them
play football.
Geno didn't look terrible against garbage time D  
jcn56 : 10/17/2016 11:30 pm : link
So with all the rest of the Jets woes, here comes a QB controversy!
I know someone already said it  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/17/2016 11:32 pm : link
But why not one more time for the assholes on WFAN tomorrow morning?

Just End The Season.
Poor Jets, poor us  
trueblueinpw : 10/17/2016 11:38 pm : link
Signing Fitz was a mistake. He had his best season ever last year and that wasn't enough to make the playoffs. He's a solid backup prone to throwing picks at the wrong time.

Seems like the Jets defense has taken a step back this season.

More horrendous officiating by Blandino's troupe of ass monkeys.
....  
ilikethenygiants : 10/17/2016 11:43 pm : link
Now, if we choose to listen to WFAN, we have to listen to a week of "should Geno start at QB" talk all week long. Yuck.
The officiating in the league is a disaster  
moespree : 10/17/2016 11:52 pm : link
It's an unwatchable boring product.
RE: Geno didn't look terrible against garbage time D  
Mr. Bungle : 10/17/2016 11:52 pm : link
In comment 13179535 jcn56 said:
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So with all the rest of the Jets woes, here comes a QB controversy!

A fumble and pick was actually pretty terrible.
RE: RE: Geno didn't look terrible against garbage time D  
jcn56 : 10/18/2016 12:02 am : link
In comment 13179550 Mr. Bungle said:
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So with all the rest of the Jets woes, here comes a QB controversy!


A fumble and pick was actually pretty terrible.


Eh, the pick was on 4th down with everyone covered and nowhere to run, not a great pass but considering it was forced not the worst.

The fumble was courtesy of his protection going to shit. He still hasn't had any meaningful playing time, all things considered he wasn't any worse than Fitzpatrick.
If they have a QB controversy over what we just saw,  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/18/2016 12:10 am : link
that would be laugh out loud funny. They both suck and Geno isn't going to do shit. He didn't look particularly good.
RE: If they have a QB controversy over what we just saw,  
jcn56 : 10/18/2016 12:15 am : link
In comment 13179559 Dave in Hoboken said:
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that would be laugh out loud funny. They both suck and Geno isn't going to do shit. He didn't look particularly good.


Yeah, but Fitzpatrick's been worse and he's old as dirt. If I know Jets fans (and sadly I've got more than my fair share near me), they'll be calling for a change tomorrow.
Aaah. Just watched the replay on NFLN. No matter how bad things get,  
Skankhunt42 : 10/18/2016 6:18 am : link
we still have the Jets. They always cheer me up.
The true QB controversy shouldn't be between Fitz & Geno...  
BurberryManning : 10/18/2016 7:59 am : link
rather it should be between Petty & Hackenberg. Clearly, the Jets are going nowhere quickly and an aging Fitzpatrick along with a 27 year old Geno are not suddenly morphing into the quality players that they have demonstrated themselves not to be for years. Hell, even Bryce Petty is 25 years old and has shown less than Ryan Nassib. At least Hackenberg has a lot of youth on his side...

The irony is that the Jets have committed four roster spots to quarterbacks, with none of them demonstrating any ability to produce at this point. In the preseason many Jets fans were mentioning that their QB logjam was a nice problem to have while operating under some false illusion that quantity counts over quality in the NFL. In hindsight it would've been prudent for the Jets to have picked their veteran (Geno or Fitz) and discard the other while developing Petty & Hackenberg. Now, as it stands, you have two veteran QBs hogging the practice reps and mucking up the QB room while your developmental players languish.

Chalk this entire situation up to another case study in why Eli Manning has been a godsend for the NY Giants.
RE: The true QB controversy shouldn't be between Fitz & Geno...  
feelflows : 10/18/2016 8:05 am : link
In comment 13179636 BurberryManning said:
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rather it should be between Petty & Hackenberg. Clearly, the Jets are going nowhere quickly and an aging Fitzpatrick along with a 27 year old Geno are not suddenly morphing into the quality players that they have demonstrated themselves not to be for years. Hell, even Bryce Petty is 25 years old and has shown less than Ryan Nassib. At least Hackenberg has a lot of youth on his side...

