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EJV79 : 10/23/2016 8:01 pm
if the offense doesn't get some things figured out i think we may get steamrolled by the eagles. There is not a fucking chance in hell this o-line is going to slow down the eagles D and with the inabiltiy to run the ball i could see a very skittish eli in the pocket. Damn this offense is so frustrating. The eagles have had the giants # for what seems like forever now and i can see a real shitshow playing out in 2 weeks.
Yes  
djm : 10/23/2016 8:06 pm : link
I think we should shit our pants for the next two weeks because of the big bad eagles. We have no shot at all. None. The Eagles are so good their 4-2
record is actually a lie. They are actually 6-0 with a pt differential of +1000. The Giants aren't 4-3 they are 0-7.

Back up the truck. It's over.

What are the chances this game gets moved to 4:00.  
GiantsUA : 10/23/2016 8:10 pm : link
Good?
The Eagles offense is atrocious also  
bigbb : 10/23/2016 8:12 pm : link
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Knowing a number of Philly fans personally  
The_Boss : 10/23/2016 8:13 pm : link
I can say with certainty that they are 100% expecting another sweep this season.
I don't know...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/23/2016 8:14 pm : link
I saw the Skins run for 230 against them a few weeks ago and get almost 500 yards of total offense.

3 weeks ago, Matt Stafford drove the Lions down the field on them 3 straight (long) drives to start the games, each one ending with a TD pass.

There seems to be a big gap between their home and road performances.
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Danny Kanell : 10/23/2016 8:19 pm : link
This is one of 2 or 3 games that will define the 2016 Giants. We've given ourselves an opportunity to make this game matter by winning the last 2. I just wish I had confidence in this group and coach right now to seize it.
Cue the usual back-and-forth...  
DieHard : 10/23/2016 8:20 pm : link
"The BBI pollyannas are blind to how bad this team is playing and we'll be lucky to finish with 6 wins," etc. etc. Nothing is predictable about this league. The Chargers were supposedly imploding and all of a sudden they've got two wins over the Broncos and Falcons. The Vikes looked very tough to beat and they were soundly thrashed today. By all means, anticipate the worst if it helps you sleep better at night. I prefer to save post-mortems for when there's an actual corpse.
Reid & Kelly largely owned the Giants  
Overseer : 10/23/2016 8:23 pm : link
Coughlin's record vs them was dismal, esp in big games. It was my least favorite part about him as the Giants HC.

New coaches, new QB. Time to reverse the trend. BLITZ WENTZ. Landon should be unleashed.

I'll be there and I'll be loud.
RE: Yes  
EJV79 : 10/23/2016 8:24 pm : link
In comment 13188022 djm said:
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I think we should shit our pants for the next two weeks because of the big bad eagles. We have no shot at all. None. The Eagles are so good their 4-2
record is actually a lie. They are actually 6-0 with a pt differential of +1000. The Giants aren't 4-3 they are 0-7.

Back up the truck. It's over.


Pipe down dickhead. Nobody is saying back up the truck or that we have no shot. Not sure if you've noticed but the eagles have been kicking our ass for years now. Our offensive line play has been putrid for the most part. It's a game that could get real ugly if the line can't protect eli. Is this a theory that is hard for you to understand?
dont expect..  
OBJ_AllDay : 10/23/2016 8:29 pm : link
the g men to do much offensively because they haven't this year shown the ability to score with any consistency. But i do think our secondary can pose some problems for their young qb.
TWO WEEKS  
Simms : 10/23/2016 8:31 pm : link
If we cannot plan and be ready to compete against the Eagles with two full weeks to get healthy and be ready .....
RE: What are the chances this game gets moved to 4:00.  
Simms11 : 10/23/2016 8:35 pm : link
In comment 13188028 GiantsUA said:
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Good?


Why, it's an East Coast market? Both teams are not going to have any interest from the West Coast with a 4:00 game.
RE: The Eagles offense is atrocious also  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/23/2016 8:37 pm : link
In comment 13188033 bigbb said:
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They're +68 in point differential. Their offense doesn't need to be great when they've allowed 88 points all season long.

