Giants are to Jets as Virginia Tech is to Virginia
More like Jets are to Browns as VPISU is to Virginia. They don't win shit, either, they just beat us. In football, anyway. They're a doormat in most other sports. Tech is in a very exclusive club of DI schools that have never won a national championship in anything, ever.
Being completely honest, I'm usually ok with hazing
in some fashions, I do think it helps to build camaraderie and humility, but when it gets sexual and potentially fatal then you're crossing a line.
I played high school and college sports and there was hazing, mostly alcohol related, heads shaved, pecking order stuff (freshman clean up the pucks, get water last, worst seats on the bus, etc.)
but nothing sexual, I don't get that mentality to want to force teammates to do anything sexual or degrading THAT way. degrading other ways sure like wearing ugly clothes or smelly equipment, but not to this level.
Giants are to Jets as Virginia Tech is to Virginia
Virginia Tech has dominated us in football though they have been mediocre lately as well. But this comparison doesn't make any sense, considering the only team national championship Virginia Tech has ever won in any sport was once in bass fishing and UVA has 24 (and the most men's championships in the ACC).
RE: ''Freshman pjcas! Get your skinny ass over here!
is indeed scum. There's no doubt about that. Always have been, always will be. Though I don't hate Fuentes yet. Beemer and his goiter - plenty of hate there. Great to see the Cuse chop their fuckin nuts off again in the Dome last week.
You keep saying this, but you have never explained why you hate VT so much.
is indeed scum. There's no doubt about that. Always have been, always will be. Though I don't hate Fuentes yet. Beemer and his goiter - plenty of hate there. Great to see the Cuse chop their fuckin nuts off again in the Dome last week.
You keep saying this, but you have never explained why you hate VT so much.
One of my teammates got carted off in Blacksburg and their fans were throwing beer bottles at the ambulance and screaming racist shit at our bench. They're scum.
is indeed scum. There's no doubt about that. Always have been, always will be. Though I don't hate Fuentes yet. Beemer and his goiter - plenty of hate there. Great to see the Cuse chop their fuckin nuts off again in the Dome last week.
You keep saying this, but you have never explained why you hate VT so much.
One of my teammates got carted off in Blacksburg and their fans were throwing beer bottles at the ambulance and screaming racist shit at our bench. They're scum.
Not one issue or athlete defines an athletics program. And as Greg said, this allegation seems to have holes. But Greg likes to think people who go to Virginia Tech are idiots.
When it comes to athletics, Virginia Tech has not won a team championship. Valid argument and something UVa. fans love to point out. But VT should be respected. Unless you're thinking about the late 80s, before Beamer came in - I'm pretty sure any reasonable person would see a football program that has always tried to do things the right way. Sometimes you can do things the right way and still have shitty people wind up playing football for you - or tennis or track or volleyball, for that matter. But Beamer was a great person and built a consistently competitive program while abstaining from violations many coaches were apart of at other schools.
Meanwhile, in Charlottesville - there's never a good program, nobody's in the stands and the program's under investigation for hazing. Go figure.
As for academics, I don't think you'll hear anyone from VT argue... UVa. is a fantastic school. But Virginia Tech = pretty damn good school, too.
US News & World Report rankings:
National Universities: UVa is #24, VT is #74 of 310 schools
Public Schools: UVa is #2, VT is #27 of 133 schools
Undergrad Engineering Programs: VT is #16, UVa. is #32 of 205 schools
Princeton Review:
Quality of Life: VT is #1, UVa. is unranked in Top-20 schools
Best Alumni Network: VT is #10, UVa. is #11 in Top-25 schools
Academic Rating: UVa. is 85, VT is 77
Professors Interesting Rating: Both schools score 77
Professors Accessible Rating: VT scores 83, UVa. scores 77
Not one issue or athlete defines an athletics program. And as Greg said, this allegation seems to have holes. But Greg likes to think people who go to Virginia Tech are idiots.
When it comes to athletics, Virginia Tech has not won a team championship. Valid argument and something UVa. fans love to point out. But VT should be respected. Unless you're thinking about the late 80s, before Beamer came in - I'm pretty sure any reasonable person would see a football program that has always tried to do things the right way. Sometimes you can do things the right way and still have shitty people wind up playing football for you - or tennis or track or volleyball, for that matter. But Beamer was a great person and built a consistently competitive program while abstaining from violations many coaches were apart of at other schools.
Meanwhile, in Charlottesville - there's never a good program, nobody's in the stands and the program's under investigation for hazing. Go figure.
As for academics, I don't think you'll hear anyone from VT argue... UVa. is a fantastic school. But Virginia Tech = pretty damn good school, too.
