But sometimes you just have to let go of that crap. This was a fantastic episode. First time in God knows how long an episode was a jaw dropper for me, and that's the only litmus test that matters, IMO.
But sometimes you just have to let go of that crap. This was a fantastic episode. First time in God knows how long an episode was a jaw dropper for me, and that's the only litmus test that matters, IMO.
But sometimes you just have to let go of that crap. This was a fantastic episode. First time in God knows how long an episode was a jaw dropper for me, and that's the only litmus test that matters, IMO.
But sometimes you just have to let go of that crap. This was a fantastic episode. First time in God knows how long an episode was a jaw dropper for me, and that's the only litmus test that matters, IMO.
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haha okay, so be miserable then. I enjoyed it.
That's one take. I would have expected more nuance from you.
I just don't know what else could have been asked of the episode.
to watch. The helplessness of the group as they watch their loved ones' heads getting pulverized was truly intense. When Glenn got hit, my wife screamed. I don't think she's going to make it past this episode. We'll see. I'm really hoping Jesus plays a bigger role this season.
since the Morgan-centric episode, IMO. The episode was very well shot, and finally featured good writing with Negan's dialogue. I was definitely surprised since I thought it would be a letdown; it definitely wasn't.
This episode kept me watching for a bit, but the true question will be what will happen week to week since Negan's going to be around all season, and nothing will live up to this episode until his death (most likely). Hopefully they don't revert back to their typical formula, but that's a big ask.
My cousin who works for the show said they had filmed several death scenes to throw people off. But then the one they wanted to go with was planned for awhile.
the Good:
Finally Glenn is dead- I mean its about time. Its over and done with.
Negan is a psycho muthafucker. He doesnt give a shit about anything but his power and will crush you if you fuck with him.
Making Rick his bitch at the end just makes everything change which is good. The show needed this big time as it was just more of the same.
The brutality of the scene- The show wasnt fucking around and anyone here expecting a lighter death scene wasnt paying attention. He has a bat with barbed wire and he has a name for it. What did you expect? it was being promoted for awhile that this was going to be brutal.
The bad:
For fuck sake, Glenns death didnt shock me. Not one bit. It also didnt make me emotional. What only shocked me was the level of brutality shown on tv. But back to the death. They wasted this opportunity of killing another a lister. They had the moment ready to kill daryl or maggie. They didnt. Glenn died once already and took all the emotions there. last night was just meh.
The fucking commercials. For fuck sake it took forever to be done.
Abraham dying left me alittle meh.... again, If Daryl died, it would have been awesome. Would have made it in GOT area. But they are scared to do it.
what im really liking:
they have always said "things are going to change". well they did and now it gets really interesting. Im in til the end.
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Honestly, there is so much good television out there that I have fallen out of love with the Walking Dead. I usually could see past all of the criticism about the show and see it for what it was, but I think the length of time between seasons/midseasons and the plodding pace of the show just are killing it for me. That was definitely a better episode than we have seen for a while but it also didn't feel like a game changer, IMO.
What they really should have done, if this was the plan, was kill Abraham at the season finale, have everyone talking about it all offseason and then come back and off Glenn as a continuation of the episode. That would have been more appealing. But waiting however many months for this reveal just made it anticlimactic for me.
it this way, normally you get one character killed off. Here you got 2. Think about Ricks crew seeing one of theirs gone then Glenn gets it after ripped everyones heart out. It was well done.
I feel sorry for most of BBI's wife/ husbands/ friends, etc because they probably can't make you happy either.
it this way, normally you get one character killed off. Here you got 2. Think about Ricks crew seeing one of theirs gone then Glenn gets it after ripped everyones heart out. It was well done.
I feel sorry for most of BBI's wife/ husbands/ friends, etc because they probably can't make you happy either.
that was one of the more horrific death scenes i've watched which did the comic justice. Walking Dead #100 is one of very few comics i'll never forget because in that book, you really didn't see Glenn's death coming.
