NFT: Friday Yanks chat - NYP article on infield prospects,

he had a very long swing, and I wasn't very impressed. But he's young and who knows the growth potential, or whether to really make anything of those clips. Thoughts on him from those who've seen him more.

also from the Post earlier this week on Dillon Tate...doesn't sound too good but it's one man's (one scout's?) opinion...

any thoughts on Dillon...being in the Midwest, I don't see a lot of news about the Yanks farm system/prospects...
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although he is still young and learning, seems there is a lot of coaching up to do.

I really like the haul the yanks got back, but I still feel as if they are missing the one big time prospect. Torres sounds like has serious potential, however I fail to see a Kris Bryant, Addison Russell, Noah Syndergaard types in any of the deals. Before they got rid of Chap, Miller and Beltran, I was really hoping they'd land a big timer. You just don't know yet of course and seems like a lot of the prized pieces were on teams not contending for a playoff spot.

something to the extent of "fuck off with that dog whistling bullshit." He noted that his stuff is most of the way back, even if the results aren't there yet, and while he has challenges the talent is still apparent.

In comment 13184054 GuzzaBlue said:

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although he is still young and learning, seems there is a lot of coaching up to do. I really like the haul the yanks got back, but I still feel as if they are missing the one big time prospect. Torres sounds like has serious potential, however I fail to see a Kris Bryant, Addison Russell, Noah Syndergaard types in any of the deals. Before they got rid of Chap, Miller and Beltran, I was really hoping they'd land a big timer. You just don't know yet of course and seems like a lot of the prized pieces were on teams not contending for a playoff spot.

Bogaerts isn't a perfect comparison, but that's the sort of production you hope for from Torres, .290 hitter with mid-.300s OBP and 15-20 HR potential. That's a very valuable player

You're not getting a Kris Bryant for those guys.

I wouldn't put too much stock in one anonymous scout's carping.

Law said he's going to be a star. Will likely be a top 10-15 prospect heading into the season at 20 years old. Sounds like a blue chip guy to me

are loaded and both Torres and Jimenez (supposedly they could choose 1 of them from the Cubs) look like future stars.

Torres (19) and Frasier (21) are likely to be top 25 prospects entering next season. Frasier will likely never be the #1 overall prospect like Bryant since a big season will likely earn him a call-up, but a strong year in Trenton for Torres can certainly get him into the top 10.

is a HOF caliber pure talent. Those types just aren't traded. Seems to me that the top, top elite level minor league talent is a tick "down" right now in terms of "can't miss stars".

Sheffield might as well. That works for me. They also got a handful of lesser prospects who could be useful.

In comment 13184163 Greg from LI said:

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Sheffield might as well. That works for me. They also got a handful of lesser prospects who could be useful.

Greg,
Just to be clear I'm not even talking about the Yankees. I'm talking top 3-5 prospects in baseball I'm not seeing the "wow" factor like in years past. Part of that is a HUGE amount of promotions in 2016 of major names like Urias, Benintendi etc

and rarely get traded. The Yanks probably acquired the two best prospects dealt at the deadline, and three more big-time prospects to boot (McKinney, Sheffield and Tate). They did quite well. No guarantee that they all make it, no guarantee that any of them make it. But a good chance that they get significant contributions as early as this year.

Bryant has been known to be special going back to college. A guy like that isn't traded as a prospect unless it's in a mega deal for a superstar.

he was not traded, but rather drafted by the Cubs. Not sure why I thought that.

If Torres becomes Bogaerts I think we would all be very pleased with that. I guess I am overlooking it. We did get back a nice haul especially with some of the second tier prospects. Plus to be considered is this is not an offseason move with every team as a viable trading partner. They had to make it work with a buyer at the deadline with Beltran. A reliable 3-5 starter would be ideal in one of the deals, so I guess we will have to hold out to see what Tate develops into.

In comment 13184136 DanMetroMan said:

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is a HOF caliber pure talent. Those types just aren't traded. Seems to me that the top, top elite level minor league talent is a tick "down" right now in terms of "can't miss stars".

Probably because of the influx of top prospects called up the past two years.

best at their position players did the '98 team have - best team they may have ever had.

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best at their position players did the '98 team have - best team they may have ever had.

? The 1998 Yankees had 5 all-stars

In comment 13184378 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13184375 section125 said: Quote: best at their position players did the '98 team have - best team they may have ever had. ? The 1998 Yankees had 5 all-stars

Yeah brain fart - think none of the players was considered the best at their position - 2nd or 3rd.

that's probably right - Jeter was an all-star but A-Rod was still a SS then and he started ahead of Jeter. Wells was the SP for the AL, though. Bernie was hurt for the game or he might have started.

Of all the regulars or semi- regulars, one of them was a below-average bat (Chad Curtis) and even that was only slightly. They hit for average, they hit for power (10 guys with 10 or more homers), they drew a ton of walks. They didn't have one ace, but they had four excellent starters. They had a deep pem anchored by the best in the business. On top of it all, they were a solid defensive team.

..if was basically Griffey and then Bernie and there were a few years there where Griffey was hurt.

But that arm became a liability as time went on. Of course none of his successors have distinguished themselves with an OF arm either.

before 'moneyball' became popular. Of the regulars, Posada had the lowest OBP at .350:

Bernie: 422
Raines: 395
Jeter: 384
O'Neill: 372
Brosius: 371
Knob: 361
Tino: 355
Curtis: 355
Straw: 354
Posada 350

And basically everyone contributed offensively. No 30+ HR guy, but 8 guys with 17+ (Bernie, Jeter, O'Neill, Brosius, Knob, Tino, Straw, Posada), 5 guys with 15+ SBs (Bernie, Jeter, O'Neill, Knob, Curtis), etc. Basically, they got contributions from all 9 guys in the lineup. Combine that with the high OBP and you're going to have a ton of success.

to have that kind of team again. It seems like in terms of the top 10 or 11 field players that might be a possibility. Pitching ... not sure at the moment.