NFT: Artie Lange goes off on Howard Stern again

Artie is still alive. If I was in a deadpool 20 years ago, his name would have been one I'd considered selecting.

sort of unrelated, but I do agree with your post. I can see both sides.

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I say evolving as a human.

Forgot my fucking headphones at home.

Thank for posting, Anak. Can't wait to hear this.

was real weird. Ronnie kept eluding to how he tried to put everything through the proper channels of asking Marci Turk but couldn't say that exactly because apparently Howard doesn't want her brought up on the radio show.

is a disgusting mess who can't even put a good set together anymore. I saw him over the winter at the Comedy Cellar. He was supposed to be the closer but the club was smart enough to realize how terrible he was and so they had someone else close. It was one of the worst sets I've ever seen.

He basically joined the cult and has been a joke for years. The biggest hypocrite of them all

points (I say this as a huge Stern fan/every day listener)

1) Artie is largely correct in his observations. The show is not the same show he grew up with and it is more celebrity based. I never personally was all that crazy about the porn star, stripper, sybian stuff. I'm the opposite of a prude it just bored me. I will say the very recent (last 3-4 years) move to have less back office stuff HAS turned me off a bit.

2) Artie should shut his mouth. I'm not above criticizing the show/Howard at all but in all honesty Artie Lange (despite being hilarious on the show) owes a whole lot more to Howard/the show than the reverse. He was a Z list celebrity on a B list skit show. That's not to say Artie isn't/wasn't funny but without the show Artie is barely known, let's get real.

Personally I would love to see Howard go after Opie and Artie (Opie is pretty great at attaching himself to funny/talented people. Anthony pre-outing himself as a total racist nutjob was actually talented/funny and Jim Norton is hilarious... would have been great replacing Artie had they opted to do that when Artie "left". Opie sucks but angry Howard going to war with these 2 would be fun... doubt it would ever happen though... different show... + doubt he would want to deal with whatever may come with Artie and his illness.

John Hein is disliked by much of the staff (doesn't come across that way on the air) and was briefly suspended for allowing a conversation to take place on the wrap up show that angered Howard. Steve Brandano supposedly is dating Howard's rumored Svengali Marci Turk.

In comment 13183647 Randy in CT said:

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I say evolving as a human.

I really am fascinated by what Howard Stern was and what he's become and I don't judge him for it... yet at the same time, I understand Artie's resentment at Howard distancing himself from the ideas and the comedy that made them great together.

We live in a weird time with PC culture. I think Howard had to adjust his image at least a little bit. He had to tone it down, because who the hell wants to be on the wrong side of PC history? The thing I dislike about the way he's done it (and again, that is not to say I disagree with him doing it) is he hasn't really owned it. He's sort of adapted and changed and acted as if no one would notice. I wish he'd have a segment where he'd flat out say that he had to change, we live in a fucking stupid, sensitive world and the only way to survive was to adapt. Just some brutal honesty. That's when Howard's at his best, and it would be real and I'd sympathize way more.

Maybe he has done this? If he has, it hasn't made its way to me yet.

In comment 13183654 PaulBlakeTSU said:

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is a disgusting mess who can't even put a good set together anymore. I saw him over the winter at the Comedy Cellar. He was supposed to be the closer but the club was smart enough to realize how terrible he was and so they had someone else close. It was one of the worst sets I've ever seen.

Artie has one comedy special which is actually very funny. I met Artie years ago at Peculiar Pub along with Kamal from the Jerky Boys and they were very nice I have to say.

that Jason Kaplan is NOT a John Hein fan. I frankly can't stand the guy on the Wrap up Show and I dislike what the Wrap Up Show has become. It used to be entertaining having all the backroom guys talk about the show. Now it's some D-List "Celebrity" Superfan talking about the show.

and has been in the business a long time. People change over time as they get older. Howard enjoys what he is doing now, and the more insightful Howard often yields fantastic interviews (Billy Joel, Lady Gaga).

