Cut Larry Donnell thread

But I do feel we are a better team when he is not on the field.

In comment 13187370 robbieballs2003 said:

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But I do feel we are a better team when he is not on the field.

This.

In comment 13187370 robbieballs2003 said:

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But I do feel we are a better team when he is not on the field.

Couldn't agree more

+ 1,000,000

Donell IS ACTUALLY "a net negative."

In comment 13187381 Anakim said:

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In comment 13187370 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: But I do feel we are a better team when he is not on the field. Yup, gotta dump him Couldn't agree more

He's bad at everything and a moron to boot. Enough

where I actually expect a turnover every time he touches the ball.

It's time to move on.

in London.

Of Donnel and get a FB! PLay action is your friend.
Actually, Donnel isn' a horrible blocker, it is just that he tends to choose the wrong man to block.

In comment 13187395 Mike in Long Beach said:

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where I actually expect a turnover every time he touches the ball. It's time to move on.

+1000000000000

Can catch and can block. I'd take that over him. At this point Jeremy Shockey drunk and coked out off the street couldn't be worse, could he?

He really does nothing well. Low IQ player, drops passes, fumbles constantly, not a great blocker.. really just useless.

I am holding my breath everytime I see him on the field

TE off someones Practice Squad. Better than Larry.

In comment 13187418 arcarsenal said:

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He really does nothing well. Low IQ player, drops passes, fumbles constantly, not a great blocker.. really just useless.

Running out of bounds before he got the 1st down to avoid contact was just shameful for any football player let alone a tight end. He should have been cut then.

Nearly got Rainey destroyed for a safety when he just completely bypasses the LB he should be blocking. And this on top of the obvious ball security issues.

He's a risk to the rest of the team out there, got to move on.

In comment 13187421 gidiefor said:

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I am holding my breath everytime I see him on the field

I agree. He is a net negative. Adams could not possibly be worse.

the guy is a negative player, just like Rueben Randle...and yet, the coaches keep trotting these players out onto the field... blame Larry all you want, but it's the coach who lets him play and Eli keeps throwing to him.

If last week's 3rd down bail out wasn't bad enough to keep Donnell on the bench, nothing will.

We have 2 weeks. He needs to be cut, move Tye and Adams up on the depth chart and find someone else out there. He's the worst player on this team.

was Owen Daniels cooked? Just about 34 years old. Would be vet min.

Can't cut him

He raises my blood pressure.

is hard to call for someone's job to be eliminated, but I would cut him and pick up a street FB to help with the blocking. I do think this is his last year with the team, but I'd be stunned if that happened. We just aren't having a lot of luck at the position.

he proves me wrong. Enough already!

to make a move...or we need to live or die with Adams as our main guy.

In comment 13187443 AcidTest said:

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is hard to call for someone's job to be eliminated, but I would cut him and pick up a street FB to help with the blocking. I do think this is his last year with the team, but I'd be stunned if that happened. We just aren't having a lot of luck at the position.

McAdoo doesn't want to use a roster spot on a FB. I thought people were joking about it last year but he actually stated he rather have two TEs sets with Tye as the H and Donnell as the receiver. I guess that was the role that Johnson was going to be. As I said that Johnson injury was a huge hit to this coach playbook.

and give him a boat ticket back.

Sign Owen Daniels stat

Matt Dodge.

They don't just use Donnell strictly as a red zone weapon. He's of no use outside of the 10-15 yard line. Donnell should not be allllwed to run with the football. Period.

and a street FA who's looking to resurrect, or catch lightning in a bottle.

Hell, Chris Cooley? lol

Even a fullback?

Donnell is a problem.

I'm done with him

as they feel something good will happen for them.

He should have been cut last week for his idiotic play. Now it's just mismanagement on the coaches and front office.

In comment 13187435 SHO'NUFF said:

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the guy is a negative player, just like Rueben Randle...and yet, the coaches keep trotting these players out onto the field... blame Larry all you want, but it's the coach who lets him play and Eli keeps throwing to him. If last week's 3rd down bail out wasn't bad enough to keep Donnell on the bench, nothing will.

