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est1986 : 10/23/2016 1:25 pm
This fucking guy, after showing promise early has been a absolute nightmare. He can go up and catch it with the very best.. But does anyone else get afraid watching him after the catch? It's either going to look like he has an easy first and he falls down short, or he jumps up and lands on his head, or he turns it over. Dude is "THE WORST" giants receiver "AFTER THE CATCH" I've seen by far. His blocking is equally bad he totally whiffs and misses assignments blocking. Odell is 6 inches shorter, 50 pounds lighter and can block better than Larry. Tye and Adams Have been better so far despite neither of them really doing anything either but Donnell is really, really bad. CUT HIM before the 1pm games are over.. Please and thanks.
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He lacks the brains of an average football player  
Sackrecord92 : 10/23/2016 2:37 pm : link
I'm done with him
I think the Defense actually likes when Eli throws to him  
Jimmy Googs : 10/23/2016 2:38 pm : link
as they feel something good will happen for them.

He should have been cut last week for his idiotic play. Now it's just mismanagement on the coaches and front office.
RE: The Weekly Cut Larry Donnell thread  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/23/2016 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13187435 SHO'NUFF said:
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the guy is a negative player, just like Rueben Randle...and yet, the coaches keep trotting these players out onto the field... blame Larry all you want, but it's the coach who lets him play and Eli keeps throwing to him.

If last week's 3rd down bail out wasn't bad enough to keep Donnell on the bench, nothing will.


Well that's the thing, and I do think the reaction on this thread is a little harsh... though as I said above in my previous post, I agree that it's time to move on from him.

He has some skills. He's made some nice catches for us. He's a big target in the endzone (where you can't fumble!) and he does a good job finding soft spots in the zone and getting open around the marker. As a blocker, he's maybe a little below average but not a huge liability. I don't think he's "useless" as some have said.

But it's not just that he fumbles so much, it's that he continues to fumble in the same way... plowing into the ground head first and having no regard for the football. That to me shows he simply isn't going to improve and you just can not have a player out there who is going to continue to turn the ball over at such an an alarming rate.
He's terrible  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/23/2016 2:40 pm : link
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Just lousy player  
rdt288 : 10/23/2016 2:47 pm : link
-no ferocity no aggression no blocking ability and fumbles. Sound great
He is a fool and dumb football player.  
BlueHurricane : 10/23/2016 2:47 pm : link
Has to go.
RE: I don't know why  
Eman11 : 10/23/2016 2:56 pm : link
In comment 13187497 djm said:
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They don't just use Donnell strictly as a red zone weapon. He's of no use outside of the 10-15 yard line. Donnell should not be allllwed to run with the football. Period.


If they insist on keeping him, I 100% agree with you. That's the only time he should see the field and it should be as a receiver only. I don't want to see him in pass pro in the red zone.
Players that have made me as uneasy as Donnell  
David in LA : 10/23/2016 3:05 pm : link
are Dodge and Randle. Not good company to be in.
At least Dowell can execute the tip drill  
Canton : 10/23/2016 3:15 pm : link








































For the other team..
Donnell  
Canton : 10/23/2016 3:16 pm : link
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Nah, we'll probably keep him  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/23/2016 3:18 pm : link
for another few years at least.
This TE-by-committee is just as bad as last year's 3 RB-by-committee  
SHO'NUFF : 10/23/2016 3:19 pm : link
just stick with someone...
Like.. what is the upside with this player?  
arcarsenal : 10/23/2016 3:26 pm : link
I don't see an excellent athlete with raw tools that you try to work with.. I don't see a really smart football player that you hope can overcome limited tools.. I don't see a great blocker who you are trying to develop as a pass catcher or vice versa.

What exactly are the Giants hoping Larry Donnell becomes?

I know he made a great catch to beat SF last year.. I know he had that 3 TD game against Washington in 2014.. but what else is there aside from a billion failed hurdles, awkward falls, dropped passes, blown assignments and fumbles? He sucks.
Donnell does something well  
chris r : 10/23/2016 3:26 pm : link
he's very good redzone target - in fact our only large mismatch there.

He also doesn't get a turnover on every touch.

He is pretty awful overall though. I'd just use him in the redzone.

On that play today, I literally said out loud  
Mad Mike : 10/23/2016 3:30 pm : link
Ok, he's learned not to hurdle.... Fuck.
He's a triple threat  
jeff57 : 10/23/2016 3:36 pm : link
Can't catch, can't hold on to the ball, and can't block.
RE: He's a triple threat  
Larry in Pencilvania : 10/23/2016 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13187591 jeff57 said:
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Can't catch, can't hold on to the ball, and can't block.