Artie is a lazy slob who never grew up and is like the one old single guy mad at all his friends for getting married and having kids and not having the same bachelor lifestyle.

really is bizarre. Howard reads her book about getting stuff done. (I remember him talking about it on air) He likes the book a lot. He contacts her and she talks him into commiting to doing the things he wants to do. She teaches him how to unsubscribe from e-mails. Somehow she becomes the COO of his show.

In comment 13183673 PaulBlakeTSU said:

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and has been in the business a long time. People change over time as they get older. Howard enjoys what he is doing now, and the more insightful Howard often yields fantastic interviews (Billy Joel, Lady Gaga). Artie is a lazy slob who never grew up and is like the one old single guy mad at all his friends for getting married and having kids and not having the same bachelor lifestyle.

lol, interesting you say that. When at work, I sometimes listen to old Howard stuff from what I consider their best days (mid-late 2000s, just after moving over to Sirius), and two days ago I was listening to a bit where Sal was getting shit for critiquing Howard getting married.

And Artie was lecturing him how Sal shouldn't want to be "that guy."

Would be funny if Artie is indeed that guy.

Incredible fashion model wife who ever HE probably STILL doesn't believe he gets to wake up with daily.

Bigger worldwide fame than he ever dreamed might be possible.

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Comfort

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No more edge.

It's hardly the new math.

clearly wants to be the co-host on Opie's show (I'm actually sort of surprised Howard hasn't banned him from the building given how petty he can be). The show is better when there is another "jerK" whether it's Artie, Gilbert (also supposedly banned) or Kimmel but what can you do?

In comment 13183647 Randy in CT said:

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I say evolving as a human.

Yes but it also kind of seems like Howard's was willing to give Beth the type of husband Alison wanted.

Of course this is just an opinion but it always seems like Howard evolved and changed more out of respect for his second wife than any personally journey.

Now of course people split of for many reasons and I'm not saying he and his first wife wouldn't have split anyway regardless of any behaviour change.

That level of self pity is just annoying to be around. Either you get pissed off and let down by those types, or you end up enabling them. No win situation.

but I like the new Howard. The constant railing against his competition or people in show biz got a little old for my liking. I prefer the self loathing or when Howard talks like his parents. And he still crushes everyone in his environment when needed so it's all good.

More wack packers. Please.

In comment 13183684 Beezer said:

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Incredible fashion model wife who ever HE probably STILL doesn't believe he gets to wake up with daily. Bigger worldwide fame than he ever dreamed might be possible. = Comfort = No more edge. It's hardly the new math.

Wait, are we talking about Aaron Rodgers again?

but listening to Stern on K-Rock in the summertime, mid-80s, while working in a gym in Bay Shore, was some of the best memories personally, and I think for the show. He was "limited" but the edge was there, always pushing the envelope. No one could come close. When he went the uncensored route, I realize his popularity exploded, but I couldn't get too terribly excited about it.

I've never thought Artie Lange was more than just occasionally funny an d he's always been kind of a douche.

When he was miserable , he was creative and funny. As far as PC being evolved, I would argue it's another term for consensus thinking equating to truth and the lose of free speech and expression of individual thought.

is way more interesting when they have less guests. I mean I like guys like Rogen on the show but how many times can you have these guys on in such a short period of time? Hit em with the HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIN

Howard Stern.

Same deal!

can only speak for myself but maybe when I was younger I would call someone a "retard" or use "gay" as a bad word but then you grow up. All of the wack pack stuff is really a weird thin line for me anyway. I can in one moment laugh at something ridiculous Beetlejuice says and the next feel like Underdog screaming about her seatbelt being mean.

In comment 13183700 Beezer said:

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but listening to Stern on K-Rock in the summertime, mid-80s, while working in a gym in Bay Shore, was some of the best memories personally, and I think for the show. He was "limited" but the edge was there, always pushing the envelope. No one could come close. When he went the uncensored route, I realize his popularity exploded, but I couldn't get too terribly excited about it. I've never thought Artie Lange was more than just occasionally funny an d he's always been kind of a douche.

