This was noted in the MNF thread, but in case anyone didn't watch the game and hear this live, it was really something, in my opinion.
In the 3rd quarter, with Jerome Boger's inept officiating crew throwing flags left and right -- several of them unjustified -- the game became almost unbearable to watch.
And then, Sean McDonough, the
Monday Night Football play-by-play announcer, says this:
“If we’re looking for reasons why TV ratings for the NFL are down all over the place, this doesn’t help. The way this game has been officiated is not something anybody wants to watch.”
The NFL could not have been happy with this. Massive kudos to McDonough for not holding back. And even Gruden, who is not well-loved here for understandable reasons, got in on the criticism.
Enough with Tripplette and Boger. This league must fire both of them for good.
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The TV ratings numbers for those news shows over the last 6 months suggest an emphatic yes.
Just using the week of October 9 as an example. These were the top 5 rated shows in primetime:
1. ESPN (3.9 million)
2. FOX News (3.5 million)
3. CNN (2.7 million)
4. TBS (2.2 million - playoff baseball)
5. MSNBC (2.0 million)
The news networks have been experiencing record ratings for themselves the last 6+ months thanks to this terrible election. People may hate it, but they are tuning into these shows in numbers these news networks haven't seen before. So someone is interested.
In this case, a lot of people.
Now, the games on Sunday night/Monday/Thursday have been absolute dogs. I haven't tuned in for more than a 20 minutes on a few of them. That combination is bad business.
1. Fox News (1.6 million)
2. CNN (1.2 million)
3. ESPN (1.2 million)
4. Nickelodeon (1.0 million)
5. MSNBC (966,000)
So yes many more people just during the day (not just primetime) are locked into the news right now.
Once this election is over, these numbers will drop considerably.
The NFL has legislated itself into an incredibly homogenized and dull product. How many teams, aside from your own, would you even pay to watch? Are there any teams that are "appointment viewing" candidates in the regular season?
It is really unwatchable.. I don't even watch games that the Giants are not in anymore.
Even the Giant games are beyond painful to watch.
This is not the NFL I grew up with in the 70and 80s.
Weather in the NE has been great so im not wasting my time inside if the giants arent on
Greg, you're venturing into foreign lands without a map lol, soccer has tremendous appeal once you begin to know the teams, players, etc. and it goes on and off on schedule, 45 minutes + stoppage time, you can set your recipes cooking time to the matches
Gruden, thing about him is that he BELIEVES he's God's gift to the booth, his preening, his insights (maybe once upon a time shortly after he left the sidelines)???, his delivery, just massive turnoffs
Francessa, who has his NFL gigs and has made his name and early career as an NFL "guru" (according to his various employers), actually had a rant last Friday I think as I was on my way to a match (soccer, G) and he was decrying how the NFL loves to shake down cities to obtain public funding for new stadia. He said there should never be public funding because the League, the pensions, etc. are so cash rich, and the public will be extorted, and that's the game the NFL is playing with Las Vegas re. the Rams and Raiders, both of which franchises want new stadium or they're gone.
And, I think I saw yesterday that Las Vegas had approved something like 3/4 of a $billion for construction of a new NFL stadium. Now, while the Pope has made a ton of dough and is supposedly close to leaving WFAN, it took some guts to come out with his position, and he hit it hard and often
Weather in the NE has been great so im not wasting my time inside if the giants arent on
actually I think it may be the opposite: the casual fan, women and FF players are interested but the real football fans like us who grew up on '70s and '80s (and some '50s and '60s) NFL are turned off. There was a time where I would have a fit if I had to do ANYTHING on Sunday but watch the Giants and other games before or after. Now I'm happy to coach baseball or enjoy the nice weather.
1. Fox News (1.6 million)
2. CNN (1.2 million)
3. ESPN (1.2 million)
4. Nickelodeon (1.0 million)
5. MSNBC (966,000)
So yes many more people just during the day (not just primetime) are locked into the news right now.
Once this election is over, these numbers will drop considerably.
Sorry, how are those ratings calculated exactly? Does it imply 1.6 million people watched FoxNews... the entire day, or that they checked in at some point that morning day or night?
Which day was tracked - two days ago or 9 days ago, which was debate #2?
The league has messed with the game for far too long...officials are under the microscope and unfairly so. The guy to blame is Dean Blandino...how can a guy who never reffed an NFL game be giving advice to actual officials.
The game is officiated poorly for a lot of reasons and the least blame should go to the actual on field refs and their crews. Every crew has a different interpretation of pass interference, for example, or holding or whatever. Anything that stinks, stinks from the head down, not the other way. NFL officiating stinks because of Blandino, Goodell, Pash and others involved in constantly screwing with the game.
Which day was tracked - two days ago or 9 days ago, which was debate #2?
They take the viewership of all of their shows for that day and do the math from there.
The ratings are an on average calculation for the week. They have daily ratings for specific shows as well if you want to go that deep.
The week I gave was for the week ending October 9, totaling 7 days of TV viewing (Monday through Sunday).
Even if you wanted to go back 2 weeks before that, MSNBC reported an 80% increase in viewers in the 3rd quarter of this year, giving them their highest viewership ever since they became a channel 20 years ago.
FOX News is also reporting the same thing and so is CNN. All the TV networks are making a lot of money with selling ads and viewers tuning in all day and night to these shows.
So if they are all pulling in record numbers in viewership, the math would suggest they are taking away from some other programming.
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I seriously doubt that its drawing fans away from live football. I think less people are watching. Young people do stuff. Whether its my sons or the young professionals that I work with: Football competes with activities. Its still big, but younger fans do not even have television packages. They stream if they are near their monitors. I think the product needs help and they are too many commercial breaks.
I agree, the election is so toxic that iot actually is turning people off. Look at the last Debates ratings, one of the worst in history
Didn't the first debate set a record?
Yes, but the second one tanked
21% drop from the first yet high for a debate
Even when it doesn't show up, some of my joy is gone in those seconds, just because I had to think about it that way.