to not like Norman, but everyone who has had any issue with the way the NFL has penalized and removed some of these celebrations should be in favor of crap like this. Norman is a good one to be at the head of this after being penalized for firing a nonexistent arrow with a nonexistent freaking bow a few weeks ago.
to not like Norman, but everyone who has had any issue with the way the NFL has penalized and removed some of these celebrations should be in favor of crap like this. Norman is a good one to be at the head of this after being penalized for firing a nonexistent arrow with a nonexistent freaking bow a few weeks ago.
I think Vernon Davis being flagged for a finger roll (can't jump enough to dunk it) has a right to spearhead this. Or Beckham getting fined for taking a picture of Cruz (yes, I know it's technically against the rules). Norman deserved his flag (I'm guessing they wouldn't be too happy with someone doing a "gun" impression either).
RE: I know as Giants fans we are supposed to be obligated
to not like Norman, but everyone who has had any issue with the way the NFL has penalized and removed some of these celebrations should be in favor of crap like this. Norman is a good one to be at the head of this after being penalized for firing a nonexistent arrow with a nonexistent freaking bow a few weeks ago.
Was going to post something similar. The NFL is losing control. Their take take take take mentality with every decision is catching up to them and not only are fans starting to make it known (lower ratings) you have their own employees beginning to make noise as well.
I hope Norman does something (I doubt he does though).
not sure how they can suspend/fine him. On the field, obviously it's a "prop". But Peyton was a walking beer commercial during the SB celebration!
True, but that was a SB win celebration after the game ended. Something Josh Norman will never get to experience. This is drinking on the sideline before the game. Just a tad of a difference. Listen, the NFL sucks now, I agree with him wholeheartedly on that. But this isn't going to fix anything.
not sure how they can suspend/fine him. On the field, obviously it's a "prop". But Peyton was a walking beer commercial during the SB celebration!
True, but that was a SB win celebration after the game ended. Something Josh Norman will never get to experience. This is drinking on the sideline before the game. Just a tad of a difference. Listen, the NFL sucks now, I agree with him wholeheartedly on that. But this isn't going to fix anything.
I agree, though I don't get the 'outrage' over his fine. I thought the flag was warranted there. Most of the other celebration flags/fines are idiotic though.
one the job, technically. So yeah, he'd absolutely get fined for it and that fine would make sense. Its up to him whether its worth it to pay that fine and any other repercussions from the organization.
giants#1 : 2:11 pm : link : reply
Norman deserved his flag (I'm guessing they wouldn't be too happy with someone doing a "gun" impression either).
How in the heck do you justify that penalty? Also the 'ol shooting fish in a barrel and blowing the smoke from your gun before putting it back in your fake holster is a celebration that has been done by many.
giants#1 : 2:11 pm : link : reply
Norman deserved his flag (I'm guessing they wouldn't be too happy with someone doing a "gun" impression either).
How in the heck do you justify that penalty? Also the 'ol shooting fish in a barrel and blowing the smoke from your gun before putting it back in your fake holster is a celebration that has been done by many.
Recently? I don't recall seeing it in a while (since the Goodell crackdown on celebrations).
A player for the "Redskins" shooting a bow and arrow and you don't see how that could be offensive? I'm not personally offended by it, but in today's PC world, I can see flagging/fining that far more than the Vernon Davis finger roll.
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Dave in Hoboken : 3:17 pm : link : reply
you know if Beckham did something as meaningless as the bow and arrow celebration, it'd be made into a big deal. Zero sympathy.
We complain because the officials and league are calling Beckham on things that they shouldn't, so we have no sympathy for others that are getting hit with the same bs instead of being upset at the league for penalizing any of them?
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Dave in Hoboken : 3:17 pm : link : reply
you know if Beckham did something as meaningless as the bow and arrow celebration, it'd be made into a big deal. Zero sympathy.
We complain because the officials and league are calling Beckham on things that they shouldn't, so we have no sympathy for others that are getting hit with the same bs instead of being upset at the league for penalizing any of them?
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Dave in Hoboken : 3:17 pm : link : reply
you know if Beckham did something as meaningless as the bow and arrow celebration, it'd be made into a big deal. Zero sympathy.
We complain because the officials and league are calling Beckham on things that they shouldn't, so we have no sympathy for others that are getting hit with the same bs instead of being upset at the league for penalizing any of them?