Well that's the thing, and I do think the reaction on this thread is a little harsh... though as I said above in my previous post, I agree that it's time to move on from him.

He has some skills. He's made some nice catches for us. He's a big target in the endzone (where you can't fumble!) and he does a good job finding soft spots in the zone and getting open around the marker. As a blocker, he's maybe a little below average but not a huge liability. I don't think he's "useless" as some have said.

But it's not just that he fumbles so much, it's that he continues to fumble in the same way... plowing into the ground head first and having no regard for the football. That to me shows he simply isn't going to improve and you just can not have a player out there who is going to continue to turn the ball over at such an an alarming rate.

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-no ferocity no aggression no blocking ability and fumbles. Sound great

Has to go.

In comment 13187497 djm said:

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They don't just use Donnell strictly as a red zone weapon. He's of no use outside of the 10-15 yard line. Donnell should not be allllwed to run with the football. Period.

If they insist on keeping him, I 100% agree with you. That's the only time he should see the field and it should be as a receiver only. I don't want to see him in pass pro in the red zone.

are Dodge and Randle. Not good company to be in.

For the other team..

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for another few years at least.

just stick with someone...

I don't see an excellent athlete with raw tools that you try to work with.. I don't see a really smart football player that you hope can overcome limited tools.. I don't see a great blocker who you are trying to develop as a pass catcher or vice versa.

What exactly are the Giants hoping Larry Donnell becomes?

I know he made a great catch to beat SF last year.. I know he had that 3 TD game against Washington in 2014.. but what else is there aside from a billion failed hurdles, awkward falls, dropped passes, blown assignments and fumbles? He sucks.

he's very good redzone target - in fact our only large mismatch there.

He also doesn't get a turnover on every touch.

He is pretty awful overall though. I'd just use him in the redzone.

Ok, he's learned not to hurdle.... Fuck.

Can't catch, can't hold on to the ball, and can't block.

In comment 13187591 jeff57 said:

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Can't catch, can't hold on to the ball, and can't block.

So you're saying he's perfect for the offense?

CUT HIS ASS

my wife likes to remind me to put out the Larry Donnell by the curb

they could have Delanie Walker or Bennett,

In comment 13187611 jeff57 said:

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they could have Delanie Walker or Bennett,

Not really. We were in a cap crunch when Bennett was here which is why we couldn't match the 4 year deal he got from the Bears and I'm not sure when we were supposed to sign Walker.. he signed an extension with TEN while he was still under contract.

and sign Jim Dray

In comment 13187385 rmkabadi said:

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Donell IS ACTUALLY "a net negative."

Izzy?

who will still do a better job at 36.

a walking turnover machine. Another one of Jerrys boys.

In comment 13187621 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 13187611 jeff57 said: Quote: they could have Delanie Walker or Bennett, Not really. We were in a cap crunch when Bennett was here which is why we couldn't match the 4 year deal he got from the Bears and I'm not sure when we were supposed to sign Walker.. he signed an extension with TEN while he was still under contract.

I'm talking about when Walker initially signed with Tennessee. And they also could have gotten Bennett for this season.

not a good trade-off.

The real question is how can this coaching staff put up with this and keep playing this stiff, at some point his counter-productive play becomes totally UNACCCEPTABLE!

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In comment 13187734 gmenatlarge said:

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The real question is how can this coaching staff put up with this and keep playing this stiff, at some point his counter-productive play becomes totally UNACCCEPTABLE!

And that is the great question. What are the circumstances where a coach can honestly say Donnell is a better option on the play then someone else? They are pretty rare. I used to be a big fan of Donnell but simply can't see his value anymore. Cut him, bring in someone else, anything. But cut him and don't bring him back.

he is not a football player.

has previously done? Of course not, but they didn't get rid of him then and there's no reason to think they'll get rid of him now. It's puzzling how a player can be allowed to HURT the team for so long and not even fall down the depth chart, let alone be cut.

a replacement in the middle of a season.