This is a great post and I think a perfect showcasing of what Stern is missing these days. He doesn't need to be crass. It was never specifically the curse words that were the problem. It was the way he'd push people's buttons and wasn't afraid to be real. His new says is a product of the times unfortunately and many comedians struggle with navigating the new landscape.

about it...in Stern's "prime" we had A list comedians like Andrew Dice Clay, Eddie Murphy, Kinison etc. Nowadays who is the big name comedian willing to be raunchy like that? The biggest comedians are all either very safe or edgy in a different way.

is obviously attractive but I honestly don't find her to be that hot.

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In comment 13183647 Randy in CT said: Quote: I say evolving as a human. Yes but it also kind of seems like Howard's was willing to give Beth the type of husband Alison wanted. Of course this is just an opinion but it always seems like Howard evolved and changed more out of respect for his second wife than any personally journey. Now of course people split of for many reasons and I'm not saying he and his first wife wouldn't have split anyway regardless of any behaviour change.

He wouldn't do anything to keep Allison it seemed, even though he made the silly movie and wrote books about them sticking together no matter what.

Now he's turned into Imus with his young wife dining at Nobu sucking up to celebrities, basically becoming everything he hated.

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is obviously attractive but I honestly don't find her to be that hot.

She never had much work as a model pre-Stern. Fred would probably call her a model wannabee back then.

In comment 13183717 DanMetroMan said:

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about it...in Stern's "prime" we had A list comedians like Andrew Dice Clay, Eddie Murphy, Kinison etc. Nowadays who is the big name comedian willing to be raunchy like that? The biggest comedians are all either very safe or edgy in a different way.

This will sound very egocentric, but there is a big part of me that thinks my childhood/teenage years (90s/2000s) was a golden period when it comes to reasonable limitations on comedy.

Comedians were generally tolerant (I hate that word because it implies "tolerating" something), but you know what I mean. They were accepting of all types of people. But at the same time, they were willing to acknowledge differences in the way certain types of people act. Black people had their quirks. White people, too. Gay, straight, male, female, etc. It wasn't a hate crime to acknowledge people are different, and it was OK to have a laugh at it.

Then "microaggressions" came along and it all went to shit.

In comment 13183718 DanMetroMan said:

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is obviously attractive but I honestly don't find her to be that hot.

He could've done way, way better. Angie Everhart for Christ's sake!

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is obviously attractive but I honestly don't find her to be that hot.

I laughed the other day when post interview he called Sarah Jessica Parker hot. Her and his wife share some facial features that Sal caught some shit for talking about in the past.

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In comment 13183718 DanMetroMan said: Quote: is obviously attractive but I honestly don't find her to be that hot. I laughed the other day when post interview he called Sarah Jessica Parker hot. Her and his wife share some facial features that Sal caught some shit for talking about in the past.

Yeah a lot of people mentioned the connection on the stern fb fanpage. I mean I'm not going to be one of those guys who claims she's unattractive (his wife) but he talks about her like she's a supermodel.

In comment 13183719 schabadoo said:

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Now he's turned into Imus with his young wife dining at Nobu sucking up to celebrities, basically becoming everything he hated.

It's not that he's a kinder gentler Howard that bugs me so much. He's 62 years old now and most people mellow with age. I enjoyed the crass old show more, but whatever. What sucks is the way he's become a kissass. He used to rightly rip celebrity culture to shreds, but now he's exactly the kind of celebrity asshole he used to mock.

like even Sal and Richard are being phased out. Most of the prank calls are now coming from that guy Chris Wilding and the Mole/toupee etc gets way more air time than either way (Richard is basically off the show).

But I think he's dead on with this. His comment about Gwyneth Paltrow and her $200 green drink pretty much sums it up neatly for me.