I have no sympathy for Norman due to the coddling he got after the game last year. The Beckham 'launch' was way over the line, but Norman was FAR from innocent in that disaster and certainly not the victim he's been portrayed as. He's done far more to raise tensions (i.e. hit on Beckham) since then too.
Now Vernon Davis getting fined for a finger roll is ridiculous.
So it's ok if the league does things that you guys are against
so long as you don't like the player. But otherwise it is something that is ruining the game.
No. I can understand the league fining guys for tasers, guns, arrows though. I understand the consistency argument, though I think the bigger question there is why wasn't Berry flagged/fined, especially since he used a "prop", rather than why was Norman fined?
But I agree with you that celebrations in general should be allowed. For example, I don't understand why a group of players aren't allowed to dance together after a TD. Or basically do anything beyond slapping each other 5 (which will probably be banned shortly).
because of Beckham (yes, his name comes first) and Norman, but they have gone way too far. What are they saying? That any kind of personal celebration after a TD is a penalty? How is shooting a football that you just scored with, any more unsportsmanlike than spiking that ball? It's ridiculous. And the bow and arrow? Whats the problem with that? Is the NFL worried that Native Americans might be offended? When they allow the franchise to keep the insulting name- The Redskins? I don't care how many Native Americans they can find who are not offended by the name, its no different than calling African Americans Negroes. I like Josh Norman now. Hated him for his instigating of Beckham, but guess what, he found Beckham's Kryptonite and now the entire league knows it. Its good for Beckham too, because it has forced him to deal with his emotions which tend to get the better of him at times. Norman should crack a brew on the sideline and smoke a cigarette in honor of the Snake and Lenny Dawson.
they've been around a while. They started because players would mock celebrations of other (TO mocking Emmitt's star celebration, teams mocking the dirty bird, etc) and that would escalate things occasionally. IIRC, they first banned 'taunting' celebrations, but then basically banned everything to eliminate any 'judgment' calls for the refs.
The NFL led by Goodell has pursued more revenue to the detriment. Saying they protect the quality of the game and doing what they do is their biggest hypocracy.
to not like Norman, but everyone who has had any issue with the way the NFL has penalized and removed some of these celebrations should be in favor of crap like this. Norman is a good one to be at the head of this after being penalized for firing a nonexistent arrow with a nonexistent freaking bow a few weeks ago.
I think Vernon Davis being flagged for a finger roll (can't jump enough to dunk it) has a right to spearhead this.
I know I'll get killed for this especially because my stance has been so "fuck Josh Norman" since Carolina last year but I actually am starting to like him a little. He's kind of a funny dude. Don't get me wrong, I think he's still overrated as a player and I hope he fails every time he steps on the field but I just don't hate the guy as much as I thought I did.
I get there should be a balance, but it's tilted too much right now.
Not sure drinking a beer on the sideline will make his coach happy, but he's right about the penalties.
I do think it would be cool if maybe he had a game of cornhole going with the cornerbacks while the offense was on the field.
my bad
He drinks a whole barrel and I will call him Captain Leader Legend
Or google Josh Norman Beer it's everywhere
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Bingo!
I think Vernon Davis being flagged for a finger roll (can't jump enough to dunk it) has a right to spearhead this. Or Beckham getting fined for taking a picture of Cruz (yes, I know it's technically against the rules). Norman deserved his flag (I'm guessing they wouldn't be too happy with someone doing a "gun" impression either).
Was going to post something similar. The NFL is losing control. Their take take take take mentality with every decision is catching up to them and not only are fans starting to make it known (lower ratings) you have their own employees beginning to make noise as well.
I hope Norman does something (I doubt he does though).
The only person Norman plays cornhole with is Beckham.
They have enough stupid penalties in the game.
True, but that was a SB win celebration after the game ended. Something Josh Norman will never get to experience. This is drinking on the sideline before the game. Just a tad of a difference. Listen, the NFL sucks now, I agree with him wholeheartedly on that. But this isn't going to fix anything.
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not sure how they can suspend/fine him. On the field, obviously it's a "prop". But Peyton was a walking beer commercial during the SB celebration!
True, but that was a SB win celebration after the game ended. Something Josh Norman will never get to experience. This is drinking on the sideline before the game. Just a tad of a difference. Listen, the NFL sucks now, I agree with him wholeheartedly on that. But this isn't going to fix anything.