So you're saying he's perfect for the offense?

CUT HIS ASS
On Tuesday nights  
Paulie Walnuts : 10/23/2016 3:41 pm : link
my wife likes to remind me to put out the Larry Donnell by the curb
Had they ponied up a little more money  
jeff57 : 10/23/2016 3:44 pm : link
they could have Delanie Walker or Bennett,
RE: Had they ponied up a little more money  
arcarsenal : 10/23/2016 3:49 pm : link
In comment 13187611 jeff57 said:
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they could have Delanie Walker or Bennett,


Not really. We were in a cap crunch when Bennett was here which is why we couldn't match the 4 year deal he got from the Bears and I'm not sure when we were supposed to sign Walker.. he signed an extension with TEN while he was still under contract.
Cut Donnell  
XBRONX : 10/23/2016 3:55 pm : link
and sign Jim Dray
RE: in the words of Gary Cohen  
BitRusty : 10/23/2016 4:03 pm : link
In comment 13187385 rmkabadi said:
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Donell IS ACTUALLY "a net negative."


Izzy?
Sign Jeremy Shockey  
spike : 10/23/2016 4:16 pm : link
who will still do a better job at 36.
He is a STIFF!  
Manning10 : 10/23/2016 4:19 pm : link
a walking turnover machine. Another one of Jerrys boys.
RE: RE: Had they ponied up a little more money  
jeff57 : 10/23/2016 4:25 pm : link
In comment 13187621 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13187611 jeff57 said:


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they could have Delanie Walker or Bennett,



Not really. We were in a cap crunch when Bennett was here which is why we couldn't match the 4 year deal he got from the Bears and I'm not sure when we were supposed to sign Walker.. he signed an extension with TEN while he was still under contract.

I'm talking about when Walker initially signed with Tennessee. And they also could have gotten Bennett for this season.
Donnell fucks up 10 times for every 1 great play...  
SHO'NUFF : 10/23/2016 4:43 pm : link
not a good trade-off.
While I agree whole-heartedly  
gmenatlarge : 10/23/2016 4:55 pm : link
The real question is how can this coaching staff put up with this and keep playing this stiff, at some point his counter-productive play becomes totally UNACCCEPTABLE!
play the rookie  
gtt350 : 10/23/2016 5:23 pm : link
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RE: While I agree whole-heartedly  
Brick72 : 10/23/2016 5:39 pm : link
In comment 13187734 gmenatlarge said:
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The real question is how can this coaching staff put up with this and keep playing this stiff, at some point his counter-productive play becomes totally UNACCCEPTABLE!

And that is the great question. What are the circumstances where a coach can honestly say Donnell is a better option on the play then someone else? They are pretty rare. I used to be a big fan of Donnell but simply can't see his value anymore. Cut him, bring in someone else, anything. But cut him and don't bring him back.
Soft  
John in Loudoun : 10/23/2016 5:48 pm : link
he is not a football player.
Did we see anything today that was worse than stuff Donnell  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/23/2016 6:39 pm : link
has previously done? Of course not, but they didn't get rid of him then and there's no reason to think they'll get rid of him now. It's puzzling how a player can be allowed to HURT the team for so long and not even fall down the depth chart, let alone be cut.
Its tough to find  
YANKEE28 : 10/23/2016 7:20 pm : link
a replacement in the middle of a season.

One possibility is Brian Leonhardt, who is currently on the Vikings Practice Squad. He has been in the NFL 3 years, has some catches, and has been a 'final cut' type with the Raiders, 49ers, and Vikings.

He is well worth a shot and could develop with the right opportunity.
Nows the time to make this move  
DavidinBMNY : 10/23/2016 7:40 pm : link
Its the bye. Make it happen Jerry.
I'll have to watch the fumble again  
santacruzom : 10/23/2016 8:27 pm : link
But I honestly can't remember thinking he screwed it up. He was surrounded by seemingly half the defense, one member of which got a perfect hit on the ball. Or did I dream this?
if we cut this guy  
Enzo : 10/23/2016 8:41 pm : link
I'm sure he would join Rueben Randle, Preston Parker, and Unga on the list of guys who have gone from prominent roles / starters for this team to out of football.