In comment 13183742 Greg from LI said:

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It's not that he's a kinder gentler Howard that bugs me so much. He's 62 years old now and most people mellow with age. I enjoyed the crass old show more, but whatever. What sucks is the way he's become a kissass. He used to rightly rip celebrity culture to shreds, but now he's exactly the kind of celebrity asshole he used to mock.

Yup. Artie used the perfect example in his podcast too. Never in a million years did I think Gwyneth Paltrow would be a guest on the Howard Stern Show.

We park our cars in the same garage.

In comment 13183647 Randy in CT said:

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I say evolving as a human.

He's a hypocrit. Always was. He's everything that he said he hated. He evolved into a sell out. He doesn't and has t needed the money so his "evolution" shows him to be a dick. And like most who have self worth issues he craves the approval of those he reportedly detested.

Yes he's evolved into a total sellout

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In comment 13183647 Randy in CT said: Quote: I say evolving as a human. He's a hypocrit. Always was. He's everything that he said he hated. He evolved into a sell out. He doesn't and has t needed the money so his "evolution" shows him to be a dick. And like most who have self worth issues he craves the approval of those he reportedly detested. Yes he's evolved into a total sellout

This is dumb. He's not a sellout. It's a different world. If we still lived in 1995, I'm sure he'd still be saying the same things (admittedly with less intensity as age mellows a man out).

If he said the type of shit he said back then... or even as recently as 10-15 years ago, his show would not be on the air. Plain and simple. Could he be doing it better? I already said above, yes he could.

Look at Imus. I don't think Howard wants to go the same route. That doesn't make him a sell out.

It's not the change in the specific language he uses that has turned a lot of old fans against him, it's the tone. He's two steps removed from an E! show, fawning over the A-listers he used to make fun of. That was back when he was on the outside of that world, though. Now, he's in the club and he wants them to like him.

He could still make fun of them without getting FCC violations every half hour the way he did in 1995.

In comment 13183711 DanMetroMan said:

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can only speak for myself but maybe when I was younger I would call someone a "retard" or use "gay" as a bad word but then you grow up. All of the wack pack stuff is really a weird thin line for me anyway. I can in one moment laugh at something ridiculous Beetlejuice says and the next feel like Underdog screaming about her seatbelt being mean.

Dan after listening to him from his NBC afternoon days up till about 5 years ago I have to say the "Wack Pack" stuff is was put me over the edge with him. I grew up. I work as an OT in special ed with severely disabled/cognitively challenged children and have worked with TBI and patients with mental illness. I simply decided that it is not funny to take advantage and make fun of individuals who are either mentally/cognitively challenged or severely mentally ill. He thinks he's giving them all kinds of opportunities and their moment of fame. However really all it consists of is making fun of them in a juvenile fashion. One day I woke up in my 40's and realized I couldn't condone or find that aspect funny any more. Call me lame or whatever. I have a juvenile sense of humor at times, like any other guy but I just couldn't reconcile that aspect any more. It's personal. More power to those who still enjoy him. Everyone has different taste.

I would say he has degraded women more than any other celebrity, well maybe there are 1 or 2 as bad. Yet because of his support of the left, he gets hailed as a feminist?

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In comment 13183711 DanMetroMan said: Quote: can only speak for myself but maybe when I was younger I would call someone a "retard" or use "gay" as a bad word but then you grow up. All of the wack pack stuff is really a weird thin line for me anyway. I can in one moment laugh at something ridiculous Beetlejuice says and the next feel like Underdog screaming about her seatbelt being mean. Dan after listening to him from his NBC afternoon days up till about 5 years ago I have to say the "Wack Pack" stuff is was put me over the edge with him. I grew up. I work as an OT in special ed with severely disabled/cognitively challenged children and have worked with TBI and patients with mental illness. I simply decided that it is not funny to take advantage and make fun of individuals who are either mentally/cognitively challenged or severely mentally ill. He thinks he's giving them all kinds of opportunities and their moment of fame. However really all it consists of is making fun of them in a juvenile fashion. One day I woke up in my 40's and realized I couldn't condone or find that aspect funny any more. Call me lame or whatever. I have a juvenile sense of humor at times, like any other guy but I just couldn't reconcile that aspect any more. It's personal. More power to those who still enjoy him. Everyone has different taste.