We can't win  
bluesince56 : 10/23/2016 8:38 pm : link
I think we should just forfeit the so no one gets hurt
The shegals will win the game in two weeks. The Giants are not  
GeorgeFox : 10/23/2016 8:41 pm : link
a scoring machine and to the fact their defense is shaky. The shegal shit factor has bedeviled the Giants for years, look for more of the same next week.
People freaking out two weeks before the game...  
okiegiant : 10/23/2016 8:42 pm : link
glad some of you folks weren't in charge after Pearl Harbor...we'd all be speaking Japanese.

We got two weeks....  
Doomster : 10/23/2016 8:43 pm : link
DRC and Apple should be back to almost 100%....

Can't count on Berhe....he is one tackle away from being gone...

Thompson is the guy I want to see back...not only back, but able to stay on the field....

How freakin' long is Newhouse going to be out? How long is it taking Beatty to get in shape?

Need Jennings at full strength....

As for Eli, he is just missing too many throws this season....and he becomes very ordinary in the face of a good pass rush....if this OL can't protect him against the Eagles, if you thought this offense was bad, you ain't seen nuthin' yet....

9 weeks into the season and BOTH lines are playing bad........I thought this OL would be better, because they have played longer as a unit, and stopped the merry-go-round of players....it hasn't happened....the DL is just underwhelming thus far....

We have to avoid any more injuries, to have a chance...

Only saving grace is, the rest of the NFC is playing badly, too, giving us a shot at the wild card....but this team still has not shown that it can play with the big boys, yet...
I expect the game to play out the way all of our games have  
Giantology : 10/23/2016 8:43 pm : link
Early miscues force our defense to give up points, but they hang tough enough for our offense to have repeated opportunities to score.

Comes down to if our offense execute well enough to get the W.
Nobody's freaking out  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/23/2016 8:44 pm : link
The Giants have looked like a garbage plate for 6 1/2 weeks. It is what it is.

At some point you get tired of expecting different results when it comes to the Eagles and always getting the same thing every time.
RE: RE: The Eagles offense is atrocious also  
The_Boss : 10/23/2016 8:45 pm : link
In comment 13188088 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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They're +68 in point differential. Their offense doesn't need to be great when they've allowed 88 points all season long.


Bingo. Bye or not, until this OL shows it can block Graham, Cox, Darwin, Logan, etc, I see another offensive struggle. And, when was the last time our D dictated the play vs the Eagles? Until I see it to believe it, my expectations for the NYG vs the Eagles will always be pessimistic.
RE: I expect the game to play out the way all of our games have  
okiegiant : 10/23/2016 8:47 pm : link
In comment 13188100 Giantology said:
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Early miscues force our defense to give up points, but they hang tough enough for our offense to have repeated opportunities to score.

Comes down to if our offense execute well enough to get the W.


Yip, this team isn't good enough(yet)to go out and whip people. I also think our new coach is still learning how to manage the game and call plays at the same time.

The Giants are getting healthy on defense and can still make big plays on offense. It really is a matter of the offense getting some form of consistency. Lets see how things play out over the next month or so.
We  
AcidTest : 10/23/2016 8:56 pm : link
have to find a running game. I'd go with Perkins and Rainey. They have some shiftiness. And try some runs to the outside instead of straight up the middle.
RE: We got two weeks....  
BillT : 10/23/2016 9:02 pm : link
In comment 13188099 Doomster said:
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How long is it taking Beatty to get in shape?


He's ready according to the McAdoo and has been for a while. I think he's a backup and it's going to stay that way.
Based on what we've seen from McAdoo thus far  
The_Boss : 10/23/2016 9:02 pm : link
What's the confidence level in him and the staff, on offense in particular, to make the proper adjustments/corrections during this bye week when you consider how the team continually is guilty of the same sins each week this season?
Going  
rocco8112 : 10/23/2016 9:24 pm : link
to learn a lot about this group after the bye. I so think the D can heal up and cause the Eagles some real problems.



