1. Why did the Giants wait until Thursday to fly to London ? This way they have to sleep it off on Friday which leaves them only one day to practice, if teams even practice on Saturday. Meanwhile the Rams have been there for a week, practicing in that environment, if not the stadium itself for a week. This would appear to give the Rams a clear advantage.
2. The whole Josh Brown thing: Most of the other threads here have had the theme that Josh Brown is a horrible human being/ Josh Brown is a misunderstood scape goat. I don't want to get into that. What should have been perfectly clear since last winter is that Josh Brown could not play football for the New York Giants. While he was under investigation for one Domestic Violence incident, he intimidated his wife to the extent that the NFL/Giants had to change her hotel room during the Pro Bowl. The obvious move here was not to resign Brown and look for another kicker for this season. Instead they have a huge scandal now and have been forced to sign the first scrub available to kick.
These are the decisions you pay a General Manager to make, not Mara and not McAdoo. Despite years of poor drafts, bad contacts and poor cap management I did not jump on the bandwagon calling for Reese's head at the end of last season. At the time I though that despite his poor judgement it would be less harmful than bring someone new in. At this point if the Giants go on to have another bad season, Reese is probably gone anyway. At least now its well deserved.
It's a business trip and should be treated that way.
Careful Ron. Your anti-Reese bias is showing
Careful Ron. Your anti-Reese bias is showing
They go to London and do all of this in a hotel? Plus, the field is a long bus ride from the hotel too. The practice fields are horrible too. Do you want to hear about an ACL tear because we practiced on a sloppy field?
It is NOT just about a time zone change. Time to get out of your recliner and grab a bag of Doritos.
Did he smack around browns wife?
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General managers aren't responsible for scheduling travel and planning practices. Additionally, how do you know Reese didn't want Brown cut, but was overruled by Mara/McAdoo?
Careful Ron. Your anti-Reese bias is showing
If a rookie head coach can overrule the GM, this organization is more fucked up than I thought. As for Mara overruling him, its possible but not likely. Mara isn't George Steinbrenner.
I'll bet you travel plans were made in July and that McAdoo was given his preference. The GM doesn't manage the football operations in season. And shouldn't.
I've been to London a few times for work, and that hasn't been my experience. It's usually the way back that messes you up.
Did he smack around browns wife?
Reese fan or not, it's absurd to assert that he bears no responsibility for the continued presence of Josh Brown on this team since the Pro Bowl. If decisions like this aren't in the hands of the GM, then why on earth do you have a GM?
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General managers aren't responsible for scheduling travel and planning practices. Additionally, how do you know Reese didn't want Brown cut, but was overruled by Mara/McAdoo?
Careful Ron. Your anti-Reese bias is showing
If a rookie head coach can overrule the GM, this organization is more fucked up than I thought. As for Mara overruling him, its possible but not likely. Mara isn't George Steinbrenner.
Another person that doesn't understand travel. There is nothing wrong leaving Thursday - nothing. Travelled to Europe often and worked the next day for a lot more hours than the Giants will work three days later.
Additionally, most of the players are in their mid-to late-twenties. Do you really think players of that age are going to have that much trouble adjusting?
The Giants have taken the London trip before (while JR was the GM) and they won. I think they know what they're doing.
As far as the whole Josh Brown thing I put that more on Mara than on JR.
They go to London and do all of this in a hotel? Plus, the field is a long bus ride from the hotel too. The practice fields are horrible too. Do you want to hear about an ACL tear because we practiced on a sloppy field?
It is NOT just about a time zone change. Time to get out of your recliner and grab a bag of Doritos.
This. They spent a couple days at their facility getting their regular film room, weight room, and practice field work. Who knows how limited they would have been doing all of those things in London.
The Rams primary reason for traveling early was there was no point flying back to LA before flying across the pond
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No its not. The HC may have stated a preference but the GM had the final call. Decades ago the Giants had two straight games on the West Coast. It was reported that Parcells decided to practice out west for the entire two weeks. Still Young or Accorsi, I don't remember who had to approve it. Since it was Parcells there was no question that they would rubber stamp it. McAdoo is not Parcells. He's a rookie head coach with 6 game experience who's off to a shaky start to say the least. McAdoo might prefer to sleep in his own bed. Its up to the more experienced GM to overrule him on this. When knows ? Maybe they just didn't want to spend the money. What was supposed to be a home game for the Rams in name only has now become a real home game for them, as they have had time to practice and get acclimated while the Giants have not.
There's a ton of speculation and projecting in this.
If you believe McAdoo doesn't have the power or reputation to make the call on this, then why do you believe a GM who was pretty much given his final notice that he will be the next guy out the door does? Jerry Reeses is no George Young.
I have to think that Mara and Reece and Possibly
Mac . about the entire situation .
This is not your Star Face of the franchise type player .
They should have dumped him after the Pro-Bowl incident .
We were considered by many as a Flagship type organization .
Very poor decision . Unless somehow Mara was mis-informed
then Its mostly on him but don't tell me Reece is
sqeaky clean in this mess .
First of all, they have a charter and can leave whenever they want.
Second, speaking as someone who travels for a living... there are ways to beat jet lag and McAdoo addressed that in an interview. You start adjusting before you leave. You alter your sleep times to get closer to London time even before you leave the US.
Yes. They do.
Agree... as overblown as the "distraction" thing that is thrown around by people (media/most fans) who have no idea what it is like to play on a competitive team.
I'd imagine NORMALLY Reese would make the call on a kicker, but given this situation that call is coming from the owner.
In other words, if we don't agree with your view of how the Giants organizational hierarchy works, we're all wrong? Including the Giants?
I'm sure a lot of NFL coaches would be running to play for a team where the description of the job includes 'no authority unless your name is Bill Parcells'