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| Giants kicker Josh Brown admitted to physical abuse toward his wife on multiple occasions in emailed letters, personal journal entries and counseling exercises, according to police documents obtained by NJ Advance Media. The written admissions were evidence in an investigation file by a King County (Wash.) Sheriff Department detective that concluded with two charges of fourth-degree domestic violence against Brown being recommended to the King County Prosecuting Attorney on Sept. 14, 2016. According to police documents, Det. Robin L. Ostrum found there was probable cause for charges after investigating allegations of repeated domestic abuse made by Brown's then-wife after Brown was arrested on May 22, 2015 on a charge of domestic violence. It is not clear the status of the recommended charges. A message left with the prosecuting attorney's office has not yet been returned. Brown was suspended one game by the NFL for violating the league's personal conduct policy. That punishment received significant national backlash, as did the Giants' decision to retain Brown. But Giants president and CEO John Mara expressed full confidence in Brown and the decision to keep the kicker, saying the Giants had investigated the situation. The latest release of documents, and Brown's written admissions, could be cause for the NFL to re-open its case and hand down further punishment to Brown. In the police documents is a photocopy of a "contract" through a Seattle-area counselor dated March 28, 2013 and signed by Brown in which he admits one of his "offenses" is that "I have physically, verbally and emotionally abused my wife." In a letter to friends from Brown in March of 2014, also included in the police documents, Brown writes that "... I become an abuser and hurt [his wife] physically, emotionally and verbally." In a personal journal entry attributed to Brown that appears to be from 2013 and is also included in the police documents, he writes: "I have physically, mentally, emotionally and verbally been a repulsive man. ... I have abused my wife." Brown also writes in the journal that, "I may need an anger counselor."... |
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As it had been previously reported, Molly has apparently feared backlash from both the Giants and NFL, telling Ostrum that the team and league would pressure her into making the accusations vanish.
Browns wife told Ostrum she feared the NFL and the Giants would pressure her into making this all go away after Browns arrest, and the league will look to cover things up. Browns wife also expressed fear media backlash could impact Browns career, and that his arrest and actions could lead to his release.
When the league contacted Browns wife, she told Ostrum that the NFL would only be looking to bury this whole incident and protect Josh, according to the documents.
because they are leaving for London today. Its too late to sign anyone
Dave is a shitstain who goes out of his way to prove it.
Shouldn't you be whining about a comment Barilko made a few years ago, or something?
It's also apparent that the Giants knew at least some of these latest revelations when they resigned him, which is horrible. As someone said, he was also a FA. They could have just let him walk.
#Giants spokesman said the team was unaware of the documents in the Josh Brown case prior to their release.
Thats hard to believe
And you imply that I'm dumb? You must be from Suffolk County.
2) If this information is legit, and it seems to be, I hope they cut him.
3) I wish the league could go back and suspend him again, in light of this information. With this information out there, he really fleeced the league and Giants (assuming they truly didn't know) by appealing and ultimately only getting the 1 game.
While it would be awful if the Giants knew about the DV and the Pro Bowl incident and still re-signed Brown, it is also bad if they DIDN'T know it. It's Reese's job to investigate the background of players. If Mara didn't know about this - which I think is likely - this should lead to a very, very tough conversation with Reese. Conceivably, this could be the final straw and lead to Reese's eventual dismissal.
100% agree with B in ALB. It's too bad Randy Bullock underperformed in week 1 but whatever he did I don't want to be rooting for Brown on Sunday. Cut him today.
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There goes my fantasy team.
Why the hell would they risk all that for Brown?!
@JasonColeBR
Records Specialist w/ King County Shrf said Josh Brown docs weren't available before Wed. They hadn't been cleared & it was ongoing invest
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If true, what a disaster.
Hope his passport's current.
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about the Pro Bowl thing?
Thats hard to believe
It's also hard to believe that the Giants would re-sign him if they had full knowledge of all of this.
Here's the problem: In Molly Brown's interview w/police in 2015 she mentioned a letter existed where Josh admitted domestic violence.
Why the hell would they risk all that for Brown?!
Thats probably been SOP for a while. Its only when the rest of the world finds out that they act.
No injuries, no dirtbags, just robots playing football. LOL
My thoughts exactly. The whole organization from the owner on down wanted to come speak out on OBJ meanwhile they're all quiet if not backing Brown (see Cruz's comments). It's absurd. This guy has to go. It's a tough spot given that we have to play this asinine London game, but I'm sure there's a kicker out there that has a passport that we can call on (Tynes?).
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If that tidbit about the Pro Bowl is true, it means the NFL went to lengths to cover up for Brown.
Why the hell would they risk all that for Brown?!
Thats probably been SOP for a while. Its only when the rest of the world finds out that they act.
Somehow I doubt it. Don't get me wrong - I don't doubt they'd go to lengths to protect one of their stars. Obviously, Tom Brady does this and it gets buried two levels deeper than hell. But Josh Brown?! A 37 year old kicker nearing the end of his career? Why would the NFL stick their necks out for a guy who equates to just about zero in revenue?
Doesn't seem to match their business model.
I don't know about BBI users, but it kind of appears as though Ben McAdoo is.
Who the hell is Woody?
They may be right on this one, but it will be a cold day in hell before I give a flying fuck about Mark Schlereth's opinion.
Ironically, if they did decide to cut Brown before Sunday's game, and there isn't enough time to get another kicker on the roster, Beckham might be the guy to do the kicking against the Rams!
For all that Brown did, whatever it was, the Sheriff on the scene recommended that two counts of 4th Degree Domestic Assault be filed. Thus far the charges have not been filed.