Reese might be joining them at some point in the near future.
Donnell  
Marty866b : 10/23/2016 8:51 pm : link
The worst skill position player I have ever seen in the NFL. It is impossible to believe that there aren't MANY tight ends who have gotten cut by other teams who aren't better then him.
For the poster who said that Shockey at 36 would be better, I recently ran into him at the Fountainbleau and he is in great shape though of course,totally retired.
I understand Reese thinks  
rocco8112 : 10/23/2016 8:51 pm : link
TE's are not important. Or, at least not important enough to devote real cap or draft resources to. But, one of the real tragedies of the Eli era of Giants football is the inability of this franchise you get a reliable starter at the TE position. No one is saying we need a dynamic playmaking All-Pro at this spot. What this team does need is an NFL caliber stater who can run the routes, catch the ball, break the occasional tackle and complete their responsibilities in the run game. A player who can do this consistently for at least a three year period.

Donnell is not this player. He was not even a TE in college. He is project who now projects to jack shit. He hurts the team and he is the opposite of the player described above.

I do not want anyone to lose their job, but I do want the Giants to look elsewhere for a TE. Donnell if cut would likely not be signed by any NFL club.
You've got the Coach Killer  
ghost718 : 10/23/2016 9:25 pm : link
and now we have the Franchise Liquidator
RE: I'll have to watch the fumble again  
CooksCar55 : 10/23/2016 9:31 pm : link
In comment 13188064 santacruzom said:
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But I honestly can't remember thinking he screwed it up. He was surrounded by seemingly half the defense, one member of which got a perfect hit on the ball. Or did I dream this?


When you fumble, you screw up..put two hands on the ball and protect it..
his first fumble of the year, right?  
KWALL2 : 10/23/2016 9:32 pm : link
So cut him?
RE: his first fumble of the year, right?  
Enzo : 10/23/2016 9:43 pm : link
In comment 13188205 KWALL2 said:
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So cut him?

so you think he was playing well up until that?
Donnell and Newhouse are cases of addition by subtraction  
Torrag : 10/23/2016 9:44 pm : link
As is Wade but I couldn't fit him in the above topic line.

The sooner both no longer wear the Blue jersey the better.

Donnell can't block, drops the ball far too frequently, runs the wrong routes regularly and is awful at ball security.

I'm not sure I would cut himqbut I would certainly demote him  
Matt M. : 10/23/2016 9:46 pm : link
to the #3 (not #2) TE.
The rookie TE Adams  
LatHarv83 : 10/23/2016 9:47 pm : link
looks like the best TE on the roster physically. He looks the part, I guess he is just way too raw right now? I Just hope he can come along and play a bigger role in the 2nd half of the season because Donnell is horrible. I still wish there was a way we could have locked Bennett up when we had him although I know that's ancient history at this point
Steelers have a former NYG TE on their roster, Xavier Grimble  
FranknWeezer : 10/23/2016 9:49 pm : link
Anyone been watching him this year?
Grinble - ( New Window )
Donnell has been hurt a lot  
KWALL2 : 10/23/2016 10:02 pm : link
He's an average player who doesn't make much with some + and - to his game.

I wouldn't point to this guy as the problem on the offense. And cutting him doesn't help anything.
KWALL  
Marty866b : 10/23/2016 10:14 pm : link
Donnell is not an average player. The only thing he does average is catch the ball and saying he's average at that is generous. He is awful at every other facet of the game. He is not an NFL caliber football player.
I think every Giants fan knew he was gonna fumble the ball  
McNally's_Nuts : 10/23/2016 10:48 pm : link
On that play. It's as if the coaches lit into him last week for not running over a smaller defensive player to get the first down.

This week he tries to run over 2 of them.

He's basically the Ian Allen of tight ends
Donnell is a weird player in general  
LatHarv83 : 10/24/2016 9:50 am : link
I think it's fair to say he's athletic, but at the same time clumsy and slow. Those things should seem to be at odds with eachother, but he somehow pulls off the combination. He can't block and it kills the running game. He is a fumble machine. Yes, yesterday's fumble was his first this season but he makes you hold your breath constantly with his history and just last week had a scare vs Baltimore where the ball was in danger.

Its not just the fumble.  
Brown Recluse : 10/24/2016 10:19 am : link
Its the MISTAKES.

He is the same type of player as Reuben Randle.

Two big mistakes last week in running out of bounds and trying to leap over defenders with the ball in the air.

And then the fumble yesterday.

These are not "one time" issues either. They have plagued him his entire career here. At this point, he is not going to out grow them. He has had plenty of time. He is who he is. He epitomizes the mistake-prone nature of this team.

Sorry but this is not a player you want on the field.
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