NFT: 2017 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees

always felt Tupac was one of the more overrated rappers, but he gets in due to the pop-culture phenomenon that he was.

Can't wait to see HR's induction speech....hahahaha

ELO should be a slam dunk. Rest of the list is pretty pedestrian for me.
Clearly, they are running out of worthy nominees.

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One of the most talented group of musicians ever put together. Too bad Chris Squire passed last year.

What a travesty !!!

which hardly matters since it's really the Music, except for country and jazz, Hall of Fame, how is Joan Baez not already in?

Unlike most hardcore bands, they could actually play their instruments well :)

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In comment 13179832 Mad Mike said:

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which hardly matters since it's really the Music, except for country and jazz, Hall of Fame, how is Joan Baez not already in?

Aren't most of her popular songs covers of other people's work or written by other people.

She's probably the female face of 70's political folk music, but musically I don't know she was all that deserving, was she?

only two that should 100% be in

I against I is one of my favorite albums of all time .Cant believe its 30 years old

He has sold more concert tickets than all the nominees combined.

In comment 13179837 GiantFilthy said:

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What are you so excited about? Are they your personal Jesus or something?

In comment 13179857 Chip said:

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He has sold more concert tickets than all the nominees combined.

Buffett is the musical equivalent of Raffi (the children's singer). (look him up if you have never heard him).

He's a no talent ass clown.

In comment 13179860 Greg from LI said:

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In comment 13179837 GiantFilthy said: Quote: . What are you so excited about? Are they your personal Jesus or something?

Maybe he Just Can't get Enough.

with some great songs - She's Not There, Time of the Season, etc. Probably too short-lived for the HOF though.

Yes, Kraftwerk, Depeche Mode, Bad Brains, and The Cars.

the years that they should simply call it the Music HOF. But from that list,my choices would be Pearl Jam,Yes,Joan Baez & MC5

to be included in that grouping. Proof positive that the RnR HoF isn't worth the time it took to read this thread.

J Geils is a great live band. Peter Wolfe could work a room like no other. Natefit used to live in his building, maybe he's lurking and could regale us with a tale or two.

what a watered down bunch. some i haven't heard of.

I could see Tupac and maybe Yes and Depeche Mode but other than that....

Let's put some real Rock'n'Roll in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Forget about this corporate, over-produced crap from the 70s

it the Music Hall of Fame because there are too many people already in and nominated that clearly weren't "rock and roll."

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Didn't see your post. Great minds and all that...

In comment 13180077 Vanzetti said:

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Let's put some real Rock'n'Roll in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Forget about this corporate, over-produced crap from the 70s

I actually liked this line from Billy Corgan when he was giving the induction speech for Pink Floyd at the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.

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I grew up in the 70s and 80s. I'm roughly 28 years old. When people would say Pink Floyd, before I even heard a note, there was a certain reverence that surrounded this band. They were a strange anomaly in the 70s [which was] filled with this horrible, awful music, which some of you in this room are responsible for.

on the back of one very good song and a handful of mediocre ones. He got the bucks, doesn't deserve the award. Pass.

As far as Baez is concerned, she wasn't even much of a pathway toward modern R and R. She was a sweet voiced folk singer whose biggest claim to fame was sleeping with and helping introduce Bob Dylan to the world.

worth $400 million. That's a nice consolation prize.

Bon Jovi is ignored year after year. Especially when I see some of these other nominees.

Pathetic

In comment 13179926 gtt350 said:

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what a watered down bunch. some i haven't heard of.

Yeah you have no idea what you're talking about.

This isn't a bad list, both in terms of influence and output. Bad Brains and Yes would be enough for me.

should be in also. And Yes/ELO are definates also.

Absolutely pathetic Yes is not already in there. It's also a travesty that both Jethro Tull and ELP are not already in either. It would be nice to see some actual Rock bands to get in now and then, instead of so many of the non-rock, crap bands they've been allowing in for the last couple of decades. But then again the R&R HoF has always been a joke, so it's not surprising.