US News & World Report rankings:
National Universities: UVa is #24, VT is #74 of 310 schools
Public Schools: UVa is #2, VT is #27 of 133 schools
Undergrad Engineering Programs: VT is #16, UVa. is #32 of 205 schools
Princeton Review:
Quality of Life: VT is #1, UVa. is unranked in Top-20 schools
Best Alumni Network: VT is #10, UVa. is #11 in Top-25 schools
Academic Rating: UVa. is 85, VT is 77
Professors Interesting Rating: Both schools score 77
Professors Accessible Rating: VT scores 83, UVa. scores 77
On the other hand, no one from UVA has ever hired a plane to tow a mocking banner over a Tek bowl game. I haven't forgotten your band writing BLANKET and ARMPIT, the stupid aliases for the nonexistent Rolling Stone fratboys, on their instruments during our game in Cassell last year, either.
UVA's Pep Band was long known for "parodies" that often crossed the line of good taste. I don't particularly get worked up about bands but since you brought it up.
Yet you want to bring up VT's history of not winning a national championship. Whatever makes you feel better. As for the present day, I am very happy with the state of our athletic department. Both Fuente and Buzz Williams seem like good fits. (Say what you want about Buzz's looks; he was a great hire for our program.) I also think we have an AD who properly values the non-revenue sports. Just broke ground on upgrades to the baseball park with more facility upgrades coming. We're still a bit behind but trending in the right direction.
he might be have just been caught with a shot to the orbital while delivering his own punches. Was the fight staged? If it's part of some hazing incident the whole culture is at fault.
There are a lot of hazing incidents which are ignored. Can't applaud or reprimand the kid or family for speaking out or having a lawsuit until all the facts are present. On the flip, can't be blind many hazing incidents deserve a lawsuit and go unreported.
Never a fan of this hazing culture . . . if that was even the case.
The condensed Maryland Giant experience, encompassing the breathtaking scope of opinions he graces us with. I know, it's not nearly as scintillating as the real thing, but perhaps it can nourish your soul through those lean times when he is sadly absent.
If it turns out that it happened the way he says it did, then yeah, that's shitty and people are going to get fired. It sounds pretty far-fetched when there's never been the slightest hint of any of this sort of thing either at UVA in the past or at BYU under Mendenhall. The complaint claims that this is some kind of long standing UVA tradition, but all of the former players who have commented thus far have declared that to be false, and like I said Mike London is just about the last coach on earth I'd suspect of such a thing. The guy's nickname was Coach Mom, after all.
The condensed Greg from LI experience (ha, condensed, how appropriate), encompassing the breathtaking scope of opinions he graces us with. I know, it's not nearly as scintillating as the real thing, but perhaps it can nourish your soul through those very, very, rare times when he is sadly absent and not varnishing his internet resume by attacking others, winning arguments, and attacking everybody that dares challenge is (mostly concocted for effect) "opinions."
Giants are to Jets as Virginia Tech is to Virginia
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Of naming Virginia Tech in the title when in fact it's about UVA. Based on the comments in the thread, it pretty much went over everybody's head.
It really didn't go over most people's heads.
It went WAY over somebody's head.
NTTAWWT.
More like Jets are to Browns as VPISU is to Virginia. They don't win shit, either, they just beat us. In football, anyway. They're a doormat in most other sports. Tech is in a very exclusive club of DI schools that have never won a national championship in anything, ever.
I played high school and college sports and there was hazing, mostly alcohol related, heads shaved, pecking order stuff (freshman clean up the pucks, get water last, worst seats on the bus, etc.)
but nothing sexual, I don't get that mentality to want to force teammates to do anything sexual or degrading THAT way. degrading other ways sure like wearing ugly clothes or smelly equipment, but not to this level.
"uh, okay...cool if I warm up with some bourbon first?"
"uh, okay...cool if I warm up with some bourbon first?"
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after years and years of your own humiliation...
Giants are to Jets as Virginia Tech is to Virginia
Virginia Tech has dominated us in football though they have been mediocre lately as well. But this comparison doesn't make any sense, considering the only team national championship Virginia Tech has ever won in any sport was once in bass fishing and UVA has 24 (and the most men's championships in the ACC).
"uh, okay...cool if I warm up with some bourbon first?"
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ha ha it's probably not far from the truth.
Careful with that - I don't think Greg wants to recognize your soccer crowns.
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You keep saying this, but you have never explained why you hate VT so much.
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is indeed scum. There's no doubt about that. Always have been, always will be. Though I don't hate Fuentes yet. Beemer and his goiter - plenty of hate there. Great to see the Cuse chop their fuckin nuts off again in the Dome last week.
You keep saying this, but you have never explained why you hate VT so much.
One of my teammates got carted off in Blacksburg and their fans were throwing beer bottles at the ambulance and screaming racist shit at our bench. They're scum.
In general, Virginia. In engineering and computer science, Tek.