The 7 month delay following a rather hokey cliff-hanger took alot of the drama from the scene although they did a great job in the episode overall.
it this way, normally you get one character killed off. Here you got 2. Think about Ricks crew seeing one of theirs gone then Glenn gets it after ripped everyones heart out. It was well done.
I feel sorry for most of BBI's wife/ husbands/ friends, etc because they probably can't make you happy either.
They were essentially throw away characters though. Glenn should have died already and when the baby comes, it will fill the emotional void for Maggie. The show isn't capable of going deeper than that.
Abraham was done on the show, and so could Rosarita or Sahsa.
If they killed Daryl or Michonne, it would have been a much better choice by AMC if their goal was to take the show seriously. But they went the safe route because the bottom line is all that matters.
I was happy with the episode since we finally got a really dark, un-neutered piece of the story (the Governor was an abomination in both plot and execution), but I'm guessing we will get a lot of duds moving forward.
it this way, normally you get one character killed off. Here you got 2. Think about Ricks crew seeing one of theirs gone then Glenn gets it after ripped everyones heart out. It was well done.
I feel sorry for most of BBI's wife/ husbands/ friends, etc because they probably can't make you happy either.
I think people just want to hate the show at this point. And again, I have the same gripes everyone else has. I get that they recycle the same themes with regularity to the point where it becomes formulaic at best, boring at worst.
But again, what else did people want out of this episode? Everyone was afraid they'd "cop out" and kill (only) a B-level character, but they didn't. They probably took out the most liked character on the show. And they did it in a way where they appeased the comic nerds, but also told a different story in the process.
Some people watch this show for the sole purpose of complaining about it.
"They killed a character nobody cared about!"
"They killed one of the main characters!"
"Too soft!"
"Too brutal!"
"Why didn't they kill the pregnant one?!"
"Too boring!"
"All they do is go for shocks!"
It's ridiculous. I don't know if you people are sadists, masochists, or just hard to please, but for not liking the show so much, you've still hung on for 7 seasons.
which, IMO, is a reasonable reason to not really be that enthusiastic about this season. Why did it take 5 seasons to get back to the gritty show that we got in season 1? Is this just a 1 episode tease, or do they actually have a well written plot this season?
Most of Negan's lines were pulled directly from the comic save for profanity. So the writing didn't really improve in this episode, they just chose to finally give us something of substance as well as legitimate villain.
They have a lot of work to do to keep viewers, IMO. Season 5 was their peak at 14.4 million viewers, that dipped last season 13.15 million. I don't think there's much untapped market left so it likely only goes down from here. The question is, will they keep popular characters around to combat this? Will they improve the writing enough to get buzz going again after the premier deaths wear off?
Some people watch this show for the sole purpose of complaining about it.
"They killed a character nobody cared about!"
"They killed one of the main characters!"
"Too soft!"
"Too brutal!"
"Why didn't they kill the pregnant one?!"
"Too boring!"
"All they do is go for shocks!"
It's ridiculous. I don't know if you people are sadists, masochists, or just hard to please, but for not liking the show so much, you've still hung on for 7 seasons.
Some people watch this show for the sole purpose of complaining about it.
"They killed a character nobody cared about!"
"They killed one of the main characters!"
"Too soft!"
"Too brutal!"
"Why didn't they kill the pregnant one?!"
"Too boring!"
"All they do is go for shocks!"
It's ridiculous. I don't know if you people are sadists, masochists, or just hard to please, but for not liking the show so much, you've still hung on for 7 seasons.
There is no way AMC would allow them to kill Daryl off. They know ratings would nosedive if Norman Reedus was off the show. My wife is one of those people, and she was FREAKING OUT when Daryl punched Negan. I was the one who paused the episode, pointed out that Negan is trying to teach Rick's group, not kill them off. So Daryl wasn't going to die for attacking Negan. Someone else would die for that.
Also pointed out the framing of the shot, where Glenn was in the center of the screen. Turns out I was right.
There is no way AMC would allow them to kill Daryl off. They know ratings would nosedive if Norman Reedus was off the show. My wife is one of those people, and she was FREAKING OUT when Daryl punched Negan. I was the one who paused the episode, pointed out that Negan is trying to teach Rick's group, not kill them off. So Daryl wasn't going to die for attacking Negan. Someone else would die for that.