The irony is that the Jets have committed four roster spots to quarterbacks, with none of them demonstrating any ability to produce at this point. In the preseason many Jets fans were mentioning that their QB logjam was a nice problem to have while operating under some false illusion that quantity counts over quality in the NFL. In hindsight it would've been prudent for the Jets to have picked their veteran (Geno or Fitz) and discard the other while developing Petty & Hackenberg. Now, as it stands, you have two veteran QBs hogging the practice reps and mucking up the QB room while your developmental players languish.

Chalk this entire situation up to another case study in why Eli Manning has been a godsend for the NY Giants.


I was/am a big Hackenberg guy. I was hoping he'd slip to the 4th round or so into the Giants lap...that being said, Franklin really screwed him up. He basically has to learn how to throw again.

Add that to the fact he's with the Jets, who haven't developed a QB since...well, it's been a while.

Hack has the tools, and had the arm.. but right now he's erratic/inconsistent/inaccurate. He's a mess.
RE: The true QB controversy shouldn't be between Fitz & Geno...  
jcn56 : 10/18/2016 8:10 am : link
In comment 13179636 BurberryManning said:
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rather it should be between Petty & Hackenberg. Clearly, the Jets are going nowhere quickly and an aging Fitzpatrick along with a 27 year old Geno are not suddenly morphing into the quality players that they have demonstrated themselves not to be for years. Hell, even Bryce Petty is 25 years old and has shown less than Ryan Nassib. At least Hackenberg has a lot of youth on his side...

The irony is that the Jets have committed four roster spots to quarterbacks, with none of them demonstrating any ability to produce at this point. In the preseason many Jets fans were mentioning that their QB logjam was a nice problem to have while operating under some false illusion that quantity counts over quality in the NFL. In hindsight it would've been prudent for the Jets to have picked their veteran (Geno or Fitz) and discard the other while developing Petty & Hackenberg. Now, as it stands, you have two veteran QBs hogging the practice reps and mucking up the QB room while your developmental players languish.

Chalk this entire situation up to another case study in why Eli Manning has been a godsend for the NY Giants.


See, I'm figuring the Jets will easily retain one or both of Petty/Hackenburg until next camp. Smith, on the other hand, doesn't likely play into their plans in any way. He's got one more year left on his contract after this one.

If they can get him to show any ability whatsoever this year, they can either reverse course and try to retain him (unlikely), or trade him before his contract expires for whatever they can get in return.
RE: RE: The true QB controversy shouldn't be between Fitz & Geno...  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/18/2016 8:17 am : link
In comment 13179638 feelflows said:
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In comment 13179636 BurberryManning said:


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rather it should be between Petty & Hackenberg. Clearly, the Jets are going nowhere quickly and an aging Fitzpatrick along with a 27 year old Geno are not suddenly morphing into the quality players that they have demonstrated themselves not to be for years. Hell, even Bryce Petty is 25 years old and has shown less than Ryan Nassib. At least Hackenberg has a lot of youth on his side...

The irony is that the Jets have committed four roster spots to quarterbacks, with none of them demonstrating any ability to produce at this point. In the preseason many Jets fans were mentioning that their QB logjam was a nice problem to have while operating under some false illusion that quantity counts over quality in the NFL. In hindsight it would've been prudent for the Jets to have picked their veteran (Geno or Fitz) and discard the other while developing Petty & Hackenberg. Now, as it stands, you have two veteran QBs hogging the practice reps and mucking up the QB room while your developmental players languish.

Chalk this entire situation up to another case study in why Eli Manning has been a godsend for the NY Giants.



I was/am a big Hackenberg guy. I was hoping he'd slip to the 4th round or so into the Giants lap...that being said, Franklin really screwed him up. He basically has to learn how to throw again.

Add that to the fact he's with the Jets, who haven't developed a QB since...well, it's been a while.

Hack has the tools, and had the arm.. but right now he's erratic/inconsistent/inaccurate. He's a mess.


Same camp here. Guy was a legit prospect after his freshman year, but Franklin was the absolute worst fit. If you look at McSorely now, he's basically making plays with his feet - no mechanics whatsoever.