I like some crazy shit, I'm not at all into PC etc but yeah at some point I started feeling a little weird about the wack pack stuff in particular Gary "The Retard", Underdog and Wendy. High Pitch Erik is smart enough to know what's going on... in fact I think he's partially an act or an act that turned into something real. Go watch his first appearance he comes off as "normal". I friended him on FB and he's consistently hitting me up for things (not that I'd give him anything).

which makes it ok.

Gary and Wendy never did it for me really. I can't get enough of Big Foot and Medicated Pete.

I think it was late 78 or early 79. Was a big fan for many years. I never liked the Wack Pack direction for the show and haven't really listened to him regulatory in years.

In comment 13183767 Mike in Long Beach said:

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In comment 13183756 LauderdaleMatty said: Quote: In comment 13183647 Randy in CT said: Quote: I say evolving as a human. He's a hypocrit. Always was. He's everything that he said he hated. He evolved into a sell out. He doesn't and has t needed the money so his "evolution" shows him to be a dick. And like most who have self worth issues he craves the approval of those he reportedly detested. Yes he's evolved into a total sellout This is dumb. He's not a sellout. It's a different world. If we still lived in 1995, I'm sure he'd still be saying the same things (admittedly with less intensity as age mellows a man out). If he said the type of shit he said back then... or even as recently as 10-15 years ago, his show would not be on the air. Plain and simple. Could he be doing it better? I already said above, yes he could. Look at Imus. I don't think Howard wants to go the same route. That doesn't make him a sell out.

Please. U are utterly and totally clueless to who Howard' was. U were most likely floating in your dad's nut sack when I started listening to him. Seriously. How old are u? And. He stared on radio and his wars w the "suits". How he disdained sellouts. How he used to rail on people "jumping the shark". He used to do while segments on it.

He has every right to do and be who he wants. But he's a sellout and a hypocrit. What's fu by is how people justify it by him "Maturing". He could have toned down his act without being a sellout but he didn't. He became exactly the type of a lister he constantly goofed. On. Just because you did t exist when he acted like that doesn't mean he didn't do it.

And for a specific example he used to play Marky Mark interviews the make fun of Mark Walberg. Can we go back to the "Pog Vomit" days.

Nothing irks me more than hypocrisy. He's the living embodiment of it

Don Imus is still alive?

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Don Imus is still alive?

You'd never know by looking at him, but yep, sure is. See for yourself!



Whoops, wrong picture! You can see how easy a mistake it is to make though, right?

when did Howard ever pretend he could care less about being invited to the party? I've listened to him since the 80's and no matter how much success he had he would still lament to Letterman that they still don't accept him as one of them. Howard was never punk rock, he always came off as someone who tried to be the proper gentleman his dad always wanted him to be but couldn't help himself, that was the fun of it for the audience.

so some of the stuff he did in the past probably just seems juvenile to him now.

And Millennials, who might be expected to enjoy juvenile humor, are incredibly PC.

After being a celebrity for over 30 years, Howard wants to stay on top, so really he had no choice but to change. The troubling part is the hypocrisy: he used to ridicule corporate culture and the Marci Turks of the world. Now suddenly he spewing the corporate line.

So, his chnage is understandable but still disappointing

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He basically joined the cult and has been a joke for years. The biggest hypocrite of them all

"The cult". How stupid.

Wow.

In comment 13183881 Dave in Hoboken said:

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Wow.

he only has 30 million + listeners. hey. how is it living in a cave?