Also pointed out the framing of the shot, where Glenn was in the center of the screen. Turns out I was right.
According to Negan, if anyone moved his boys were to cut Carl's other eye out. Well then he got punched in the face and Carl was left alone. I wanted to see that happen, Negan lied to me.
which, IMO, is a reasonable reason to not really be that enthusiastic about this season. Why did it take 5 seasons to get back to the gritty show that we got in season 1? Is this just a 1 episode tease, or do they actually have a well written plot this season?
Most of Negan's lines were pulled directly from the comic save for profanity. So the writing didn't really improve in this episode, they just chose to finally give us something of substance as well as legitimate villain.
They have a lot of work to do to keep viewers, IMO. Season 5 was their peak at 14.4 million viewers, that dipped last season 13.15 million. I don't think there's much untapped market left so it likely only goes down from here. The question is, will they keep popular characters around to combat this? Will they improve the writing enough to get buzz going again after the premier deaths wear off?
Damn, only 13 million people? They sure do have work to do. Maybe it'll get cancelled.
Seriously though, they aren't going to make any huge changes to appease the vast minority. It's the most popular show on TV
the show has been stale because AMC cares more about ratings and the bottom line. They have a horrid track record of this, so it isn't unique to the Walking Dead.
I can deal with Daryl hanging around if he actually served a purpose on the show, but he doesn't. Literally nothing. I defended it for a while too but I can't do it anymore.
There's so much content right now and so many top notch shows out that TWD is just seems like a routine for many viewers. I don't get excited for it anymore, I find myself watching because I've come this far.
Again, they set the table for my perception of the show to change and I will give it the time to do so, but they have a ton of work to do.
to 13 million viewers. Not really a loss considering theres no way to get an exact number. How many watched it a friends or families house. Who DVR'd it? Most popular on TV. They started out this season great. Next show bound to be more boring compared to this and then all the haters will be like this show is boring. Done.
the show has been stale because AMC cares more about ratings and the bottom line. They have a horrid track record of this, so it isn't unique to the Walking Dead.
I can deal with Daryl hanging around if he actually served a purpose on the show, but he doesn't. Literally nothing. I defended it for a while too but I can't do it anymore.
There's so much content right now and so many top notch shows out that TWD is just seems like a routine for many viewers. I don't get excited for it anymore, I find myself watching because I've come this far.
Again, they set the table for my perception of the show to change and I will give it the time to do so, but they have a ton of work to do.
With all of the other quality shows out right now, I don't look for TWD to be anything other than entertainment. Last night was entertaining. I think you have a point with it being a routine though.
the show has been stale because AMC cares more about ratings and the bottom line. They have a horrid track record of this, so it isn't unique to the Walking Dead.
I can deal with Daryl hanging around if he actually served a purpose on the show, but he doesn't. Literally nothing. I defended it for a while too but I can't do it anymore.
There's so much content right now and so many top notch shows out that TWD is just seems like a routine for many viewers. I don't get excited for it anymore, I find myself watching because I've come this far.
Again, they set the table for my perception of the show to change and I will give it the time to do so, but they have a ton of work to do.
With all of the other quality shows out right now, I don't look for TWD to be anything other than entertainment. Last night was entertaining. I think you have a point with it being a routine though.
if you think 1 million+ lost viewers doesn't matter. That number is almost guaranteed to increase as well. And you aren't factoring in what the cast makes now compared to season 1, the costs to filming in new locations, and to hire/fire/rehire the writers, producers, and directors over the years as well as the overall production budgets of a CGI heavy show.
My point is that AMC likely has a number of viewership they cannot go under. This number is probably a ways away from the 13 million of season 6, but if that number is say 10 million, it can get there a lot faster than you think.
And it being the most popular show on TV doesn't really mean anything to me. I don't get anything out of its high ratings so what do I care if 14 million people watch it or 140 million?