One possibility is Brian Leonhardt, who is currently on the Vikings Practice Squad. He has been in the NFL 3 years, has some catches, and has been a 'final cut' type with the Raiders, 49ers, and Vikings.

He is well worth a shot and could develop with the right opportunity.

Its the bye. Make it happen Jerry.

But I honestly can't remember thinking he screwed it up. He was surrounded by seemingly half the defense, one member of which got a perfect hit on the ball. Or did I dream this?

I'm sure he would join Rueben Randle, Preston Parker, and Unga on the list of guys who have gone from prominent roles / starters for this team to out of football.

Reese might be joining them at some point in the near future.

The worst skill position player I have ever seen in the NFL. It is impossible to believe that there aren't MANY tight ends who have gotten cut by other teams who aren't better then him.
For the poster who said that Shockey at 36 would be better, I recently ran into him at the Fountainbleau and he is in great shape though of course,totally retired.

TE's are not important. Or, at least not important enough to devote real cap or draft resources to. But, one of the real tragedies of the Eli era of Giants football is the inability of this franchise you get a reliable starter at the TE position. No one is saying we need a dynamic playmaking All-Pro at this spot. What this team does need is an NFL caliber stater who can run the routes, catch the ball, break the occasional tackle and complete their responsibilities in the run game. A player who can do this consistently for at least a three year period.

Donnell is not this player. He was not even a TE in college. He is project who now projects to jack shit. He hurts the team and he is the opposite of the player described above.

I do not want anyone to lose their job, but I do want the Giants to look elsewhere for a TE. Donnell if cut would likely not be signed by any NFL club.

and now we have the Franchise Liquidator

In comment 13188064 santacruzom said:

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But I honestly can't remember thinking he screwed it up. He was surrounded by seemingly half the defense, one member of which got a perfect hit on the ball. Or did I dream this?

When you fumble, you screw up..put two hands on the ball and protect it..

So cut him?

In comment 13188205 KWALL2 said:

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So cut him?

so you think he was playing well up until that?

As is Wade but I couldn't fit him in the above topic line.

The sooner both no longer wear the Blue jersey the better.

Donnell can't block, drops the ball far too frequently, runs the wrong routes regularly and is awful at ball security.

to the #3 (not #2) TE.

looks like the best TE on the roster physically. He looks the part, I guess he is just way too raw right now? I Just hope he can come along and play a bigger role in the 2nd half of the season because Donnell is horrible. I still wish there was a way we could have locked Bennett up when we had him although I know that's ancient history at this point

Anyone been watching him this year?
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He's an average player who doesn't make much with some + and - to his game.

I wouldn't point to this guy as the problem on the offense. And cutting him doesn't help anything.

Donnell is not an average player. The only thing he does average is catch the ball and saying he's average at that is generous. He is awful at every other facet of the game. He is not an NFL caliber football player.

On that play. It's as if the coaches lit into him last week for not running over a smaller defensive player to get the first down.

This week he tries to run over 2 of them.

He's basically the Ian Allen of tight ends

I think it's fair to say he's athletic, but at the same time clumsy and slow. Those things should seem to be at odds with eachother, but he somehow pulls off the combination. He can't block and it kills the running game. He is a fumble machine. Yes, yesterday's fumble was his first this season but he makes you hold your breath constantly with his history and just last week had a scare vs Baltimore where the ball was in danger.

Its the MISTAKES.

He is the same type of player as Reuben Randle.

Two big mistakes last week in running out of bounds and trying to leap over defenders with the ball in the air.

And then the fumble yesterday.

These are not "one time" issues either. They have plagued him his entire career here. At this point, he is not going to out grow them. He has had plenty of time. He is who he is. He epitomizes the mistake-prone nature of this team.

Sorry but this is not a player you want on the field.