Stern fan a while ago, back in the Artie Lange days... What made Artie funny was him just being himself.. his stand up was very ordinary... very evident when they would do live roasts on the air... I stopped listening when Sirius wanted to charge me to live stream via the internet... subscription cancelled and never went back

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Stern fan a while ago, back in the Artie Lange days... What made Artie funny was him just being himself.. his stand up was very ordinary... very evident when they would do live roasts on the air... I stopped listening when Sirius wanted to charge me to live stream via the internet... subscription cancelled and never went back

Gah? You have to pay for Sirius. I negotiate mine to 50 ish bucks for 6 months. Internet and one car. Tons of music and NFL Net etc. I think it is worth it.

but he sounds drugged out on that youtube clip.

The way Randy is acting, you'd think someone were insulting Bigfoot.

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The way Randy is acting, you'd think someone were insulting Bigfoot.

Careful, or you'll end up a known racist in these parts.

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The way Randy is acting, you'd think someone were insulting Bigfoot.

It is the usual, ignorant comments (including yours and the hoya douche) about a show that people aren't familiar with. "I haven't listened in ten years! He sucks!"

It is nice to see some non-lazy thinking.

himself?

I find that perspective interesting, but I think he was simply a salesperson. And he found an audience that gravitated to the envelope pushing rebellion. I liked him in the olden days, don't listen now because I don't listen to radio at all without a commute (I work from home), but if I had a commute I'd pony up for Sirius and still listen.

He peaked around here

or how long he's been doing this. It's easy to forget because he hasn't made us laugh in years (decades?) but at one time Eddie Murphy was bar none the funniest man alive, with absurdly hilariously films and specials.

Howard is old. Not only does he likely not want to cultivate daily the same wacky feel the show had, it would probably come off poorly, esp with no Artie, no Jackie, wack Packers dying or getting old etc. Once in a while is okay (e.g. "Special People's Court" and the subsequent Erik sticking his face in Will the Farter's ass was a home run), but every day just ain't possible anymore.

By & large, comedians are at their peak in the 20s, 30s, & sometimes 40s. Arguable reasons for this and there are exceptions, but that's just the way it is.

I get what Artie's saying and despite his obvious shortcomings (as a comedian and as a person) I always loved him on the show. But Howard is still good listening IMO, just in a different way. Slight overcompensation on his part toward "I wanna be known as a tremendous interviewer" but most of them are pretty entertaining. Everyone's a sell out. Everyone. To different degrees, sure, but it doesn't bother me at this stage in his life. It's a reasonably good complement to his obviously superior (at times legendary) work of the past.

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I have to say the "Wack Pack" stuff is was put me over the edge with him. I grew up. I work as an OT in special ed with severely disabled/cognitively challenged children and have worked with TBI and patients with mental illness. I simply decided that it is not funny to take advantage and make fun of individuals who are either mentally/cognitively challenged or severely mentally ill. He thinks he's giving them all kinds of opportunities and their moment of fame. However really all it consists of is making fun of them in a juvenile fashion.

You're wrong. Beet earned $30,000 for Bubble Boy. Who knows what all the appearances added up to but I imagine he's made six figures off his Howard fame and he's got his loving mom (link below) and Bobby looking out for him.

And Hank sought out Howard, not the other way around. He showed up at the studio hoping to get on the air.

Some were pulled by relatives I believe out of concern (Slow Adam), but by & large they make out okay. Although - and I am far from PC - likely a good idea to ditch the word Retard.

The show reached a new high with the Wack Pack. For my money, the funniest segments in the history of the show (and I realize this is saying a lot) are the Politically Incorrect Wack Pack segments with Maher.
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Include Hank. He had no mental impairment, he chose to "exploit" himself. From what I can tell Elephant Boy is of normal intelligence as well

In comment 13183886 Randy in CT said:

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In comment 13183881 Dave in Hoboken said: Quote: Wow. he only has 30 million + listeners. hey. how is it living in a cave?