UConn - I agree with you there. Doesn't matter to me if they have 1 Million or 100 Million viewers. I think that premiere is relatively going to be positively received though. I haven't really read reviews for it though but I can't imagine it being that negative.
I remember being upset at the farm season because of how much of a waste of time it was. Now, I honestly don't care what direction they take the show in. I'll be more upset at one sub-par episode of WestWorld than I would in one bad season of TWD.
Who would you guys say was the biggest character to get offed
But the whole thing where Negan takes Rick on a joyride ... only way I could suspend that reality was to tell myself, well, he's crazy, so ...
Twice (if I had been Rick) I'd have taken a shot at Negan. First when Rick comes back ionside the winnebago, Negan has the weapon but his back is completely turned. I'd have tried burying that shit in the back of his head/neck or even in his upper back. Second time ... fuck it that all my people would get it ... if he's telling me to cut my son's arm off? Rick had a chance to turn the ax handle and bury the blade in Negan's face before he;'d have had a chance to react, or with everyone else focused on the others, before they could have reacted.
LOL ... my daughter said "Great ... you'd be dead, we'd all be dead ..." but the way I see it, at that point, what the hell kind of way to live is that, anyway?
I liked the show ... my wife said she might vomit (yelling from the bedroom down the hall lol) ... but still, it was empotional and a strong effort.
But - and there's always one of those - really? He sees the facial expression from Rick that he needed to see? To not force him to cut his arm off? And then he just packs up and drives away?
I know they have to keep the story alive, and like others have lamented, it's about the bottom line. Still, if things were going to be changing anyhow, then last night was a great opportunity (especially after Glenn got it) to REALLY push the already swollen envelope.
Negan couldn't have killed Carl because then Rick is just a completely wounded animal with zero to lose, so nothing besides him going berserk to tgry to murder Negan right then and there would have been believable.
Michonne would have been a pretty good one to gtake out, as a strong fighter and a perceived #2 alongside Daryl. The show could have gone on without her, although a huge loss. Maggie being killed ... that would have been some seriously F'd up shit, but it also would have taken gigantic balls by the writers. Daryl can't die now ... and not JUST for the bottom line. There's simply too much "story" available by having him a captive of sorts. (And of course, the actor coming out drinking wine for the "talking dead" was hysterical).
I'll keep watching. Thought it was pretty entertaining, overall.
RE: Who would you guys say was the biggest character to get offed
Shane
The Governor
Laurie
Andrea
Dale
T-Dog
Deanna
In retrospect, Shane. And I say retrospect because he's probably the best actor on the show and they could have re-written his comic book story line and made him a regular on the show.
That's probably my biggest beef with TWD. They sometimes follow the comic book to a T (lastnight) and other times they just sloppily throw something together. I would have loved to see Shane survive longer.
you can insert any character to be a prisoner and make that storyline work, so I don't buy that as a reason for not killing him. He has history with Negan's #2, but there's no real connection other than that for it to matter in the grand scheme of things. Carl, Michonne, Glenn, etc all would have been viable options for capture.
The brutality was... brutal though... lol. My wife and older daughter were screaming and covering their eyes.
The thing I really found hilarious... they could show such brutally graphic detail in the killings... but on talking dead they muted every single curse word... LOL
Jesus's intro in the comic including handing Abraham and Michonne their butts in a matter of seconds. In the show it will probably be him and Michonne, but the show has made the other right hand men completely useless like Abraham and Tyrese so maybe it is a future character
Jesus's intro in the comic including handing Abraham and Michonne their butts in a matter of seconds. In the show it will probably be him and Michonne, but the show has made the other right hand men completely useless like Abraham and Tyrese so maybe it is a future character
Completely off topic, but why is it you can show someone's head based in on TV, but you can't have nudity of any kind?
UConn - I agree with you there. Doesn't matter to me if they have 1 Million or 100 Million viewers. I think that premiere is relatively going to be positively received though. I haven't really read reviews for it though but I can't imagine it being that negative.