You say that as if it's a bad thing.

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that the R&R HOF will eventually include almost everyone of any account because music is so subjective and there really aren't any statistics that matter as there is in sports but more that time has simply passed since their carers began/ended

In comment 13180857 steve in ky said:

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"Rock" refers to a more specific kind of music, and differs from "Rock & Roll" in it's connotation.

with Rock, which is just a derivative of a much broader genre of music. Obviously the RRHOF does not differentiate the music genres of the artists it inducts as much any more, but for anyone who is still obsessed with the semantics here's the wikipedia description of the basic foundations of Rock & Roll:

a genre of popular music that originated and evolved in the United States during the late 1940s and early 1950s,from African-American musical styles such as gospel, jazz, and rhythm and blues, with country . . . In the earliest rock and roll styles of the late 1940s and early 1950s, either the piano or saxophone was often the lead instrument, but these were generally replaced or supplemented by guitar in the middle to late 1950s. The beat is essentially a blues rhythm with an accentuated backbeat, the latter almost always provided by a snare drum.

I loved listening to Bad Brains when I was a kid. I actually just ordered a copy of I Against I which for a while was really hard to find. Maybe it was reissued or something? Anyway, it sounds just a great today as it did 30 years ago but it seems really tame. When I was listening to that there were metal-heads who were like "whoa, that's too heavy, what's wrong with you?".

Re-ig-KNEE-tion!

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The power to turn my stomach.

Don't ad managers understand that some ads make you want to buy anything else? I would go back to rabbit ears rather than buy Direct TV after that garbage.

House of Suffering is pretty awesome too

the bar for the R&R HoF has been set at a mostly accommodating level. The way I'd set the NFL... someone like Jim Kelly (although a great player), would not be HoF worthy. But given the current criteria, he's obviously in.

Here, only Pearl Jam sticks out as a true no brainer, and I like a lot of these artists. Jane's Addiction, e.g., just a solid band. But current critera warrants:

Yes
Tupac
The Cars
Bad Brains
Journey
ELO

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Pearl Jam still makes good music (Riot Act sucked). But damn, their early stuff is just peak rock. Ten, Vitalogy, Vs, then up to the criminally underrated No Code.

In comment 13179840 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13179832 Mad Mike said: Quote: which hardly matters since it's really the Music, except for country and jazz, Hall of Fame, how is Joan Baez not already in? Aren't most of her popular songs covers of other people's work or written by other people. She's probably the female face of 70's political folk music, but musically I don't know she was all that deserving, was she?

I kinda agree with this. Diamonds and rust is just an exceptional tune but I don't know what else she really wrote.

Already in?

WHEN?????

In favor of some of these bands.

both Yes and Journey were already in.

But I would thing Journey, Yes, and Pearl Jam would be locks.

In comment 13181126 Beezer said:

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Already in? WHEN?????

C'mon Beez, you know the answer to this.
He'll get in accidentally, like a martyr.

Bad Brains live back in the late 90s in a tiny club in Woodstock, NY (the semi-famous Joyous Lake, which I believe is no longer in business.) They were playing under the name Soul Brains because of a legal battle with their former management company but it was the original line-up. They played all of the hardcore stuff in the beginning and then transition to their newer, more reggae-sounding catalog. Such an awesome experience. My then gf now wife's mother's boyfriend at the time played bass for the opening band. He was supposed to bring us backstage to meet the Brains but it never worked out. I later found out that he felt weird bringing us back because all of the pot smoking going on (and we were only 18 or 19 at the time.)

I'd love to see them again but they don't tour much lately. HR and Dr Know have both been in poor health.

In comment 13181380 Cruzin said:

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In comment 13181126 Beezer said: Quote: Already in? WHEN????? C'mon Beez, you know the answer to this. He'll get in accidentally, like a martyr.

HA! And when the day comes, his "bust" will assuredly be placed in splendid isolation.