Too bad for Hackenberg he went to an organization whose track record with developing QBs since Namath is O'Brien and Pennington.
Yep..if I were to handicap the chances of the Jets QBs going forward..  
BurberryManning : 10/18/2016 8:30 am : link
I'd think that Hackeberg is my guy. Not to suggest that he's a tremendous prospect but Hackenberg has youth (21), a sterling HS pedigree (suggests pure talent), and some demonstrated collegiate success in a pro-style system (with Bill OB). Meanwhile, unless Petty is the second coming of Tony Romo, history is not on the side of a 25 year old coming from a collegiate spread offense and who has failed to ascend to QB2 through a couple years.

As for Geno, I'm not so sure that he has much value to the Jets or otherwise next year. This is a guy who clearly believes he can/should start, is rankled when not starting, and doesn't appear to be the best teammate (ex. broken jaw). I'm not sure that any organization will be looking to take a chance on a 28 year old Geno to start and would want to introduce him to their QB room as a backup.
RE: Yep..if I were to handicap the chances of the Jets QBs going forward..  
feelflows : 10/18/2016 8:32 am : link
In comment 13179661 BurberryManning said:
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I'd think that Hackeberg is my guy. Not to suggest that he's a tremendous prospect but Hackenberg has youth (21), a sterling HS pedigree (suggests pure talent), and some demonstrated collegiate success in a pro-style system (with Bill OB). Meanwhile, unless Petty is the second coming of Tony Romo, history is not on the side of a 25 year old coming from a collegiate spread offense and who has failed to ascend to QB2 through a couple years.

As for Geno, I'm not so sure that he has much value to the Jets or otherwise next year. This is a guy who clearly believes he can/should start, is rankled when not starting, and doesn't appear to be the best teammate (ex. broken jaw). I'm not sure that any organization will be looking to take a chance on a 28 year old Geno to start and would want to introduce him to their QB room as a backup.


The problem is, Hack is a project at this point..which is FINE because of his age, but the Jets don't have a great track record on developing QBs.

Trade him to the NYG for Nassib!!!
Dead money?  
trueblueinpw : 10/18/2016 8:41 am : link
Does anyone know how much dead money, or sunk cost, the Jets have tied up in Geno and Fitz? Can't remember if they gave Fitz a one year deal for 2016. What a waste. I guess the Jets thought Fitz would be better than last year and that they would make a run into the playoffs. Must be really brutal to be a Jets fan.
Good old..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2016 8:49 am : link
Jerome Boger.

He'd rather say "fause start" about 10 times a game and throw flags like it is rice at a wedding than actually make good calls.
RE: Good old..  
Big Blue '56 : 10/18/2016 8:52 am : link
In comment 13179690 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Jerome Boger.

He'd rather say "fause start" about 10 times a game and throw flags like it is rice at a wedding than actually make good calls.


Haven't bothered to follow the media's take on the officiating, so i'll ask, are they making any noise over this? Enough noise to get Goodell's attention? The owners have to notice..
Most of the outrage  
PEEJ : 10/18/2016 9:00 am : link
was directed at the Sherman non-call vs Julio Jones
PEEJ..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2016 9:05 am : link
I guess because the Giants won that not much fallout happened because of the DRC call. Which is bad.

I'm actually more shocked that more wasn't made of the Duke Johnson fumble recovery. It made the rounds on the highlight shows and I think it was even part of the "C'mon Man!" segment, but there was never any real discussion on how the hell a team is awarded the ball in a victory when the opposition has it in a potential go ahead drive.

It was more of a topic of laughter than "How the fuck did that just happen".
They are all shills  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/18/2016 9:30 am : link
which is why the McDonough call-out was so atypical. Michaels does it subtly, particularly when Hochuli refs.
When decisions are complicated - start with the easiest stuff first  
Bob in Newburgh : 10/18/2016 9:37 am : link
I do not know the exact details, but it was reported that Fitzpatrick signed what is essentially a 1-year contract. It would seem obvious to anyone (hopefully even to Bowles) that investing any more time in him is a total waste.