I remember being upset at the farm season because of how much of a waste of time it was. Now, I honestly don't care what direction they take the show in. I'll be more upset at one sub-par episode of WestWorld than I would in one bad season of TWD.
Flounder, the reviews that I have seen are pretty negative overall.
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But sometimes you just have to let go of that crap. This was a fantastic episode. First time in God knows how long an episode was a jaw dropper for me, and that's the only litmus test that matters, IMO.
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haha okay, so be miserable then. I enjoyed it.
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But sometimes you just have to let go of that crap. This was a fantastic episode. First time in God knows how long an episode was a jaw dropper for me, and that's the only litmus test that matters, IMO.
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haha okay, so be miserable then. I enjoyed it.
That's one take. I would have expected more nuance from you.
Conversely, I doubt anyone would have expected less irony from you.
Not a reader but Morgan fits the bill...
This episode kept me watching for a bit, but the true question will be what will happen week to week since Negan's going to be around all season, and nothing will live up to this episode until his death (most likely). Hopefully they don't revert back to their typical formula, but that's a big ask.
the Good:
Finally Glenn is dead- I mean its about time. Its over and done with.
Negan is a psycho muthafucker. He doesnt give a shit about anything but his power and will crush you if you fuck with him.
Making Rick his bitch at the end just makes everything change which is good. The show needed this big time as it was just more of the same.
The brutality of the scene- The show wasnt fucking around and anyone here expecting a lighter death scene wasnt paying attention. He has a bat with barbed wire and he has a name for it. What did you expect? it was being promoted for awhile that this was going to be brutal.
The bad:
For fuck sake, Glenns death didnt shock me. Not one bit. It also didnt make me emotional. What only shocked me was the level of brutality shown on tv. But back to the death. They wasted this opportunity of killing another a lister. They had the moment ready to kill daryl or maggie. They didnt. Glenn died once already and took all the emotions there. last night was just meh.
The fucking commercials. For fuck sake it took forever to be done.
Abraham dying left me alittle meh.... again, If Daryl died, it would have been awesome. Would have made it in GOT area. But they are scared to do it.
what im really liking:
they have always said "things are going to change". well they did and now it gets really interesting. Im in til the end.
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Lol. Can't win here....
What they really should have done, if this was the plan, was kill Abraham at the season finale, have everyone talking about it all offseason and then come back and off Glenn as a continuation of the episode. That would have been more appealing. But waiting however many months for this reveal just made it anticlimactic for me.
I feel sorry for most of BBI's wife/ husbands/ friends, etc because they probably can't make you happy either.
I feel sorry for most of BBI's wife/ husbands/ friends, etc because they probably can't make you happy either.
haha
The 7 month delay following a rather hokey cliff-hanger took alot of the drama from the scene although they did a great job in the episode overall.
I feel sorry for most of BBI's wife/ husbands/ friends, etc because they probably can't make you happy either.
They were essentially throw away characters though. Glenn should have died already and when the baby comes, it will fill the emotional void for Maggie. The show isn't capable of going deeper than that.
Abraham was done on the show, and so could Rosarita or Sahsa.
If they killed Daryl or Michonne, it would have been a much better choice by AMC if their goal was to take the show seriously. But they went the safe route because the bottom line is all that matters.
I was happy with the episode since we finally got a really dark, un-neutered piece of the story (the Governor was an abomination in both plot and execution), but I'm guessing we will get a lot of duds moving forward.
I feel sorry for most of BBI's wife/ husbands/ friends, etc because they probably can't make you happy either.
I think people just want to hate the show at this point. And again, I have the same gripes everyone else has. I get that they recycle the same themes with regularity to the point where it becomes formulaic at best, boring at worst.
But again, what else did people want out of this episode? Everyone was afraid they'd "cop out" and kill (only) a B-level character, but they didn't. They probably took out the most liked character on the show. And they did it in a way where they appeased the comic nerds, but also told a different story in the process.
"They killed a character nobody cared about!"
"They killed one of the main characters!"
"Too soft!"
"Too brutal!"
"Why didn't they kill the pregnant one?!"
"Too boring!"
"All they do is go for shocks!"