Here is what a leading Washington law firm specializing in Domestic Law said about that:
Domestic Violence assault charges are extremely common in Washington State, due to laws that require very little evidence for an arrest to be made. Often times, false and exaggerated statements are made to the police after a heated domestic dispute.
If there are allegations of any unwanted physical contact, even if there is no injury, an arrest for domestic violence assault will be made.
Domestic Violence Assault in the 4th degree charges are filed when there are allegations of a minor injury or no injury at all. For example, an allegation of unwanted touching would be enough physical contact for an arrest to be made.
Under these conditions most of us have probably violated Washington's Domestic Violence, 4th degree.
The man deserves his day in court, with the right to face his accuser and have the details come out. And yes I practiced law formerly, and was involved in enough domestic law cases to know that in most cases of divorce the parties go after each other with no holds barred.
Doesn't seem to match their business model.
Because they wanted it to go away. Even a story about a player being suspended or released because of a domestic abuse incident is worse, in their eyes, than no story at all. They're less interested in "doing the right thing" than they are in avoiding any news about this sort of stuff at all. Backfired pretty big time in this instance.
However, as a legal issue, I am troubled by how Law Enforcement came into possession of some of these materials. The letter to the wife, I understand, but the counselor's notes and his own journal should not be in the hands of law enforcement unless he waived privileges. I wonder if the somewhat indecipherable way the criminal charges progressed was due to the police improperly obtaining evidence from a parallel civil proceeding.
It's not hard at all to replace this scumbag. Kicker is probably the deepest position in all of pro sports nowadays, that's why we hear all this talk about narrowing the goal posts because it has become too easy for them, but we're on the hill for this guy. I just looked it up, and the average kicker today has an 85% average. You have kickers on their couch sitting home that can do this at a high level. Robbie Gould was just 85% last season with a long of 55 yards, he's available and he's 3 years younger than brown.
Go read twitter right now, brown is like number 2 in trending topics. The Giants are getting killed for every moment this guy stays on the roster and they deserve it. He must go
Let's see how much those jingoistic outlets make out of this. This should be universally condemned. In particular after what happened in the nfl the past few years.
Meanwhile the nfl pushes on deflate gate. What a dunce cap Goodell is. He better hope the nfl did not know about this as part of the one game ban decision.
Bingo.
He needs to be out of here.
He needs to be out of here.
You're so right. It's embarrassing that this is MUCH less offensive to a lot of people than the anthem protests
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Uconn. There is moral outrage over kapernick to the point people are tuning out the nfl. Breitbarrt and the like have slammed him.
Let's see how much those jingoistic outlets make out of this. This should be universally condemned. In particular after what happened in the nfl the past few years.
Meanwhile the nfl pushes on deflate gate. What a dunce cap Goodell is. He better hope the nfl did not know about this as part of the one game ban decision.
Bingo.
I'm sure it will be condemned. There's steps that need to be taken to "fire" a player. Let it play out. I'm not suggesting that domestic violence has gray area, it doesn't. I'm merely saying we don't have enough information to point fingers since we are getting new updates every hour it seems.
Giants owner John Mara on Josh Brown: "He admitted to us he'd abused his wife in the past. What's a little unclear is the extent of that."
Bob Glauber @BobGlauber
Giants were aware of altercation between Josh Brown and his wife at the Pro Bowl in January. Still decided to re-sign him.
Bob Glauber @BobGlauber
Giants owner John Mara said no final determination on Josh Brown's long-term status has been made.
What a mess.
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Uconn. There is moral outrage over kapernick to the point people are tuning out the nfl. Breitbarrt and the like have slammed him.
Let's see how much those jingoistic outlets make out of this. This should be universally condemned. In particular after what happened in the nfl the past few years.
Meanwhile the nfl pushes on deflate gate. What a dunce cap Goodell is. He better hope the nfl did not know about this as part of the one game ban decision.
Bingo.
I'm sure it will be condemned. There's steps that need to be taken to "fire" a player. Let it play out. I'm not suggesting that domestic violence has gray area, it doesn't. I'm merely saying we don't have enough information to point fingers since we are getting new updates every hour it seems.
You have an odd fixation with protecting the Giants here. Do you need a picture of his ex's bruised face? If they knew about the pro bowl incident your argument kinda loses its legs
My team is my team and I'm not going to stop being a Giant fan, but John Mara looks like a clown throughout this entire process. A total clown. At least jerry jones doesn't stand from his high horse and pretend to be something he isn't.
And fuck josh brown and his "help", like the Giants are running some rehabilitation center for wife abusers.
Giants owner John Mara on Josh Brown: "He admitted to us he'd abused his wife in the past. What's a little unclear is the extent of that."
Bob Glauber @BobGlauber
Giants were aware of altercation between Josh Brown and his wife at the Pro Bowl in January. Still decided to re-sign him.
Bob Glauber @BobGlauber
Giants owner John Mara said no final determination on Josh Brown's long-term status has been made.
What a mess.
I think Brown misled the team about the extent of his abusive behavior.
Records Specialist w/ King County Shrf said Josh Brown docs weren't available before Wed. They hadn't been cleared & it was ongoing invest
No one had this kind and quantity of information about Brown before this week. It looks worse than it is for the team. But, they need to drop him or else it gets worse, i.e. we can no longer take them at their word that this issue is important to them.
My team is my team and I'm not going to stop being a Giant fan, but John Mara looks like a clown throughout this entire process. A total clown. At least jerry jones doesn't stand from his high horse and pretend to be something he isn't.
And fuck josh brown and his "help", like the Giants are running some rehabilitation center for wife abusers.
Mara really is the worst of the offenders. He's goodells lap dog and loves to give his 2 cents on matters pertaining to other teams player discipline. Now he and Reese are nowhere to be seen and the players will be stuck to clean up his mess in London this week