Sorry, I don't have Sirius. It sucks donkey cock.

Spends more time with Ralph (that whole thing is creepy) and other guys than his wife. Calls at least one guy per show good looking (seriously - how often in the last 5 years have you said this about a guy). Talks about gay rights almost daily. And the classic - "but I am not gay" over and over again.

I love that every movie he says is great (obviously pandering to guests and potential guests) usually absolutely sucks yet he claims to be the cutting edge judge of all thinks pop culture.

Hey nowwwwwwww......

for years, but he still has so much guilt. He is too PC sometimes, and I'm not talking about saying fag or retard. He's still a whiney OCD freak. But I still listen. And yes, sometimes the show really grosses me out. I can do without the Ronnie sex tips.

I love Artie too, but I think he just doesn't understand why Howard can't let him back on the show.

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that Jason Kaplan is NOT a John Hein fan. I frankly can't stand the guy on the Wrap up Show and I dislike what the Wrap Up Show has become. It used to be entertaining having all the backroom guys talk about the show. Now it's some D-List "Celebrity" Superfan talking about the show.

Yea ... what happened to the "Wrap Up Show"? It used to be hilarious when Sal and Richard would go in there ... I think the Wrap-up show was starting to get more interesting than the actual show.

Howard got old and mellowed a bit ... plus 15 years of therapy 3-4 times a week has to change someone (in a good way) - if they need help. Didn't he turn 60 this year .... I think he knew (at his age) - the strippers, pornstars, and Sybian might make him appear as a creep dirty old man if he continued it much longer. Rumor has it his wife has had an influence on him also.

I'm sure some people gave the show up because they missed the porn stars and the crazy people and the rest. The critique I made and others made is that the problem is that Howard turned into exactly the kind of celebrity he built his career mocking, and now he invites them all on his show and kisses their asses as if he were Jimmy fucking Fallon. He caters to them because he is now one of them. 25 years ago Howard was an outsider. He can ramble on now about how he was never trying to attract "the common man", and who knows - maybe that wasn't his goal. However, that's who made him a star. That's the audience that he rode to fame and fortune. Howard wasn't stylish, he wasn't chic, and he wasn't sophisticated. He was just funny, and his way of puncturing the pompousness of celebrities is one of the things that endeared him to his listeners the most.

That's gone now, and it has nothing to do with aging or changing societal mores. He could have cleaned up his language and left the crassness behind while still taking potshots at those people from the outside.

on mocking celebrities? That's a bizarre take. Certainly part of his MO, but it was more just a general irreverence, especially toward the suits who thought they were the be all, end all of what makes good radio.

Then tell me the cult is stupid.. He a joke.

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Then tell me the cult is stupid.. He a joke.

Did you stroke out while posting this?

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The show is not the same anymore and I find myself turning it off quite a bit.

but I understand why Howard has moved the show away from them (he's older, the shock value has worn off in the Internet age, etc.) Honestly the celebrity interviews don't do much for me, especially the ones with ancient musicians and actors that Howard admires but I couldn't care less about (Neil Young, Metallica, etc.) However, I love the continued yelling at JD and the staff, though I do miss the Howard 100 News team. I think Howard's going to retire at the end of 2020, so they're downsizing the staff and bits in preparation for his swan song. Ultimately though, the show entertains me so I continue to listen, and if you don't like the show anymore, feel free to tune out. It's crazy to think that Howard at 62 would act the same way he did when he was at KROCK in the 90s.

he still makes fun of celebrities and the media all the time. Maybe he's no longer on the warpath like he was against Rosie O'Donnell or Imus back in the day, but there's still plenty of ridicule flying around. I think Artie's just missing the show and is lashing out.

I would like to know if this story is true. Many years ago probably in the late 80's when he was still married to his first wife, Howard was adamant against divorce. Some DJ in the Philly area was going through one and Howard berated and dumped on him non stop. The DJ ended up suicidal. Years later Howard divorced .