I too expect the Eagle DL to dominate our OL.  
yatqb : 10/23/2016 10:09 pm : link
But we've faced that almost every week. But here we are, at 4-3. Comes down to Eli and our WRs, and whether our defense can be a force. So I'm hoping for the best, expecting the worst.
Mac won't  
eliapple : 10/23/2016 10:17 pm : link
Change. After bye and sluggish play we get blown out.
D id playin good. This offense needs better play
Calling and king and lewis 8n mix.
Eagles  
JohnVB : 10/23/2016 10:33 pm : link
The Giants get the eagles at home after a bye after the eagles just faced the cowboys. The Giants should be in a good spot from a health perspective. If Thompson is back, I really like our defense vs their offense. Even though the offense is shitty, we should win if the Giants play a clean game.

People are always complaining about facing an opponent on a short week, or after a bye, on the road, etc. The Giants are on the good side of it this time, so why can't they capitalize?
I haven't been a fan of Ben/Eli play-calling, but  
CT Charlie : 10/23/2016 11:47 pm : link
I think we'll put in some new plays that will be effective, especially after watching the Cowboys/Eagles game. Execution will be key.

If it weren't the Eagles, I'm guessing McAdoo would consider letting Sullivan call the game.
Until proven otherwise, eagles own the giants  
micky : 10/24/2016 6:17 am : link
Recent history
This will be the same as always.  
St. Jimmy : 10/24/2016 6:46 am : link
Don't turn the ball over and the Giants have a good shot. That is easier said than done this year though. Not to mention the Giants always come up with amazing ways to turn the ball over when they play the Eagles. No I fumbled because I tripped over my feet or I decided to stop my route before the ball is thrown and the Giants will have a shot. Not that stopping your route for an interception is something out of the ordinary for the Giants.

Not giving up a special teams and defensive touchdown against the Eagles would be a really good start. They have scored 6 and 13 points on offense the last two games. The Redskins game was vintage Eagles. Get your butt kicked for most of the game yet manage to get a defensive and special teams score to stay in the game.
RE: We can't win  
Jimmy Googs : 10/24/2016 7:29 am : link
In comment 13188089 bluesince56 said:
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I think we should just forfeit the so no one gets hurt


I thought this was kind of funny
The only thing that comes to mind for an Eagie game  
Jimmy Googs : 10/24/2016 7:31 am : link
is when does Eli throw the pick 6?
RE: Yes  
Mike Graves : 10/24/2016 7:37 am : link
In comment 13188022 djm said:
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I think we should shit our pants for the next two weeks because of the big bad eagles. We have no shot at all. None. The Eagles are so good their 4-2
record is actually a lie. They are actually 6-0 with a pt differential of +1000. The Giants aren't 4-3 they are 0-7.

Back up the truck. It's over.


Yes let's not worry about a team we have not beaten since since 2013 with Matt Barkley at QB, let's not worry about how bad our offense has been this year with a very good eagle defense coming to met life in two weeks giants will be fine all they have to do is show up , it's in the bag, nobody should be concerned beds yes we are 4-3
RE: Eagles  
Mike Graves : 10/24/2016 7:44 am : link
In comment 13188304 JohnVB said:
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The Giants get the eagles at home after a bye after the eagles just faced the cowboys. The Giants should be in a good spot from a health perspective. If Thompson is back, I really like our defense vs their offense. Even though the offense is shitty, we should win if the Giants play a clean game.

People are always complaining about facing an opponent on a short week, or after a bye, on the road, etc. The Giants are on the good side of it this time, so why can't they capitalize?


The Giants are 1-5 against the Eagles at met life, the one win was week 17 back in 2012 when the Eagles came into the game with a 4-11 record, big deal they are playing Dallas next week and the giants have a bye, until the Giants play better against the Eagles I won't feel confident against them.
It would be helpful if Cowboys and Eagles  
Jimmy Googs : 10/24/2016 7:57 am : link
beat the shit out of each other next week.

Like loss of limbs-type injuries. :-)
RE: Knowing a number of Philly fans personally  
djm : 10/24/2016 10:53 am : link
In comment 13188035 The_Boss said:
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I can say with certainty that they are 100% expecting another sweep this season.