I agree, though I don't get the 'outrage' over his fine. I thought the flag was warranted there. Most of the other celebration flags/fines are idiotic though.
Norman deserved his flag (I'm guessing they wouldn't be too happy with someone doing a "gun" impression either).
How in the heck do you justify that penalty? Also the 'ol shooting fish in a barrel and blowing the smoke from your gun before putting it back in your fake holster is a celebration that has been done by many.
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giants#1 : 2:11 pm : link : reply
Norman deserved his flag (I'm guessing they wouldn't be too happy with someone doing a "gun" impression either).
How in the heck do you justify that penalty? Also the 'ol shooting fish in a barrel and blowing the smoke from your gun before putting it back in your fake holster is a celebration that has been done by many.
Recently? I don't recall seeing it in a while (since the Goodell crackdown on celebrations).
A player for the "Redskins" shooting a bow and arrow and you don't see how that could be offensive? I'm not personally offended by it, but in today's PC world, I can see flagging/fining that far more than the Vernon Davis finger roll.
Imagine this board if Beckham threatened to drink beer at a game. Haha, i almost wish he did, BBI would explode.
Offensive to Native Americans? One of them would be Josh Norman who is part Native American from both sides of his family.
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you know if Beckham did something as meaningless as the bow and arrow celebration, it'd be made into a big deal. Zero sympathy.
Imagine this board if Beckham threatened to drink beer at a game. Haha, i almost wish he did, BBI would explode.
Oh, boy. It certainly would.
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A player for the "Redskins" shooting a bow and arrow and you don't see how that could be offensive?
Offensive to Native Americans? One of them would be Josh Norman who is part Native American from both sides of his family.
That's like Dan Snyder parading a couple of Native Americans around claiming they aren't offended by the name "Redskins". Come on now.
Dave in Hoboken : 3:17 pm : link : reply
you know if Beckham did something as meaningless as the bow and arrow celebration, it'd be made into a big deal. Zero sympathy.
We complain because the officials and league are calling Beckham on things that they shouldn't, so we have no sympathy for others that are getting hit with the same bs instead of being upset at the league for penalizing any of them?
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Dave in Hoboken : 3:17 pm : link : reply
you know if Beckham did something as meaningless as the bow and arrow celebration, it'd be made into a big deal. Zero sympathy.
We complain because the officials and league are calling Beckham on things that they shouldn't, so we have no sympathy for others that are getting hit with the same bs instead of being upset at the league for penalizing any of them?
In Norman's case? No, I don't. None.
Eric Berry not only did this but also used the ball as a prop. And the NFL put it up on their website for being awesone
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Dave in Hoboken : 3:17 pm : link : reply
you know if Beckham did something as meaningless as the bow and arrow celebration, it'd be made into a big deal. Zero sympathy.
We complain because the officials and league are calling Beckham on things that they shouldn't, so we have no sympathy for others that are getting hit with the same bs instead of being upset at the league for penalizing any of them?
I have no sympathy for Norman due to the coddling he got after the game last year. The Beckham 'launch' was way over the line, but Norman was FAR from innocent in that disaster and certainly not the victim he's been portrayed as. He's done far more to raise tensions (i.e. hit on Beckham) since then too.
Now Vernon Davis getting fined for a finger roll is ridiculous.
No. I can understand the league fining guys for tasers, guns, arrows though. I understand the consistency argument, though I think the bigger question there is why wasn't Berry flagged/fined, especially since he used a "prop", rather than why was Norman fined?
But I agree with you that celebrations in general should be allowed. For example, I don't understand why a group of players aren't allowed to dance together after a TD. Or basically do anything beyond slapping each other 5 (which will probably be banned shortly).
The NFL led by Goodell has pursued more revenue to the detriment. Saying they protect the quality of the game and doing what they do is their biggest hypocracy.
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to not like Norman, but everyone who has had any issue with the way the NFL has penalized and removed some of these celebrations should be in favor of crap like this. Norman is a good one to be at the head of this after being penalized for firing a nonexistent arrow with a nonexistent freaking bow a few weeks ago.
I think Vernon Davis being flagged for a finger roll (can't jump enough to dunk it) has a right to spearhead this.
This is why Vernon does the finger roll...
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