Is this true or am I off on my facts?? I always believed this and wondered was he a hypocrite

lost interest years ago after his shit got so boring.

My sister (who used to be in the business) is friends with Artie. I was with her one time in a Starbucks in Hoboken and he came in with his bathrobe and slippers and sat down to talk for a while.

Yeah he is fucked up and has a pile of his own issues. However, he is not wrong about Howard and how he has sold out. All you need to do is go back and watch Private Parts. See how he did exactly what the producers, station owners and everyone else didn't want him to do and that is what made him successful. Now it is nothing more than "The View" with a few F Bombs dropped in.

First....his show is all about HIS status as an A list celebrity; which means selling out so celebs will come on his show. He's doing it RIGHT now in this election by refusing to comment on Trump...so that he'll get Trump's interview after the campaign.

Second...he's just a genuinely miserable guy. He his the lottery with his life, yet whines, complains for years about his poor deal with Sirus. He can't take ANY joy in what anybody else likes...case in point....Letterman retires...Stern appears on his final week...and Stern really pissed him off with some really inappropriate cheap shots that showed HE was jealous that Letterman was secure enough with his ego to retire whereas Sterm will NEVER retire, he will hate working but can't retire for fear of losing his status.

especially Overseer and Greg

I never listened to Howard on my own but heard him a decent amount because of people I was with, especially when I worked construction

My best memory of Howard is listening to a tape of him right after he made a deal with the FCC to stay on the air. He had Al Lewis on as a guest and Al is saying "Fuck the FCC" with different cadences so they can't bleep him out and Howard is repeatedly saying "thanks Grandpa" "great Grandpa," good going Grandpa." Classic

or at least part of it
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So old.

day on KRock. I missed a few years when I moved to Atlanta and he was not on here until he moved to Sirius. It was the worst years ever of commuting without Howard.

The show has always been about Howard, what Howard thinks and wants. He was under a lot of constraints on terrestrial radio and it finally got to him. On Satellite, he can pretty much do what he wants. And like everyone, he has matured and changed as the world has.

I don't think he 'sold out' at all. He did American's Greatest Talent because he loves judging shows and he would talk about them all the time. But he hated the time it took and the travel and schmoozing etc. In that way, I don't think he has changed that much.

He's happier now. He loves his life with Beth and all the cats. I don't think the fact that he gets A-listers on means he has changed, I think they have. Or their perception of him has. A few stars did come on in the old days and spoke well of their experience, so maybe that made a difference. And his fans do support the people that come on the show. I wasn't thrilled when Paltrow came on, but I think it was a good interview.

Maybe I'm different because I never liked the Sal and Richard crap or the phony phone calls (except for the Korean Clock store, that's a classic). I just like when Howard talks about stuff and the news with Robin. I could do without Jeff the Drunk, but the lump is funny. I still listen and miss it when he's not on, which seems to be more and more.

Are you Tommy from Malden or some other if his paid dupes? Howard isn't happier....he's a narcissistic insecure petty sell out. How many times did he whine and butch about his contract? About his hours on AGR? Please. He's miserable.

I've been here longer than you have. Howard has ALWAYS bitched. I said he's happier, not that he's completely content.

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I've been here longer than you have. Howard has ALWAYS bitched. I said he's happier, not that he's completely content.

That's like saying Iraq is safer now.....pretty low bar....and he's as insecure as ever. Go re watch his last appearance on Letterman

Definitely highly insecure
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and insecure are two different things?

Doesn't take a doctor to see it.

He comes accross anything but happy in that interview. My god where do you see the happiness in him there lol?

listening to him now, not years ago.

Miscommunication my bad B.

Haven't listened to him lately (no satellite radio) but i am a fan of his for sure. Glad he's happy nowadays

listening a long time ago.

All Howard chat.
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