It's ridiculous. I don't know if you people are sadists, masochists, or just hard to please, but for not liking the show so much, you've still hung on for 7 seasons.
Most of Negan's lines were pulled directly from the comic save for profanity. So the writing didn't really improve in this episode, they just chose to finally give us something of substance as well as legitimate villain.
They have a lot of work to do to keep viewers, IMO. Season 5 was their peak at 14.4 million viewers, that dipped last season 13.15 million. I don't think there's much untapped market left so it likely only goes down from here. The question is, will they keep popular characters around to combat this? Will they improve the writing enough to get buzz going again after the premier deaths wear off?
"They killed a character nobody cared about!"
"They killed one of the main characters!"
"Too soft!"
"Too brutal!"
"Why didn't they kill the pregnant one?!"
"Too boring!"
"All they do is go for shocks!"
It's ridiculous. I don't know if you people are sadists, masochists, or just hard to please, but for not liking the show so much, you've still hung on for 7 seasons.
This^
"They killed a character nobody cared about!"
"They killed one of the main characters!"
"Too soft!"
"Too brutal!"
"Why didn't they kill the pregnant one?!"
"Too boring!"
"All they do is go for shocks!"
It's ridiculous. I don't know if you people are sadists, masochists, or just hard to please, but for not liking the show so much, you've still hung on for 7 seasons.
truth
Also pointed out the framing of the shot, where Glenn was in the center of the screen. Turns out I was right.
Also pointed out the framing of the shot, where Glenn was in the center of the screen. Turns out I was right.
According to Negan, if anyone moved his boys were to cut Carl's other eye out. Well then he got punched in the face and Carl was left alone. I wanted to see that happen, Negan lied to me.
Most of Negan's lines were pulled directly from the comic save for profanity. So the writing didn't really improve in this episode, they just chose to finally give us something of substance as well as legitimate villain.
They have a lot of work to do to keep viewers, IMO. Season 5 was their peak at 14.4 million viewers, that dipped last season 13.15 million. I don't think there's much untapped market left so it likely only goes down from here. The question is, will they keep popular characters around to combat this? Will they improve the writing enough to get buzz going again after the premier deaths wear off?
Damn, only 13 million people? They sure do have work to do. Maybe it'll get cancelled.
Seriously though, they aren't going to make any huge changes to appease the vast minority. It's the most popular show on TV
I can deal with Daryl hanging around if he actually served a purpose on the show, but he doesn't. Literally nothing. I defended it for a while too but I can't do it anymore.
There's so much content right now and so many top notch shows out that TWD is just seems like a routine for many viewers. I don't get excited for it anymore, I find myself watching because I've come this far.
Again, they set the table for my perception of the show to change and I will give it the time to do so, but they have a ton of work to do.
I can deal with Daryl hanging around if he actually served a purpose on the show, but he doesn't. Literally nothing. I defended it for a while too but I can't do it anymore.
There's so much content right now and so many top notch shows out that TWD is just seems like a routine for many viewers. I don't get excited for it anymore, I find myself watching because I've come this far.
Again, they set the table for my perception of the show to change and I will give it the time to do so, but they have a ton of work to do.
With all of the other quality shows out right now, I don't look for TWD to be anything other than entertainment. Last night was entertaining. I think you have a point with it being a routine though.
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the show has been stale because AMC cares more about ratings and the bottom line. They have a horrid track record of this, so it isn't unique to the Walking Dead.
I can deal with Daryl hanging around if he actually served a purpose on the show, but he doesn't. Literally nothing. I defended it for a while too but I can't do it anymore.
There's so much content right now and so many top notch shows out that TWD is just seems like a routine for many viewers. I don't get excited for it anymore, I find myself watching because I've come this far.
Again, they set the table for my perception of the show to change and I will give it the time to do so, but they have a ton of work to do.
With all of the other quality shows out right now, I don't look for TWD to be anything other than entertainment. Last night was entertaining. I think you have a point with it being a routine though.
Are you Flounder?