Unless there was an extension I am not aware of, Geno is on the final year of his 4-year contract as a non-1st rd draft choice. He is young enough to re-sign, and probably would be relatively cheap. This probably is not in the cards as I believe that Bowles blames him (with or without justification) for messing up Plan A with the broken jaw last year. The honest truth is that in year 4 the Jets do not know what they have here, but evidently Geno has not been creating such a storm in practice that he is forcing himself into the lineup.

Hackenburg is probably a 2-year reinvention just to get the mechanics back. Plenty of physical talent, but the same can be said of Geno.

That really leaves Petty. You almost have to do this unless what he is showing in practice demonstrates no chance that he is ready to be competitive.
The media is gun shy  
PEEJ : 10/18/2016 9:39 am : link
about criticizing the officiating. They are cowed by the League
That's not right  
VenteSette : 10/18/2016 9:46 am : link
Smith does not have another year on his deal. I think that they held on to him expecting to get some kind of pick back - with all the QB injuries it looked like they might. I can't believe that the guy was waving his arms around like they should put him in and they actually did. I'd have sent him back to the lockers for that shit. They will hold him and hope his next contracts help them net a compensatory pick.

Fitzpatrick is on a one year deal, but it was structured with a voidable year so it is somehow $7M/$5M instead of straight $12M. I don't know how that plays into next year because I doubt they will want him back.

Petty may have been the #2, but he hurt his shoulder during the preseason. He actually looked better than I expected. Worlds better than last preseason.

Hopefully Hackenberg will amount to something, but they will be in a difficult position next year. They needed a middling vet to hold the fort, while they brought Petty and Hack along. Fitzpatrick was good for that, but at $12M you can't sit him and you can't bring him back next year, unless it is for pure backup money. Add to that the fact that the coaching has been suspect (they look unprepared, undisciplined - though some of last night's penalties were ridiculous, and with a defensive guru DB as head coach you would think they wouldn't have so many blown coverages) these guys will have to make a splash next year because they are not likely to give this FO the opportunity to develop a QB.
they should tank  
spike : 10/18/2016 9:49 am : link
for no 1 pick
This morning I might just have to listen to Beningo and smile  
Giants2012 : 10/18/2016 9:54 am : link
although they might start off with the Mets.
Beningo just called Brian Winters an idiot  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/18/2016 10:11 am : link
And continued his bashing of Marshall, along with asking Wilkerson to give some money back -- the same guy he was BEGGING the Jets to have back a few months ago.
Coming weeks  
spike : 10/18/2016 10:17 am : link
Jets @ Browns
Jets @ Dolphins

Battle for the no 1 pick
RE: Coming weeks  
spike : 10/18/2016 10:20 am : link
In comment 13179862 spike said:
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Jets @ Browns
Jets @ Dolphins

Battle for the no 1 pick


Jets@ Niners too lol
Beningo calling for Coughlin!  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/18/2016 10:30 am : link
If they can't get Harbaugh, he wants TC!
FMiC...and......  
ColHowPepper : 10/18/2016 11:22 am : link
didn't catch the Duke Johnson play and controversy...what was the deal on replay?

also, for the poster above who said Petty is no better than our very own Ryan Nassib, Petty had a nice exhibition outing or two in pre-season, and our guy looks to have regressed and to not give a shit...Giants are going to have to spend some draft pick coin pretty darn soon at the QB position
Too Funny  
Bluesbreaker : 10/18/2016 7:58 pm : link
Good old..
FatMan in Charlotte : 8:49 am : link : reply
Jerome Boger.

He'd rather say "fause start" about 10 times a game and throw flags like it is rice at a wedding than actually make good calls.
ColHow..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/18/2016 8:30 pm : link
In the Redskins-Browns game, the Browns were down 3 or 4 and had the ball at about their own 40. They ran a running play, the ball came out and bounced right back up to Duke Johnson. While he is standing OUTSIDE the pile with the ball, the female ref on Triplette's crew signals that it is Washington's ball. While coaches and Johnson are arguing the call from the sidelines, the refs put the ball in play without seemingly ever doing a replay.

Blandino came out after the game and said the female ref saw a clear recovery by Washington before Duke Johnson had the ball, which couldn't have been disputed by replay. Unfortunately, the video doesn't support it and the replay never happened.

Very strange
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