Christian Peter vs. Josh Brown

and Brown the better kicker.

Hope Johnson: BAD, Randy! Go to your corner!!

but it was a different era, it came with strict conditions, and those conditions were adhered to before and during his time with the team. I still question whether it was right, but the team gave him a bona fide second chance.

and the NFL handling of Domestic Violence.

Again, I suggest watch the PSA the NFL has been broadcasting.

How is this consistent with how they handled Josh Brown?


NFL No More PSA - ( New Window )

Frank Ferrara literally killed a Karate dude with a 4 iron in Staten Island before the Giants signed him.

to me.

For starters - it's a kicker we're talking about. Granted, I get that he's a human being with a family to support (whether through alimony payments or otherwise), but a business is a business and just from the bottom line perspective, whether they had the information or not, it made little sense to sign him when he had that looming over him. He was too easily replaceable.

OK - they sign him anyway, and you figure 'well, they must know something'. They categorically deny that he had been in the wrong, leading you to believe that given the scarcity of evidence, the reluctance of the witness to testify, no other eyewitnesses, and an NFL investigation that could do little more than offer a 1 game suspension - that they were standing behind him because maybe he was wronged somehow. If that were the case, they should have gone out and said 'we know he was wrong, but it was once and he's made amends, he deserves a second chance'.

And now, we find out that the NFL/Giants knew more than we thought, there was a history of abuse, which was known to them prior to re-signing him and when they made the statements the last time this came up before his suspension.

Why anyone in the Giants org would do this is beyond me. I would be OK with them cutting him once they found out (preferred). I would have tolerated them retaining his services, but admitting that he had a problem and it was behind him (not my favorite choice, but defensible). But this? This seems to be backwards in every way.

In comment 13184267 ThatLimerickGuy said:

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Frank Ferrara literally killed a Karate dude with a 4 iron in Staten Island before the Giants signed him.

Way different!!!! He wasn't married to or in a domestic partnership!
Sarcasm off!!

If Brown was a high profile player at a position of importance he'd still be on the team! That's how they roll, I don't care what organization it is.

Brown did. In fact Brown had another incident as a Giant at the Pro Bowl while he was still being investigated for the incident he was eventually suspended for.

Didn't he also have to sit out a year for treatment before playing a down?

In comment 13184404 PeterinAtlanta said:

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Didn't he also have to sit out a year for treatment before playing a down?

I thought he molested, groped and forcibly kissed two women. I remember thinking at the time that it was bad because it was two different women, and I think both of them reported him AT THE TIME.

But Giants gave him a second chance and as far as I know, he learned his lesson and never had any problems. Petitgout was the real asshole from that era.

Peter beat the shit out of the parking-lot attendant who parked his car at the restaurant. He had at least three documented sex attackx. In one he pressed a woman to a pool table and held her down until she sucked him off. He didn't do prison time because of Osborne's influence in the school and state. He would become a sennator after he left NU. He was a powerful political figure.

Wellington Mara used to eat at the family's restaurant in Middletown. It was a prime consideration in the decision to give the defensive tackle a chance with the Giants. The alcohol excuse, though ultimately worthless, because the vast majority of drunks are not sexual predators, was a home-job diagnosis secured by the Maras from a psychiatrist who was a friend.

I think with Brown, one of the facets of his behavior is how life mirrors pornography. Apparently he had a 50 Shades of Grey relationship with his wife, who assented to being a sex slave in their marriage. Brown's conduct was criminal. The woman was violated. But that book made the author a very rich woman in England. And, of course, other novels have been written that "go a little farther."

Justification for sucker punching a team mate. Which Steve Smith did and he was a loud live on Brown I saw. Just another example of shitty behavior which was brushed aside and will be again.

The NFL And sadly this country will alibi for assholes and violent abusers if they like them enough. Bill Cosby whose behavior couldnt Have been hidden without many staying silent. Roman Polanski raped a 13 year old. How many A lister actors work w that pile of shit. I guess I missed that scum bag Steve Smith's tirade against Hardy right? Never mind the political figures whose behavior many waive away on both parties.

So not all but I bet many here have looked aside or continued to support at one point or another someone similar to Brown.

In comment 13184544 Vanzetti said:

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In comment 13184404 PeterinAtlanta said: Quote: Didn't he also have to sit out a year for treatment before playing a down? I thought he molested, groped and forcibly kissed two women. I remember thinking at the time that it was bad because it was two different women, and I think both of them reported him AT THE TIME. But Giants gave him a second chance and as far as I know, he learned his lesson and never had any problems. Petitgout was the real asshole from that era.

Petitgout? Bring me up to speed

In comment 13184256 pjcas18 said:

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and the NFL handling of Domestic Violence. Again, I suggest watch the PSA the NFL has been broadcasting. How is this consistent with how they handled Josh Brown? NFL No More PSA - ( New Window )

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It's too bad Eli didn't walk the walk this week, when asked.
If you are going to lead the PSA clamoring, then don't
climb into a shell when asked about it.
Now, I am about done with the seriously flawed kicker!

was placed into rehab and had councikong before he was given a chance.