My point is that AMC likely has a number of viewership they cannot go under. This number is probably a ways away from the 13 million of season 6, but if that number is say 10 million, it can get there a lot faster than you think.
And it being the most popular show on TV doesn't really mean anything to me. I don't get anything out of its high ratings so what do I care if 14 million people watch it or 140 million?
I remember being upset at the farm season because of how much of a waste of time it was. Now, I honestly don't care what direction they take the show in. I'll be more upset at one sub-par episode of WestWorld than I would in one bad season of TWD.
Some nominees:
Shane
The Governor
Laurie
Andrea
Dale
T-Dog
Deanna
But the whole thing where Negan takes Rick on a joyride ... only way I could suspend that reality was to tell myself, well, he's crazy, so ...
Twice (if I had been Rick) I'd have taken a shot at Negan. First when Rick comes back ionside the winnebago, Negan has the weapon but his back is completely turned. I'd have tried burying that shit in the back of his head/neck or even in his upper back. Second time ... fuck it that all my people would get it ... if he's telling me to cut my son's arm off? Rick had a chance to turn the ax handle and bury the blade in Negan's face before he;'d have had a chance to react, or with everyone else focused on the others, before they could have reacted.
LOL ... my daughter said "Great ... you'd be dead, we'd all be dead ..." but the way I see it, at that point, what the hell kind of way to live is that, anyway?
I liked the show ... my wife said she might vomit (yelling from the bedroom down the hall lol) ... but still, it was empotional and a strong effort.
But - and there's always one of those - really? He sees the facial expression from Rick that he needed to see? To not force him to cut his arm off? And then he just packs up and drives away?
I know they have to keep the story alive, and like others have lamented, it's about the bottom line. Still, if things were going to be changing anyhow, then last night was a great opportunity (especially after Glenn got it) to REALLY push the already swollen envelope.
Negan couldn't have killed Carl because then Rick is just a completely wounded animal with zero to lose, so nothing besides him going berserk to tgry to murder Negan right then and there would have been believable.
Michonne would have been a pretty good one to gtake out, as a strong fighter and a perceived #2 alongside Daryl. The show could have gone on without her, although a huge loss. Maggie being killed ... that would have been some seriously F'd up shit, but it also would have taken gigantic balls by the writers. Daryl can't die now ... and not JUST for the bottom line. There's simply too much "story" available by having him a captive of sorts. (And of course, the actor coming out drinking wine for the "talking dead" was hysterical).
I'll keep watching. Thought it was pretty entertaining, overall.
Some nominees:
Shane
The Governor
Laurie
Andrea
Dale
T-Dog
Deanna
In retrospect, Shane. And I say retrospect because he's probably the best actor on the show and they could have re-written his comic book story line and made him a regular on the show.
That's probably my biggest beef with TWD. They sometimes follow the comic book to a T (lastnight) and other times they just sloppily throw something together. I would have loved to see Shane survive longer.
The thing I really found hilarious... they could show such brutally graphic detail in the killings... but on talking dead they muted every single curse word... LOL
Jesus's intro in the comic including handing Abraham and Michonne their butts in a matter of seconds. In the show it will probably be him and Michonne, but the show has made the other right hand men completely useless like Abraham and Tyrese so maybe it is a future character
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Who is Ricky right hand man?
Jesus's intro in the comic including handing Abraham and Michonne their butts in a matter of seconds. In the show it will probably be him and Michonne, but the show has made the other right hand men completely useless like Abraham and Tyrese so maybe it is a future character
Completely off topic, but why is it you can show someone's head based in on TV, but you can't have nudity of any kind?
Agreed.....this show started to suck awhile ago...I only watch because it is still interesting and its a sunk cost.
In comment 13188293 KWhite2250 said:
governor?
I remember being upset at the farm season because of how much of a waste of time it was. Now, I honestly don't care what direction they take the show in. I'll be more upset at one sub-par episode of WestWorld than I would in one bad season of TWD.
Flounder, the reviews that I have seen are pretty negative overall.
AV Club
IGN
NY Times
Verge
Paste
I'm usually in line with people on this show but I simply liked this one.