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is indeed scum. There's no doubt about that. Always have been, always will be. Though I don't hate Fuentes yet. Beemer and his goiter - plenty of hate there. Great to see the Cuse chop their fuckin nuts off again in the Dome last week.
You keep saying this, but you have never explained why you hate VT so much.
One of my teammates got carted off in Blacksburg and their fans were throwing beer bottles at the ambulance and screaming racist shit at our bench. They're scum.
When did this happen?
When it comes to athletics, Virginia Tech has not won a team championship. Valid argument and something UVa. fans love to point out. But VT should be respected. Unless you're thinking about the late 80s, before Beamer came in - I'm pretty sure any reasonable person would see a football program that has always tried to do things the right way. Sometimes you can do things the right way and still have shitty people wind up playing football for you - or tennis or track or volleyball, for that matter. But Beamer was a great person and built a consistently competitive program while abstaining from violations many coaches were apart of at other schools.
Meanwhile, in Charlottesville - there's never a good program, nobody's in the stands and the program's under investigation for hazing. Go figure.
As for academics, I don't think you'll hear anyone from VT argue... UVa. is a fantastic school. But Virginia Tech = pretty damn good school, too.
US News & World Report rankings:
National Universities: UVa is #24, VT is #74 of 310 schools
Public Schools: UVa is #2, VT is #27 of 133 schools
Undergrad Engineering Programs: VT is #16, UVa. is #32 of 205 schools
Princeton Review:
Quality of Life: VT is #1, UVa. is unranked in Top-20 schools
Best Alumni Network: VT is #10, UVa. is #11 in Top-25 schools
Academic Rating: UVa. is 85, VT is 77
Professors Interesting Rating: Both schools score 77
Professors Accessible Rating: VT scores 83, UVa. scores 77
Tuition:
VT: $10,496 in-state, $26,536 out-of-state
UVa.: $11,060 in-state, $41,722 out-of-state
P.S. Watch out this winter for Buzz Williams and the Hokies
When it comes to athletics, Virginia Tech has not won a team championship. Valid argument and something UVa. fans love to point out. But VT should be respected. Unless you're thinking about the late 80s, before Beamer came in - I'm pretty sure any reasonable person would see a football program that has always tried to do things the right way. Sometimes you can do things the right way and still have shitty people wind up playing football for you - or tennis or track or volleyball, for that matter. But Beamer was a great person and built a consistently competitive program while abstaining from violations many coaches were apart of at other schools.
Meanwhile, in Charlottesville - there's never a good program, nobody's in the stands and the program's under investigation for hazing. Go figure.
As for academics, I don't think you'll hear anyone from VT argue... UVa. is a fantastic school. But Virginia Tech = pretty damn good school, too.
US News & World Report rankings:
National Universities: UVa is #24, VT is #74 of 310 schools
Public Schools: UVa is #2, VT is #27 of 133 schools
Undergrad Engineering Programs: VT is #16, UVa. is #32 of 205 schools
Princeton Review:
Quality of Life: VT is #1, UVa. is unranked in Top-20 schools
Best Alumni Network: VT is #10, UVa. is #11 in Top-25 schools
Academic Rating: UVa. is 85, VT is 77
Professors Interesting Rating: Both schools score 77
Professors Accessible Rating: VT scores 83, UVa. scores 77
Tuition:
VT: $10,496 in-state, $26,536 out-of-state
UVa.: $11,060 in-state, $41,722 out-of-state
P.S. Watch out this winter for Buzz Williams and the Hokies
Tuition money well spent. Tech Tech VPI.
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You act like UVA doesn't have any bad eggs. They surely do, but keep your blinders on.
And I apologize, the spelling comment wasn't meant to disparage VT, but rather anyone that could come up with such a vile banner.
Well of course. What else could we expect? Trash.
(Now, just like the other debate, we can now sit back and watch him go.).
Nice work. That info could indicate a lot yet a broken orbital bone kinda Trumps perceptions a family might be too sensative or whatever.
IMO, this hazing behavior/culture has been going on forever in football. It's not a good thing and not sure why culturally it hasn't been stopped.
(Now, just like the other debate, we can now sit back and watch him go.).
Hey, maybe you can sponge some more glory from your daughter and babble about Annapolis some more. That's always a treat.
He will attack anything.
He will never quit.
He must win every argument. Bigly.
The best thing to do is sit back and watch. It's amusing once you figure it out.
Look out below, here he comes with "The Last Word!!!"
There are a lot of hazing incidents which are ignored. Can't applaud or reprimand the kid or family for speaking out or having a lawsuit until all the facts are present. On the flip, can't be blind many hazing incidents deserve a lawsuit and go unreported.
Never a fan of this hazing culture . . . if that was even the case.
The facts will come out one way or another.