And how many eagle fans predicted an Eagles super bowl win over the past 50 seasons?
RE: RE: Yes  
djm : 10/24/2016 10:55 am : link
In comment 13188060 EJV79 said:
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In comment 13188022 djm said:


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I think we should shit our pants for the next two weeks because of the big bad eagles. We have no shot at all. None. The Eagles are so good their 4-2
record is actually a lie. They are actually 6-0 with a pt differential of +1000. The Giants aren't 4-3 they are 0-7.

Back up the truck. It's over.




Pipe down dickhead. Nobody is saying back up the truck or that we have no shot. Not sure if you've noticed but the eagles have been kicking our ass for years now. Our offensive line play has been putrid for the most part. It's a game that could get real ugly if the line can't protect eli. Is this a theory that is hard for you to understand?


No you pipe down. Yes, you're theory is hard for me to understand. Deal with it. You're predicting a shit show. I disagree.
To beat Philly...  
BillKo : 10/24/2016 2:01 pm : link
you need to control their DL which is very aggressive.

That's why WASH ran threw them. They are good, but can be undisciplined. And they thrive on teams with weak OL and QB tandems.

Not taking anything from MINN, but they have OL issues, an immobile QB, and really no down field playmakers. That's made for a 5-0 record but they were surely due to go off the tracks for a bit. And a perfect matchup for Philly yesterday, esp being on the road.

Our issue versus them is we can never block them, particularly in Philly. Being home will be an advantage.

As far as everyone predicting a loss, you never know how an NFL game is going to go. Turnovers, returns.....there are a host of factors.

I would rate the two teams about even overall.



So a tie game it is?  
NYDCBlue : 10/24/2016 2:46 pm : link
Makes sense.
JohnVB: Excellent post.  
Big Blue Blogger : 10/24/2016 3:01 pm : link
JohnVB said:
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The Giants get the eagles at home after a bye after the eagles just faced the Cowboys. The Giants should be in a good spot from a health perspective. If Thompson is back, I really like our defense vs their offense. Even though the offense is shitty, we should win if the Giants play a clean game.

People are always complaining about facing an opponent on a short week, or after a bye, on the road, etc. The Giants are on the good side of it this time, so why can't they capitalize?

I would add that the Eagles play the Cowboys in Dallas, on Sunday night. The schedule is very much in the Giants' favor.

Maybe Philly will keep rolling, but there's also a decent chance that the Viking game or Steeler game will turn out to have been their high-water mark. Their best player (Cox) is gutting it out on a bad ankle, and their rookie QB has finally started looking like a rookie QB. I dislike the matchup of our OL against their front seven as much as anyone, but let's give the retooled staff a chance to work some magic during the bye.
RE: JohnVB: Excellent post.  
JohnVB : 10/24/2016 3:50 pm : link
In comment 13189383 Big Blue Blogger said:
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JohnVB said:

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The Giants get the eagles at home after a bye after the eagles just faced the Cowboys. The Giants should be in a good spot from a health perspective. If Thompson is back, I really like our defense vs their offense. Even though the offense is shitty, we should win if the Giants play a clean game.

People are always complaining about facing an opponent on a short week, or after a bye, on the road, etc. The Giants are on the good side of it this time, so why can't they capitalize?


I would add that the Eagles play the Cowboys in Dallas, on Sunday night. The schedule is very much in the Giants' favor.

Maybe Philly will keep rolling, but there's also a decent chance that the Viking game or Steeler game will turn out to have been their high-water mark. Their best player (Cox) is gutting it out on a bad ankle, and their rookie QB has finally started looking like a rookie QB. I dislike the matchup of our OL against their front seven as much as anyone, but let's give the retooled staff a chance to work some magic during the bye.


Exactly. Yes, the offense has looked like shit. Yes, the coaching has been spotty. But we looked pretty good in Dallas opening day when we were healthy and prepared.

The Giants should be healthy and the staff has two weeks to prepare for philly. I'm sure they're aware of the magnitude of this game. If the Giants don't turn the ball over (big if so far) I like our chances at home.
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